The romance of socializing health care sounds great, however I'm not sure if it will work. I mean, look at how most government agencies are run. The postal service is a horribly inefficient "agency" that has barely been able to break even in the past few years (despite having a monopoly on the quickly declining postal letter). Could an agency responsible for the well-being of millions of people be as efficient as privatized medicine?
But private health care does need a swift kick in the ass.
"There are so man americans who don't have healthcare"
So? Who's moral right is it to demand that I pay for them to have it?
The issue most people have with the private health care system remaning alongside Obama's new public healthcare sstem is that the public healthcare system has essentially an infinate amunt of funding - the american overnment. It can and WILL drive private industry out of business. Whether or not that's a good thing is up to one's perspective, though ;)
i believe we have to address the fact that we have a problem in health care but claiming socializing it will leave some people behind is not a fair argument we must look at which one is more effective not just for those who have health care now but for everyone. i just wish republicans would stop using that argument
Republicans are generally not very smart people. However, there ARE a nice amount of smart ones who don't agree with public healthcare - and their rasoning is entirely sound. Taking a person's money to give to another person without their consent is thievery. It doesn't matter if it was for the good of another, it's still theft. It's also not MY responsibility to work my ass off in order to pay for someone else - that's just absurd.
I dont get people like you...what wrong with giving like 5- 20$ to someone else so they live? its like..whats wrong with that? people like you. strike me as selfish. I'm sorry if thats offensive. but your selfish you care about yourself fuck the other Americans its all about you. thats stupid.
You're reading far too much into what I said. I never said I was against charity or giving to those without. What I'm explicitly against is the use of FORCE to ensure that this happens.
Because when it comes down to it it's armed robbery. Even if it's for the greater good, I'm not willing to sacrifice my freedom of choice in how I choose to spend what I EARN. It's immoral for a government to mandate such a thing. Whether or not it is good in the long run is another story, but I think that it would be a bitter-sweet victory at best.
That's entirely fine with me. That way, it's an opt out system. And honestly, I'd probably opt in. I see nothing wrong with choosing - for MYSELF, mind you - to help others. When it's mandated through force, the philanthropy sort of looses its edge.
Corperations, though, operate as ndviduals in much the same way that the cells of the body make up an ndvidual human.
I'm not sure I see the merit in taxing people for productivity (money is the surest sgn of production and use to a society). I think corperations should have opt out systems as well.
public health care ftw!
"did you research anything at all?" lmao
boundary121 2 years ago
The romance of socializing health care sounds great, however I'm not sure if it will work. I mean, look at how most government agencies are run. The postal service is a horribly inefficient "agency" that has barely been able to break even in the past few years (despite having a monopoly on the quickly declining postal letter). Could an agency responsible for the well-being of millions of people be as efficient as privatized medicine?
But private health care does need a swift kick in the ass.
mentaloasis 2 years ago
lol health cars
komron 2 years ago
"There are so man americans who don't have healthcare"
So? Who's moral right is it to demand that I pay for them to have it?
The issue most people have with the private health care system remaning alongside Obama's new public healthcare sstem is that the public healthcare system has essentially an infinate amunt of funding - the american overnment. It can and WILL drive private industry out of business. Whether or not that's a good thing is up to one's perspective, though ;)
GecSword 2 years ago
i believe we have to address the fact that we have a problem in health care but claiming socializing it will leave some people behind is not a fair argument we must look at which one is more effective not just for those who have health care now but for everyone. i just wish republicans would stop using that argument
tefigoesbloop 2 years ago
Republicans are generally not very smart people. However, there ARE a nice amount of smart ones who don't agree with public healthcare - and their rasoning is entirely sound. Taking a person's money to give to another person without their consent is thievery. It doesn't matter if it was for the good of another, it's still theft. It's also not MY responsibility to work my ass off in order to pay for someone else - that's just absurd.
Free market economy for all! Ron Paul '08!
GecSword 2 years ago
I dont get people like you...what wrong with giving like 5- 20$ to someone else so they live? its like..whats wrong with that? people like you. strike me as selfish. I'm sorry if thats offensive. but your selfish you care about yourself fuck the other Americans its all about you. thats stupid.
Lusa5 2 years ago
You're reading far too much into what I said. I never said I was against charity or giving to those without. What I'm explicitly against is the use of FORCE to ensure that this happens.
GecSword 2 years ago
..Well if its helping people..why should it matter?
Lusa5 2 years ago
Because when it comes down to it it's armed robbery. Even if it's for the greater good, I'm not willing to sacrifice my freedom of choice in how I choose to spend what I EARN. It's immoral for a government to mandate such a thing. Whether or not it is good in the long run is another story, but I think that it would be a bitter-sweet victory at best.
GecSword 2 years ago
They should make it. that people like you dont get health care or help with health care. and people who want it can get it and help with it.
how about that?
Lusa5 2 years ago
That's entirely fine with me. That way, it's an opt out system. And honestly, I'd probably opt in. I see nothing wrong with choosing - for MYSELF, mind you - to help others. When it's mandated through force, the philanthropy sort of looses its edge.
GecSword 2 years ago
oooh ok. that sounds better..yeah thats what I was thinking too! people who want healthcare pitch in and help keep the money flowing.
and people who dont want to pay for it dont half to get it. that sounds fair.
they should tax big corporations too. that should help with getting money. corporations make very very much money. so it sounds like a good idea
Lusa5 2 years ago
Corperations, though, operate as ndviduals in much the same way that the cells of the body make up an ndvidual human.
I'm not sure I see the merit in taxing people for productivity (money is the surest sgn of production and use to a society). I think corperations should have opt out systems as well.
GecSword 2 years ago
great job!
Emil246 2 years ago
way to provide comedic relief emil! health care plans wooo!
tefigoesbloop 2 years ago