more money you will mkae with out as much variance. for instance bodog was the best fish pond i ever played at. makeing 4-7 buy ins a day 4 tabling than you go to full tilt and make 1-4 buy ins a day playing 6 tables and you have much more losing sessions.
you guys are idiots i play poker professionally and we play weaker players because you wont make any money if you play with guys better than you. Since there is money involved we wanna play the weakest player for the most amounts of money possible. So hhmmmmm geez it seems the weaker the player the more margin for error the more margin for error the
Great video! I had never heard of the importance of all these necessary, external qualities, which make up a complete, successful poker player. Great stuff!
The comments here need to be addressed, and i will make another very long professional poker video. @Tuxster. Being able to identify and spot weak players is a skill in itself. If you can't spot weaker players then you are probably the weaker player. I agree that playing with terrible players wont make you better, but it will make you money, and when you operate from a professional perspective. Thats what its about. btw. a grandmaster would play an amateur.. If it was for money, not rank.
@SchoolofCards Yes, I agree that when it comes to making MONEY - and that's the SOLE goal - well, of course, you want to play the fish. I already understand this. And, yes, I've heard your comment before about spotting the weaker player - i.e., if you can't spot the fish at the table, you probably ARE the fish. I agree with this. Again, however, putting money aside - why would a top ten ranked tennis player want to play against me - I'm terrible. Why play me?
Everyone and their dog is a "professional" poker player. Saying you're a poker pro, doesn't make it so - else I'm a chicken wing. Like in chess, why would a chess Grandmaster want to play again a rank amateur chess player? A chess Grandmaster wants to play against ANOTHER Grandmaster.
@ThisisBSist Again, this is what gives poker a bad name. We talk about all the skill involved in playing the game, yet we only want to play the WEAKEST players. Yes, I know it's about making money, but so is professional golf and tennis. Why not just take what you're saying to its logical conclusion: why not just CHEAT - and then you would make a LOT of money, beating fish and non-fish alike. However, you'd probably lose your life too, the way cheaters used to be dealt with.
@Tuxster3 learned capacity to carry out pre-determined results often with the minimum outlay of time. You make money off those who are not as skilled.The skills are in areas of bankroll management,reading the board, knowing hand range percentages,pricing out draws,value betting,c betting,big lay downs, table image etc. The goal in poker is to pick the best game you can beat exploiting those with inferior ability. Not unethtical in fact when the get railed from better players they learn
@foolioperez Yes, I agree with much of what you've said. However, money aside, I understand why a poker "pro" would want to play an "amateur" -- knowing all along that he can beat such a play, before even sitting down at the table. Sure, not even luck can a save a pro on an all-in, but it can possibly help the amateur. Why would a tennis pro want to play me - knowing he's a thousand times better than me - if we wanted to decide who's the better player. Obviously, he is better.
@Tuxster3 You're talking apples and oranges here. You can't just play other poker pros unless it's a heads up tourny or Poker After Dark. You're equating pro poker players to pros in other sports. In boxing, you fight the best fighter because it brings in the most money and you HAVE TO if you want the belt. In poker you can't really tell who's good or not outside of bracelets and word of mouth. The idea is simply to consistently make profit over an extended period of time.
I had a friend of a friend whose friend had a friend that her boyfriend...WTF is this tool babbling about!? If this guy is as good as he thinks he is, he sould be at CIrcus Circus beating the tourists at the 3/6 games and not on Youtube making a fool out of himself.
Dude then stick to playmoney. You got a fair point about that fact that good players do a lot of bumhunting to make money but you'll have to play better players to move up in the stakes. You don't get better grinding 100NL with a bunch of fish
Yea i understand your point, i need to make a video about this though. I will answer you in a long video cause this comment shit is driving me crazy cause it only allows a certain amount of characters.
@Foreverguga1 - you are right, but it's also dependent on why you are playing professionally... are you shooting to be the best of the best, or do you have bills to pay and need to grind it out making money on the game when and how you can.
The concept "professional poker player" will never be clear to me. A friend of mine 12 tables NL50 and makes over $3000 per month with a big rakebackdeal. Others are more skilled and beat NL200 but only play occasionally and have jobs to pay for bills. I guess my friend is a professional bumhunter but he does pay all the bills with it. At the end of january I am moving abroad and I will try the same strategy for a few months. I still have a good degree in case it won't work out
@Foreverguga1: As I see it, the term "professional" indicates that the individual is playing poker (being a photographer etc) for a living, as opposed to a nights & weekend player (photographer etc) who has fun, makes some money but has a regular day job that pays the bills etc.
@KC0TLV Finally one man that can see the truth!!! i used to get so angry when i heard the word "pro" especialy, which comes from proffesional and proffesional is what you said! But now i am forced to say what others say :( that's the way people go from bad to worse.
@rikimaroo Once you find a soft table you can just talk to management and ask them to put you on that table as soon as a seat opens up. You can also sit down at a 1/2 table waiting for a spot at a 2/5 table to open up and then just switch that table
more money you will mkae with out as much variance. for instance bodog was the best fish pond i ever played at. makeing 4-7 buy ins a day 4 tabling than you go to full tilt and make 1-4 buy ins a day playing 6 tables and you have much more losing sessions.
murkywaters101 4 days ago
you guys are idiots i play poker professionally and we play weaker players because you wont make any money if you play with guys better than you. Since there is money involved we wanna play the weakest player for the most amounts of money possible. So hhmmmmm geez it seems the weaker the player the more margin for error the more margin for error the
murkywaters101 4 days ago
Wtf is up with all of the Phils in poker. Phil Ivey, Phil Hellmuth, Phil Lack, Phil Galfond.
scoobyj2002 1 week ago
Great video! I had never heard of the importance of all these necessary, external qualities, which make up a complete, successful poker player. Great stuff!
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The comments here need to be addressed, and i will make another very long professional poker video. @Tuxster. Being able to identify and spot weak players is a skill in itself. If you can't spot weaker players then you are probably the weaker player. I agree that playing with terrible players wont make you better, but it will make you money, and when you operate from a professional perspective. Thats what its about. btw. a grandmaster would play an amateur.. If it was for money, not rank.
SchoolofCards 3 weeks ago
@SchoolofCards Yes, I agree that when it comes to making MONEY - and that's the SOLE goal - well, of course, you want to play the fish. I already understand this. And, yes, I've heard your comment before about spotting the weaker player - i.e., if you can't spot the fish at the table, you probably ARE the fish. I agree with this. Again, however, putting money aside - why would a top ten ranked tennis player want to play against me - I'm terrible. Why play me?
Tuxster3 3 weeks ago
Everyone and their dog is a "professional" poker player. Saying you're a poker pro, doesn't make it so - else I'm a chicken wing. Like in chess, why would a chess Grandmaster want to play again a rank amateur chess player? A chess Grandmaster wants to play against ANOTHER Grandmaster.
Tuxster3 1 month ago
@Tuxster3 You, sir, are full of the smelly stuff. Most of the time, most pros want to play rich retarded fish. Gawd you're sooooo off.
ThisisBSist 3 weeks ago
@ThisisBSist Again, this is what gives poker a bad name. We talk about all the skill involved in playing the game, yet we only want to play the WEAKEST players. Yes, I know it's about making money, but so is professional golf and tennis. Why not just take what you're saying to its logical conclusion: why not just CHEAT - and then you would make a LOT of money, beating fish and non-fish alike. However, you'd probably lose your life too, the way cheaters used to be dealt with.
Tuxster3 3 weeks ago
@Tuxster3 learned capacity to carry out pre-determined results often with the minimum outlay of time. You make money off those who are not as skilled.The skills are in areas of bankroll management,reading the board, knowing hand range percentages,pricing out draws,value betting,c betting,big lay downs, table image etc. The goal in poker is to pick the best game you can beat exploiting those with inferior ability. Not unethtical in fact when the get railed from better players they learn
foolioperez 3 weeks ago 3
@foolioperez Yes, I agree with much of what you've said. However, money aside, I understand why a poker "pro" would want to play an "amateur" -- knowing all along that he can beat such a play, before even sitting down at the table. Sure, not even luck can a save a pro on an all-in, but it can possibly help the amateur. Why would a tennis pro want to play me - knowing he's a thousand times better than me - if we wanted to decide who's the better player. Obviously, he is better.
Tuxster3 3 weeks ago
@Tuxster3 You're talking apples and oranges here. You can't just play other poker pros unless it's a heads up tourny or Poker After Dark. You're equating pro poker players to pros in other sports. In boxing, you fight the best fighter because it brings in the most money and you HAVE TO if you want the belt. In poker you can't really tell who's good or not outside of bracelets and word of mouth. The idea is simply to consistently make profit over an extended period of time.
Ramel34 3 weeks ago
@DJHastenz Very Very good point.
SchoolofCards 1 month ago
Where's part 2?
Ramel34 1 month ago
i was making this mistake for months online. then i learned table selection and my profits sky rocketed
skaloon 2 months ago
being pro is overrated..but what he is saying is right..good luck finding fish in an economic depression
biglemoncoke 2 months ago
I had a friend of a friend whose friend had a friend that her boyfriend...WTF is this tool babbling about!? If this guy is as good as he thinks he is, he sould be at CIrcus Circus beating the tourists at the 3/6 games and not on Youtube making a fool out of himself.
ninefivesuited 3 months ago
NIT!!!
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Kajjeh 3 months ago
You don't want to sit down with Hellmuth?
Dude then stick to playmoney. You got a fair point about that fact that good players do a lot of bumhunting to make money but you'll have to play better players to move up in the stakes. You don't get better grinding 100NL with a bunch of fish
Foreverguga1 4 months ago
@Foreverguga1
Yea i understand your point, i need to make a video about this though. I will answer you in a long video cause this comment shit is driving me crazy cause it only allows a certain amount of characters.
SchoolofCards 4 months ago
@Foreverguga1 - you are right, but it's also dependent on why you are playing professionally... are you shooting to be the best of the best, or do you have bills to pay and need to grind it out making money on the game when and how you can.
KC0TLV 3 months ago
@KC0TLV
The concept "professional poker player" will never be clear to me. A friend of mine 12 tables NL50 and makes over $3000 per month with a big rakebackdeal. Others are more skilled and beat NL200 but only play occasionally and have jobs to pay for bills. I guess my friend is a professional bumhunter but he does pay all the bills with it. At the end of january I am moving abroad and I will try the same strategy for a few months. I still have a good degree in case it won't work out
Foreverguga1 3 months ago
@Foreverguga1: As I see it, the term "professional" indicates that the individual is playing poker (being a photographer etc) for a living, as opposed to a nights & weekend player (photographer etc) who has fun, makes some money but has a regular day job that pays the bills etc.
KC0TLV 3 months ago 4
@KC0TLV Finally one man that can see the truth!!! i used to get so angry when i heard the word "pro" especialy, which comes from proffesional and proffesional is what you said! But now i am forced to say what others say :( that's the way people go from bad to worse.
greatman63 2 months ago
@Foreverguga1 Dude even Hansen thinks Hellmuth's a donk. It's too obvious. Don't let the bracelets fool you.
wavemotionburn 3 months ago
wheres the other videos
arnaldo717 5 months ago
@arnaldo717 I need to redo this series. Ill get on it.
mrmaskie 5 months ago
great video, glad I found it
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how do you look for a table when you have to join a list at the poker room?
rikimaroo 5 months ago
how do you look for a table when you have to join a list at the poker room?
rikimaroo 5 months ago
@rikimaroo Once you find a soft table you can just talk to management and ask them to put you on that table as soon as a seat opens up. You can also sit down at a 1/2 table waiting for a spot at a 2/5 table to open up and then just switch that table
mrmaskie 5 months ago
I wont to sit down with Phil Laak ;) decent vid
MrJonnyboy36 6 months ago