Gould is always interesting (and sometimes fascinating) to listen to. What he intentionally ignores here is that Beethoven indicated note lengths with extreme precision; he could (and did) indicate the differences between a sustained quarter note, a slightly detached quarter note, a dotted 8th note with a 16th note rest, an 8th note with an 8th note rest, etc. Gould's intentional flouting of Beethoven's notation is perverse. Look at the score and you will see what I mean.
If you wrote a beautiful legato song and it consisted of 2 notes, and I played it in quirky shorter way and added a third note, tell me; would I be playing your piece???
Does it really matter rather it'is right or wrong..What matters really is bravura.. think a bit..Beethoven would be proud of that guy who can play his music so beautifully , a way he hasn't thought of..
Tempo matters. The Andante of this Sonata has a 2/2 measure. This marking indicates the movement should be played Alla breve. Gould's interpretation is wrong.
wow, very odd. Not terrible, but certainly unorthodox. I suppose when we want to listen to Beethoven we can turn to Schnabel, Kempff, Pollini, Brendel or Richter.
@kepler101 terribly wrong. He loved bach and studied him very much in his later years. He went to the library and learned alot from Bach. Listen to his later sonatas and you can hear the counterpoint everywhere.
Why? There are so few pianists who can understand Beethoven's humour and brilliantly convey it to the listener. OK, the old and good tradition is elsewhere, but who cares? :)
@danman745@thetunr@KV467@alexjrmarino You are all defending Gould, but you must not actually know this piece. He is rewriting Beethoven. I'm not saying it doesn't work, or it isn't artistic, but its not Beethoven and Beethoven is such a good composer you don't need to add anything eccentric to his music.
@Politikonboard What you mean is he didn't perform it like most ever have ... he is executing the music written by Beethoven and is therefore performing Beethoven.
@EMPERORMIKI If you wrote a beautiful legato song and it consisted of 2 notes, and I played it in quirky shorter way and added a third note, tell me; would I be playing your piece?
@EMPERORMIKI If you wrote a beautiful legato song and it consisted of 2 notes, and I played it in quirky shorter way and added a third note, tell me; would I be playing your piece?
@EMPERORMIKI Well thats a terrible analogy this piece consists of far more than 2 notes ... and ornamentation was acceptable at the time. Even Beethoven would have approved of that.
@Politikonboard Gould always tried to bring a fresh approach to all his performances. He said, what's the point in playing if I'm not going to innovate? Music is change. Gould was a radical. I think that Beethoven would perhaps not enjoy this performance, but he would appreciate it.
@Politikonboard With the hyperbolic austerity of the tenuto articulation, I understand why. But I think Gould, who never even attempted to conquer the Beethoven repertoire or stand as one of its canonical interpreters, is playing that rarely defiant role here not of one who renders a composer's work as the composer wished it to sound, but as a piece of his own, thereby creating a new work altogether: an anachronistic, Baroque Beethoven; an animatronic Beethoven.
@thetunr where is the other moviments?
zecalixto 4 months ago
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In the original CD.
thetunr 4 months ago
to the non-musician these pieces can be boring...Gould is not boring....wish he would sing louder tho.
MrAzdigs 10 months ago
I like Gould's recordings but with this one I've got a little "problem"... it's a sforzando at 5:04 but he's doing a diminuendo...
grThetrojan01gr 11 months ago
I must to play this sonate this yeard, Is the 4th movement on youtube played by Gould?
enriquem90 1 year ago
I'm very respectuous of Gould, but what a joke! really!!! ahahahahahah
Daphnis1402 1 year ago
I' very respectuous of Gould, but what a joke! really!!! ahahahahahah
Daphnis1402 1 year ago
what a wonderful bach!
newFranzFerencLiszt 1 year ago
@newFranzFerencLiszt I think you have got it. This seems to be the gist of Gould's indisputably intentional mis-rendering.
musicalidea 1 year ago
Gould is always interesting (and sometimes fascinating) to listen to. What he intentionally ignores here is that Beethoven indicated note lengths with extreme precision; he could (and did) indicate the differences between a sustained quarter note, a slightly detached quarter note, a dotted 8th note with a 16th note rest, an 8th note with an 8th note rest, etc. Gould's intentional flouting of Beethoven's notation is perverse. Look at the score and you will see what I mean.
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Politikonboard 1 year ago
Not Gould's best !!! Needs more Beethoven and less Gould
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Whizzer1416 1 year ago
Does it really matter rather it'is right or wrong..What matters really is bravura.. think a bit..Beethoven would be proud of that guy who can play his music so beautifully , a way he hasn't thought of..
alexjrmarino 1 year ago
Tempo matters. The Andante of this Sonata has a 2/2 measure. This marking indicates the movement should be played Alla breve. Gould's interpretation is wrong.
devitry67 1 year ago
@devitry67
gould lived in the twentieth century, lovechum, and brought lugwig with him. x
Bolinas1971 1 year ago
@devitry67 I would say Gould being wrong is better than countless other pianist being right.
iroveashe 1 year ago
Makes me laugh!
devitry67 1 year ago
Lots of people are obsessed with tempi..
thank god Gould wasn´t
quinto34 1 year ago
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contengaletras 2 years ago
wow, very odd. Not terrible, but certainly unorthodox. I suppose when we want to listen to Beethoven we can turn to Schnabel, Kempff, Pollini, Brendel or Richter.
MrNobleSavagery 2 years ago
@MrNobleSavagery eat more something or rather your brain WILL cauliflower. x
Bolinas1971 1 year ago
@MrNobleSavagery haha indeed :)
hermanshermits124124 1 year ago
Good music and performance to begin a day with
alvasch 2 years ago
That's Glenn for ya. Jazz it up a little. Very cool.
At least it's at the tempo that I used to play it too. lol
TheLovelyPiano 2 years ago 4
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Ahrg!!!! It's shit!!
Brendel I love you...
lyralary 2 years ago
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This is BEETHOVEN!! Not bach Glenn Gould u.u
IanPianist2 2 years ago
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Well said!
Is he practicing Czerny etudes or what?
Brendel and Barenboim are references!!
superbemaison 2 years ago
its kinda difficult to find this entire piece online. anyway i did this for my ATCL just last dec! haha
dtarni 2 years ago
Argh!
piazzonga 2 years ago 2
GENIUS!!!!!!!!!!
gwozdezzz 2 years ago
I think Gould should take his counterpoint elsewhere... it's horrendous... Ludwig would be rolling his grave.
thecritiquevirtuoso 2 years ago
yeah ludwig did hate counterpoint that why he learned the entire well tempered clavier when he was kid.
kepler101 2 years ago 14
and I see that you are very well acquainted with sarcasm... well done!
thecritiquevirtuoso 2 years ago
@kepler101 terribly wrong. He loved bach and studied him very much in his later years. He went to the library and learned alot from Bach. Listen to his later sonatas and you can hear the counterpoint everywhere.
hermanshermits124124 1 year ago
@kepler101 Beethoven hate counterpoint w w w what? hammerklavier? grosse fugue?
enriquem90 1 year ago
okaaay...my teacher taught me to play like, 2 times faster than this...
ljy559 3 years ago 2
@ljy559
That's OK. Lots of teachers are idiots...
77orchidjim 5 months ago
@ljy559
That's OK. Lots of teachers are idiots...
When you're as good as Gould, you can play like this!
77orchidjim 5 months ago
you have to listen to this piece at least 3 times to understand its beauty. Strange but awsome.
ferduccio 3 years ago 8
Yes; The first time i heard his appassionata 1, i said " but, that's really awful ! " And now i find it tells another story .
tchebinai71 2 years ago 4
I wonder if beethoven would have fainted at hearing this or liked it.
prismsmiles 3 years ago 3
hes singing in the background lol
dorianmarkovac 3 years ago
omg i stopped listening after the first few bars lol
Politikonboard 3 years ago
Why? There are so few pianists who can understand Beethoven's humour and brilliantly convey it to the listener. OK, the old and good tradition is elsewhere, but who cares? :)
thetunr 3 years ago 2
hell YES!!!
gwozdezzz 2 years ago
I think his slow parts are to slow and the fast are just fine raves.
MaBu888 2 years ago
@Politikonboard simple does not = simplistic. You also have to understand what Beethoven is trying to do
danman745 1 year ago
@danman745 @thetunr @KV467 @alexjrmarino You are all defending Gould, but you must not actually know this piece. He is rewriting Beethoven. I'm not saying it doesn't work, or it isn't artistic, but its not Beethoven and Beethoven is such a good composer you don't need to add anything eccentric to his music.
Politikonboard 1 year ago
@Politikonboard What you mean is he didn't perform it like most ever have ... he is executing the music written by Beethoven and is therefore performing Beethoven.
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Politikonboard 1 year ago
@EMPERORMIKI Well thats a terrible analogy this piece consists of far more than 2 notes ... and ornamentation was acceptable at the time. Even Beethoven would have approved of that.
EMPERORMIKI 1 year ago
@Politikonboard Gould always tried to bring a fresh approach to all his performances. He said, what's the point in playing if I'm not going to innovate? Music is change. Gould was a radical. I think that Beethoven would perhaps not enjoy this performance, but he would appreciate it.
aubreyprosper1994 1 year ago
@Politikonboard With the hyperbolic austerity of the tenuto articulation, I understand why. But I think Gould, who never even attempted to conquer the Beethoven repertoire or stand as one of its canonical interpreters, is playing that rarely defiant role here not of one who renders a composer's work as the composer wished it to sound, but as a piece of his own, thereby creating a new work altogether: an anachronistic, Baroque Beethoven; an animatronic Beethoven.
musicalidea 1 year ago