Ron Paul wouldn't do anything about Soviet expansion policy until the entire world except for the U.S. is communist and they attacked us . What a joke , I'm glad he's not the president .
@jurassicturd3 Fear mongering ? Study Soviet and Communist expansion policy and how that led to the iron curtain, the Berlin crisis , the Cuban missile crisis , and every war fought between communists and democracy in Europe , Asia , South America , the Caribbean , and the Atlantic Ocean . If Ron Paul was president then the Soviet would've steam rolled over him . It's a matter of reality something both Republican and Democratic presidents faced during the Cold War .
@haibane13 you're a fear mongerer, both the USA and Soviet union spread their ideological imperialism throughout the world. The USA puts missiles in Turkey so Russia puts them in Cuba, russia supports North Vietnam so America supports South Vietnam. Russia invades Afgahnistan so USA supports mujadeen (who become the taliban and AQ) USA rigged elections in europe and Russia claimed nations as buffer states. There was no right side in the Cold War, two imperialist powers using the world selfishly
@jurassicturd3 Wrong , the Soviet Union and the United States "agreed" to let nations decide for themselves what kind of government they chose . This fell apart immediately with the Iron Curtain and the United States understood that the Communist nation would never honor their agreement . This is exactly why the United States intervened to keep the Soviet from making a war of conquest .
@jurassicturd3 Also the Soviet Union had an army that could not be defeated conventionally even by the United States this is why the nuclear arms build up occurred had the United States not stepped up the ante the Soviet Union would not have cared to do what they wanted without opposition which exactly what they immediately began to do with again the Iron Curtain and the Berlin event . It was the fact that our nuclear build up was superior to the Soviets that kept them in check
@jurassicturd3 there was definitely a right side the Communist policy was perhaps the most oppressive government ever seen , Nazism pales by comparison . Tens of Millions were slaughtered for religious , economic , and political reasons .
@jurassicturd3 OK It didn't mean the Nazis wouldn't have slaughtered them anyway war or no war and SOviet expansion policy was insanely aggressive towards war . Furthermore the Soviet Union began slaughtering millions during "peace time" , before Nazism even took hold of Germany . In one year between 1937-1938, 1.2 million soviets were killed in a purge and that's just 1 example .
The Soviet Missle crisis was solved not through diplomacy but through deterrent . There was plenty of military action during the crisis and it was almost a miracle that they managed to not go to nuclear war . Diplomacy didn't make the crisis better it made it worse and both sides managed to push toward their goals despite of it . His views on foreign relations are terrible he reminds me of Woodrow Wilson who shared many of his views on foreign relations only to realize that reality is different
Hmm, ever think foreign policies might be the reason the rest of the world hates the US? Lol who knows, maybe these people love us enforcing our rules on them:). Watch team america world police lol, sadly its the least bias view on foreign policy i've ever seen.
I can't believe that Ron Paul would simply refuse to halt the brutal murder of a million innocent people (e.g. Rwanda) simply because such an act doesn't fit into his vision of 'the legitimate role of government'.
@JoeJC The misunderstanding about the proper role of government is exactly why we have been involved in all these wars for the past 100 years. As a people we do have a moral obligation to help others around the world, and we should help others, but our government is not the proper vehicle for doing that. Our government was established to protect the individual liberty of its citizens, not to be the policeman of the world.
@b2bdown The U.S. people, as private citizens were not capable of stopping the genocide in Rwanda; the U.S. government was though. Are you really willing to say that because the founding fathers had a purely non-interventionist foreign policy outlook, the government should never attempt to prevent the extermination of 1,000,000 innocent people somewhere in the world?
@JoeJC I believe our government should do everything it can to prevent such atrocities in the world from occurring, short of force of arms. Once we cross that line we have dirtied our hands and must face the inevitable unintended consequences of those actions. So it's really a matter of looking at the big picture. Our government is always trying to sell another war that is supposed to prevent the next holocaust. As far as a Rwanda genocide situation, I think our founders
@JoeJC would have much trepidation over a decision to thrust America into a war far removed from America's own borders. We can't always predict what will happen after we come in and change the balance of power in a region, often our predictions are completely wrong. Toppling one dictator may very likely present an even worse one to the people. I admit it's not a perfect ideology, few human contrivances are, but I believe a non-interventionist policy would do much more good than harm.
@JoeJC yep my god i hope he gets to be president i will vote for him, hell with rwanda we are americans we worry about united states not rwanda. its how it is we live in reality this should not even be up for argument.
@JoeJC Psst. When the government interjects in that fashion, dictators get propped up that the people hate, thus the people over there hate us, thus the people eventually overthrow the dictator we prop up, thus they eventually attack us.
John Adams didn't want to fight for France when England had a problem with them. And France and England ended up coming to reconciliation. This is what we should be following. UP-HOLD THE CONSTITUTION!!!
@jubeikiba6 I read that their Task Force II (anti-terrorism) team is like one of the toughest special forces in the world. I dont know too much about their other military though.
have any politician sad to you why we have 737 military bases around the world ? that cost us 1 trillion a year and why we have 50,000 soldiers in germany and 30,000 in japan since WW2 and 36,000 since korean war !! Ron Paul has the best foreign policy its called NON INTERVENTION that what the founding fathers wanted !!
Ron Paul is the only legitimate constitutional representative. The others more than likely could not even pass a basic exam on the Constitution and its Amendments (Bill of Rights). I have asked some candidates about their position on the 9th or 10th Amendment. They typically reply something like "Would you refresh my memory". We need a libertarian president & congress.
can someone explain why Ron thinks korean war was unjustified? Without US army support i know south korea would not exist on global map by now. I mean i would not want to live under dictatorship..
@hongmancho10 well every nation should stand up and fight for its freedom the U.S can hellp with weapons and traning but you have to stand up and fight for your country !!
I'm glad south Korea is not under north Korean rule, My step-family escaped n.korea, but his stance (as i understand it) is that it is not America's job to make other countries do the right thing. If we set the precedent that america is responsible for how others behave, none of the problems in our own country will be fixed. in other words, a country's function is running itself, much as the individual is responsible for his/here life.
Biggest problem for a libertarian would be to face the incipid congress. With All the issues he raised it would be a miracle for congress to pass any of those bills and plans he proposed even though it would be the only thing saving america from complete collapse.
@Minhist True, but he could veto everything that they pass. Also, if people actually vote for him, hopefully they do, then that means that America is serious and they would start voting libertarians into Congress. I think that by the time a person like him becomes President, Congress will already have a nice amount of libertarians.
When did this way of thinking become a minority? The only way this country will reverse its present course is for someone like this to get into office. If Palin or Romney wins, the Republicans will hoot and hollar, but they won't reverse anything. They may slow things down a bit, but slowing down a car going 120mph doesn't do anything when you are 2 feet from a brick wall.
@thatcrazypiranhaguy Hell, I know what a conservative is! It's you that is mistaking a constitutionalist and a conservative.. My point was that Stossel is a reporter and asking the questions to initiate a provacative answer from Paul. Stossel is a coservative! Just watch his show on Fox and you will understand that he is NOT A LIBERAL! He was fired from CBS because of his political views!!
@thatcrazypiranhaguy Stossel is just playing devil's advocate, he is not objecting to Paul's theory of government intervention in the lives of Americans nor other countries. He is just trying to provoke answers from him that are inciteful and interesting. Stossel is a true conservative and you can see that by watching his show on Fox Business network.
Hmm, I agree with 99% of Paul's outlook on government but I think he is wrong on the genocide element.
In WWII, I believe that it should have been up to he US and it's allies to stop Germany, even if Pearl Harbor didn't happen.
If you are a big man and you see another man killing a woman or a child would you not have the moral obligation to subdue the would-be murderer? Isn't that what makes a man a man? Self sacrifice for what is right.
Sure, you can go voluntarily and fight for the good yourself. But you have no moral right to ask the government to force me to go with you. That's libertarianism.
True but unfortunately, I don't think 100% libertarianism would work. Pure libertarian is like pure liberal just on the other side of the aisle. Personally I am in between libertarian and independent. I think we need some government. On some issues (like WWII) when the vast majority of the US decides that the Germans must be stopped, there must be a mechanism in place that "forces" the nation to stand together in defiance. If a nation is equally divided how can it stand?
Ron Paul is not an anarchist, government has important role in a free society: military, police, and legal system, maybe few more minor things, so no 100% libertarianism there.
I understand your point of view about involvement when other nations are suffering. Ideally it would be nice if we could get in and topple the opressors. However there are always unintended consequences of all kinds. Example: toppling Saddam Hussein was by many a noble thing, but look what's going on now.
@yadranko To my understanding libertarianism is not 100% anti-government, it is pro-proper, limited government. Pretty much the functions you described. Also, ideally, our armed forces are actors for our rights, not for those of others. Our civilians' may give support voluntarily- and in a free society, they would. The problem is when government takes over functions it shouldn't , that otherwise free people would gladly do, and do better.
@karozans "Hmm, I agree with 99% of Paul's outlook on government but I think he is wrong on the genocide element"
genocides happen all the the time & we've even backed Saddam who was just as bad. the part where you're greatly mistaken is if u think that genocide was the principle reason we fought WW2.
we didn't. if hitler was doing it and had never invaded poland and all the other european countries the US and the Allies would have left Hitler alone becuz he wasnt a threat to our security.
@dab0331 Even if genocides happen all the time what does that have to do with anything?
If a man is killing his wife and kids on the street are you just going to stand by and watch? Will you just dial 911 and then walk away because it is none of your business?
Are you a coward?
REAL MEN step in and protect the innocent from tyrants at all costs.
I never said genocide was why we fought WW2. Don't put words in my mouth.
@karozans yes but u gotta understand that trying to be the police men of the world is not just arrogant given america's history it is counter productive and results in blow back and unintended consequences.
take somalia for example.
when we were going after Aidid we killed a lot of innocent ppl in the crossfire. going in and blowing up their homes after a man whom they "perceived" to be good and on their side only angered the somalis and made them resent us and fight us even more ferociously.
@karozans "We aren't bombing Pakistan, we are bombing terrorist cells inside of Pakistan."
LOL. yes that's like the hijackers saying we weren't bombing civilians we were bombing the world trade center in an attempt to inflict a blow on the US's economy.
Nope! I am pretty sure that the terrorists thought they were bombing America and innocent civilians. Or else they would have tried to hit a military base.
The only reason why they flew the one plane into the Pentagon is because they couldn't find the the origional target and the Pentagon was very recognizable from the air.
If Pakistan got rid of the terrorists, I am 99.999% certain the bombing would stop.
@karozans no its already clearly established that they wanted to not just inflict a pyschological blow but also an economic one.
that's besides the fucking point.
again u fukcing completely ignore my spain-mexico analogy.
if our supposed allie, spain, was at war with mexico & started bombing our cities & killin our children becuz we "refused" to find and arrest "terrorist cells" of mexican-american sympathisers we wouldn't stand for it and we'd shoot back.
Yep. By and kill as many innocent civilains as possible. I like how you trust the words that come out of terrorists mouths.
Your analogy is ridiculous. If indeed we had terrorist cells inside our country would would be doing everything possible to kill them and we would be working with spain to do so as well.
That is part of doing the right thing.
If Pakistan that the USA was so wrong by us bombing the terrorists inside their country, I guess they can always fight back.
@karozans "If indeed we had terrorist cells inside our country would would be doing everything possible to kill them"
pakistan is trying to capture the terrorist stupid. and even gave us many of the top dogs and osama's 2nd hand man idiot."I like how you trust the words that come out of terrorists mouths."
stop listening to the television and the globalist propaganda.
i doubt u even know why we had the hostage crisis of iran and why they did it. u know nothing of mossadegh.
"pakistan is trying to capture the terrorist stupid. and even gave us many of the top dogs and osama's 2nd hand man idiot."I like how you trust the words that come out of terrorists mouths."
That's very naive of you. Pakistan knew for a fact that Osama is living 1 block away from their military base.
Pakistan is not doing anything to kill terrorists in their country. Once a year Pakistan arrests a few terrorists just to appease the USA to keep us from doing more bombing.
@karozans "That's very naive of you. Pakistan knew for a fact that Osama is living 1 block away from their military base"
that's government propaganda. osama has been dead for fucking years now.
u honestly believe Obama's bullshit story?? come one now we showed pics of Zarqawi who at the time was even biggger than Osama. and why the fuck would we bury him at sea instead of just burying him a military base??
@karozans you're a fucking idiot if u believe that story. if u believe osama was killed recently than i guess u still think saddam really had WMD's. give me a fucking break.
the federal government cant even win the war on drugs and trace petty drug dealers. you're living in lala land.
There are 2 people in this world that I believe. The first one is me, and the other one isn't you.
I believe that people like you are cowards and sissies and want everyone to love them so you appease them and sit idly by while evil happens.
The government could win the war on drugs if they started killing everyone who used drugs with tommahawk missles. But that is besides the point. I want to legalize most drugs.
@karozans "The government could win the war on drugs if they started kill ing everyone who used drugs with tommahawk missles"
lol.... that would be half the population of hte US and in doing so you'd have to give up the bill of rights and all your civil liberties which means America as we know it would cease to exist.
you're idea that pakistan can wave a wand & capture all the terrorist with a magic wand while still protecting the rights of its ppl is naive at best.
@karozans " responded and said that the govnerment could if they killed everyone."
that's besides the point. finding terrorist while protecting the rights of your citizens is a lot harder than it sounds. so this idea that pakistan hasn't helpd us is bush/obama propaganda.
"that's besides the point. finding terrorist while protecting the rights of your citizens is a lot harder than it sounds. so this idea that pakistan hasn't helpd us is bush/obama propaganda."
Blah, Blah, Blah.
Just another excuse just to be a coward and do the wrong thing.
I bomb anyone who is committing genocide or harbouring terrrorists. Is it so difficult to understand that?
We don't bomb innocent families. We bomb terrorists. Once is a great while it is unforunate that an innocent family is killed, but that is the price we pay for doing the right thing.
@karozans " bomb anyone who is committing genocide or harbouring terrrorists. Is it so difficult to understand that?"
hmm than maybe pakistan should start bombing the US since we have quite a few terrorist cells and even thoguh they're not at war with us and are our "allies".
@karozans neither does pakistan u fucking tard. there is a distinct diffrence between what a bunch of rogue thugs and what the govenrment of that country does.
"What do you think the Patriot Act was for"
what do u think Hitler's Enabling act was for?
maybe it's to spy on the ppl and enact the police state and trample on our bill of rights.
maybe u should watch and learn who really runs the country and learn how american business funded both sides of WW2. the very ppl Smedley Butler warned us about.
I have no idea WTF this has to do with anything, but okay.
PS. Hitler came to power because Neville Chamberlain was a pussy just like you and was affraid to look evil in the face instead of stabbing him in the neck with a pencil.
@karozans "PS. Hitler came to power because Neville Chamberlain was a pussy just like you and was affraid to look evil in the face instead of stabbing him in the neck with a pencil."
@dab0331 american business or american businesses. the conspiracy theorists will draw lines where there aren't any via historical bias. Check out michael shermer's work on conspiracy theories in the believing brain
@dab0331 that the bush administration planned or intentionally allowed the hijackers to do their work on 9-11, based on intel that an attack was eminent, or the attack on pearl harbor.
The intelligence being fed to the president and the DOD on specific attacks are so vast, that they can't respond to every threat, and when something happens, some zeitgeist watcher says, 'hey! they knew it and didn't do anything about it! they are pushing their own agenda for WORLD DOMINATION!!'
@kelbykross1 so vast my ass. like the underwear bomber who was able to get on a plane wihtout a passport and was escorted on the plane by a man in a fine suit claiming to work with the feds.
@dab0331 i don't remember the number, but they received intel reports on a daily basis on different attacks targeted everywhere from california to washington DC in WW2.
it's not a conspiracy theory. it simply shows the relations between 9/11 and the burning of the Reichstag. And the dangers of big government putting itself above our constitution.
@dab0331 from my experience in iraq, i can say that everything sticks out, but it only has to be one thing that blows up.
I agree that any meter of 'imminent threat' is pretty much bull. I think people vacationing outside the US should learn about where they are going and what is going on with the world, but here we aren't going to be able to do anything personally.
@kelbykross1 even if it wasn't planned like HItler's Reichstag event it is being used for the same purpose which is ot undermine the rule of law and our constitution and fear mongering to drag us into unlawful wars and destroy our civil liberties.
@dab0331 i agree with you 100% with the way the events have been used. I agree that our liberties are in dire trouble when the gov't goes off the deep end trying to secure everything.
@kelbykross1 there is no theory but there is a conspiracy... throughout history it has always only taken a small hand full of individuals in power to change the total direction of a country becuz they played the on the ignorance and prejudices of the people.
there's always ppl at the top conspiring for power.
yes.. i guess u also believe Hitler when he said that Poland attacked Germany first. are u really this fucking stupid. ppl dont blow themselves up for no reason dufus.
"The reason why we supported these dictators is because of liberal democrat and Rino's in the WH.
I am Libertarian. I would have killed these dictators on day 1."
youre a fucking neo-con. u aint no libertarian.
fucking Donaldrumsfeld new what the fuck Saddam was doing. dont give me that partisan bullshit. the dems and republicans are 2 sides of the same coin.
@karozans that's not even the point. sometimes criminal elements become impossible to trace down.
look at fucking mexico. they're so fucking cold hearted hardly anyone is willing to stand up to them out of fear of loosing their head and the government is desperately trying to control the situation to no avail.
to point is you're violating another nation's sovereignty.
imagine if China had bases in texas and new york and had ships stationed in the gulf of mexico.
@karozans wake the fuck up and realize that the US is the real terrorist and supporter of dictators like Osama, Saddam, Mubarak, the Royal Saudi Family, and Gaddafi, etc.
"wake the fuck up and realize that the US is the real terrorist and supporter of dictators like Osama, Saddam, Mubarak, the Royal Saudi Family, and Gaddafi, etc."
Spoken like a true liberal sheep. You aren't Libertarian. You are a Liberal.
The reason why we supported these dictators is because of liberal democrat and Rino's in the WH.
I am Libertarian. I would have killed these dictators on day 1.
@karozans considering that hispanics are the largest minority in the US what makes u think the US government would be able to tract all cells if there was a war between mexico and spain??
we can't even keep weed of out the fucking country. give me a break.
@karozans and continuing with the example of somalia u can't blame them for hating the US and wanting to kill us becuz they're ignorant of what Aidid has done.
and that is precisely what the US is doing. the american ppl are ignorant of america's past but it doesn't stop al-qaeda wanting to exact revenge.
it doesn't justify 9/11 becuz it was an all civilian target but their anger is justified
imagine if the russians were bombing our homes & arresting our congressmen in the name of democracy.
I don't care if a country hates me for doing the right thing and stopping a genocide. I am willing to make that sacrifice. If you want other countries to love you so much, then get down on your knees and bow to them. I won't.
If the politicians would let the general do their job. Al-Qaeda and the Taliban would have been decimated in the first month of battle.
If you think 911 was justified then you are a psychopath.
@karozans whatever we do whether it is going in to interfere and accidently killing a lot of people america will get the blame.
and vis versa if we stand by and do nothing we get the blame.
I'd hate to say it but ppl gotta fight their own battles and win their own freedom.
some of the very jews we helped in WW2 are so fucking ignorant that they've come here and want to take away our 2nd amendment rights even after what had happened to them.
imagine if the US was allies with spain and they were in a war with mexico.
but even though we're allies spain decides to use drones and bomb houston and dallas, texas becuz of mexican-american sympathizers of mexico are sneaking into mexico from america & help the mexican fight the spanish.
we wouldn't stand by as a supposed allie bombed our cities but it's PRECISELY what we're doing to pakistan and a lot of innocent families are killed.
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lets all vote for ron paul because he'll bring real hope and change.... and it'll get us back the old white guy puppet... he still believes the gov had NOTHING to do w/ 911, it was 19 cavemen that learn how to fly a 500mph plane into a target barely wider than it's own wings, whatev, another cleaver puppet
Actually if you looked it up its the atomic bombing of japan bombings as in plural im not trying to point out that you didnt know about the bombings i was trying to point out that you said ounce your calling it the atomic bombing of japan its actually bombings hence why I said twice. Now it doesnt argue the point made on the comment of the destructive power of the worlds arsenal I agree with your point it doesnt matter how much we have 1 launch is enough to send the world to hell.
just because the location and time period are the same does not mean that it would be one instance. It was two different incances in different locations of the same country a few days apart rather than te same day. Hence why it was twice in history. Remember the Truman had intended to drop the bomb only ounce but because lack of response from the government (mainly due to a betrayal by fanatic generals) the second bomb was dropped. hence two different instance during the same period in history
Empire? The very definition means that it would be ruled by the elite. For a country to be ruled by the people the people must first be educated on the nature of liberty and how it is achieved and maintained. Educated people do not want an empire as they realize that this is antithetical to liberty.
here's my evidence you loser. if no one is policing the world then there will be chaos. if you think i'm wrong look what happen in WW2. no one cared what the nazi were until it was too late and hitler killed 6 million people. i'm not saying USa should only be the world police i'm saying that they should be involve just like others countries like Britain, china, russia etc. and Ron paul doesn't want that because he doesn't know what's good for this world or his country.
I love your immense analysis on world problems: "World War 2 happened because no one was policing the world." Yep, that's what caused it.
There may be instances where we need to get involved with other countries, yes: it may be necessary to become involved with Middle-Eastern theocratic governments getting nuclear arms.
But to dismiss everything he says due to one position to disagree with, calling him an "old fart," makes you look like an idiot. Next time, formulate thoughts, not insults...
If we can take care of our own people how the fuck are we going to do all these wonderful things in other countries!?!?! STFU and get your head out your liberal ass.
WWll began the day Hitler invaded Poland in 39.There was little justification for war before that(Sudetenland was majority German & welcomed Hitler).The Allied nations acted appropriately. And they beat Hitler
.There's no evidence that any lives could have been saved by following any other course of action.
If you don't believe me,look it up at Wikipedia & shut your stupid arrogant mouth when you don't know what you're talking about.
You're just making a fool of yourself on this thread.
I live in Montana... Don't worry, we can handle them Canucks. ;P We'll just beat them in hockey. Problem solved.
Pepperzify 2 months ago
Of course there are plans. It's called directed history.
dd00hli 3 months ago
Paul / Napolitano!!!!2012!!!!
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Ron Paul wouldn't do anything about Soviet expansion policy until the entire world except for the U.S. is communist and they attacked us . What a joke , I'm glad he's not the president .
haibane13 9 months ago
@haibane13 you're a fear mongering idiot
jurassicturd3 8 months ago
@jurassicturd3 Fear mongering ? Study Soviet and Communist expansion policy and how that led to the iron curtain, the Berlin crisis , the Cuban missile crisis , and every war fought between communists and democracy in Europe , Asia , South America , the Caribbean , and the Atlantic Ocean . If Ron Paul was president then the Soviet would've steam rolled over him . It's a matter of reality something both Republican and Democratic presidents faced during the Cold War .
haibane13 8 months ago
@haibane13 you're a fear mongerer, both the USA and Soviet union spread their ideological imperialism throughout the world. The USA puts missiles in Turkey so Russia puts them in Cuba, russia supports North Vietnam so America supports South Vietnam. Russia invades Afgahnistan so USA supports mujadeen (who become the taliban and AQ) USA rigged elections in europe and Russia claimed nations as buffer states. There was no right side in the Cold War, two imperialist powers using the world selfishly
jurassicturd3 8 months ago
@jurassicturd3 Wrong , the Soviet Union and the United States "agreed" to let nations decide for themselves what kind of government they chose . This fell apart immediately with the Iron Curtain and the United States understood that the Communist nation would never honor their agreement . This is exactly why the United States intervened to keep the Soviet from making a war of conquest .
haibane13 8 months ago
@jurassicturd3 Also the Soviet Union had an army that could not be defeated conventionally even by the United States this is why the nuclear arms build up occurred had the United States not stepped up the ante the Soviet Union would not have cared to do what they wanted without opposition which exactly what they immediately began to do with again the Iron Curtain and the Berlin event . It was the fact that our nuclear build up was superior to the Soviets that kept them in check
haibane13 8 months ago
@jurassicturd3 there was definitely a right side the Communist policy was perhaps the most oppressive government ever seen , Nazism pales by comparison . Tens of Millions were slaughtered for religious , economic , and political reasons .
haibane13 8 months ago
@haibane13 Millions slaughtered in their own country whilst Nazism attacked the world.
jurassicturd3 8 months ago
@jurassicturd3 OK It didn't mean the Nazis wouldn't have slaughtered them anyway war or no war and SOviet expansion policy was insanely aggressive towards war . Furthermore the Soviet Union began slaughtering millions during "peace time" , before Nazism even took hold of Germany . In one year between 1937-1938, 1.2 million soviets were killed in a purge and that's just 1 example .
haibane13 8 months ago
The Soviet Missle crisis was solved not through diplomacy but through deterrent . There was plenty of military action during the crisis and it was almost a miracle that they managed to not go to nuclear war . Diplomacy didn't make the crisis better it made it worse and both sides managed to push toward their goals despite of it . His views on foreign relations are terrible he reminds me of Woodrow Wilson who shared many of his views on foreign relations only to realize that reality is different
haibane13 9 months ago
Even an atheist would say GOD BLESS RON PAUL!!
postalmeter 9 months ago
Haha Montana could handle a Canadian invasion! hahahaha!!
spanishwhiskey 10 months ago 5
Hmm, ever think foreign policies might be the reason the rest of the world hates the US? Lol who knows, maybe these people love us enforcing our rules on them:). Watch team america world police lol, sadly its the least bias view on foreign policy i've ever seen.
FuckMeatStew 11 months ago
I love Ron Paul! Every time he speaks I can hear real education and real truth. He's not the run of the mill politician!
willfarrarmusic 11 months ago
LOL Montana could probably take care of it. awesome!
baezalejandro 11 months ago 2
Ron Paul for President!!2012!!
mark695847 1 year ago
I can't believe that Ron Paul would simply refuse to halt the brutal murder of a million innocent people (e.g. Rwanda) simply because such an act doesn't fit into his vision of 'the legitimate role of government'.
JoeJC 1 year ago
@JoeJC The misunderstanding about the proper role of government is exactly why we have been involved in all these wars for the past 100 years. As a people we do have a moral obligation to help others around the world, and we should help others, but our government is not the proper vehicle for doing that. Our government was established to protect the individual liberty of its citizens, not to be the policeman of the world.
b2bdown 1 year ago
@b2bdown The U.S. people, as private citizens were not capable of stopping the genocide in Rwanda; the U.S. government was though. Are you really willing to say that because the founding fathers had a purely non-interventionist foreign policy outlook, the government should never attempt to prevent the extermination of 1,000,000 innocent people somewhere in the world?
JoeJC 1 year ago
@JoeJC I believe our government should do everything it can to prevent such atrocities in the world from occurring, short of force of arms. Once we cross that line we have dirtied our hands and must face the inevitable unintended consequences of those actions. So it's really a matter of looking at the big picture. Our government is always trying to sell another war that is supposed to prevent the next holocaust. As far as a Rwanda genocide situation, I think our founders
b2bdown 1 year ago
@JoeJC would have much trepidation over a decision to thrust America into a war far removed from America's own borders. We can't always predict what will happen after we come in and change the balance of power in a region, often our predictions are completely wrong. Toppling one dictator may very likely present an even worse one to the people. I admit it's not a perfect ideology, few human contrivances are, but I believe a non-interventionist policy would do much more good than harm.
b2bdown 1 year ago
@JoeJC yep my god i hope he gets to be president i will vote for him, hell with rwanda we are americans we worry about united states not rwanda. its how it is we live in reality this should not even be up for argument.
RagingGeneral 1 year ago
@JoeJC Psst. When the government interjects in that fashion, dictators get propped up that the people hate, thus the people over there hate us, thus the people eventually overthrow the dictator we prop up, thus they eventually attack us.
Basically, you're an idiot.
TheManiacalSatanist6 11 months ago
If Canada invades Montana...lol...
pJonathan22047 1 year ago
I may not quite agree with Ron Paul, but he sounds infinitely more competent than Bush.
Embrigh 1 year ago
John Adams didn't want to fight for France when England had a problem with them. And France and England ended up coming to reconciliation. This is what we should be following. UP-HOLD THE CONSTITUTION!!!
LatinLeo86 1 year ago
I think montana could handle it LOL!!!
I mean what's canada going to do send a herd of dear followed up by mounties.....
I know canada has a real military but that was the first image that popped into my head.
jubeikiba6 1 year ago 6
@jubeikiba6 I read that their Task Force II (anti-terrorism) team is like one of the toughest special forces in the world. I dont know too much about their other military though.
hivelocity100 1 year ago
have any politician sad to you why we have 737 military bases around the world ? that cost us 1 trillion a year and why we have 50,000 soldiers in germany and 30,000 in japan since WW2 and 36,000 since korean war !! Ron Paul has the best foreign policy its called NON INTERVENTION that what the founding fathers wanted !!
sargon08 1 year ago
anybody else see ron pauls face go blurry every so often. wtf
doonymacc 1 year ago
HAHAHAHAHA
I love his jab at Canada. Our military does indeed suck up here XD
LaughingMage 1 year ago 2
Canada Will Annex Montana in 2012
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moctezuma112 1 year ago
stossel is a great devils advocate, and it makes him a good interview
kommon12Cents 1 year ago 3
@kommon12Cents if only the media somehow magically had more people like him but thats not ever gonna happen lol
RagingGeneral 1 year ago
Ron Paul is the only legitimate constitutional representative. The others more than likely could not even pass a basic exam on the Constitution and its Amendments (Bill of Rights). I have asked some candidates about their position on the 9th or 10th Amendment. They typically reply something like "Would you refresh my memory". We need a libertarian president & congress.
cosmogenes 1 year ago
I love that he thinks Montana could handle an invasion from Canada.
ghuegel 1 year ago
can someone explain why Ron thinks korean war was unjustified? Without US army support i know south korea would not exist on global map by now. I mean i would not want to live under dictatorship..
hongmancho10 1 year ago
@hongmancho10 well every nation should stand up and fight for its freedom the U.S can hellp with weapons and traning but you have to stand up and fight for your country !!
sargon08 1 year ago
I'm glad south Korea is not under north Korean rule, My step-family escaped n.korea, but his stance (as i understand it) is that it is not America's job to make other countries do the right thing. If we set the precedent that america is responsible for how others behave, none of the problems in our own country will be fixed. in other words, a country's function is running itself, much as the individual is responsible for his/here life.
503mindst 1 year ago
Ron Paul for President in 2012
princez413 1 year ago
Paul / Stossel 2012
fearfullpeople 1 year ago 3
Too bad, thinking makes you a terrorist.
KevZen2000 1 year ago
John Stossels the shit, Him and Ron Paul on a ticket would be awesome
wannabestudd 1 year ago
Montana could take care of it! LMAO he just took a shit on Canada's army LOL
daconqueror101 1 year ago 4
Biggest problem for a libertarian would be to face the incipid congress. With All the issues he raised it would be a miracle for congress to pass any of those bills and plans he proposed even though it would be the only thing saving america from complete collapse.
Minhist 1 year ago
@Minhist True, but he could veto everything that they pass. Also, if people actually vote for him, hopefully they do, then that means that America is serious and they would start voting libertarians into Congress. I think that by the time a person like him becomes President, Congress will already have a nice amount of libertarians.
daconqueror101 1 year ago
@daconqueror101 Let's just hope so.
Minhist 1 year ago
When did this way of thinking become a minority? The only way this country will reverse its present course is for someone like this to get into office. If Palin or Romney wins, the Republicans will hoot and hollar, but they won't reverse anything. They may slow things down a bit, but slowing down a car going 120mph doesn't do anything when you are 2 feet from a brick wall.
crj2727 1 year ago
@crj2727 "Thinking" has become a minority.
pretorious700 1 year ago
@thatcrazypiranhaguy Hell, I know what a conservative is! It's you that is mistaking a constitutionalist and a conservative.. My point was that Stossel is a reporter and asking the questions to initiate a provacative answer from Paul. Stossel is a coservative! Just watch his show on Fox and you will understand that he is NOT A LIBERAL! He was fired from CBS because of his political views!!
coleyman1 1 year ago
@thatcrazypiranhaguy Stossel is just playing devil's advocate, he is not objecting to Paul's theory of government intervention in the lives of Americans nor other countries. He is just trying to provoke answers from him that are inciteful and interesting. Stossel is a true conservative and you can see that by watching his show on Fox Business network.
coleyman1 1 year ago
Ron Paul is a huge inspiration of mine and it still baffles me how he did not win the Republican nomination
unicorntaxi 1 year ago
I would love if a libertarian got into office. That would be real change.
HugoStiglitz86 1 year ago
when u think about it... Canada might have the advantage given the element of surprise. i mean would u really suspect Canada?
margoliesmedia 1 year ago
hahahaha Montana could take care of it...
margoliesmedia 1 year ago
@karozans the problem is we pick and choose. we don't help everybody that is being oppressed. Go protest an Abortion Clinic here!
YouSayYouWantA 1 year ago
"montana could probably take care of it". lol
Ukrainian11 2 years ago 3
Hmm, I agree with 99% of Paul's outlook on government but I think he is wrong on the genocide element.
In WWII, I believe that it should have been up to he US and it's allies to stop Germany, even if Pearl Harbor didn't happen.
If you are a big man and you see another man killing a woman or a child would you not have the moral obligation to subdue the would-be murderer? Isn't that what makes a man a man? Self sacrifice for what is right.
karozans 2 years ago
As he said: It's our obligation to make US better, not others.
manoman0 2 years ago 4
Ron Paul is not against war - he just is against undeclared wars. If the congress sees a justification for war, they can vote for it.
vidmanx0 1 year ago
Sure, you can go voluntarily and fight for the good yourself. But you have no moral right to ask the government to force me to go with you. That's libertarianism.
yadranko 1 year ago
True but unfortunately, I don't think 100% libertarianism would work. Pure libertarian is like pure liberal just on the other side of the aisle. Personally I am in between libertarian and independent. I think we need some government. On some issues (like WWII) when the vast majority of the US decides that the Germans must be stopped, there must be a mechanism in place that "forces" the nation to stand together in defiance. If a nation is equally divided how can it stand?
karozans 1 year ago
Ron Paul is not an anarchist, government has important role in a free society: military, police, and legal system, maybe few more minor things, so no 100% libertarianism there.
I understand your point of view about involvement when other nations are suffering. Ideally it would be nice if we could get in and topple the opressors. However there are always unintended consequences of all kinds. Example: toppling Saddam Hussein was by many a noble thing, but look what's going on now.
yadranko 1 year ago
@yadranko To my understanding libertarianism is not 100% anti-government, it is pro-proper, limited government. Pretty much the functions you described. Also, ideally, our armed forces are actors for our rights, not for those of others. Our civilians' may give support voluntarily- and in a free society, they would. The problem is when government takes over functions it shouldn't , that otherwise free people would gladly do, and do better.
lucentenor 1 year ago
@lucentenor I absolutely agree!
yadranko 1 year ago
@karozans "Hmm, I agree with 99% of Paul's outlook on government but I think he is wrong on the genocide element"
genocides happen all the the time & we've even backed Saddam who was just as bad. the part where you're greatly mistaken is if u think that genocide was the principle reason we fought WW2.
we didn't. if hitler was doing it and had never invaded poland and all the other european countries the US and the Allies would have left Hitler alone becuz he wasnt a threat to our security.
dab0331 8 months ago
@dab0331 Even if genocides happen all the time what does that have to do with anything?
If a man is killing his wife and kids on the street are you just going to stand by and watch? Will you just dial 911 and then walk away because it is none of your business?
Are you a coward?
REAL MEN step in and protect the innocent from tyrants at all costs.
I never said genocide was why we fought WW2. Don't put words in my mouth.
karozans 8 months ago
@karozans yes but u gotta understand that trying to be the police men of the world is not just arrogant given america's history it is counter productive and results in blow back and unintended consequences.
take somalia for example.
when we were going after Aidid we killed a lot of innocent ppl in the crossfire. going in and blowing up their homes after a man whom they "perceived" to be good and on their side only angered the somalis and made them resent us and fight us even more ferociously.
dab0331 8 months ago
@dab0331 I never said anything about policing the world.
I said he got the genocide thing wrong. When a country is commiting genocide on a race of people, we should kick that country's ass and get out.
We could have killed Saddam and his army and left in about 4 weeks.
I am not interested in the sob stories. All is fair when it comes to war.
karozans 8 months ago
@karozans " All is fair when it comes to war"
then i guess 9/11 was justified huh...
ever heard of hypocrisy? becuz that what you're guilty of.
dab0331 8 months ago
@dab0331
Nope. 911 was terrorism. You must be a liberal if you don't know the difference between terrorism and war.
Ever hear of stupidity. Because that is what you're guilty of.
karozans 8 months ago
@karozans "Nope. 911 was terrorism"
how is 9/11 any differen from nagasaki or the drone strikes in pakistan???
last time i checked bombing an allie country is an act of terrorism.
dab0331 8 months ago
@dab0331
Nagasaki was a war. The drone strikes in Pakistan is war.
We aren't bombing Pakistan, we are bombing terrorist cells inside of Pakistan.
karozans 8 months ago
@karozans "We aren't bombing Pakistan, we are bombing terrorist cells inside of Pakistan."
LOL. yes that's like the hijackers saying we weren't bombing civilians we were bombing the world trade center in an attempt to inflict a blow on the US's economy.
dab0331 8 months ago
@dab0331
Nope! I am pretty sure that the terrorists thought they were bombing America and innocent civilians. Or else they would have tried to hit a military base.
The only reason why they flew the one plane into the Pentagon is because they couldn't find the the origional target and the Pentagon was very recognizable from the air.
If Pakistan got rid of the terrorists, I am 99.999% certain the bombing would stop.
karozans 8 months ago
@karozans no its already clearly established that they wanted to not just inflict a pyschological blow but also an economic one.
that's besides the fucking point.
again u fukcing completely ignore my spain-mexico analogy.
if our supposed allie, spain, was at war with mexico & started bombing our cities & killin our children becuz we "refused" to find and arrest "terrorist cells" of mexican-american sympathisers we wouldn't stand for it and we'd shoot back.
dab0331 8 months ago
@dab0331
Yep. By and kill as many innocent civilains as possible. I like how you trust the words that come out of terrorists mouths.
Your analogy is ridiculous. If indeed we had terrorist cells inside our country would would be doing everything possible to kill them and we would be working with spain to do so as well.
That is part of doing the right thing.
If Pakistan that the USA was so wrong by us bombing the terrorists inside their country, I guess they can always fight back.
karozans 8 months ago
@karozans "If indeed we had terrorist cells inside our country would would be doing everything possible to kill them"
pakistan is trying to capture the terrorist stupid. and even gave us many of the top dogs and osama's 2nd hand man idiot."I like how you trust the words that come out of terrorists mouths."
stop listening to the television and the globalist propaganda.
i doubt u even know why we had the hostage crisis of iran and why they did it. u know nothing of mossadegh.
dab0331 8 months ago
@dab0331
"pakistan is trying to capture the terrorist stupid. and even gave us many of the top dogs and osama's 2nd hand man idiot."I like how you trust the words that come out of terrorists mouths."
That's very naive of you. Pakistan knew for a fact that Osama is living 1 block away from their military base.
Pakistan is not doing anything to kill terrorists in their country. Once a year Pakistan arrests a few terrorists just to appease the USA to keep us from doing more bombing.
karozans 8 months ago
@karozans "That's very naive of you. Pakistan knew for a fact that Osama is living 1 block away from their military base"
that's government propaganda. osama has been dead for fucking years now.
u honestly believe Obama's bullshit story?? come one now we showed pics of Zarqawi who at the time was even biggger than Osama. and why the fuck would we bury him at sea instead of just burying him a military base??
you can't be this fuckign gullible.
dab0331 8 months ago
@dab0331
Nope wrong again! That's commen sense.
Wow. Not only are you a liberal sheep, you are a consipracy theorist as well.
And I thought the birthers were crazy???
karozans 8 months ago
@karozans you're a fucking idiot if u believe that story. if u believe osama was killed recently than i guess u still think saddam really had WMD's. give me a fucking break.
the federal government cant even win the war on drugs and trace petty drug dealers. you're living in lala land.
dab0331 8 months ago
@dab0331
There are 2 people in this world that I believe. The first one is me, and the other one isn't you.
I believe that people like you are cowards and sissies and want everyone to love them so you appease them and sit idly by while evil happens.
The government could win the war on drugs if they started killing everyone who used drugs with tommahawk missles. But that is besides the point. I want to legalize most drugs.
karozans 8 months ago
@karozans "The government could win the war on drugs if they started kill ing everyone who used drugs with tommahawk missles"
lol.... that would be half the population of hte US and in doing so you'd have to give up the bill of rights and all your civil liberties which means America as we know it would cease to exist.
you're idea that pakistan can wave a wand & capture all the terrorist with a magic wand while still protecting the rights of its ppl is naive at best.
dab0331 8 months ago
@dab0331
You made a point about how the government couldn't win the war on drugs.
I responded and said that the govnerment could if they killed everyone.
Are you stupid or just retarded? I never said they SHOULD, I said they COULD.
I then said that I want to legalize most drugs.
Your last sentence is so stupid I am not going to respond to it.
karozans 8 months ago
@karozans " responded and said that the govnerment could if they killed everyone."
that's besides the point. finding terrorist while protecting the rights of your citizens is a lot harder than it sounds. so this idea that pakistan hasn't helpd us is bush/obama propaganda.
dab0331 8 months ago
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@dab0331
"that's besides the point. finding terrorist while protecting the rights of your citizens is a lot harder than it sounds. so this idea that pakistan hasn't helpd us is bush/obama propaganda."
Blah, Blah, Blah.
Just another excuse just to be a coward and do the wrong thing.
karozans 8 months ago
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"You are a terrorist sympathizer and you should move to Iraq"
yes just like Hitler told the germans that the jews were communist sympathisers.
hmmm interesting.
history has a funny way of repeating itself.
dab0331 8 months ago
nor even if it is true... do u bomb a country if you're not at war with that country.
again.. youre fucking hypocritical nazi if u think bombing innocent families in Pakistan is justified. i suggest u go shake osama's hand in hell.
dab0331 8 months ago
@dab0331
I bomb anyone who is committing genocide or harbouring terrrorists. Is it so difficult to understand that?
We don't bomb innocent families. We bomb terrorists. Once is a great while it is unforunate that an innocent family is killed, but that is the price we pay for doing the right thing.
Your Osama comment was stupid.
karozans 8 months ago
@karozans " bomb anyone who is committing genocide or harbouring terrrorists. Is it so difficult to understand that?"
hmm than maybe pakistan should start bombing the US since we have quite a few terrorist cells and even thoguh they're not at war with us and are our "allies".
dab0331 8 months ago
@dab0331
We don't harbour the terrorist cells in America you stupid liberal.
We are trying to find them. What do you think the Patriot Act was for. Do you think that Bush wanted to hear you talk dirty to your wife on the phone?
karozans 8 months ago
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@karozans neither does pakistan u fucking tard. there is a distinct diffrence between what a bunch of rogue thugs and what the govenrment of that country does.
"What do you think the Patriot Act was for"
what do u think Hitler's Enabling act was for?
maybe it's to spy on the ppl and enact the police state and trample on our bill of rights.
dab0331 8 months ago
maybe u should watch and learn who really runs the country and learn how american business funded both sides of WW2. the very ppl Smedley Butler warned us about.
and learn how Hitler came into power.
pay special attention to 3:36
watch?v=7-TNEBGgIO8
dab0331 8 months ago
@dab0331
I have no idea WTF this has to do with anything, but okay.
PS. Hitler came to power because Neville Chamberlain was a pussy just like you and was affraid to look evil in the face instead of stabbing him in the neck with a pencil.
karozans 8 months ago
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@karozans "PS. Hitler came to power because Neville Chamberlain was a pussy just like you and was affraid to look evil in the face instead of stabbing him in the neck with a pencil."
coming from a guy who's never been in a war...
lol.. nope try again.
dab0331 8 months ago
@dab0331 american business or american businesses. the conspiracy theorists will draw lines where there aren't any via historical bias. Check out michael shermer's work on conspiracy theories in the believing brain
kelbykross1 3 months ago
@kelbykross1 what the hell you talking about drawing lines in what?? an example would be nice
dab0331 3 months ago
@dab0331 that the bush administration planned or intentionally allowed the hijackers to do their work on 9-11, based on intel that an attack was eminent, or the attack on pearl harbor.
The intelligence being fed to the president and the DOD on specific attacks are so vast, that they can't respond to every threat, and when something happens, some zeitgeist watcher says, 'hey! they knew it and didn't do anything about it! they are pushing their own agenda for WORLD DOMINATION!!'
kelbykross1 3 months ago
@kelbykross1 so vast my ass. like the underwear bomber who was able to get on a plane wihtout a passport and was escorted on the plane by a man in a fine suit claiming to work with the feds.
and yes pearl harbor was allowed as well.
dab0331 3 months ago
@dab0331 i don't remember the number, but they received intel reports on a daily basis on different attacks targeted everywhere from california to washington DC in WW2.
read michael shermer's The believing Brain
kelbykross1 3 months ago
@kelbykross1 maybe instead u should watch..
Naomi Wolfe's "The End of America"..
it's not a conspiracy theory. it simply shows the relations between 9/11 and the burning of the Reichstag. And the dangers of big government putting itself above our constitution.
dab0331 3 months ago
@kelbykross1 yah the receive intel reports on a daily basis but some things stick out more than others.
I think someone did let it happen.
that whole... Terrorist level bullshit of red, orange, green and what not always seemed awfully fishy to me. nothing but fear mongering.
israel has a much bigger and real terrorist threat than we do and they keep that shit on the down low.
dab0331 3 months ago
@dab0331 from my experience in iraq, i can say that everything sticks out, but it only has to be one thing that blows up.
I agree that any meter of 'imminent threat' is pretty much bull. I think people vacationing outside the US should learn about where they are going and what is going on with the world, but here we aren't going to be able to do anything personally.
kelbykross1 3 months ago
@kelbykross1 even if it wasn't planned like HItler's Reichstag event it is being used for the same purpose which is ot undermine the rule of law and our constitution and fear mongering to drag us into unlawful wars and destroy our civil liberties.
dab0331 3 months ago
@dab0331 i agree with you 100% with the way the events have been used. I agree that our liberties are in dire trouble when the gov't goes off the deep end trying to secure everything.
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@kelbykross1 there is no theory but there is a conspiracy... throughout history it has always only taken a small hand full of individuals in power to change the total direction of a country becuz they played the on the ignorance and prejudices of the people.
there's always ppl at the top conspiring for power.
dab0331 3 months ago
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"I believe that people like you are cowards and sissies and want everyone to love them so you appease them and sit idly by while evil happens."
funny becuz i just got back from afghanistan a year ago. try again.
maybe u should listen to what 2 time MEDAL OF HONOR winner SMEDLEY BUTLER had to say about war. maybe then you'll wake up.
dab0331 8 months ago
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"#1 He's a terrorist.
#2 He's a terrorist
#3 He's a terrorist."
yes.. i guess u also believe Hitler when he said that Poland attacked Germany first. are u really this fucking stupid. ppl dont blow themselves up for no reason dufus.
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dab0331 8 months ago
i doubt u even know teh 3 main reason why Osama attacked us on 9/11. do u?
if u think it's simply becuz we're the US then you're a fuckign tard.
dab0331 8 months ago
@dab0331 Let's see. The 3 main reasons why Osama attacked us on 911.
#1 He's a terrorist.
#2 He's a terrorist.
#3 He's a terrorist.
I'll even add a #4.
#4 He has a small penis.
karozans 8 months ago
@karozans but since you're too stupid I'll tell u.
1. We had military bases occupying thier holy land of Saudi Arabia
2. we put sanctions on and bombed iraq for 10 years.
3. U.S. support for and aid to Israel.
dab0331 8 months ago
@dab0331
1. Don't care.
2. Don't care.
3. Don't care.
You are a terrorist sympathizer and you should move to Iraq.
karozans 8 months ago
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"The reason why we supported these dictators is because of liberal democrat and Rino's in the WH.
I am Libertarian. I would have killed these dictators on day 1."
youre a fucking neo-con. u aint no libertarian.
fucking Donaldrumsfeld new what the fuck Saddam was doing. dont give me that partisan bullshit. the dems and republicans are 2 sides of the same coin.
dab0331 8 months ago
@karozans that's not even the point. sometimes criminal elements become impossible to trace down.
look at fucking mexico. they're so fucking cold hearted hardly anyone is willing to stand up to them out of fear of loosing their head and the government is desperately trying to control the situation to no avail.
to point is you're violating another nation's sovereignty.
imagine if China had bases in texas and new york and had ships stationed in the gulf of mexico.
dab0331 8 months ago
@karozans wake the fuck up and realize that the US is the real terrorist and supporter of dictators like Osama, Saddam, Mubarak, the Royal Saudi Family, and Gaddafi, etc.
watch?v=fy3KDYE5KQE
dab0331 8 months ago
@dab0331
"wake the fuck up and realize that the US is the real terrorist and supporter of dictators like Osama, Saddam, Mubarak, the Royal Saudi Family, and Gaddafi, etc."
Spoken like a true liberal sheep. You aren't Libertarian. You are a Liberal.
The reason why we supported these dictators is because of liberal democrat and Rino's in the WH.
I am Libertarian. I would have killed these dictators on day 1.
karozans 8 months ago
@karozans considering that hispanics are the largest minority in the US what makes u think the US government would be able to tract all cells if there was a war between mexico and spain??
we can't even keep weed of out the fucking country. give me a break.
dab0331 8 months ago
@dab0331
If the federal govrnment can hand out 50 million welfare checks a year, we shouldn't have any problem finding them.
You sound like a defeatest.
karozans 8 months ago
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"already told you. All is fair in war."
we're not at war with pakistan though u fucking tard. just like we weren't at war wiht afghanistan or saudi arabia when the hijackers bombed the WTC's
and no not eveyrthing is fair in war. there's such a thing as fucking war crimes dufus like My Lai.
dab0331 8 months ago
@karozans ""If the politicians would let the general do their job"
the generals are the ones who suggested we allie with the taliban & funded and trained bin laden dufus.
dab0331 8 months ago
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@dab0331
"the generals are the ones who suggested we allie with the taliban & funded and trained bin laden dufus."
Prove it.
karozans 8 months ago
@karozans " child being killed by a grown man cannot fight for his/her own freedom."
yeah like the ones who were killed by our drones in pakistan.
dab0331 8 months ago
@dab0331
I already told you. All is fair in war.
The number of children being killed is incredibly small.
You are a stupid liberal, you probably think that 1000 children a day are being killed.
karozans 8 months ago
@karozans and continuing with the example of somalia u can't blame them for hating the US and wanting to kill us becuz they're ignorant of what Aidid has done.
and that is precisely what the US is doing. the american ppl are ignorant of america's past but it doesn't stop al-qaeda wanting to exact revenge.
it doesn't justify 9/11 becuz it was an all civilian target but their anger is justified
imagine if the russians were bombing our homes & arresting our congressmen in the name of democracy.
dab0331 8 months ago
@dab0331
I don't care if a country hates me for doing the right thing and stopping a genocide. I am willing to make that sacrifice. If you want other countries to love you so much, then get down on your knees and bow to them. I won't.
If the politicians would let the general do their job. Al-Qaeda and the Taliban would have been decimated in the first month of battle.
If you think 911 was justified then you are a psychopath.
I would love to see Russia bomb DC.
karozans 8 months ago
@karozans " would love to see Russia bomb DC."
hmmm bombing dc good 9/11 bad. o.0
you're just hilarious!
dab0331 8 months ago
@karozans whatever we do whether it is going in to interfere and accidently killing a lot of people america will get the blame.
and vis versa if we stand by and do nothing we get the blame.
I'd hate to say it but ppl gotta fight their own battles and win their own freedom.
some of the very jews we helped in WW2 are so fucking ignorant that they've come here and want to take away our 2nd amendment rights even after what had happened to them.
u think they would learn from history.
dab0331 8 months ago
@dab0331
Again. If you don't have the backbone to do the right thing, then get out of the way and let the real men handle the situation.
If I have to kill 1 innocent person on accident to save 10 innocent people, then I will take on the consequences of my actions.
My conscience will be clear because I know that I chose right over wrong.
Standing idly by is wrong.
A child being killed by a grown man cannot fight for his/her own freedom.
The Jews did learn from history...
karozans 8 months ago
@karozans remember ron isn't saying that genocide is good. he's saying it's up to the people of that country to do somehting about it.
dragging us into their war only makes us more enemies & ends up in even more innocent ppl dying, and is hyporcritical considering our history.
dab0331 8 months ago
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@dab0331
I never said that Ron said that genocide was good. I said he was wrong about not stopping other people who are comitting genocide.
"dragging us into their war only makes us more enemies & ends up in even more innocent ppl dying, and is hyporcritical considering our history."
Again this is a consequnce I am willing to pay for doing the right thing.
You are a coward and you are affraid.
karozans 8 months ago
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@karozans "If you think 911 was justified then you are a psychopath."
i didn't say it was justified. but neither was the bombing of nagasaki and hiroshima.
dab0331 8 months ago
@dab0331
...that is why Israel has one of the most powerful militaries in the world.
karozans 8 months ago
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dab0331 8 months ago
@karozans americans are VERY hypocritical.
imagine if the US was allies with spain and they were in a war with mexico.
but even though we're allies spain decides to use drones and bomb houston and dallas, texas becuz of mexican-american sympathizers of mexico are sneaking into mexico from america & help the mexican fight the spanish.
we wouldn't stand by as a supposed allie bombed our cities but it's PRECISELY what we're doing to pakistan and a lot of innocent families are killed.
dab0331 8 months ago
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lets all vote for ron paul because he'll bring real hope and change.... and it'll get us back the old white guy puppet... he still believes the gov had NOTHING to do w/ 911, it was 19 cavemen that learn how to fly a 500mph plane into a target barely wider than it's own wings, whatev, another cleaver puppet
wesnutz81 2 years ago
q: "If Canada invades Montana?"
a: "Montana probably could take care of it, but we probably would help them out from Washington"
Is he mocking Canada? :b
grodzix 2 years ago 4
Yo MONTANA!
RESPECT.
dreamcore 2 years ago
@grodzix i'm not sure, but montana has a lot of militias so his probally right, straight out gurilla warfare
sprax3 2 years ago
nah, we Canadian's don't take offense, we are proud of being a peaceful nation.
LVonMises 2 years ago 6
Im falling deeper and deeper in love with ron paul <3 <3 <3
: )
seniordiscount 2 years ago 32
I love the professional sarcasm Stossel has.
residentzombie 2 years ago 5
Actually if you looked it up its the atomic bombing of japan bombings as in plural im not trying to point out that you didnt know about the bombings i was trying to point out that you said ounce your calling it the atomic bombing of japan its actually bombings hence why I said twice. Now it doesnt argue the point made on the comment of the destructive power of the worlds arsenal I agree with your point it doesnt matter how much we have 1 launch is enough to send the world to hell.
iggsta3o5 2 years ago
the word "bombing" actually does refer to plural bombing. the "bombing" in vietnam was carpet bombing....many, many bombs.
this bit of equivocation makes you sound silly and you actually are wrong on the point you attempt.
fail.
gopjigga 2 years ago
just because the location and time period are the same does not mean that it would be one instance. It was two different incances in different locations of the same country a few days apart rather than te same day. Hence why it was twice in history. Remember the Truman had intended to drop the bomb only ounce but because lack of response from the government (mainly due to a betrayal by fanatic generals) the second bomb was dropped. hence two different instance during the same period in history
iggsta3o5 2 years ago
Empire? The very definition means that it would be ruled by the elite. For a country to be ruled by the people the people must first be educated on the nature of liberty and how it is achieved and maintained. Educated people do not want an empire as they realize that this is antithetical to liberty.
seanettlesoup 2 years ago
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Ron Paul is an old fart. he will never become a leader. he would honestly make America look worst then when both bush's were in charge.
ObamamustnukeFoxnews 2 years ago
What? Someone who posits insults with arguments? What a goddamn surprise.
If you're an idiot, do everyone--and yourself--a favor by staying away from political topics. Thanks.
mwtillotson 2 years ago
here's my evidence you loser. if no one is policing the world then there will be chaos. if you think i'm wrong look what happen in WW2. no one cared what the nazi were until it was too late and hitler killed 6 million people. i'm not saying USa should only be the world police i'm saying that they should be involve just like others countries like Britain, china, russia etc. and Ron paul doesn't want that because he doesn't know what's good for this world or his country.
ObamamustnukeFoxnews 2 years ago
I love your immense analysis on world problems: "World War 2 happened because no one was policing the world." Yep, that's what caused it.
There may be instances where we need to get involved with other countries, yes: it may be necessary to become involved with Middle-Eastern theocratic governments getting nuclear arms.
But to dismiss everything he says due to one position to disagree with, calling him an "old fart," makes you look like an idiot. Next time, formulate thoughts, not insults...
mwtillotson 2 years ago 2
If we can take care of our own people how the fuck are we going to do all these wonderful things in other countries!?!?! STFU and get your head out your liberal ass.
laetrille 2 years ago
WWll began the day Hitler invaded Poland in 39.There was little justification for war before that(Sudetenland was majority German & welcomed Hitler).The Allied nations acted appropriately. And they beat Hitler
.There's no evidence that any lives could have been saved by following any other course of action.
If you don't believe me,look it up at Wikipedia & shut your stupid arrogant mouth when you don't know what you're talking about.
You're just making a fool of yourself on this thread.
ggmorvaj 2 years ago
Ron Paul is a old fart, he is old, but you sir are a dumb fuck.
laetrille 2 years ago
"If Montana invaded Canada?"
"Montana could probably handle it"
LOL
98nafets 2 years ago
Hell yeah Montana go kick some ass lol
LetFreedomRing22 2 years ago
Yeah, Montana would whup Canada's ass. lol.
EGarrett01 2 years ago