Midi Bass

[jcbass]

nice bass :)



[jmorrell22]

Hi Peter, it's amazing that you've gone to great lengths to create these informative videos, and half the time all you get it slagged off by a bunch of deluded, unthinking, non musicians. Sometimes you just can't win. btw. I loved you CF gig in Botswana. Must have been great fun.

[hmg454]

I play guitar and I will openly say I have made some kick ass riffs using the sounds of a bass, playing single notes and chords.

These riffs were then transferred to guitar.

If I didn't also play bass I'd never have those guitar riffs, so both kick ass, basses and guitars.

Only thing I like the sound of better than a bass is a double bass!

[FilthyKingsRock]

Nice stuff man!

[wahoo82]

very nice playing!! ps what is the midi pickup you used for the six string? I would like to install one on my fretless six!

[KeithMidiBass]

Check out Keith Holden composer demonstarion on KeithMidiBass channel

[Cagliari1234]

80's sitcom intro much? hahaha

awesome though!!

[argentipos]

hello man, have you noticed any kind of latency on the lower zone of your bass? thanks

[herrpetermann]

Yes. Thats why I´ve used Midi only for a few months.

I don´t miss it. (but still like the piece I´ve played here)

by the way:

That´s something interresting about youtube,

I made up the song that day. Most of it is improvised anyway. Never played it again. It would be forgotten a long time ago but people are still having strange discussions about it.

Peter

[starstreem34]

Gary extended bass range is not guitar lol but not going to waste my time on linear thinking ;)

[nollitt]

bass

[Chapter93]

Honestly didn't really hear much difference in the tone. Anyway, to the folks below:

I bought my six string bass because I wanted a five string and the six was too cheap to pass up. I only use the sixth string in one song, and if I wanted, I could just play it on a regular five, but it's easier. Other than that, the extra strings make walking much easier for me.

[ReaktorFreak]

How's the latency (always the same question to every pitch to MIDI device, sorry for being monotone :)) ?

[pinosantoniccolo]

Good

[mryellow123]

Wow you anti-bass fucktards are amazing. It's an instrument. It makes sound.

Who fuck are any of you to tell ppl what they should and shouldn't play on their instruments.

You can be assured that anyone saying solos only belong on piano or guitar is a fuckin loser with no idea about music at all.

[10fingersofdeath]

ooooo!!

[kaiylahani]

Yes! most 5 and 6 string players dont even know their bass(ic) 4 on the floor, but everybody is free to make the music they like to hear. Thats what makes it sooo beautiful. Alas..I guess gary wont be buyin my cd..sigh...

[kaiylahani]

Gary you truly suck. i picked up the bass with no desire to be a supporting actor. Its not ego. its choice. and my voice. I shouldnt have to change to a violin sax or play soft or in the background because YOU are threatened. THATS real

[kaiylahani]

Who said anything about work? When I work I stay in the pocket because Im being paid to. And when I want to shred I go looking for hot rods like myself. So far Im not lonely...

[TormaBlend]

Wow. If this guy were playing like this with his band, then I'd understand while everyone is getting so worked up. ...But he's playing a solo.

And as for GaryNull who said "nobody picks up the bass for the sound." Well...hahaha... I'll just let you think that, Gary, and we'll see where it gets you - it speaks volumes about your character.

[ctbassman60]

And who are you to say how the bass should be used?

[liamcapleton]

But why does it matter? I agree I'm not a fan of all this tapping and shredding nonsense but I'm not going to complain if someone does it, because that's their prerogative. Just not mine.

[AndrewRodden]

Not going to lie, but you're retarded, end of discussion.

Any thread of bassist that may have existed in you, has now been demoted to a large thread of "retardist"

[GaryNull]

I didn't know I wasn't allowed to give my opinion, fucktard.

[mjdr21]

having five or six strings is almost never about the note selection. its about the positions.

[GaryNull]

having five or six strings is almost always about bass players who don't want to play bass and really want to play guitar.

Do you ever see a guitar trying to sound like a bass? NO

We have enough crappy guitar players and don't need bass players trying to play it like a guitar.

[mjdr21]

lol ok

[liamcapleton]

If you'd like to divert your attention to most session bassists like Nathan East, Anthony Jackson, Bakithi Kumalo, Chuck Rainey, or countless others who have a shed load more experience than you and 1000's of records under their belt, you'll find that a.) not only are you completely wrong, but b.) 5 and 6 string basses are favored by many bassists and engineers around the world that don't share your misinformed and naive view.

No offense of course.

[GaryNull]

You didn't understand what I said.

I was making the point about how "bass players" are using 5 and 6 string basses like a guitars instead of playing bass.

I don't have a problem with 5 and 6 strings used to play bass, as it should be played, . . in the background.

The sign of a great player is that they shine in the background, . . unless you're Jeff Berlin, . . . but not many (if any) can come close to his abilities.

[ctbassman60]

Thou shall stay in the back. Thou shall not play with a pick. Thou shall not slap the bass. Thou shall not tap the bass. Thou must play as I tell you to play. I am the decider of all things appropriate to your music. Thou shall be as limited a player as I am. I hath spoken!!!

[GaryNull]

I never said anything about the rights of people to play their instrument anyway they want.

Was just making a point of how these 5 and 6 string players tend to forget about how the bass should really be used.

I'm not a fan of this basically because it sound too muddy most of the time.

[grafpablo]

bass for groove, drums for rythm, guitar for solos, and then Atreyu fighting with "the nothing" and the music losing creativity...

Bass, guitars, keyboards are instrument for make music, you know?

[polishpirate123]

Gary wtf are you talking about

who are these 5 and 6 string bass players you are talking about?

[polishpirate123]

I mean like name the bassists

give an example

[bassguitarkeybordwiz]

Why is he the only one. What is wrong with showing off. By the way, who gives a damn about what instrument is being used. The point of music is to make music. I don't see anything wrong with playing chords and solos on bass or guitar if the outcome is what I am looking for.

[bassguitarkeybordwiz]

I could name the notes in a c7+ chord, that is beside the point. Why is it that a bass is not a solo instrument? I play solo bass all the time.

[DivineWindOfTheSnow]

@Csabika30NY

There is no limits in music. Music is a very abstract study. There is no right and wrong answer.

[Csabika30NY]

GaryNull: no wonder we agree, we are both from New York:)))

[kaiylahani]

you must truly suck to want to discourage a musician to find his peak abilities. i am a bassist because of its gorgeous tonal range. And im too fucking good to back up lames.

[GaryNull]

Fuck you .. get real man .. .

Man has ego, . . which equals playing

lead guitar or singer.

Noboby picks up the bass for the sound.

You know as well as I, most people dont' even know the difference between bass and guitar.

Get back to me when you get real.

[grafpablo]

Dialogue at Music Store:

- Hi, I have a Big Ego...which instrument do you recommend?

-Saxophone.

-It is bigger than lead guitar or a singer?

-Yes!

-I buy it!..

Fuck off with the bullshit of egos and instruments. Music is music, and nothing more.

[polishpirate123]

Dude gary i picked up bass for the sound

and i love it

[renaudbassplayer]

@GaryNull nobody pick up a bass for the sound ? AHAHAAHH you're just to funny man =) oooh by the way, I began playing bass because i thought it was a kick ass instrument, with a great sound, yeah, no joke man ! you should listen carefully I think !

[GaryNull]

@renaudbassplayer - yes some people do pick up the bass because they love it, and that is great. But the majoriity of bass players in rock bands play bass because they can't play guitar well enough or sing good.

[renaudbassplayer]

@GaryNull probably, too bad they cant even love their instrument

[WolfsGimpyWrath]

@GaryNull Fucking retard scince when was this ?

[DivineWindOfTheSnow]

@GaryNull

Huh? I play the bass myself. And I know DAMN well the difference. You need to get real. You obviously are no musician. Every instrument has sound. I like the bass because of its sound.

[TormaBlend]

..."in the background" is about as unspecific as you can get.

When a bass player is playing a bass function, but is playing aggressively and in doing so calling attention to themselves, are they in error? ...Was Willie Weeks f'in' up on Little Ghetto Boy? Was Jaco playing too much on Havona? Was Jamerson high as f' on What's Happenin' Brother? ...Well, probably. :)

I shouldn't let this get me so worked up... Sorry.

[GreenbergBass]

OK, I'm tired of you pretending that your opinion is fact. You don't like basses to do anything other than be in the background. Thats fine. But don't act like any playing that isn't that, is not real bass playing.

Besides, the original function of electric bass was to identify what chord the song was on at any given time.

Chord identification, walking, grooving, chord voicing, soloing, slapping, tapping, using harmonics...these are all functions of a bass player.

[GaryNull]

>> You don't like basses to do anything other than be in the background.

Even though I implied that, I meant this:

It has to "sound good".

These 6 string just don't.

Then again, most people don't know shit about music (especially today) so most people will like this or any other thing that makes sound.

But I'm 100% right when I say that 6 string players play them because they really want to play guitar, hahaha.

[Csabika30NY]

I don't even see my comment anymore. So much about freedom of speach. Just like in real life, you say something that the majority don't want to hear, next thing you know you are silenced.

[GreenbergBass]

Again. Stop presenting opinions as fact.

-You don't like how 6 string sound, fine. I like them. Ever hear of Adam Nitti?

-100% right. Haha. No. I play a 6 string bass because it lets me do more with my bass. You do realize there is a low B added to a 6 string too, right?

[Yetuset]

Uh. I'm pretty sure that if someone plays a 6-String Bass then they want to play a 6-String Bass. How can you possibly say a Six-String doesn't sound good? Do they play a magical 13th note that doesn't sound good? Do they play the notes differently then other stringed instruments? How can it sound bad? You talk shit about people not knowing anything about music, but you're just as close-minded and ignorant. I hope you can understand someday that it's music. The means of playing it matter little.

[fingerboy18]

Narrow minded.

[bassguitarkeybordwiz]

That is not true at all, I own both, and I can say that I play a 6 string bass to play a 6 string bass. Same with guitar, if I want to shred, I can.

[WolfsGimpyWrath]

@GaryNull Really????????? well im a bassist and I picked up bass cause i liked how they sound and plus Dream Theatre's bassist is fucking silly :P, I picked up a 5 string to eliminate the need to use drop tunings when im playing for multiple bands or songs with different tunings as it adds a low B, I've been recently looking at getting a 6-string so that I have an extended range and cover 2 and a half octaves with one hand position, as it adds a high C.

[WolfsGimpyWrath]

@WolfsGimpyWrath As far as I'm aware that sounds nothing like wanting to be a guitarist. I don't see how the addition of extra strings makes you want to be anything else, considering the addition of an extra string doesn't change the tonal qualities. You just sound like an ignorant dick who knows nothing about music apart from stereotypes.

[Forbelicious]

@GaryNull No... That's all I have to say.

[GaryNull]

@Forbelicious This guy is an excellent player and I wasn't commenting on his playing. He has skill and a good ear. I was just giving my (unpopular) opinion. Is there any truth to way I say? I don't know.

It all boils down to this : If you like something, that's all that matters and what anyone else thinks should matter much or at all.

[grafpablo]

I have a 12 string bass. May be I wanna play piano...

Fuck off!

[dinoantimental]

GREAT MEN!

[barryslanders]

How do I get in contact with Magnus? I need a Midi-Pickup installed on my Fender American Jazz. Thanks, Adam

[toddf321]

It's good to see it tracking from finger-picking. I picked one up a few weeks ago, but have the pickup back-ordered. I've been working on my flat-picking so the Axon can use the pick transient, but prefer to finger-pick. Did you modify your right-hand technique at all to mimic the pick transient? Like use fingernails instead of finger meat?

[herrpetermann]

Hi,

no I wouldn´t change my playing for that. I´ve only had the Axon for a few hours, when I took the Video. I also sold it 2 month later. I spent too much time turning knobs instead of practicing.

The Axon allows you to switch it´s sensitivity between fingering and picking.

[toddf321]

I've had the Axon for a few months now. I like the speed of the pick transient, so I don't use the "finger" setting. I also spent a lot of time pushing buttons and working on my flat-pick skills. I thought I'd shock people when I play live, but people generally just see a band and hear music, so it only seems odd to other musicians. I found it's just another way to get the music inside my head to come out. It's all about music.

[Basso9x13]

Really Cool! Nice playing & great sounds. I'm a keyboardist 1st & bassist 2nd. I use a Line6 processor which has some bass/synth presets, but haven't played w/ MIDI on bass, yet.

*****

~R

[onehairlessape]

Nice! Good choice of sounds to put the mood to your playing playing.Keep it up!

[ju12ver]

nice

[Gurudragon]

Nice piece my man! What kind of bass are you using and do you find much latency issues with the axon? Plus did drill holes in your bass to hold in the pickup and the unit?

[herrpetermann]

Hello and thanks,

the Bass is built by german Luthier Magnus Krempel. He also builds Instruments for Hot Wire, Kristall, and for others. There is latency on the lower Strings if you play fast. Magnus will instal a piezzo Midi Pickup into the Bass. That one has a better tracking an you won´t see it on the face of the Bass. All the electronics are inside.

greez Peter

[Gurudragon]

Thanks man!!! Have you tried using any VSTI's yet? I am using an old peavey midi bass and cyber bass.

[AndreDonawa]

Nice sound.

Enjoyed it.