The sin of Sodom and Gomorrah was Treating Foreigners with contempt/raping foreigners. In those days, women were property, so offering virgin daughters instead was the prerogative of Lot. It's different these days, thank God. But, it had nothing to do with gay sex. There is a blog called Canyon Walker Connections run by a lady named Kathy (google it!) which picks apart the offending verses and disclaims all the hurtful attacks on the GLBT community. if you're in doubt, give it a read.
Why even use the bible at all to address any issue if you're gay? Those that believe in it will ALWAYS bring up the parts that call gays "abominations" and those that are gay will of course fight it to the end. What is the point? The bible is not going to make you stop being gay no matter what right? Nor will it stop people that discriminate against gays from doing it. One thing that gays and bible thumpers have in common is the fact that NEITHER are going anywhere. Keep it moving.
Religion is an insult to human dignity. With or without it, you’d have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, it takes religion.
Parts of the Bible (new testament) are inspiring but much of the Bible is absolute nonsense. It's so sad that so many people take it literally instead of reading between the lines for the moral of the story, in this case that inhospitality is wrong. Thanks for this.
They were going to RAPE the angels. That's the disturbing part. I mean, if they'd been female angels? God's cool with that according to the fundies. But gay rape? Oh hell no. Hell, not even gay rape. It wasn't the attempted rape that was wrong. It was homosexuality. It takes a deranged person to read that story and get 'gay sex is wrong' out of it.
Also, the gender of the mob is never specified. It is just assumed they were mostly men.
ugh... you hit this one on the head my friend. as a woman, i was horrified at these stories in the oh so infaliable bible (give me a break!) i'm not an atheist, but i sure like to think i use my own god given mind to think 'hey, this crap was written by men!' problem solved moving on.
hahaha funny shit. i'd like to point out one thing that usually get all my Christian friends mad.... the Bible was made my MAN. god didn't make the bible and neither did Jesus. War has been made in gods name.....but doesn't the bible say "Treat those like you should be treated " (or thou or w/e)
@nhahtrebor91 Thats exactly what I say too. It makes me laugh when I hear people saying 'god hate fags'. How do they know? Nobody has ever spoken to him to find out his opinion and he didn't write it in the bible either. Corrupt man did.
@misswelshterrier I feel that your comment defeats the purpose of his point. Be is better to make an antisemitic comment to validate the hypocrisy of the passage he is citing?
@maxtexture To point out that the old testament is the bible the jewish people adhere to is not "antisemitic". Stop perpetuating such ignorance, please.
@LovesAllOfYou I feel your comment reflects your own issues with antisemitism. Jewish should be capitalized, #1.
# 2, The notion that my interpretation of someone's direct comment suggesting 'the Old Testament is strictly for Jews' need response from you that I may be 'perpetuating such ignorance' is ignorance unto itself.
I made my comment based upon my own perception, and I never accused anyone of 'antisemitism'.
I think your defensiveness reflects the ignorance that exists today.
@maxtexture by me stating that the old testatament is from the Jews, that is some how anti-semetic - grow up you imbecile, sit down and read the bible then you might just know something.
@misswelshterrier I wasn't suggesting that the Old Testament wasn't the Bible that Jewish people profess. The fact that you need resort to name calling and suggesting I don't know anything is your ignorance rearing its very ugly head-hideous, even. It's apparent that you find the need to stereotype and label people, too. Own your own prejudice; 'then you might just know something' about yourself; unless of course you're afraid to.
@misswelshterrier I wasn't suggesting that the Old Testament wasn't the Bible that Jewish people profess. The fact that you need resort to name calling and suggesting I don't know anything is your ignorance rearing its very ugly head-hideous, even. It's apparent that you find the need to stereotype and label people, too. Own your own prejudice; 'then you might just know something' about yourself; unless of course you're afraid to.
@maxtexture Look up what racist means in the dictionary you idiot, you called my channel racist because its about muslims then call me racist, so yes you do think that muslims are a race you moron, how stupid do you feel now??? Now go and play in the traffic little boy.
@rgmztxy Just sod off, if you'd read my original comment I wasn't discrimating anyone or being racist, haven't you twats got anything better to do than going on about being Wayist all the time??? Your like a broken record, and really I couldn't careless what you think.
Yeah, but you have things like "piss on muslims" in your profile. With all due respect when folks see something like that they are prone to react.
Unless you mean you have some kind of Muslim golden shower fetish where you squat in their face and force them to drink your urine. In which case I think that's odd but hey, different strokes for different folks.
You mean 'you're' not 'your', by the way. You also only needed one 'too' in your sentence. Preferably you should capitalize the first letter of every sentence and add a punctuation mark at the end. Hey, if I am gonna be accused of trolling I might as well pull out all the stops.
rgmztxy handled himself with an intelligent question and assessment of her short coming. You used a strawman argument and suggested she was a Nazi. Oh, pardon. I am sorry, am I having a 'hard time reading'? I think I can read inbetween the lines quite fine when I hear something like 'if the Swastika fits'.
Now if you are gathering the idea that she is racist outside of the fact that she doesn't like Muslims then you've done a poor job presenting yourself.
Good argument, but just to be clear do you believe it isn't okay to discriminate at all?
For instance, Maxtexture is a Hillary Clinton supporter. This makes him a contemptible douchebag to me. I am discriminating against him based on his candidate of choice. I see nothing wrong with this and will likely continue.
@Silvsilvchan You shouldn't "dicriminate" against anyone. You're 26 years old; so I would think someone of that age would understand that concept. Don't be such a hater.
But you called the poster 'racist' for disliking Muslims. Now, before you embarrass yourself you want to tell me you meant 'prejudice' because racist means you dislike people based on, you know, race.
There's nothing wrong with my reading comprehension, there is something wrong with your use of words. I would think a man of your age and hypothetical wisdom would have picked up on something like that before going out of his way to admonish a young whippersnapper like me.
It's not just christianity. In moslem countries gays are executed. Homosexuality is a crime to them. Real christians don't feel gays should die. There are fanatics in all faiths. I feel fanatics love to judge everyone no matter the sin because they can't deal with their own sin. If you check out a fanatics personal life they are usually the worst. Jim Jones was a heroin addict and had sex with women in his church. Al quida you can marry 12 year olds, sell opium, and abuse women.
@lokigotya68 "Real Christians"? Thats a no true scottsman fallacy I smell. The Bible clearly states that men who lie with other men should be put to death, its commanded.
@kiwisunshine5233 Yeah the old testament also says women menstrating are unclean, disobedient children are to be taken to the city gates and be stoned to death, adulterator should be stoned. Jesus said he who has No sin cast the first stone. Who are we to judge but christ alone. Loki is a norseman not a scottsman.
Is it possible to believe in God but not believe and even dispise religion and its books of fairytales?Is it not possible that God created nature and science and allows it to take its own course?
@kurtu5 I'm black and I'm from the south (GA) and i'm gonna give you my opinion from what I see.It is true that homosexuality is frowned upon in the black community it has something to do with the way alot blacks are rasied we are rasied that it is an abomination and if you are gay you're going to hell.Not all blacks are like this but there are alot of blacks that feel this way.I am a straight black male and have no problem with gays I know gay blacks but people look down on them mainly the men.
@willdesha Those black men who look down on blacks...are they the same ones who father children with lots of women and knock them around if they step out of line? Are the the ones who join gangs and hang around making ridiculous hand signals and wearing regalia while they wait for the next fight to come along. Those black men?
Their opinion of gay men is about as interesting or relevant as their opinion of Proust...
@CobinRain LOL Sometimesit is those types of blacks and then sometimes its some of the more educated ones but then again I live in the south I think outside of the south blacks are more tolerant or at least I hear.Also by men I meant black gay men are looked down upon in the black community because they catch hell for being gay but I understand what you mean in your comment.
@CobinRain The funny thing is that here in GA we have one of the highest black gay populations in the country if not the highest and its a shame that people are still ignorant but hopefully the future generations will be different.I was one of those blacks rasied like that but I was lucky enough to have a very diverse group of friends who taught me to accept other people and see through the BS.
@willdesha Wild, Iam sure that you are right to be optimistic for an increasingly tolerant world. At present the main barrier to tolerance is religiousity--the superstitions and cruelties of the bad old days would blow away with ease if they didnt seem to "come from God". Good comments
Murdering innocents, raping children, and racism in the bible should be 3 contributing factors that avert people's attention away from the fictional work of the ancient kikes.
I've heard that the sin of sodom wasn't homosexuality so much as it was being inhospitable or something. I think there is a case for that, since it doesn't clearly say they destroyed it because of the homosexual thing. Regardless of them being straight or gay, they sound like a bunch of assholes. I tried to make a gay marriage argument from a corinthians passage just for fun. I want to start a denomination so i can spin my own funny little interpretations of the bible. I'm pretty good at it.
@quirkjerks he's not using the 6000 year old document to make an opposing argument. he's using it to explain why these people want to hang gays. in other words, their reasons for doing it are.... "shallow," if that's the appropriate word here.
@quirkjerks That same '6000+ year old' document (the bible) is the premise for the reasons that homosexuality is outlawed in Rwanda, so it's an appropriate point, don't you think?
@Temuldjin "The daughters might not [have] been virgins since they were married."
From what I have read, Lot claims that his daughters had "not known man" and offered them to some men who wanted to rape some angels staying with Lot. The daughters later marry some of these men ( I guess) but they are killed with everyone else (except Lot & daughters) when "the LORD rained upon Sodom and upon Gomorrah brimstone and fire". So, when Lot claimed they were virgins, they probably were - in bible land.
@gotsissues the earth is not going anywere people are: ecclessiastes 1:4One generation passeth away, and another generation cometh: but the earth abideth for ever.
@TEEWEE01 Dude you spend 4 message for my every 1. I'm not responding to all that. Let's stick w/ the basics before you start assuming that we should all have power like Sampson. In beginning God created Heaven and Earth and Earth was w/o form. So you see? You're wrong that Heaven is Earth. They are two places. You don't even understand the basics. I don't have time to go scripture-to-scripture w/you especially when u don't have basic knowledge. So how is Earth actually Heaven now? lol
Lot was not saved because he was a "good man" he was saved in spite of himself just as no men are "good men" and all who trust in christ are saved in spite of themselves. the story of sodom and gamora wasn't just about buttsex. read the story again. the whole town was there. men, women, fathers, sons, daughters... all of them to rape these two guys. thats not wicked?
that doesn't absolve Lot or his daughters either. God saved Lot because he's good and can even use broken vessels for his purpose
After Lot offers his "virgin daughters", he tells his sons in laws to escape with him. The story says "they thought Lot was joking."
So :
#1 - Lot was also a liar - his daughters weren't virgins.
#2 - Lot's son in laws were good enough to be saved, but since they didn't believe Lot (would you believe a guy that just lied while offering your wife up for a gang rape?) God kills them.
Dont Strain too Much Protean. The Bible was right. Butsecks in a society of no running water, and little to no hygiene was potentialy a disaster, that people translated as curse.We in Ancient Greece,used to have a bath every day at that time, so buttsecks was accepted and protected by one of the many Gods. So the Bible was right, emphasis on WAS.Daughter Gangbang was safer than buttsecks. The question is, since today buttsecks is safe, why do people have to follow a 2000 year old lifestyle book?
The Gays are recruiting? I didn't know they had an army. The Pink Front is attacking, yeeaahh!! Gangbang is condoned by the Old Testament? At last that OT is starting to make sense. Took them long enough though!
(Sorry for not being serious today, but religious fundamentalists always bring out the worst in me)
this is what this boils down to in sodom and gamorah just think of it as men who were lawless raping other men in this government what would you do to someone who was sexually violating another person? Do you just let them run around violating somone who doesnt concent? Im sure not even a gay man wants to be violated or raped some laws need to be upheld.
@TEEWEE01 Read Deuteronomy. God is a-ok with rape - men raping unmarried girls that is. Rapists just have to pay the victim's father some silver if they get caught, and marry their victim.
Jesus is a-ok with rape. Just as long as only girls are being raped.
@TheHigherVoltage what scripture is that because the deuteronomy i know says that if a man rapes a woman he is put to death. can i get that scripture?
There's a bit of a theme going on in Genesis. The more righteous a man the more prone he is to getting blind drunk. Old Noah liked getting drunk and wandering around his tent naked.
Lesbians don't need to have butt sex so are they exempt? Ok ok ok look lets be honest here people. What is a gangbang without butt sex? You and I both know where there is a gang bang there is more than likely to be butt sex. 9 out of 10 gang bangs usually result in some sort of butt sex. I'm looking at a gang bang right now and let me tell you there is definitely butt sex involved. So if you like gang bangs that means you like butt sex am I right?.... Wait what was this video about?
@bugninja80 oh the topic is about bible versus that talk about using sex as a weapon and basically raping another person to force your power over them, not really homosexuality. Does that help?
@TEEWEE01 Yes it does thanks sometimes I get lost in conversations about butt sex. Anyway I would just like to add Uganda is being pretty fucked up right here.
@bugninja80 why is that such a suprise most of these so called third world countries look to The United States as to how to gain power and run a country and see all the bullshit politics and think thats how you run a country so much for democracy if you dont fit in the want list of who should be on the list, We in America believe in democracy as long as your a white supremist who owns land has a trophy wife hate muslims and gay people than thats what democracy is in this country.
@TEEWEE01 In this case though I don't think it's about America as much it is about the religious aspect of it. When people are in situations of despair then tend to take to religious dogma quite fanatically. We don't execute gays in America and although the gay culture is frowned upon in some areas of the US there is not a strong promotion of death to gays. You will be more fanatical about kiling gays if you think there is an invisible being watching you that approves of your actions.
@bugninja80 well not unlike the laws and sublaws and statutes of america the bible has laws and sub laws and laws that break those laws and laws that fufill those laws. Just wondering if you try to live by the laws of the land and take them to heart? If yes then people who fallow the bible do the same. The laws of this land only allow certain law inforcers to put people to death on death row are you for that? I know that some people take the bible and other religious books fanatically.
@bugninja80 add too~ i read the bible but know how to take scripture and place it into correct context. Like alot of polititians who make law over this nation they are also fanatical and some of them are ignorant athiests. There are ignorant, polititians, religious leaders, Athiests and such.
@bugninja80 To just label someone as stupid or ignorant just because they fallow some form of bible or law from the koran doesnt mean its the truth. Not all athiest know what they are talking about by way of truth just like not all people who read the bible or koran.
@TEEWEE01 I didn't say that that anyone was stuipd for believing in the Bible. I said people in situations of despair can lead to fanaticism, when combined with religion it causes to obey the dogma of a however many thousands of years old thought that is outdated. It will be taken literally when people are in a situation such as Uganda because a ticket is a relief of everyday life from which few can manage to escape.
@bugninja80 I think that being gay or being anti gay in Uganda is the least of their worries along with other countries over the globe our own in the United States included, rape of little girls to rid someone of aids and mutilation bigger problem than whos gay or not. Rape should be the key word here in this video that proteanview is speaking about .
@TrickSports Oh, you mean apart from the offers of gang-rape, violent Black-magic blindness attacks, and incest to make babies, there are plot-points which are even MORE significant? Hahahahahaha.
@antisubar You gays have it easy. If your quota is low, you just pick up a pizza at the pizzeria, detour to a 24-hour gay-bar with slurp-ramps and glory-holes, do something gay, and then drive home and the pizza is still warm. Straights are on a slower time-scale. To "score" you have to put out an ad in Craigslist, take her out to dinner and a movie, come back to your place, pore for hours on the Kama Sutra to negotiate a position, and your pizza is cold and festering...
Thank you for speaking out. I intend to go to Uganda to find a husband the moment gay marriage is legal in California. We need to start an underground railroad for them to escape if need be.
proteanview has figured out that idiot amerikans can't keep their attention on anything past about 2 minutes. keep it short, keep it simple minded, keep preaching to the choir. it's what indolent amerika wants.
I spent a couple of years in Uganda and it is true that the American evangelicals are out in force there and in Kenya and even when I was there this was feeding into witch hunting and a widespread belief that witches were real, and existed(and should be killed) It's all in the bible right?
To add to the poisonous mixture, there are actually a lot of muslims there dating back to the 19th century Arab incursions.
Actually they also murdered Lot's daughter and cut her up into tiny pieces. It wasn't so much that he was ok with giving up his daughter as he didn't want them to bust into the house and kill them all. Hospitality was a big deal back then.
As for the bible, you can find all kinds of nonsensical stuff, nufflan said.
But lets talk anti gay and Uganda.
I do not or ever will support gay hangings or even persecution of gays, but I have been a vocal opponent of gay rights or even any right based on positive rights.
But as zionism is a intrest lobby of racial intrest, isn't the gay lobby a special intrest in the halls of power, corrupt and self serving as any other lobby is and do we really wan't that ?
In other words isn't there a better model for social justice that is all inclusive to it's citizenry and constituent will than these groups that have a pervasive view of their own causes ?
ASIDE from the Sodom story, the Bible does call homosexuality ABOMINATION bro. So, if you're gonna be a REAL CHRISTIAN, then you gotta admit it's a sin. I don't think they should hang em but I applaud Uganda for not celebrating homosexuality like USA does. We lost our Christian way really.
@Fighting31406 Bible says so bro. If you're gonna call yourself a Christian, you gotta admit this. It's an abomination. Not my judging. Straight from the Good Book.
@Fighting31406 Same reason lying is wrong. Neither will necessarily hurt someone but it's immoral based on God's law. Who am I to question what the creator lays out?
@igotsissues Of course a sheep like you would say "who am i to question what the creator lays out?" Well who are you to question what the mafia boss does to you?
@crackerkiller89 that doesnt even make sense, even jesus said be as little children meaning kids always ask why is this because of this why is that because of that, children question everything to make sure things add up.
The sin of Sodom and Gomorrah was Treating Foreigners with contempt/raping foreigners. In those days, women were property, so offering virgin daughters instead was the prerogative of Lot. It's different these days, thank God. But, it had nothing to do with gay sex. There is a blog called Canyon Walker Connections run by a lady named Kathy (google it!) which picks apart the offending verses and disclaims all the hurtful attacks on the GLBT community. if you're in doubt, give it a read.
creativemachine 1 month ago
Why even use the bible at all to address any issue if you're gay? Those that believe in it will ALWAYS bring up the parts that call gays "abominations" and those that are gay will of course fight it to the end. What is the point? The bible is not going to make you stop being gay no matter what right? Nor will it stop people that discriminate against gays from doing it. One thing that gays and bible thumpers have in common is the fact that NEITHER are going anywhere. Keep it moving.
lookahere 1 year ago
Religion is an insult to human dignity. With or without it, you’d have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, it takes religion.
Steven Weinberg
GRareHR 1 year ago
Parts of the Bible (new testament) are inspiring but much of the Bible is absolute nonsense. It's so sad that so many people take it literally instead of reading between the lines for the moral of the story, in this case that inhospitality is wrong. Thanks for this.
jamesclee2 1 year ago
LOL
"Tapping some 'prime angel ass'!"
Love it!
maxtexture 1 year ago
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MattHughes2011 1 year ago
Lets see, your point is gang rape is better than homosexuality. Well since homosexuality is an abomination I'd say you are right.
northpal2 1 year ago
@northpal2 What a fool you are.
You're the abomination.
maxtexture 1 year ago
@maxtexture your slip is showing
northpal2 1 year ago
@northpal2 *yawn*
They say "Ignorance is Bliss"; you must be deliriously happy.
maxtexture 1 year ago
@maxtexture either that or liberalism is bliss. ok sweetie
northpal2 1 year ago
Conflict caused by conflict... likely caused by conflict. Where did it begin and why?
MazorKuziaki 1 year ago
Wow. And I thought America was stupid.
borstalboy1981 1 year ago
what about an atheist person who force him self on someone who kept on saying NO???
THEBADASSOROMO 1 year ago
It must have been a miraculous hard on, praise the LAWDAA
prunt23 1 year ago
"Simply requesting" WHAT THE HELL?
They were going to RAPE the angels. That's the disturbing part. I mean, if they'd been female angels? God's cool with that according to the fundies. But gay rape? Oh hell no. Hell, not even gay rape. It wasn't the attempted rape that was wrong. It was homosexuality. It takes a deranged person to read that story and get 'gay sex is wrong' out of it.
Also, the gender of the mob is never specified. It is just assumed they were mostly men.
Silvsilvchan 1 year ago
Why did a gay rape a policeman in Brisbane recently?
BinaryBunyip 1 year ago
ugh... you hit this one on the head my friend. as a woman, i was horrified at these stories in the oh so infaliable bible (give me a break!) i'm not an atheist, but i sure like to think i use my own god given mind to think 'hey, this crap was written by men!' problem solved moving on.
gortaithe 1 year ago
hahaha funny shit. i'd like to point out one thing that usually get all my Christian friends mad.... the Bible was made my MAN. god didn't make the bible and neither did Jesus. War has been made in gods name.....but doesn't the bible say "Treat those like you should be treated " (or thou or w/e)
nhahtrebor91 1 year ago
@nhahtrebor91 Thats exactly what I say too. It makes me laugh when I hear people saying 'god hate fags'. How do they know? Nobody has ever spoken to him to find out his opinion and he didn't write it in the bible either. Corrupt man did.
global001 1 year ago
At last people understand. I hope that now that we are in agreement we can all gangbang in peace, as god has always wanted us to.
unabomberman 1 year ago
Stick with the New Testament, the old testament is the Jewish bible.
misswelshterrier 1 year ago
@misswelshterrier I feel that your comment defeats the purpose of his point. Be is better to make an antisemitic comment to validate the hypocrisy of the passage he is citing?
maxtexture 1 year ago
@maxtexture To point out that the old testament is the bible the jewish people adhere to is not "antisemitic". Stop perpetuating such ignorance, please.
LovesAllOfYou 1 year ago
@LovesAllOfYou I feel your comment reflects your own issues with antisemitism. Jewish should be capitalized, #1.
# 2, The notion that my interpretation of someone's direct comment suggesting 'the Old Testament is strictly for Jews' need response from you that I may be 'perpetuating such ignorance' is ignorance unto itself.
I made my comment based upon my own perception, and I never accused anyone of 'antisemitism'.
I think your defensiveness reflects the ignorance that exists today.
maxtexture 1 year ago
@maxtexture by me stating that the old testatament is from the Jews, that is some how anti-semetic - grow up you imbecile, sit down and read the bible then you might just know something.
misswelshterrier 1 year ago
@misswelshterrier I wasn't suggesting that the Old Testament wasn't the Bible that Jewish people profess. The fact that you need resort to name calling and suggesting I don't know anything is your ignorance rearing its very ugly head-hideous, even. It's apparent that you find the need to stereotype and label people, too. Own your own prejudice; 'then you might just know something' about yourself; unless of course you're afraid to.
maxtexture 1 year ago
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@misswelshterrier I wasn't suggesting that the Old Testament wasn't the Bible that Jewish people profess. The fact that you need resort to name calling and suggesting I don't know anything is your ignorance rearing its very ugly head-hideous, even. It's apparent that you find the need to stereotype and label people, too. Own your own prejudice; 'then you might just know something' about yourself; unless of course you're afraid to.
maxtexture 1 year ago
@misswelshterrier And according to your home page, your occupation is you 'piss on Muslims'?! You totally proved me right. ROFL
Thanks for teaching me that you, too, are a racist bigot.
maxtexture 1 year ago
@maxtexture Glad you like my channel its meant to be a laugh thats all, but again you've shown what an imbecile you are muslims/islam is not a race.
misswelshterrier 1 year ago
@misswelshterrier Ha! I never said it was a race, fool. But, just because it's not a race doesn't change the fact that you're a racist bigot.
If the swastika fits...
maxtexture 1 year ago
@maxtexture Look up what racist means in the dictionary you idiot, you called my channel racist because its about muslims then call me racist, so yes you do think that muslims are a race you moron, how stupid do you feel now??? Now go and play in the traffic little boy.
misswelshterrier 1 year ago
@misswelshterrier so it's ok to discriminate against someone as long as it doesn't involve their race is what you're saying?
rgmztxy 1 year ago
@rgmztxy Just sod off, if you'd read my original comment I wasn't discrimating anyone or being racist, haven't you twats got anything better to do than going on about being Wayist all the time??? Your like a broken record, and really I couldn't careless what you think.
misswelshterrier 1 year ago
@misswelshterrier
Yeah, but you have things like "piss on muslims" in your profile. With all due respect when folks see something like that they are prone to react.
Unless you mean you have some kind of Muslim golden shower fetish where you squat in their face and force them to drink your urine. In which case I think that's odd but hey, different strokes for different folks.
Silvsilvchan 1 year ago
@Silvsilvchan your reported too for harrassement too, now sod off troll
misswelshterrier 1 year ago
So I can put that down as a yes?
You mean 'you're' not 'your', by the way. You also only needed one 'too' in your sentence. Preferably you should capitalize the first letter of every sentence and add a punctuation mark at the end. Hey, if I am gonna be accused of trolling I might as well pull out all the stops.
I fucked your mum last night.
Silvsilvchan 1 year ago
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@Silvsilvchan *Sigh* Just stop talking. Your ludicrous assumptions & inane rambling are exasperating.
Get some more education & experience behind you, eventually, you might begin to develop some sense of wisdom, or understand what it means
maxtexture 1 year ago
@rgmztxy Thank you! Exactly what I was saying.
maxtexture 1 year ago
rgmztxy handled himself with an intelligent question and assessment of her short coming. You used a strawman argument and suggested she was a Nazi. Oh, pardon. I am sorry, am I having a 'hard time reading'? I think I can read inbetween the lines quite fine when I hear something like 'if the Swastika fits'.
Now if you are gathering the idea that she is racist outside of the fact that she doesn't like Muslims then you've done a poor job presenting yourself.
Silvsilvchan 1 year ago
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maxtexture 1 year ago
Good argument, but just to be clear do you believe it isn't okay to discriminate at all?
For instance, Maxtexture is a Hillary Clinton supporter. This makes him a contemptible douchebag to me. I am discriminating against him based on his candidate of choice. I see nothing wrong with this and will likely continue.
Silvsilvchan 1 year ago
@Silvsilvchan You shouldn't "dicriminate" against anyone. You're 26 years old; so I would think someone of that age would understand that concept. Don't be such a hater.
maxtexture 1 year ago
@misswelshterrier Me thinks you doth protest too much.
You're a bigot, missy, face it.
maxtexture 1 year ago
@maxtexture Reported again for harrassment.
misswelshterrier 1 year ago
@misswelshterrier Really? I've reported you to the authorities for not taking your court-ordered medication.
maxtexture 1 year ago
@maxtexture
Being Muslim has anything to do with a person's race? You learn something new every day.
Silvsilvchan 1 year ago
@Silvsilvchan Because you're having a hard time reading; I never said Muslims were a race, kid. Completely read a post before you embarrass yourself.
maxtexture 1 year ago
But you called the poster 'racist' for disliking Muslims. Now, before you embarrass yourself you want to tell me you meant 'prejudice' because racist means you dislike people based on, you know, race.
There's nothing wrong with my reading comprehension, there is something wrong with your use of words. I would think a man of your age and hypothetical wisdom would have picked up on something like that before going out of his way to admonish a young whippersnapper like me.
Silvsilvchan 1 year ago
@maxtexture Thats my dog, handsome beast isn't he?
misswelshterrier 1 year ago
What year are we living in again?!?! Man. So sad.
Elaina43 1 year ago
@Elaina43 Amen... oh wait XD
naughtypagan72 1 year ago
@naughtypagan72 8‹D
Elaina43 1 year ago
sorry to take away from the seriousness of this topic.....but you don't know what a "top" gay is?.....lol
rednecktrucker1969 1 year ago
It's not just christianity. In moslem countries gays are executed. Homosexuality is a crime to them. Real christians don't feel gays should die. There are fanatics in all faiths. I feel fanatics love to judge everyone no matter the sin because they can't deal with their own sin. If you check out a fanatics personal life they are usually the worst. Jim Jones was a heroin addict and had sex with women in his church. Al quida you can marry 12 year olds, sell opium, and abuse women.
lokigotya68 1 year ago
@lokigotya68 "Real Christians"? Thats a no true scottsman fallacy I smell. The Bible clearly states that men who lie with other men should be put to death, its commanded.
kiwisunshine5233 1 year ago
@kiwisunshine5233 Yeah the old testament also says women menstrating are unclean, disobedient children are to be taken to the city gates and be stoned to death, adulterator should be stoned. Jesus said he who has No sin cast the first stone. Who are we to judge but christ alone. Loki is a norseman not a scottsman.
lokigotya68 1 year ago
So Africa's still the same pile of shit it's always been?
Good to know.
Krauserowns 1 year ago
Is it possible to believe in God but not believe and even dispise religion and its books of fairytales?Is it not possible that God created nature and science and allows it to take its own course?
RealityHurts923 1 year ago
@GrudgyDiablo yeah the bible is fucked up .cause your to busy getting your ass fucked by this guy
KIMBOSLICE66666 1 year ago
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KIMBOSLICE66666 1 year ago
Ignorance is pathetic.
arodomus 1 year ago
FACK IGNORANCE!
NinJaMamasita 1 year ago
Ok, so what is the deal with Africa, The Caribbean, and general American Black culture?
Why all the gay hate? Is it the bible? Is it something else?
kurtu5 1 year ago
@kurtu5 I'm black and I'm from the south (GA) and i'm gonna give you my opinion from what I see.It is true that homosexuality is frowned upon in the black community it has something to do with the way alot blacks are rasied we are rasied that it is an abomination and if you are gay you're going to hell.Not all blacks are like this but there are alot of blacks that feel this way.I am a straight black male and have no problem with gays I know gay blacks but people look down on them mainly the men.
willdesha 1 year ago
@willdesha Those black men who look down on blacks...are they the same ones who father children with lots of women and knock them around if they step out of line? Are the the ones who join gangs and hang around making ridiculous hand signals and wearing regalia while they wait for the next fight to come along. Those black men?
Their opinion of gay men is about as interesting or relevant as their opinion of Proust...
CobinRain 1 year ago
@CobinRain LOL Sometimesit is those types of blacks and then sometimes its some of the more educated ones but then again I live in the south I think outside of the south blacks are more tolerant or at least I hear.Also by men I meant black gay men are looked down upon in the black community because they catch hell for being gay but I understand what you mean in your comment.
willdesha 1 year ago
@CobinRain The funny thing is that here in GA we have one of the highest black gay populations in the country if not the highest and its a shame that people are still ignorant but hopefully the future generations will be different.I was one of those blacks rasied like that but I was lucky enough to have a very diverse group of friends who taught me to accept other people and see through the BS.
willdesha 1 year ago
@willdesha Wild, Iam sure that you are right to be optimistic for an increasingly tolerant world. At present the main barrier to tolerance is religiousity--the superstitions and cruelties of the bad old days would blow away with ease if they didnt seem to "come from God". Good comments
CobinRain 1 year ago
@CobinRain People are so blinded by religion I agree 100% with that and thank you that was also a great comment.
willdesha 1 year ago
@kurtu5 Thats my honest opinion I hope that it answers your question.
willdesha 1 year ago
"Trolling"...lol funny. :P
raspberrymuffin 1 year ago
Hang the editors, why don´t they?
yassau 1 year ago
dead on. again. this is officially my favorite channel.
ummband 1 year ago
King David and some dude named Jonathan were Gay.
IHS7 1 year ago
Welcome to the wonderful world of Biblical literalism!
niriop 1 year ago
Murdering innocents, raping children, and racism in the bible should be 3 contributing factors that avert people's attention away from the fictional work of the ancient kikes.
Viktir666 1 year ago
the bible is a wonderful guide to living. unless you read it.
underweightHater 1 year ago 10
@underweightHater
I heard the Bible is the best way to make an atheist.
utuebmakeustupid 1 year ago 27
@utuebmakeustupid Actually reading the bible, not just select parts, has created many atheists, including myself.
macnutz 1 year ago
@underweightHater It is not the bible that worries me, but the interpretation of the scriptures...
angelcantera 7 months ago
I've heard that the sin of sodom wasn't homosexuality so much as it was being inhospitable or something. I think there is a case for that, since it doesn't clearly say they destroyed it because of the homosexual thing. Regardless of them being straight or gay, they sound like a bunch of assholes. I tried to make a gay marriage argument from a corinthians passage just for fun. I want to start a denomination so i can spin my own funny little interpretations of the bible. I'm pretty good at it.
VikingNinjitsu 1 year ago
Dude, you are off the chain. Excellent vid.
bilal3700 1 year ago
Chrisshun LoLgic for you! Thanks Protean!
Paxmax 1 year ago
PEDOBEAR ANGELS!
skcortex 1 year ago
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Obviously this is because they are black people.
trumasamune 1 year ago
I admit hanging is a fucked sentence for gayness, but to use a 6000 + year old document to make an opposing argument is rather shallow.
quirkjerks 1 year ago
@quirkjerks he's not using the 6000 year old document to make an opposing argument. he's using it to explain why these people want to hang gays. in other words, their reasons for doing it are.... "shallow," if that's the appropriate word here.
khemeticone 1 year ago
@quirkjerks That same '6000+ year old' document (the bible) is the premise for the reasons that homosexuality is outlawed in Rwanda, so it's an appropriate point, don't you think?
warmacre 1 year ago
They eat da poo poo!
Anon12356 1 year ago
@spaceinvader79 i dont have to work on shit because this is the interwebz
peterscoop 1 year ago
This is naive and a strawman. I expected a little better from you tbh
DisInfoWars 1 year ago
in da poo poo
joshuahardy95 1 year ago
The doughters might now be virgens sins they wore maried ;)
Temuldjin 1 year ago
@Temuldjin "The daughters might not [have] been virgins since they were married."
From what I have read, Lot claims that his daughters had "not known man" and offered them to some men who wanted to rape some angels staying with Lot. The daughters later marry some of these men ( I guess) but they are killed with everyone else (except Lot & daughters) when "the LORD rained upon Sodom and upon Gomorrah brimstone and fire". So, when Lot claimed they were virgins, they probably were - in bible land.
warmacre 1 year ago
Sodom's sin is very clearly described in Ezekiel 16:49 and it says nothing of homosexuality.
kyndra1966 1 year ago
You were OK when you discussed current events. When you start attacking people's faiths, you look stupid. You don't understand it. Its spiritual.
First thing, Lot offered his daughters to protect the DIVINE. It symbolic that they were virgins.
Nevermind, we are told not to waste wisdom on fools.
rubyspirit2 1 year ago
@rubyspirit2
Why does that make it immune from criticism?
TheGravitationist 1 year ago
sweet kill faggots awesome
peterscoop 1 year ago
@peterscoop What if there was a movement to kill straight people how would you feel
rast123456789 1 year ago
@rast123456789 there is a movement liek this actually, its called "lets accept faggots in our society"
peterscoop 1 year ago
@peterscoop well how do you feel about that?
rast123456789 1 year ago
the preacher man says,
"Sex is a filthy horrible, evil, dirty act, spawned by the devil himself, that you save for the one person you truly love."
HigherPlanes 1 year ago
We are having fun, aren't we. I blame Jesus. Jesus is Satan no doubt.
halfasheep 1 year ago
@halfasheep i am not a Christian, but i doubt Jesus would approve of most of what is being done in his name.
mimimetamorpho 1 year ago 14
@mimimetamorpho amen brother
fps0chris 1 year ago
Hey proteanview you are my #1 gay! no homo.
CriticalDissection 1 year ago
that's some funny shit man ! good stuff !
g1981c 1 year ago
I have often thought it interesting that while gays are rounded condemned
for being " the enemy of the family" there is no campaign against incest.
ask any psychologist, or minister and you will be told that incest is rampant
in society. It is the dirty secret that dare not be told. It is a part of our system.
Pilgrim812 1 year ago
A strange neck o the woods isn't it? There is no question in my mind that
the world suffers from a seriously flawed theology as it pertains to human
sexuality. Religion is absolutely nuts. It is perpetuating myths that have
far reaching and very damaging consequences to the world. As alway
well done.
Pilgrim812 1 year ago
Several African nations have anti-gay laws. South Africa is the only progressive nation on the Continent. Gay marriage is legal in South Africa.
Protean, you're hilarious, mate!
I'm so glad I subscribed to this thread.
joel1923 1 year ago
@gotsissues the earth is not going anywere people are: ecclessiastes 1:4One generation passeth away, and another generation cometh: but the earth abideth for ever.
TEEWEE01 1 year ago
@TEEWEE01 Dude you spend 4 message for my every 1. I'm not responding to all that. Let's stick w/ the basics before you start assuming that we should all have power like Sampson. In beginning God created Heaven and Earth and Earth was w/o form. So you see? You're wrong that Heaven is Earth. They are two places. You don't even understand the basics. I don't have time to go scripture-to-scripture w/you especially when u don't have basic knowledge. So how is Earth actually Heaven now? lol
igotsissues 1 year ago
Lot was not saved because he was a "good man" he was saved in spite of himself just as no men are "good men" and all who trust in christ are saved in spite of themselves. the story of sodom and gamora wasn't just about buttsex. read the story again. the whole town was there. men, women, fathers, sons, daughters... all of them to rape these two guys. thats not wicked?
that doesn't absolve Lot or his daughters either. God saved Lot because he's good and can even use broken vessels for his purpose
anonazero 1 year ago
DAMN PROTEANVIEW are ANY of your viewers Christians? lol
Says a lot about YOU unfortunately.
igotsissues 1 year ago
After Lot offers his "virgin daughters", he tells his sons in laws to escape with him. The story says "they thought Lot was joking."
So :
#1 - Lot was also a liar - his daughters weren't virgins.
#2 - Lot's son in laws were good enough to be saved, but since they didn't believe Lot (would you believe a guy that just lied while offering your wife up for a gang rape?) God kills them.
#3 - then God turns Lot's wife turns to salt.
What a swell guy God is huh?
TheHigherVoltage 1 year ago
Dont Strain too Much Protean. The Bible was right. Butsecks in a society of no running water, and little to no hygiene was potentialy a disaster, that people translated as curse.We in Ancient Greece,used to have a bath every day at that time, so buttsecks was accepted and protected by one of the many Gods. So the Bible was right, emphasis on WAS.Daughter Gangbang was safer than buttsecks. The question is, since today buttsecks is safe, why do people have to follow a 2000 year old lifestyle book?
graphattic 1 year ago
The Gays are recruiting? I didn't know they had an army. The Pink Front is attacking, yeeaahh!! Gangbang is condoned by the Old Testament? At last that OT is starting to make sense. Took them long enough though!
(Sorry for not being serious today, but religious fundamentalists always bring out the worst in me)
LittlPussi 1 year ago
this is what this boils down to in sodom and gamorah just think of it as men who were lawless raping other men in this government what would you do to someone who was sexually violating another person? Do you just let them run around violating somone who doesnt concent? Im sure not even a gay man wants to be violated or raped some laws need to be upheld.
TEEWEE01 1 year ago
@TEEWEE01 Read Deuteronomy. God is a-ok with rape - men raping unmarried girls that is. Rapists just have to pay the victim's father some silver if they get caught, and marry their victim.
Jesus is a-ok with rape. Just as long as only girls are being raped.
Good ol' Jesus.
TheHigherVoltage 1 year ago
@TheHigherVoltage what scripture is that because the deuteronomy i know says that if a man rapes a woman he is put to death. can i get that scripture?
TEEWEE01 1 year ago
@TEEWEE01 Deuteronomy 22:28-29. You really read the whole book - cover to cover.
TheHigherVoltage 1 year ago
Hey protean, I love listening to your insights. Keep making videos!
JoFoo2 1 year ago
interracial gangbang > gay sex
WKaliberr 1 year ago
There's a bit of a theme going on in Genesis. The more righteous a man the more prone he is to getting blind drunk. Old Noah liked getting drunk and wandering around his tent naked.
braeduin 1 year ago
Throw that one in the face of the bible thumpers, as for me I follow the my pilot.
jeff2all 1 year ago
I thought Top Gay was just an uninspired porn adaptation of Top Gun, but now it's an international competition?
DanMickie 1 year ago
Lesbians don't need to have butt sex so are they exempt? Ok ok ok look lets be honest here people. What is a gangbang without butt sex? You and I both know where there is a gang bang there is more than likely to be butt sex. 9 out of 10 gang bangs usually result in some sort of butt sex. I'm looking at a gang bang right now and let me tell you there is definitely butt sex involved. So if you like gang bangs that means you like butt sex am I right?.... Wait what was this video about?
bugninja80 1 year ago
@bugninja80 oh the topic is about bible versus that talk about using sex as a weapon and basically raping another person to force your power over them, not really homosexuality. Does that help?
TEEWEE01 1 year ago
@TEEWEE01 Yes it does thanks sometimes I get lost in conversations about butt sex. Anyway I would just like to add Uganda is being pretty fucked up right here.
bugninja80 1 year ago
@bugninja80 why is that such a suprise most of these so called third world countries look to The United States as to how to gain power and run a country and see all the bullshit politics and think thats how you run a country so much for democracy if you dont fit in the want list of who should be on the list, We in America believe in democracy as long as your a white supremist who owns land has a trophy wife hate muslims and gay people than thats what democracy is in this country.
TEEWEE01 1 year ago
@bugninja80 oh i forgot you can also be on the list if you of another race as long as you assimulate (be white)to the regime as described.
TEEWEE01 1 year ago
@TEEWEE01 In this case though I don't think it's about America as much it is about the religious aspect of it. When people are in situations of despair then tend to take to religious dogma quite fanatically. We don't execute gays in America and although the gay culture is frowned upon in some areas of the US there is not a strong promotion of death to gays. You will be more fanatical about kiling gays if you think there is an invisible being watching you that approves of your actions.
bugninja80 1 year ago
@bugninja80 well not unlike the laws and sublaws and statutes of america the bible has laws and sub laws and laws that break those laws and laws that fufill those laws. Just wondering if you try to live by the laws of the land and take them to heart? If yes then people who fallow the bible do the same. The laws of this land only allow certain law inforcers to put people to death on death row are you for that? I know that some people take the bible and other religious books fanatically.
TEEWEE01 1 year ago
@bugninja80 add too~ i read the bible but know how to take scripture and place it into correct context. Like alot of polititians who make law over this nation they are also fanatical and some of them are ignorant athiests. There are ignorant, polititians, religious leaders, Athiests and such.
TEEWEE01 1 year ago
@bugninja80 To just label someone as stupid or ignorant just because they fallow some form of bible or law from the koran doesnt mean its the truth. Not all athiest know what they are talking about by way of truth just like not all people who read the bible or koran.
TEEWEE01 1 year ago
@TEEWEE01 I didn't say that that anyone was stuipd for believing in the Bible. I said people in situations of despair can lead to fanaticism, when combined with religion it causes to obey the dogma of a however many thousands of years old thought that is outdated. It will be taken literally when people are in a situation such as Uganda because a ticket is a relief of everyday life from which few can manage to escape.
bugninja80 1 year ago
@bugninja80 I think that being gay or being anti gay in Uganda is the least of their worries along with other countries over the globe our own in the United States included, rape of little girls to rid someone of aids and mutilation bigger problem than whos gay or not. Rape should be the key word here in this video that proteanview is speaking about .
TEEWEE01 1 year ago
@TrickSports Oh, you mean apart from the offers of gang-rape, violent Black-magic blindness attacks, and incest to make babies, there are plot-points which are even MORE significant? Hahahahahaha.
Dracopol 1 year ago
hahahaha
xapemanx 1 year ago
Just when we didn't think it could get any crazier...
TheCurmudgen 1 year ago
Curses! I missed the #10 spot by only 3 rimjobs this year.
antisubaru 1 year ago
@antisubar You gays have it easy. If your quota is low, you just pick up a pizza at the pizzeria, detour to a 24-hour gay-bar with slurp-ramps and glory-holes, do something gay, and then drive home and the pizza is still warm. Straights are on a slower time-scale. To "score" you have to put out an ad in Craigslist, take her out to dinner and a movie, come back to your place, pore for hours on the Kama Sutra to negotiate a position, and your pizza is cold and festering...
Dracopol 1 year ago
Thank you for speaking out. I intend to go to Uganda to find a husband the moment gay marriage is legal in California. We need to start an underground railroad for them to escape if need be.
geminidave 1 year ago
Can't wait for the top 10 list of people who aren't gay.
1oct1 1 year ago
"He tried to pay them but it didn't dissuade them from putting him ...on the cover of the Rolling Stooooooone!" Hahahahaha.
Dracopol 1 year ago
FUCK! Christians who go to destroy other culturs need to hang.
MrZuesThunder 1 year ago
proteanview has figured out that idiot amerikans can't keep their attention on anything past about 2 minutes. keep it short, keep it simple minded, keep preaching to the choir. it's what indolent amerika wants.
NoLongerDelusional 1 year ago
Just wait until the leaders in Uganda come out as pro gay butt sex.
scotsmanlerxt 1 year ago
theyre going to start a 21st century witchhunt, that is if they haven't already
stormfox1 1 year ago
ah thanks, you've made it MUCH clearer for me now
Buttsecks = bad
Incest = Wincest
SegaFanClub 1 year ago
Sometimes, ..... being human makes me want to hang my head in shame.
SmokeRingsPipeDreams 1 year ago 2
I spent a couple of years in Uganda and it is true that the American evangelicals are out in force there and in Kenya and even when I was there this was feeding into witch hunting and a widespread belief that witches were real, and existed(and should be killed) It's all in the bible right?
To add to the poisonous mixture, there are actually a lot of muslims there dating back to the 19th century Arab incursions.
Not a happy little country...
Recruiting homosexuals? What a bizarre image
CobinRain 1 year ago 12
Actually they also murdered Lot's daughter and cut her up into tiny pieces. It wasn't so much that he was ok with giving up his daughter as he didn't want them to bust into the house and kill them all. Hospitality was a big deal back then.
mattschol 1 year ago
Incestuous gang-bangs are pretty mild compared to the genocide and child murder so often advocated by the Bible.
ArcoFlagellant 1 year ago 11
Why doesn't the original Rolling Stone sue them out of existance, or does Ugandas corrupt government protect that trash rag.
JamesThWilliams 1 year ago
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seriously, are you surprised?
sleekcartim 1 year ago
Nope, this dude is turning the scriptures around
nineballssj9 1 year ago
Funny video :p
As for the bible, you can find all kinds of nonsensical stuff, nufflan said.
But lets talk anti gay and Uganda.
I do not or ever will support gay hangings or even persecution of gays, but I have been a vocal opponent of gay rights or even any right based on positive rights.
But as zionism is a intrest lobby of racial intrest, isn't the gay lobby a special intrest in the halls of power, corrupt and self serving as any other lobby is and do we really wan't that ?
Curas1 1 year ago
@Curas1
In other words isn't there a better model for social justice that is all inclusive to it's citizenry and constituent will than these groups that have a pervasive view of their own causes ?
Curas1 1 year ago
ASIDE from the Sodom story, the Bible does call homosexuality ABOMINATION bro. So, if you're gonna be a REAL CHRISTIAN, then you gotta admit it's a sin. I don't think they should hang em but I applaud Uganda for not celebrating homosexuality like USA does. We lost our Christian way really.
igotsissues 1 year ago
@igotsissues Why is homosexuality wrong?
Fighting31406 1 year ago
@Fighting31406 Bible says so bro. If you're gonna call yourself a Christian, you gotta admit this. It's an abomination. Not my judging. Straight from the Good Book.
igotsissues 1 year ago
@igotsissues I know. But why is it wrong?
Fighting31406 1 year ago
@Fighting31406 Same reason lying is wrong. Neither will necessarily hurt someone but it's immoral based on God's law. Who am I to question what the creator lays out?
igotsissues 1 year ago
@igotsissues Of course a sheep like you would say "who am i to question what the creator lays out?" Well who are you to question what the mafia boss does to you?
crackerkiller89 1 year ago
@crackerkiller89 that doesnt even make sense, even jesus said be as little children meaning kids always ask why is this because of this why is that because of that, children question everything to make sure things add up.
TEEWEE01 1 year ago
@crackerkiller89 Sheep? Nope, just a Christian. You think everyone who doesn't think the way you do is a sheep. The most close minded there is.
igotsissues 1 year ago