Don't you find it odd that because the foolish questions of the truthers "aren't being addressed" (they have been, but part of asking questions is listening to answers; it's a two step process) leads you to see that as "suspicious"? Do you not see how ridiculous you're being?
Extraordinary events don't necessarily have extraordinary causes. It sucks...but it's reality.
Also, if you were aiming for platinum hair, try double processing next time.
Bush and Cheney didn't respond to these allegations because they're fringe beliefs held by a minority of society. Them acknowledging said allegations would only focus more attention on it and make a complete media shit storm. They didn't choose not to publicly deny it because they're hiding something - they chose not to publicly deny it because to do so would be a fucking stupid publicity move, guilty OR innocent.
You have video tapes of flights 11 and 175 slamming into the towers. AND you need VIDEO to prove 77 slammed into the pentagon?? THEY PULLED BODY PARTS out of the pentagon and DNA matched them to the passengers on the manifest (same with flight 93). If they introduced any video you idiots would question its authenticity for the next ten years. See where this is going? There's no such thing as proof with you nimrods, because you won't believe ANYTHING.
All of these questions have already been answered I have seen it. There is no conspiracy, a bunch of Muslim terrorists hijacked a couple of planes and slammed it into buildings. That's it.
Popular Mechanics is a cheerleader for the sophistication of advanced weaponry and new technology used by police in areas such as crowd control and 'anti-terror' operation. War makes them money just like all the other lying fat cats. You guys are all little boys waiting for big brother to tell you whats what.
Let's be honest. If the gov released some video clearly showing a commercial aircraft hitting the Pentagon, truthers wouldn't believe it anyway. Because, of course, the video was doctored by the gov. Just like all the videos of aircraft striking the WTC. Right?
@flyoverjoe Releasing it after ten years, wouldn't you be suspicious? Let's face it, if there was nothing to hide they would have released the footage a long time ago.
@forthome3 Fair enough. Let's pretend they did release the tapes the same day, and one clearly showed an American Airlines jet striking the Pentagon. All other events and facts surrounding the day, however, remained exactly the same. Would you have been convinced then.
@flyoverjoe I would believe that a plane hit the building, just like WT7. I trust what my eyes tell me. The whole point is that there are so many unanswered questions that need to be answered. Why do those with the answers keep silent? Cheney and Bush refusing to appear before the 9/11 Commision, just like 'the accused' refusing to answer questions, speaks volumes.
First anyone can fall into the either of their own theroies backed by miss-alined science, Coincidence that seems not to be just that etc. To be fair you first must accept anything is possible! Ex; life springs from nothing, nothing gives birth to something. To say it is impossible for building 7 to fall the way it did from the natural circumstances is absolutist, because the only way to believe that there is no such thing as coincidence is to belive that sometimes it just is coincidence!
With the towers compared to buildings that are only burning, they have not been gutted with a broad sword thrust through. Except one, not a jet and not as deep. The jets compromise and destroy large areas of the buildings structure. The second tower hit has the whole corner and side taken out almost right the way through. It falls first because it has to hold up more mass above this point along with the nature of the strike compared with how much mass the first tower must hold up. E=mc2
E=Mc2 on this in more detail. The equation means energy is equal to mass and vise versa, as Albert said both but different manifestations of the same thing. M=E and E=M So the huge mass of the tower translates into enough energy to make it fall, crumble the way it did at the speed it did, if you don't belive this, it is the very reason the atomic bomb is possible, a small amount of mass = large amount of energy. Once Newtons law of motion kicked in as the building began to fall, E=mc2 joined.
With the planes E=Mc2 along with newtons law were well at work. There were tens of thousands of joules of kinetic energy associated with the impacts, which was more than the individual columns could withstand. Then add the hundreds of giga-joules of chemical energy into the mix and the combination of the two was more than many of the individual components, which were subjected that force, could handle. Stop comparing to buildings that are just burning away, it is simply a different equation
You can ask any questions you like. The problem is that conspiracy theorists keep moving to another theory once the one they currently like is debunked. To any resonable person this speaks of a lack of credibilty. It makes it look like they NEED a conspiracy. For what reason? Good question.
Anon: Well, what if some college kid analyzes old news footage, zooms up on grainy video stills, and uncovers our entire plot by reading old, unclassified government press releases and posts a video on the internet, complete with spooky/mysterious sounding music?
Good video imo, I agree with you. I have seen loose change and read popular mechanics. For me, a lot still does not add up. Many steel structures have burnt for hours and not collapsed - yet 2 of the most terror threatened buildings in the world crumble at freefall speed?
@euyfdvfhj it was close to it. Not sure the twin towers was a conspiracy but I think the pentagon story does seem like a lot of bullshit and they are lying about something. If it is how the government says and as they have videos of it, why not just release one?
@tcarling Because they don't need to? Because people accept that this is nonsense, presumably. I'm sure there's a reason all the footage is clasified, and if they can't provide anything valid then obviously that arouses conspiracy theorists. Anyhow, the government ignore this crap...if they were hiding something surely they would probably fight against conspiracies? And the loose change documentaty blinds you with facts and figures, half of which seem false...
@euyfdvfhj If they released the footage it would debunk almost all conspiracy theroies.The US government has been involved in endless coverups over the years, that is just a fact. The twin towers is debatable - the pentagon incident is simple science. There is no way the 2 engines can burn up and they aren't visable in the wreckage. There is very limited damage, no way it would be like that if it was hit by a plane of that size imo.
Ah, so now there's a conspiracy theory about posters? You've got to be kidding. Wish I had a nickel for every truther nimrod who has accused me of being a gov't shill or getting paid by some black ops group, etc. No one in their right mind questions whether flight 77 hit the pentagon. Hundreds of eyewitnesses, piles of identifiable schrapnel, bodies, DNA matching, etc. You have a right to ask questions, that is guaranteed. And you have a right to EXPECT an answer, but that's it, laddie. Ta ta.
Thank you for your work. The people or cointelpro (counterintelligenceprogram) trolls that post regularly are exactly what you think they are. Creepy. Sherlock Holmes said that when you eliminate the impossible whatever remains however improbable is the answer. These people are paid by the government to beat the truth with a bat night and day. Plenty of amphetamines to go around for these guys. It's worse than you think. Nebraska nuclear power plant.
there will always be more questions than answers. the fact of the matter is that the majority of the claims made by loose change has been debunked and proven wrong.
I dont agree with you. You only think it was debunked.
You should be doubting the Official Story as it is based entirely on speculation. There is NO PROOF of how the towers collapsed. They don't even have proof the fires were hot enough to soften and melt the steel. Its all based on speculation yet you believe it. Crazy!
Popular Mechanica didn't even consider all the evidence. How pathetic.
yet youll believe all these crazy conspiracies that were pulled out of the asses of a bunch of college dropouts ok.. look into history and realize that there have always been looney conspiracy theories that have surfaced after big events such as the moon landing, jfk assassination, the death of princess diana, ad so on so forth. the facts are there, its just a matter of putting aside all of the bullshit that clouds the facts
This is exactly why believers (like you) get hardly any respect. If someone questions the official story (that isn't supported by the facts) you automatically think they believe all the bullshit.
oh the hypocrisy. i never said i believed everything in the official story either
it has been proven already by the majority of people in the field of physics and fire sciences that the towers collapsed because of the planes hitting them. there were no bombs inside the buildings = fact. there have even been numerous experiments that took place replicating the scenario of what happened on 9/11. questioning something is one thing but jumping to ridiculous conclusions is another.
People got to stop taking this as a joke I support this 100% and why not..there too much proof...people wake up I know is hard to agree I love this country and so does Many people.I really care I really care about people who are serving our country and our people. please help to stop this. This is a crime i know it sound hard to believe but it's the truth. I end up watching loose change and the other stuff like five times just to realize that what they was saying is the truth. Do the same and y
@infoseeker264 There is footage of the plane hitting the pentagon. DNA from almost all of the passengers on the flight 77 passenger manifest has been found at the site. There are clear photos of the crash site from the day of the attack of plane debris with the American Airlines logo on it. What more would you like?
There is NO PROOF. Lets see the footage of a plane hitting the pentagon. Prove it.
The DNA was NOT collected at the pentagon. It was all collected at the morgue.
Lets see the "CLEAR" photos of the wreckage. Some of the first photos (before the wall collapsed) didn't show any of this debris you are referring to. How do you explain this?
@infoseeker264 First, here's video of the plane. /watch?v=aO89HfdgKB4 I see a plane. What do you see and why? Listen to yourself. If DNA was collected at the morgue, where was the stuff that went to the morgue collected? How do I explain photos that don't show the wreckage? Show them to me and we'll see. What you're proposing is so complicated that it makes ZERO sense. The problem is I can't prove I even exist if you're unwilling to accept your senses ... It seems you are.
@infoseeker264 I'm basing my whole view on the fact that however much credible "evidence" my side of the argument has, the other side has considerably less. I'm sorry you want to deal in proof. That attitude will disappoint you the rest of your life. As I've already pointed out, there is no proof, even of your own physical body. Good luck with that. My question is what do you believe (if anything) happened and what "proof" (or more appropriately "evidence") is there for that view?
I am not sure what happened. I just DONT believe the official story because it is NOT BACKED UP with the FACTS. As I said before - I am NOT that gullible.
You keep talking about the "other side" having less evidence. What is that all about. I don't need evidence to question the official story. I want to see the evidence that PROVES what happened.
@infoseeker264 The truth doesn't exist. The closest you can come to it is the evidence. I'm not gullible at all, I'm just saying that all the available evidence points to American Airlines flight 77 hitting the pentagon on Sept. 11, 2001. 136 eyewitnesses to the plane on a collision course or the actual impact or both ... DNA and personal items from the passengers, inside the pentagon crash site ... Verified parts of a 757 at the crash site some of it marked with portions of the AA logo etc.
Everything that you are using as proof has been in question. Lets see the proof. Im sure there is a better image of the plane hitting the pentagon. Why else would the FBI tell the people that seen these other videos to keep silent about what they seen. It makes no sense.
@infoseeker264 If you haven't seen what I'm talking about you haven't looked. You're head is in the sand, you have made up your mind and you won't be bothered with facts. The ONLY way to justify what you are saying is to hypothesize a HUGE conspiracy involving THOUSANDS of people. When in the history of the world has any such thing existed? Can you say ... NEVER?
@infoseeker264 You are in fact QUITE gullible. You've been led to believe that there is insufficient evidence for the majority of the official story and YOU BELIEVE THAT'S THE CASE! You want to talk "gullible"? THAT'S gullible!
I've watched the videos, "Loose Change", "Debunking videos", Amateur videos, simulation and analysis, eyewitness, engineer, pilots, and many others... After looking at the Original and NIST reports, I find a large number of questions that go unanswered. The National Geographic, Popular Mechanics, and some other publications, exhibit some of the worse work I've ever seen done by these publications. ...and when did these publications become experts on things like Thermate? lol
You don't have to be an expert on thermate.....Test have already shown Thermate can cut through steel. People were using Thermate to cut through steel in their own backyards. ...but why are you asking me, when the evidence is already available, and has been available for years? This video is old, and hardly up to date on available evidence. Actually, the folks doing backyard experiments using Thermate did a far better job....and I've been a fan of PM and NG since I were a child. ...sad
@Born2Flesh Yeah, the problem is, it ONLY cuts vertically and the claims made concerning controlled demolition would require that it cut horizontally. I'm asking you because you said, "when did these publications become experts on things like Thermate? lol" When I challenged you on who you're using as an "expert" you cited "folks doing backyard experiments" You can't have it both ways.
@Born2Flesh How did they match the DNA of the hijackers? Are you serious? Why don't you think before you ask a question like that. If you were going to do it, how would you go about it?
If the 6 ton, 9ft tall, steel and titanium engines "disintegrated" and/or "vaporized" as reported in The Official Story, how did human flesh survive for a DNA test? Four(4) Black Boxes were not found, but they found one of the terrorist I.D.? lol ...we've heard everything. Explain the changing passenger list? RELEASE THE TAPES OF THE PENTAGON! 9/11 = 100% Inside Job
@Born2Flesh Nobody says engines "vaporized" or "disintegrated", in fact there were engine parts from a 757 found inside the pentagon. Human flesh is mostly water and the DNA contained in such material is extremely durable. Both black boxes from flight 77 were found. Changing passenger lists? In some cases the families of victims asked that their names not be included and this request was honored. These "lists" are not the actual passenger manifest which WAS published and IS accurate.
Honestly its not serious. A lot of these so called questions have been answered. Why does a video need to be produced to prove that a plane crashed into the pentagon? You have pictures of aircraft parts, burnt corpses, eye wittiness. Or is this all part of the cover up too? The stuff coming out of Loose Change is full of half truths, lies, and quote mining; the kind of tactics a creationist would be proud of. This thing plays right into the hands of the US as a distraction from the real issues.
the anti truth people are the negative ones? Correct me if I'm wrong, but the truthers are the ones who repeatedly regard everyone outside of their movement as sheeple, or zionists, or members of the illuminati, or shape shifting lizards. and as for wanting your questions answered? they've been answered over and over for years, you just don't like the answers because they're too obvious and logical.
I agree with you 100% I have not watched info on loose change for a long time. I come watch the updates and debates and notice on every video someone has posted a negative.. Only, usually, a singular comment.. Put doubt in the video and the people making the comments.. All I can say is CUBAN CHRISES
problem being is that it's impossible for the top of WTC 1 to crush what supported it without the use of explosives, now ask yourself who had opportunity and motive? who would do this, then ask yourself if such people are even human? if you can explain how something gains momentum with a building in the way please do, and feed your pancakes to the dog I doubt anyone can have a linear conversation about this, you brainwashed turds
Even pointing out that some people seem to make it their job to spend their lives debunking this stuff marks you out as a CT nut. However just as we feel it's important to get people to investgate 9/11 there are those who feel it's important that you don't start believing it was an inside job. They will do everything they can to scare you off the idea.
They have shown the security tape of the plane hitting the Pentagon. The problem is it takes 1 frame a second and so because of the low grade quality the conspiracy theorists assume it's fake. Go to Google Videos and search Nova's "Why the Towers Fell" I think it might help you with the science.
well, when people reply to msgs u get an email alert, and it takes ur attention back to the page. I love how truthers demand people do the research, but they do theirs on websites like Alex Jones who is a radio personality and the LC retards. When you demand research be done, u want credible scientists and researches doing the work, not people with a predetermined agenda, thats why science leads the way. The scientists all say, The planes brought it down. Pull your head out of ur ass!
you want to see some truly creepy stuff... go do research on the TINY aspects of 9/11. things that, oddly, loose change just didnt seem to cover to much, if any, degree. unfortunately this involves MANY hours of reading and studying, not 9/11 conspiracy sites, but "regular" sites and also debunking sites. if you do that, you will find much more damning evidence than any documentary will provide you. and a tip to "conspiracy theorists"--- stop fucking speculating so much. you are giving
... legitimacy an extremely bad name. you don't need to speculate about ANYTHING here. just get sourced and LEGITIMATE evidence with EXTREMELY reputable sources. provide the evidence. THEN as a postscript, maybe, MAYBE, lay out a bit of a biased argument. not too biased and not to extravagant. that is the only way to get lots of people, everyday blind americans, to listen to you.
okay what about liquid metal red hot molten steel pouring out of the broken walls of the twin towers where was that answered in the report. there is video of it thats not an oppion.No one told me what it was i saw it for myself without being prompted by anyone.Have you ever read the entire commissions report. You do realize by now im sure that steel does not liquefy under temperatures anywhere near what is produced by jet fuel or office fires, check your report and get back to me.
WOW, you got issues. Critical you are not. Lost, maybe so. People really don't care about you. They just like screwing with a lost soul. Your ignorance gives them the fuel to their fire. They're just having fun with you loser. RELAX!
It should be noted that popularmechanics isn't the most credible website concerning 911 information. It itself is influenced and funded by government and government related institutions. There are sites that have actually debunked its articles on 911. Go on google and search
The one aspect I struggle to grasp is how can three building fall 'perfectly' without controlled demolition. One maybe a fluke, two highly unlikely, but three ( the third being an entirely different building structure lower to the ground and with a wider base )... that must be nearly impossible without human intervention. Highly educated and skilled people are paid good money and invest a lot of time ensuring a building falls in this way when required. It is an exact science.
@celebritysketches You have to understand you have Thousands of tons of steel and whatever else was on those floors falling uniformly on top of floor after floor. Thats alot of weight , add in the fact that the steel was heated at a constant temp that would weaken and bend the steel causing it to snap and free fall at a high rate of speed. I think if the metal beams would have been rienforced with concrete it wouldn't have fell so easily.
@espiritdecorps79 Look at Building 7: the strange BBC prediction of the collapse 20mins before it happened; the initial cover up that Larry Silverstein was misquoted but later LS comes out later and says he did mean controlled demolishion when he said "pulled"; finally that Building 7 could have been bought down under controlled demolition even without "raging fires" and all materials and experts on site with detailed building plans and knowledge of all the key support collums. It takes weeks.
He is a devout christian and needs a "devil" to fight and that devil is the "illuminati" who he thinks is just one entity, pfft...
I spent about $500 US dollars to buy his dvds/merchandise and was into him for a little while but he will never talk against zionism since his wife is Jewish and half of ads supporting his show (eg: ecolo blue,etc) are jewish owned
if you want to make sence of what Alex Jones is talking about, watch to my playlists and read the info in it
I did research for over 2 years and what I keep hearing insults my intelligence. when your not blinded by your wool you will see that almost all the excuses I have heard are complete bullshit to cover up the fact that this was planned by the secret government. Those buildings were blown to shit by bombs towers 1 and 2 and building 7. The lies told about the pentagon are laughable the landing gear (part rubber tires)made the hole but the titainium 12 foot engines did nothing? Who is that retared?
@AlienVisitor The retard would be the guy who cannot spell retard lol. That would be you. They didn't say the tires caused the whole they said the landing gear as a whole. Plus they also have photographic evidence of plane parts and piecs of twisted metal from the airplane wrapped around parts of the building. Come on you seriously don't worship the ground that loose change walks on because that ground has no evidence and thats why Popular Mechanics destroyed them in that debate.
@Bcm80 It's called a typo fagboy, PM is contolled by the assholes hiding the truth. Your just a insignificant sheep and I don't care what you think or what you say.
@AlienVisitor Classic truther. anytime someone proves you wrong you say the government controlled those people so obviously there evidence isn't credible. You obviously are a waste of my time. So I guess I'll go somewhere else.
most of these questions have been answered to the best of our ability, but truthers just reject it and ask the same damn question because they aren't satisfied with answers that point to anything other than some kind of conspiracy. Yes there are still some inconsistencies because that entire day was a giant clusterfuck the likes of which the united states has not seen since pearl harbor.
Amazingly big structure can not fall in 7 seconds, it just can't. A little explosions on the way down. People who believe official story have to be blind or what? Is it that obvious? If there is a red cube, Avery would see it red, and other people would see it blue? Of course not. Like Avery said, Popular Mechanics DO NOT bring actual evidence of nothing at all! "We've spoken to professionals ..." Avery and Burmas can say it either ... can't they?
The nys museum is in my hometown, I've been there and seen things they've recovered. One guy even found a pop tart in good shape. Drugs and paraphernalia, guns,personal effects.. all kinds of small stuff survived (though not unscathed). nature is chaos. It doesn't worm the way "you would think."
That was a test... So if you payed any attention to the world before 9/11 you wouldn't have been surprised at what happened, and wouldn't be dumb enough to think that bin laden couldn't do what he did. Everything was available before 9/11 to show you what was happening. However like most people it took a traumatic event for you to even pay attention, and that's why you use video game and movie logic to pretend you know what happens in the real world.
I don't need an expert to to tell me what I witnessed with my own eyes, 3 buildings that had pyroclastic volcanic type eruptions where beams are strewn all over Manhattan and buildings are PULVERIZED, but pristene passports are found in the rubble unscathed. You people who believe this government fairytale are a bunch of LOONS or Mossad agents because anyone with a brain knows 19 Muslim were not on a mission for Allah because they "hate our freedoms".
Popular Mechanics is a sham, how pathetic when you can even trust a mechanic magazine, it is hopeless at this point. 9/11 was a scam, a lie, a inside job.
@wasy35 Its funny if, if Popular Mechanics agreed with all you truthers, you would be the first person to agree with them and cite them as a great source who must know what their talking about.
Now that they dont agree with you, they are fools who shouldnt be trusted. Truthers fit what works for their conclusions, then throw all the rest out with the bath water. That is called being paraniod.
@marcusdolby1 This reply of yours is beyond innate! I would agree/disagree with popular mechanics based on facts not anything else, you logic was hideous, shame.
@wasy35 You base it on the facts? What facts are you talking about? The ones that loose change brings up? Facts huh? Just like the guys from PM say..... truthers have no real facts. Just speculation and rumor. All the suposed experts they talk about arent experts at all. Sorry to inform you but........ your niave and have been conned into believing a paraniod story of attention seekers and money makers. Stop being brainwashed and open up your trolling eyes.
@marcusdolby1 you should look at national security sensitive info the investigator interviews 3 cops and a former pilot that were witnesses to the plane flying south of columbia ave making it impossible for the plane to hit the 4 downed light poles on the road and they interview taxi driver that was on the scene which confesess to planting evidence. i think that you are the brainwashed. I encorage free people to ask the hard question and not to believe the media they all lie
@marcusdolby1 what do you do for a living? I ask cuz most people that are so sure of the official story work in a gov office and are afraid to see the truth
@marcusdolby1 I think you are paranoid with the fact that it bothers you so much that the 9/11 truth movement is winning. I bet you voted for Bush twice. I bet you still think he was a good president. You only have 1 favorite video and you don't even have any uploads. Did you just create an account to try to convince people that the government is telling the truth about 9/11? I have yet to hear someone try to debunk WTC 7. Look up Mandarin Hotel Fire.
@jrhd00d84 I have a favorite video? Thats the first I know about it. Nope, didnt vote for bush twice, voted for them 4 times.
But the fact you try and discredit bush proves you have an agenda, Put down the hate, and maybe you could have an open slate to look at 911. It seems like you have already come up with what happend that day and nothing will change your mind.
That is called reverse phycology and you have it. BTW, I also voted for Obama, but that turned out to be a mistake.
I agree! I was watching it open-mindedly, as I assumed Popular Mechanics would have good rebuttals, but they didn't, just a lot of stammering and attempts at dissuasion. All the time I couldn't help wondering who was paying them, whereas my intellect and gut instinct told me that the guys from Loose Change were legitimate and sincere in their efforts to bring the truth to light. - Thank you for posting this video. Its nice to know there are still some sane rational people in the world!
@2edsajdmsa why is it wrong to ask questions? are you afraid of the answers. there are cases in the courts that are so trivial its ridicoulus and the case that should be investigated so exoustly was closed so quick which in it self makes the governments reaction suspisiuos. they covered the pentagon lawn the next week from the attack isnt that a crime scene it still should be under investigation
@2edsajdmsa the fact that people try to use the words "conspiracy theorist" as a way to discredit others is insulting and a pathetic argument. You are a great example of someone who likes to call people names to discredit them.
the proof HAVE been out there a long time.....loose change teens only have questions NOT facts like in depunking911, there is all answers for all conpiracy theory freaks
@gangones what do you do for a living? cuz there are MIT scientists that are saying there should be an investigation cuz the science dont match up. one Law can never be broken by no one and thats the law of physics
I feel strange that even if you think that "loose change" is stupid and that those kids are no good you can't just try to ignore the fact that there are some very strange coincidences.
Anyway someone who is SO sure that there was NOTHING weird going on and who believes everything the government says ignoring ALL the interogations of others very naive or just an idiot.
when i watch the debate i see 5 jews sitting at a table. 2 jews claim the christians did it(bush cheney ect) 2 jews claim the muslims did it(bin laden) and 1 jew in the middle(amy) claims she is trying to hold a 'fair' debate. very interesting considering all evidence points to israel and jews in PNAC as the guilty ones. all this 'internet thug trolling' by the same people indicates that there is a deliberate attempt to silence any objection to the 'official story'. watch "missing links"
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What questions are you demanding to be answered? Have you even read the 9/11 commission report? Probably not.
Every piece of "evidence" that the loose change kids bring up can be DESTROYED by factual evidence. So WHAT questions are you demanding to be answered?
Stop being a sheep and believing everything you hear on a conspiracy video.
Did you know that the same kids who made loose change also believe that george h w bush was behind the kennedy assassination and that we never landed on the moon?
Yes of course I've read the commission report (in fact I've reread it recently). I certainly don't believe everything in Loose Change, but US support for Bin Laden and Pakistani support for Atta are both sound pieces of evidence. The commission report saying that the financing of the attack was "of little practical significance" as well as Kean himself saying the CIA's blocking of information undermined the integrity of the final report are OBVIOUS issues you'd be wrong to ignore.
Especially if every assumption made by NIST as regards the collapse initiation of all three buildings is correct, that means a meager amount of steel melting incendiary could also do what they're saying fire was able to do, so I want a side by side comparison (ie, what would it have looked like if the earth DID revolve around the sun).
Also, just because someone says "No one landed on the moon" it doesn't make them wrong if they say "The moon is NOT made of cheese".
And a broken clock shows correct time twice a day.
The notion that if even only a fraction of what they purport is true, then a new investigation is warranted is a well-known tenet of 9/11 "truth". What's lost on the truthers is the fact that if you say one hundred demonstrably false things (and do willfully continue to repeat them after they are proven as such), then it matters little if you accidentally stumble upon one or two unanswered "questions".
long time old friend. I don't disagree, many jeopardize their credibility by repeating spurious answers. And indeed, it distracts/detracts from any legitimate issues they may be raising.
I strongly believe the "leaders" of the 9/11 truth movement (like Rudowski of We Are Change) aren't just unfortunate blathering front men- they are placed (unwittingly I suspect in his case) at the fore by infiltrating elements to make sure no one hears the one or two unanswered "questions".
No, I hadn't heard about that. That's shitty. You're suggesting (that others will suggest) that he got honey potted? That kind of thing does happen. I have no opinion (like I said, I didn't know anything about it). I've been away from all this pretty much since I spoke with you last. Regardless, even a heroin dealing stopped clock, right? My point before was that (infiltration or just assholedom) "organized" 9/11 truth IS the conversation rather than IMO healthier skepticism.
That being said, I was as eager as others to err on the side of what I saw as caution 6 years ago, and erred indubitably in enough ways to undermine conversations with people about 9/11. Hrm. At least I'm not into heroin I suppose. Signing out again for a while, but message me if there's an interesting conversation going on somewhere. Peace Apoda.
@falconApoda "Did you know that Korey Rowe (one of the "Loose Change" producers) just got busted for dealing herion? Not using. Dealing. Heroin." So fucking what IF he did.That has nothing to do with 911 asshole.That's a typical republicunt tactic of making the "enemy" look bad.Just like the Swiftboat Veterans against Kerry. EVERYTHING THEY SAID WERE FUCKING LIES.& it cost Kerry the election.He's an asshole too though-just like the LYING MURDERING BUSH'S.
Neither did Rowe's film, "Loose Change" (fact-wise), but that didn't stop him and his co-horts from attempting to make a living off the deaths of 3000 American citizens peddling that video filled with lies and demonstrable falsehoods about the attack which took their lives. Apparently, this hasn't worked out too well, and so the filmmakers (one of them, anyway), have turned to pushing another sort of opiate.
@falconApoda All those films are free asshole.Every fucking 1 of them.Loose Change started dozens of truth groups loser. It had everything to do with 911 asshole. Go buy a brain asswipe.
@falconApoda Did you know that Korey Rowe (one of the "Loose Change" producers) just got busted for dealing herion? Not using. Dealing. Heroin.
SOURCE?? ACTUAL SOURCE & NOT A BLOG??? MAYBE A POLICE REPORT?
BTW did you know BUSH was charged with RAPE? What does that have to do with 911 schmuck? NOTHING.
Bush was also charged with INSIDER TRADING BY THE SEC just before he became president.HE'S A FUCKING LYING SCUMBAG CROOK who was schemed into the presidency.
If it's so meaningless as you suggest, then why are you so desperately attempting to cast doubt on the story? It's because you know it is absolutely true, that's why.
In any case, and though it may have little to do with 9/11, per se, it does have everything to do with the cottage industry known as "9/11 truth". One of the main stalwarts thereof has been busted dealing in narcotics. Kinda fitting, if you think about it.
@falconApoda SOURCE ASSHOLE Do you know the word asswipe? SOURCE EXACTLY
You dumb fuck.You quote "A BLOG" LOL LMFAO One of the main stalwarts thereof has been busted dealing in narcotics. Kinda fitting, if you think about it.
PROVE IT YOU LYING FUCK-NOT FROM A BLOG ASSHOLE.
Show me PROOF.A newsstory-A POLICE REPORT- something douchbag-not a blog u moronic useless piece of shit. lol
There's also a story in the Toronto Sun and the New York Daily News. The whole thing is a matter of public record, but you can continue to pretend that it never happened if you want.
@falconApoda You should read the comments genius. Getting busted for heroin has nothing to do with a documentary made what 5 years ago? LOL fucking loser..
BUSH was charged with RAPE but he was still schemed into the presidency. lol
I don't pretend things don't happen if they did asshole. I'm not like the schmucks who believe the government lies.
BTW do you have any idea how many GI's are addicted to heroin? Probably not. In VietNam-Iraq&afghanistan.
@ed11561 "Getting busted for heroin has nothing to do with..."
Then why were you so adamant that I provide a source? If one has nothing to do with the other, then why not simply admit that, yes, it's true that one of the creators of one of the most influential documentaries to come out of the 9/11 "truth" cult did recently get busted for pushing heroin?
Just admit it. Korey Rowe is a major stalwart within truthdorkdom. And he just got nailed for drug dealing.
@falconApoda Hey asshole if Korey Rowe got busted for heroin-it's either a fact or another way for the government to discredit him.Which 1 it is -i have no idea BUT IT DOESN'T MATTER YOU MORONIC ASSHOLE.
1 Kid is not the entire truth movement & he did not make the film himself you stupid fuck. LOL what a loser you are.
truthdorkdom? Boy u r 1 pitiful fuck.
BUSH WAS CHARGED WITH RAPE ASSHOLE- did that mean he couldn't become president schmuck? He did asshole.lol sorry to say.
Do you think I'm some sort of Bush-loving Republican? In fact, most people I know don't care much for 43. Some have argued that he or others in his administration might have been subject to impeachment following 9/11, but that this train abruptly left the station as soon as the 9/11 conspiracy kooks started filling up the platform.
So according to them, it's the fault of truthers that Bush remained in office.
@falconApoda That whole comment was moronic.You bring up Korey Rowe & when i put your dumb comment to shame by MAKING SENSE then you turn it all around like the schmuck that you are,
Conspiracy Kooks are assholes like you that believe the moronic tale of 19 muslim hijackers & the official GOVERNMENT CONSPIRACY THEORY.You have to be a fucking half-witted moron to believe anything the government swore to.But we know that you are just that.Talk was of impeachment moron.
@falconApoda tinyurl[dot]com/488lfhb very conveniently revised list,-barely legible & if u don't think the airlines were up to their ass in a fucking cover-up then you are dumber than even i thought.As a matter of fact the FAA was SUPPOSEDLY WARNED about terrorists & hijackings and did ABSOLUTELY NOTHING ABOUT the information.No warnings to anyone at anytime.
BTW what kind of asshole would be against The truth movement wanting to find out the TRUTH about what REALLY HAPPENED.asshole.
@ed11561 "...tinyurl[dot]com/488lfhb very conveniently revised.."
So you believe the list you said was released by the airlines (who you indicate were in on the cover-up) is an accurate representation of who was on the planes, but you don't believe the passenger manifests (released by the very same airlines) are?
You cite the airlines when (you think) they support your position, but then you dismiss them when it's clear that they don't? Is that how it works, ed?
@falconApoda So you believe the list you said was released by the airlines (who you indicate were in on the cover-up) is an accurate representation of who was on the planes, but you don't believe the passenger manifests (released by the very same airlines) are?
DAYS OR WEEKS LATER ASSHOLE? LOL FUCK OFF dipshit.YOU are the joke asshole.
Do you think that I'm making some sort of judgement about Korey Rowe and/or recreational drug use?
If you would bother to read, my whole point was about how the *truthkook* community would respond to this news... how they would immediately proclaim Rowe's innocence and suggest that he was somehow set up by the Powers That Be because of his views on 9/11. Or that the story was fake.
Gee... I wonder where I would have ever gotten such an idea, ED.
I think everyone agrees that we have OBVIOUSLY not been given the whole truth and nothing but the truth about 9/11. People differ on what they think did happen, and it's convenient to have straw men to shake your fist at and abdicate responsibility to address the shortcomings of the explanation we've been given. Thus here you come telling me what I believe rather than dealing with what I'm saying to you. This kind of illogic only holds up (tenuously) on the internet.
All i am saying is that there is OVERWHELMING evidence concluding that the attacks were not planned by our government, and were just planned by usual radical islamic terrorists. It happens.
No i haven't read the 9/11 commission report but i was pretty convinced after watching loose change.Though I definitely believe that ALOT of the evidence that Loose Changes brings up is extremely circumstantial, I still believe that there are a lot of excellent questions that were brought up in the video. I . I believe that the Government has only told us half of what is to be told. But you shouldn't troll and everyone should have the right to ask questions.
Don't you find it odd that because the foolish questions of the truthers "aren't being addressed" (they have been, but part of asking questions is listening to answers; it's a two step process) leads you to see that as "suspicious"? Do you not see how ridiculous you're being?
Extraordinary events don't necessarily have extraordinary causes. It sucks...but it's reality.
Also, if you were aiming for platinum hair, try double processing next time.
allidock11 1 month ago
A fundamental logical principle that is the main fallacy being committed with these claims: Correlation does not imply causation.
abasslinelow 1 month ago
Bush and Cheney didn't respond to these allegations because they're fringe beliefs held by a minority of society. Them acknowledging said allegations would only focus more attention on it and make a complete media shit storm. They didn't choose not to publicly deny it because they're hiding something - they chose not to publicly deny it because to do so would be a fucking stupid publicity move, guilty OR innocent.
abasslinelow 1 month ago
In fairness those kids ARE ass holes.
yibtstill 1 month ago
You have video tapes of flights 11 and 175 slamming into the towers. AND you need VIDEO to prove 77 slammed into the pentagon?? THEY PULLED BODY PARTS out of the pentagon and DNA matched them to the passengers on the manifest (same with flight 93). If they introduced any video you idiots would question its authenticity for the next ten years. See where this is going? There's no such thing as proof with you nimrods, because you won't believe ANYTHING.
bman342a 1 month ago
Thank you so much for this video, your are 100% right, these CIA misinformation agents have unlimited energy and funding
dxvxvx 3 months ago in playlist Liked
Really most people have suspicions about this thing. I think the "debunkers" are lying or... God knows what.
theskateboardfan 4 months ago
All of these questions have already been answered I have seen it. There is no conspiracy, a bunch of Muslim terrorists hijacked a couple of planes and slammed it into buildings. That's it.
rangers94ism 4 months ago
Popular Mechanics is a cheerleader for the sophistication of advanced weaponry and new technology used by police in areas such as crowd control and 'anti-terror' operation. War makes them money just like all the other lying fat cats. You guys are all little boys waiting for big brother to tell you whats what.
tyleryesta1 3 months ago
@tyleryesta1 So I should let you tell me whats what instead? No.
rangers94ism 3 months ago
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tyleryesta1 3 months ago
Let's be honest. If the gov released some video clearly showing a commercial aircraft hitting the Pentagon, truthers wouldn't believe it anyway. Because, of course, the video was doctored by the gov. Just like all the videos of aircraft striking the WTC. Right?
flyoverjoe 4 months ago
@flyoverjoe Releasing it after ten years, wouldn't you be suspicious? Let's face it, if there was nothing to hide they would have released the footage a long time ago.
forthome3 4 months ago
@forthome3 Fair enough. Let's pretend they did release the tapes the same day, and one clearly showed an American Airlines jet striking the Pentagon. All other events and facts surrounding the day, however, remained exactly the same. Would you have been convinced then.
flyoverjoe 4 months ago
@flyoverjoe I would believe that a plane hit the building, just like WT7. I trust what my eyes tell me. The whole point is that there are so many unanswered questions that need to be answered. Why do those with the answers keep silent? Cheney and Bush refusing to appear before the 9/11 Commision, just like 'the accused' refusing to answer questions, speaks volumes.
forthome3 4 months ago
@forthome3 Of course, not WT7, I meant 1 and 2.
forthome3 4 months ago
@forthome3 Thanks for the response.
flyoverjoe 4 months ago
@flyoverjoe what are these so called questions?
TheAlexJonesCult 3 months ago
@TheAlexJonesCult I think you meant to ask forthome3. If not, I'm not sure what you're talking about.
flyoverjoe 3 months ago
ANYONE with a bot can do this. I have a youtube bot (I'm not using it). All you need are accounts.
Herrkake 4 months ago
ITS A COMMENT CONSPIRACY!
samuelhtrowbridge 4 months ago
First anyone can fall into the either of their own theroies backed by miss-alined science, Coincidence that seems not to be just that etc. To be fair you first must accept anything is possible! Ex; life springs from nothing, nothing gives birth to something. To say it is impossible for building 7 to fall the way it did from the natural circumstances is absolutist, because the only way to believe that there is no such thing as coincidence is to belive that sometimes it just is coincidence!
VarvaraBell 4 months ago
With the towers compared to buildings that are only burning, they have not been gutted with a broad sword thrust through. Except one, not a jet and not as deep. The jets compromise and destroy large areas of the buildings structure. The second tower hit has the whole corner and side taken out almost right the way through. It falls first because it has to hold up more mass above this point along with the nature of the strike compared with how much mass the first tower must hold up. E=mc2
VarvaraBell 4 months ago
E=Mc2 on this in more detail. The equation means energy is equal to mass and vise versa, as Albert said both but different manifestations of the same thing. M=E and E=M So the huge mass of the tower translates into enough energy to make it fall, crumble the way it did at the speed it did, if you don't belive this, it is the very reason the atomic bomb is possible, a small amount of mass = large amount of energy. Once Newtons law of motion kicked in as the building began to fall, E=mc2 joined.
VarvaraBell 4 months ago
With the planes E=Mc2 along with newtons law were well at work. There were tens of thousands of joules of kinetic energy associated with the impacts, which was more than the individual columns could withstand. Then add the hundreds of giga-joules of chemical energy into the mix and the combination of the two was more than many of the individual components, which were subjected that force, could handle. Stop comparing to buildings that are just burning away, it is simply a different equation
VarvaraBell 4 months ago
Great video well said
soldatheero 4 months ago
You can ask any questions you like. The problem is that conspiracy theorists keep moving to another theory once the one they currently like is debunked. To any resonable person this speaks of a lack of credibilty. It makes it look like they NEED a conspiracy. For what reason? Good question.
bsh9616 4 months ago
Anon: Sir, all the targets have been hit.
Evil genius: Mwahaha, it's all going to plan...
Anon: There may be an unforseen problem.
Evil genius: Go on...
Anon: Well, what if some college kid analyzes old news footage, zooms up on grainy video stills, and uncovers our entire plot by reading old, unclassified government press releases and posts a video on the internet, complete with spooky/mysterious sounding music?
Evil genius: God Help Us.
euyfdvfhj 4 months ago 2
Great video !
BaneTrogdor 4 months ago
Good video imo, I agree with you. I have seen loose change and read popular mechanics. For me, a lot still does not add up. Many steel structures have burnt for hours and not collapsed - yet 2 of the most terror threatened buildings in the world crumble at freefall speed?
tcarling 4 months ago 2
@tcarling No 1 fell at "freefall"...
euyfdvfhj 4 months ago
@euyfdvfhj it was close to it. Not sure the twin towers was a conspiracy but I think the pentagon story does seem like a lot of bullshit and they are lying about something. If it is how the government says and as they have videos of it, why not just release one?
tcarling 2 months ago
@tcarling Because they don't need to? Because people accept that this is nonsense, presumably. I'm sure there's a reason all the footage is clasified, and if they can't provide anything valid then obviously that arouses conspiracy theorists. Anyhow, the government ignore this crap...if they were hiding something surely they would probably fight against conspiracies? And the loose change documentaty blinds you with facts and figures, half of which seem false...
euyfdvfhj 2 months ago
@euyfdvfhj If they released the footage it would debunk almost all conspiracy theroies.The US government has been involved in endless coverups over the years, that is just a fact. The twin towers is debatable - the pentagon incident is simple science. There is no way the 2 engines can burn up and they aren't visable in the wreckage. There is very limited damage, no way it would be like that if it was hit by a plane of that size imo.
tcarling 2 months ago
0:33 youtubers? lol i have lots of time
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ZionistsRunTheGov 5 months ago
So sad that people like you fall for this conspiracy bullshit.
bellijklh 6 months ago
6 months? THESE ASSHOLES have been posting for 10 YEARS. LOL
Same old TROLLS.
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911 Case Study: Pentagon Flight 77 your plane sir
ray4ix 7 months ago
Ah, so now there's a conspiracy theory about posters? You've got to be kidding. Wish I had a nickel for every truther nimrod who has accused me of being a gov't shill or getting paid by some black ops group, etc. No one in their right mind questions whether flight 77 hit the pentagon. Hundreds of eyewitnesses, piles of identifiable schrapnel, bodies, DNA matching, etc. You have a right to ask questions, that is guaranteed. And you have a right to EXPECT an answer, but that's it, laddie. Ta ta.
bman342 7 months ago
Thank you for your work. The people or cointelpro (counterintelligenceprogram) trolls that post regularly are exactly what you think they are. Creepy. Sherlock Holmes said that when you eliminate the impossible whatever remains however improbable is the answer. These people are paid by the government to beat the truth with a bat night and day. Plenty of amphetamines to go around for these guys. It's worse than you think. Nebraska nuclear power plant.
Daddyo930 7 months ago
The Government is paying minimum wage to welfare mothers to post negative feedback. They also call in to radio shows etc. etc.
gooty64 7 months ago
the evidence is there. you just have to open your eyes. loose change is bullshit
partisan49 8 months ago
@partisan49
So is the Official Story. It amazes me how Dam Gullible you people are.
infoseeker264 7 months ago
@infoseeker264
there will always be more questions than answers. the fact of the matter is that the majority of the claims made by loose change has been debunked and proven wrong.
partisan49 7 months ago
@partisan49
I dont agree with you. You only think it was debunked.
You should be doubting the Official Story as it is based entirely on speculation. There is NO PROOF of how the towers collapsed. They don't even have proof the fires were hot enough to soften and melt the steel. Its all based on speculation yet you believe it. Crazy!
Popular Mechanica didn't even consider all the evidence. How pathetic.
infoseeker264 7 months ago
@infoseeker264
yet youll believe all these crazy conspiracies that were pulled out of the asses of a bunch of college dropouts ok.. look into history and realize that there have always been looney conspiracy theories that have surfaced after big events such as the moon landing, jfk assassination, the death of princess diana, ad so on so forth. the facts are there, its just a matter of putting aside all of the bullshit that clouds the facts
partisan49 7 months ago
@partisan49 I NEVER said I believe any of them.
This is exactly why believers (like you) get hardly any respect. If someone questions the official story (that isn't supported by the facts) you automatically think they believe all the bullshit.
Its so childish. WHat a fool!
infoseeker264 7 months ago
@infoseeker264
oh the hypocrisy. i never said i believed everything in the official story either
it has been proven already by the majority of people in the field of physics and fire sciences that the towers collapsed because of the planes hitting them. there were no bombs inside the buildings = fact. there have even been numerous experiments that took place replicating the scenario of what happened on 9/11. questioning something is one thing but jumping to ridiculous conclusions is another.
partisan49 7 months ago
@partisan49 It hasnt been proven in the field of Physics. Are you on drugs? There are THOUSANDS of engineers that disagree.
Most Fire Investigators disagree as well.
You obviously haven't done your homework.
Nothing has been replicated. You are a FUCKING LIAR.
You DONT belong here.
infoseeker264 7 months ago
@infoseeker264
thousands my ars where do u get your sources? oh thats right, conspiracy websites.
partisan49 7 months ago
@partisan49
If you have to ask you obviously haven't been doing your research.
You also need to learn how to spell. Dumb Ass. LOL!!!
infoseeker264 7 months ago
People got to stop taking this as a joke I support this 100% and why not..there too much proof...people wake up I know is hard to agree I love this country and so does Many people.I really care I really care about people who are serving our country and our people. please help to stop this. This is a crime i know it sound hard to believe but it's the truth. I end up watching loose change and the other stuff like five times just to realize that what they was saying is the truth. Do the same and y
NewYorkRican360 9 months ago
I agree. I think the reason they don't release the footage of the plane hitting the pentagon is BECAUSE THEY DONT HAVE IT.
They haven't even ties any of the airplane part recovered at the pentagon to Flight 77.
When you look at their so-called proof, it all seems circumstantial to me.
infoseeker264 9 months ago
@infoseeker264 There is footage of the plane hitting the pentagon. DNA from almost all of the passengers on the flight 77 passenger manifest has been found at the site. There are clear photos of the crash site from the day of the attack of plane debris with the American Airlines logo on it. What more would you like?
MrMZaccone 7 months ago
@MrMZaccone
Are you for real?
There is NO PROOF. Lets see the footage of a plane hitting the pentagon. Prove it.
The DNA was NOT collected at the pentagon. It was all collected at the morgue.
Lets see the "CLEAR" photos of the wreckage. Some of the first photos (before the wall collapsed) didn't show any of this debris you are referring to. How do you explain this?
As I said before - Prove it. Let's see the proof.
infoseeker264 7 months ago
@infoseeker264 First, here's video of the plane. /watch?v=aO89HfdgKB4 I see a plane. What do you see and why? Listen to yourself. If DNA was collected at the morgue, where was the stuff that went to the morgue collected? How do I explain photos that don't show the wreckage? Show them to me and we'll see. What you're proposing is so complicated that it makes ZERO sense. The problem is I can't prove I even exist if you're unwilling to accept your senses ... It seems you are.
MrMZaccone 7 months ago
@MrMZaccone
I didn't see ANYTHING that even came close to a plane.
You are basing your WHOLE VIEW on this? You cant be serious.
I am just not that Gullible. As I said before - I want to see the PROOF.
You do realize that NONE of the plane parts recovered at the pentagon have NEVER been tied to flight 77 through serial numbers...
It would be SO SIMPLE to go back and check these serial numbers and prove they came from flight 77. They wont do it. I wonder why...
infoseeker264 7 months ago
@infoseeker264 I'm basing my whole view on the fact that however much credible "evidence" my side of the argument has, the other side has considerably less. I'm sorry you want to deal in proof. That attitude will disappoint you the rest of your life. As I've already pointed out, there is no proof, even of your own physical body. Good luck with that. My question is what do you believe (if anything) happened and what "proof" (or more appropriately "evidence") is there for that view?
MrMZaccone 7 months ago
@MrMZaccone
I am not sure what happened. I just DONT believe the official story because it is NOT BACKED UP with the FACTS. As I said before - I am NOT that gullible.
You keep talking about the "other side" having less evidence. What is that all about. I don't need evidence to question the official story. I want to see the evidence that PROVES what happened.
infoseeker264 7 months ago
@infoseeker264 So, are you saying that there's not enough evidence to believe ANY version of ANY theory?
MrMZaccone 7 months ago
@MrMZaccone
I dont even know what you are asking. I just want the truth. The evidence doesn't back the official story. Its that simple.
I am just not a gullible as you are.
infoseeker264 7 months ago
@infoseeker264 The truth doesn't exist. The closest you can come to it is the evidence. I'm not gullible at all, I'm just saying that all the available evidence points to American Airlines flight 77 hitting the pentagon on Sept. 11, 2001. 136 eyewitnesses to the plane on a collision course or the actual impact or both ... DNA and personal items from the passengers, inside the pentagon crash site ... Verified parts of a 757 at the crash site some of it marked with portions of the AA logo etc.
MrMZaccone 7 months ago
@MrMZaccone
You have to do more than just SAY IT.
Lets see the proof.
Everything that you are using as proof has been in question. Lets see the proof. Im sure there is a better image of the plane hitting the pentagon. Why else would the FBI tell the people that seen these other videos to keep silent about what they seen. It makes no sense.
infoseeker264 7 months ago
@infoseeker264 If you haven't seen what I'm talking about you haven't looked. You're head is in the sand, you have made up your mind and you won't be bothered with facts. The ONLY way to justify what you are saying is to hypothesize a HUGE conspiracy involving THOUSANDS of people. When in the history of the world has any such thing existed? Can you say ... NEVER?
MrMZaccone 7 months ago
@MrMZaccone
Again you make no sense. You change the subject to avoid the topic.
You childish little fool. You are pathetic.
infoseeker264 7 months ago
@infoseeker264 You are in fact QUITE gullible. You've been led to believe that there is insufficient evidence for the majority of the official story and YOU BELIEVE THAT'S THE CASE! You want to talk "gullible"? THAT'S gullible!
MrMZaccone 7 months ago
@MrMZaccone
LOL!!! I must have struck a nerve. Now you sound like a little child. "I know you are but what am I?" LOL!!!
Gullible and CHILDISH. Give it a break. You are only making yourself sound like a total fool.
infoseeker264 7 months ago
@infoseeker264 Gullible is completely ignoring Occam's Razor, which is exactly what you're doing.
MrMZaccone 7 months ago
@MrMZaccone
Nice try with the big words.
Big words might intimidate you but not me... I am NOT THAT GULLIBLE. LOL!!!
infoseeker264 7 months ago
@infoseeker264 Your'e not that bright either.
MrMZaccone 7 months ago
@MrMZaccone
You are a typical believer. Trying to change the subject just so you don't have to deal with the facts. you FOOL.
infoseeker264 7 months ago
@infoseeker264 How am I changing the subject? OK, I'll bite. WHAT'S THE SUBJECT?
MrMZaccone 7 months ago
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@MrMZaccone
If you dont know then you better go back to bed.
infoseeker264 7 months ago
I've watched the videos, "Loose Change", "Debunking videos", Amateur videos, simulation and analysis, eyewitness, engineer, pilots, and many others... After looking at the Original and NIST reports, I find a large number of questions that go unanswered. The National Geographic, Popular Mechanics, and some other publications, exhibit some of the worse work I've ever seen done by these publications. ...and when did these publications become experts on things like Thermate? lol
Born2Flesh 9 months ago
@Born2Flesh So, who IS an expert on thermate and what do they have to say?
MrMZaccone 7 months ago
You don't have to be an expert on thermate.....Test have already shown Thermate can cut through steel. People were using Thermate to cut through steel in their own backyards. ...but why are you asking me, when the evidence is already available, and has been available for years? This video is old, and hardly up to date on available evidence. Actually, the folks doing backyard experiments using Thermate did a far better job....and I've been a fan of PM and NG since I were a child. ...sad
Born2Flesh 7 months ago
@Born2Flesh Yeah, the problem is, it ONLY cuts vertically and the claims made concerning controlled demolition would require that it cut horizontally. I'm asking you because you said, "when did these publications become experts on things like Thermate? lol" When I challenged you on who you're using as an "expert" you cited "folks doing backyard experiments" You can't have it both ways.
MrMZaccone 7 months ago
Lol what a bunch of losers :P glad you pointed that out!
VeggieTrunks 9 months ago
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Born2Flesh 9 months ago
@Born2Flesh do you just go around peddling the same dumb fucking comment on every 9/11 related video? Or just these two?
bostonsports13243546 9 months ago
@Born2Flesh How did they match the DNA of the hijackers? Are you serious? Why don't you think before you ask a question like that. If you were going to do it, how would you go about it?
MrMZaccone 7 months ago
If the 6 ton, 9ft tall, steel and titanium engines "disintegrated" and/or "vaporized" as reported in The Official Story, how did human flesh survive for a DNA test? Four(4) Black Boxes were not found, but they found one of the terrorist I.D.? lol ...we've heard everything. Explain the changing passenger list? RELEASE THE TAPES OF THE PENTAGON! 9/11 = 100% Inside Job
Born2Flesh 7 months ago
@Born2Flesh Nobody says engines "vaporized" or "disintegrated", in fact there were engine parts from a 757 found inside the pentagon. Human flesh is mostly water and the DNA contained in such material is extremely durable. Both black boxes from flight 77 were found. Changing passenger lists? In some cases the families of victims asked that their names not be included and this request was honored. These "lists" are not the actual passenger manifest which WAS published and IS accurate.
MrMZaccone 7 months ago
Honestly its not serious. A lot of these so called questions have been answered. Why does a video need to be produced to prove that a plane crashed into the pentagon? You have pictures of aircraft parts, burnt corpses, eye wittiness. Or is this all part of the cover up too? The stuff coming out of Loose Change is full of half truths, lies, and quote mining; the kind of tactics a creationist would be proud of. This thing plays right into the hands of the US as a distraction from the real issues.
RedPenguins01 9 months ago
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Born2Flesh 9 months ago
Clearly we've all been paid to post that you're a tard. We're in on it.
AtomicHercules 9 months ago
the anti truth people are the negative ones? Correct me if I'm wrong, but the truthers are the ones who repeatedly regard everyone outside of their movement as sheeple, or zionists, or members of the illuminati, or shape shifting lizards. and as for wanting your questions answered? they've been answered over and over for years, you just don't like the answers because they're too obvious and logical.
bostonsports13243546 10 months ago
I agree with you 100% I have not watched info on loose change for a long time. I come watch the updates and debates and notice on every video someone has posted a negative.. Only, usually, a singular comment.. Put doubt in the video and the people making the comments.. All I can say is CUBAN CHRISES
RancidElf 10 months ago
problem being is that it's impossible for the top of WTC 1 to crush what supported it without the use of explosives, now ask yourself who had opportunity and motive? who would do this, then ask yourself if such people are even human? if you can explain how something gains momentum with a building in the way please do, and feed your pancakes to the dog I doubt anyone can have a linear conversation about this, you brainwashed turds
fillyferz 11 months ago
Even pointing out that some people seem to make it their job to spend their lives debunking this stuff marks you out as a CT nut. However just as we feel it's important to get people to investgate 9/11 there are those who feel it's important that you don't start believing it was an inside job. They will do everything they can to scare you off the idea.
RavenPrecept 11 months ago
They have shown the security tape of the plane hitting the Pentagon. The problem is it takes 1 frame a second and so because of the low grade quality the conspiracy theorists assume it's fake. Go to Google Videos and search Nova's "Why the Towers Fell" I think it might help you with the science.
crazykeyman 11 months ago
so the guy in the video sides with the loose change stupid kids?...or is his point jsut taht people just re-post and stuff ......
DjBobbyLosAngeles 1 year ago
well, when people reply to msgs u get an email alert, and it takes ur attention back to the page. I love how truthers demand people do the research, but they do theirs on websites like Alex Jones who is a radio personality and the LC retards. When you demand research be done, u want credible scientists and researches doing the work, not people with a predetermined agenda, thats why science leads the way. The scientists all say, The planes brought it down. Pull your head out of ur ass!
damien28173 1 year ago
you want to see some truly creepy stuff... go do research on the TINY aspects of 9/11. things that, oddly, loose change just didnt seem to cover to much, if any, degree. unfortunately this involves MANY hours of reading and studying, not 9/11 conspiracy sites, but "regular" sites and also debunking sites. if you do that, you will find much more damning evidence than any documentary will provide you. and a tip to "conspiracy theorists"--- stop fucking speculating so much. you are giving
jpp3g 1 year ago
@jpp3g
... legitimacy an extremely bad name. you don't need to speculate about ANYTHING here. just get sourced and LEGITIMATE evidence with EXTREMELY reputable sources. provide the evidence. THEN as a postscript, maybe, MAYBE, lay out a bit of a biased argument. not too biased and not to extravagant. that is the only way to get lots of people, everyday blind americans, to listen to you.
jpp3g 1 year ago
@jpp3g
I completely agree.
23456D 1 year ago
okay what about liquid metal red hot molten steel pouring out of the broken walls of the twin towers where was that answered in the report. there is video of it thats not an oppion.No one told me what it was i saw it for myself without being prompted by anyone.Have you ever read the entire commissions report. You do realize by now im sure that steel does not liquefy under temperatures anywhere near what is produced by jet fuel or office fires, check your report and get back to me.
Fantacyshroom 1 year ago
It's suspicious to you?? That's b/c you're a moron.
bahramf 1 year ago
WOW, you got issues. Critical you are not. Lost, maybe so. People really don't care about you. They just like screwing with a lost soul. Your ignorance gives them the fuel to their fire. They're just having fun with you loser. RELAX!
espiritdecorps79 1 year ago
It should be noted that popularmechanics isn't the most credible website concerning 911 information. It itself is influenced and funded by government and government related institutions. There are sites that have actually debunked its articles on 911. Go on google and search
omgiheartpie 1 year ago
The evidence they presented in the debate, the journalists who were debating, is it available to the public?
helookslikefamousppl 1 year ago
The one aspect I struggle to grasp is how can three building fall 'perfectly' without controlled demolition. One maybe a fluke, two highly unlikely, but three ( the third being an entirely different building structure lower to the ground and with a wider base )... that must be nearly impossible without human intervention. Highly educated and skilled people are paid good money and invest a lot of time ensuring a building falls in this way when required. It is an exact science.
celebritysketches 1 year ago
@celebritysketches You have to understand you have Thousands of tons of steel and whatever else was on those floors falling uniformly on top of floor after floor. Thats alot of weight , add in the fact that the steel was heated at a constant temp that would weaken and bend the steel causing it to snap and free fall at a high rate of speed. I think if the metal beams would have been rienforced with concrete it wouldn't have fell so easily.
espiritdecorps79 1 year ago
@espiritdecorps79 Look at Building 7: the strange BBC prediction of the collapse 20mins before it happened; the initial cover up that Larry Silverstein was misquoted but later LS comes out later and says he did mean controlled demolishion when he said "pulled"; finally that Building 7 could have been bought down under controlled demolition even without "raging fires" and all materials and experts on site with detailed building plans and knowledge of all the key support collums. It takes weeks.
celebritysketches 1 year ago
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Alex Jones is old news!
He is a devout christian and needs a "devil" to fight and that devil is the "illuminati" who he thinks is just one entity, pfft...
I spent about $500 US dollars to buy his dvds/merchandise and was into him for a little while but he will never talk against zionism since his wife is Jewish and half of ads supporting his show (eg: ecolo blue,etc) are jewish owned
if you want to make sence of what Alex Jones is talking about, watch to my playlists and read the info in it
impaler999 1 year ago
I did research for over 2 years and what I keep hearing insults my intelligence. when your not blinded by your wool you will see that almost all the excuses I have heard are complete bullshit to cover up the fact that this was planned by the secret government. Those buildings were blown to shit by bombs towers 1 and 2 and building 7. The lies told about the pentagon are laughable the landing gear (part rubber tires)made the hole but the titainium 12 foot engines did nothing? Who is that retared?
AlienVisitor 1 year ago
@AlienVisitor The retard would be the guy who cannot spell retard lol. That would be you. They didn't say the tires caused the whole they said the landing gear as a whole. Plus they also have photographic evidence of plane parts and piecs of twisted metal from the airplane wrapped around parts of the building. Come on you seriously don't worship the ground that loose change walks on because that ground has no evidence and thats why Popular Mechanics destroyed them in that debate.
Bcm80 1 year ago
@Bcm80 It's called a typo fagboy, PM is contolled by the assholes hiding the truth. Your just a insignificant sheep and I don't care what you think or what you say.
AlienVisitor 1 year ago
@AlienVisitor Classic truther. anytime someone proves you wrong you say the government controlled those people so obviously there evidence isn't credible. You obviously are a waste of my time. So I guess I'll go somewhere else.
Bcm80 1 year ago
look up lloyde england he is the key
pana376 1 year ago
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WinstonSmithsBrain 1 year ago
most of these questions have been answered to the best of our ability, but truthers just reject it and ask the same damn question because they aren't satisfied with answers that point to anything other than some kind of conspiracy. Yes there are still some inconsistencies because that entire day was a giant clusterfuck the likes of which the united states has not seen since pearl harbor.
tusagnamaster 1 year ago
Amazingly big structure can not fall in 7 seconds, it just can't. A little explosions on the way down. People who believe official story have to be blind or what? Is it that obvious? If there is a red cube, Avery would see it red, and other people would see it blue? Of course not. Like Avery said, Popular Mechanics DO NOT bring actual evidence of nothing at all! "We've spoken to professionals ..." Avery and Burmas can say it either ... can't they?
iiMPR3SSiiON 1 year ago
The nys museum is in my hometown, I've been there and seen things they've recovered. One guy even found a pop tart in good shape. Drugs and paraphernalia, guns,personal effects.. all kinds of small stuff survived (though not unscathed). nature is chaos. It doesn't worm the way "you would think."
Fromthestarsdown 1 year ago
That was a test... So if you payed any attention to the world before 9/11 you wouldn't have been surprised at what happened, and wouldn't be dumb enough to think that bin laden couldn't do what he did. Everything was available before 9/11 to show you what was happening. However like most people it took a traumatic event for you to even pay attention, and that's why you use video game and movie logic to pretend you know what happens in the real world.
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Fromthestarsdown 1 year ago
I don't need an expert to to tell me what I witnessed with my own eyes, 3 buildings that had pyroclastic volcanic type eruptions where beams are strewn all over Manhattan and buildings are PULVERIZED, but pristene passports are found in the rubble unscathed. You people who believe this government fairytale are a bunch of LOONS or Mossad agents because anyone with a brain knows 19 Muslim were not on a mission for Allah because they "hate our freedoms".
You've been Bushwacked case closed.
1bassman9 1 year ago 2
Popular Mechanics is a sham, how pathetic when you can even trust a mechanic magazine, it is hopeless at this point. 9/11 was a scam, a lie, a inside job.
wasy35 1 year ago 2
@wasy35 Its funny if, if Popular Mechanics agreed with all you truthers, you would be the first person to agree with them and cite them as a great source who must know what their talking about.
Now that they dont agree with you, they are fools who shouldnt be trusted. Truthers fit what works for their conclusions, then throw all the rest out with the bath water. That is called being paraniod.
marcusdolby1 1 year ago
@marcusdolby1 This reply of yours is beyond innate! I would agree/disagree with popular mechanics based on facts not anything else, you logic was hideous, shame.
wasy35 1 year ago
@wasy35 You base it on the facts? What facts are you talking about? The ones that loose change brings up? Facts huh? Just like the guys from PM say..... truthers have no real facts. Just speculation and rumor. All the suposed experts they talk about arent experts at all. Sorry to inform you but........ your niave and have been conned into believing a paraniod story of attention seekers and money makers. Stop being brainwashed and open up your trolling eyes.
marcusdolby1 1 year ago
@marcusdolby1 you should look at national security sensitive info the investigator interviews 3 cops and a former pilot that were witnesses to the plane flying south of columbia ave making it impossible for the plane to hit the 4 downed light poles on the road and they interview taxi driver that was on the scene which confesess to planting evidence. i think that you are the brainwashed. I encorage free people to ask the hard question and not to believe the media they all lie
pana376 1 year ago
@marcusdolby1 what do you do for a living? I ask cuz most people that are so sure of the official story work in a gov office and are afraid to see the truth
pana376 1 year ago
@marcusdolby1 I think you are paranoid with the fact that it bothers you so much that the 9/11 truth movement is winning. I bet you voted for Bush twice. I bet you still think he was a good president. You only have 1 favorite video and you don't even have any uploads. Did you just create an account to try to convince people that the government is telling the truth about 9/11? I have yet to hear someone try to debunk WTC 7. Look up Mandarin Hotel Fire.
jrhd00d84 1 year ago
@jrhd00d84 I have a favorite video? Thats the first I know about it. Nope, didnt vote for bush twice, voted for them 4 times.
But the fact you try and discredit bush proves you have an agenda, Put down the hate, and maybe you could have an open slate to look at 911. It seems like you have already come up with what happend that day and nothing will change your mind.
That is called reverse phycology and you have it. BTW, I also voted for Obama, but that turned out to be a mistake.
marcusdolby1 1 year ago
I agree! I was watching it open-mindedly, as I assumed Popular Mechanics would have good rebuttals, but they didn't, just a lot of stammering and attempts at dissuasion. All the time I couldn't help wondering who was paying them, whereas my intellect and gut instinct told me that the guys from Loose Change were legitimate and sincere in their efforts to bring the truth to light. - Thank you for posting this video. Its nice to know there are still some sane rational people in the world!
crct2004 1 year ago
To anyone watching this video, the person who made this video is a great example of the mind of a conspiracy theorist.
2edsajdmsa 1 year ago 2
@2edsajdmsa why is it wrong to ask questions? are you afraid of the answers. there are cases in the courts that are so trivial its ridicoulus and the case that should be investigated so exoustly was closed so quick which in it self makes the governments reaction suspisiuos. they covered the pentagon lawn the next week from the attack isnt that a crime scene it still should be under investigation
pana376 1 year ago
@2edsajdmsa the fact that people try to use the words "conspiracy theorist" as a way to discredit others is insulting and a pathetic argument. You are a great example of someone who likes to call people names to discredit them.
jrhd00d84 1 year ago
the proof HAVE been out there a long time.....loose change teens only have questions NOT facts like in depunking911, there is all answers for all conpiracy theory freaks
gangones 1 year ago
@gangones what do you do for a living? cuz there are MIT scientists that are saying there should be an investigation cuz the science dont match up. one Law can never be broken by no one and thats the law of physics
pana376 1 year ago 2
i watched 9/11 conspiracies: fact of fiction on the history channel. after that i will never be a "truther"
kevinanthony777 1 year ago
@kevinanthony777 all the experiments on that show was like comparing apples and oranges none had any similarities to each other
pana376 1 year ago
Agreed man !
ybou44 1 year ago
I Agree with you man.
I feel strange that even if you think that "loose change" is stupid and that those kids are no good you can't just try to ignore the fact that there are some very strange coincidences.
Anyway someone who is SO sure that there was NOTHING weird going on and who believes everything the government says ignoring ALL the interogations of others very naive or just an idiot.
ybou44 1 year ago 5
when i watch the debate i see 5 jews sitting at a table. 2 jews claim the christians did it(bush cheney ect) 2 jews claim the muslims did it(bin laden) and 1 jew in the middle(amy) claims she is trying to hold a 'fair' debate. very interesting considering all evidence points to israel and jews in PNAC as the guilty ones. all this 'internet thug trolling' by the same people indicates that there is a deliberate attempt to silence any objection to the 'official story'. watch "missing links"
MrUncomfortableTruth 1 year ago
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What questions are you demanding to be answered? Have you even read the 9/11 commission report? Probably not.
Every piece of "evidence" that the loose change kids bring up can be DESTROYED by factual evidence. So WHAT questions are you demanding to be answered?
Stop being a sheep and believing everything you hear on a conspiracy video.
Did you know that the same kids who made loose change also believe that george h w bush was behind the kennedy assassination and that we never landed on the moon?
coldbedsheets 1 year ago
@coldbedsheets
Yes of course I've read the commission report (in fact I've reread it recently). I certainly don't believe everything in Loose Change, but US support for Bin Laden and Pakistani support for Atta are both sound pieces of evidence. The commission report saying that the financing of the attack was "of little practical significance" as well as Kean himself saying the CIA's blocking of information undermined the integrity of the final report are OBVIOUS issues you'd be wrong to ignore.
23456D 1 year ago
@coldbedsheets
Especially if every assumption made by NIST as regards the collapse initiation of all three buildings is correct, that means a meager amount of steel melting incendiary could also do what they're saying fire was able to do, so I want a side by side comparison (ie, what would it have looked like if the earth DID revolve around the sun).
Also, just because someone says "No one landed on the moon" it doesn't make them wrong if they say "The moon is NOT made of cheese".
23456D 1 year ago
@23456D "...it doesn't make them wrong.."
And a broken clock shows correct time twice a day.
The notion that if even only a fraction of what they purport is true, then a new investigation is warranted is a well-known tenet of 9/11 "truth". What's lost on the truthers is the fact that if you say one hundred demonstrably false things (and do willfully continue to repeat them after they are proven as such), then it matters little if you accidentally stumble upon one or two unanswered "questions".
falconApoda 1 year ago
@falconApoda
long time old friend. I don't disagree, many jeopardize their credibility by repeating spurious answers. And indeed, it distracts/detracts from any legitimate issues they may be raising.
I strongly believe the "leaders" of the 9/11 truth movement (like Rudowski of We Are Change) aren't just unfortunate blathering front men- they are placed (unwittingly I suspect in his case) at the fore by infiltrating elements to make sure no one hears the one or two unanswered "questions".
23456D 1 year ago
@23456D "...the "leaders" of the 9/11 truth movement (like Rudowski of We Are Change)..."
Did you know that Korey Rowe (one of the "Loose Change" producers) just got busted for dealing herion? Not using. Dealing. Heroin.
Google it.
Waiting for the first truther claims that he was set up by "infiltrating elements". I give it about a day or so.
falconApoda 1 year ago
@falconApoda
No, I hadn't heard about that. That's shitty. You're suggesting (that others will suggest) that he got honey potted? That kind of thing does happen. I have no opinion (like I said, I didn't know anything about it). I've been away from all this pretty much since I spoke with you last. Regardless, even a heroin dealing stopped clock, right? My point before was that (infiltration or just assholedom) "organized" 9/11 truth IS the conversation rather than IMO healthier skepticism.
23456D 1 year ago
@23456D
That being said, I was as eager as others to err on the side of what I saw as caution 6 years ago, and erred indubitably in enough ways to undermine conversations with people about 9/11. Hrm. At least I'm not into heroin I suppose. Signing out again for a while, but message me if there's an interesting conversation going on somewhere. Peace Apoda.
23456D 1 year ago
@falconApoda "Did you know that Korey Rowe (one of the "Loose Change" producers) just got busted for dealing herion? Not using. Dealing. Heroin." So fucking what IF he did.That has nothing to do with 911 asshole.That's a typical republicunt tactic of making the "enemy" look bad.Just like the Swiftboat Veterans against Kerry. EVERYTHING THEY SAID WERE FUCKING LIES.& it cost Kerry the election.He's an asshole too though-just like the LYING MURDERING BUSH'S.
ed11561 11 months ago
@ed11561 "So fucking what..."
So fucking plenty.
"That has nothing to do with 911..."
Neither did Rowe's film, "Loose Change" (fact-wise), but that didn't stop him and his co-horts from attempting to make a living off the deaths of 3000 American citizens peddling that video filled with lies and demonstrable falsehoods about the attack which took their lives. Apparently, this hasn't worked out too well, and so the filmmakers (one of them, anyway), have turned to pushing another sort of opiate.
falconApoda 11 months ago
@falconApoda All those films are free asshole.Every fucking 1 of them.Loose Change started dozens of truth groups loser. It had everything to do with 911 asshole. Go buy a brain asswipe.
ed11561 11 months ago
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@ed11561 "It had everything to do with 911..."
Yes, I believe they got the date of the attack correct. That's about all, though.
falconApoda 11 months ago
@falconApoda Did you know that Korey Rowe (one of the "Loose Change" producers) just got busted for dealing herion? Not using. Dealing. Heroin.
SOURCE?? ACTUAL SOURCE & NOT A BLOG??? MAYBE A POLICE REPORT?
BTW did you know BUSH was charged with RAPE? What does that have to do with 911 schmuck? NOTHING.
Bush was also charged with INSIDER TRADING BY THE SEC just before he became president.HE'S A FUCKING LYING SCUMBAG CROOK who was schemed into the presidency.
ed11561 11 months ago
@ed11561 "SOURCE??"
If it's so meaningless as you suggest, then why are you so desperately attempting to cast doubt on the story? It's because you know it is absolutely true, that's why.
In any case, and though it may have little to do with 9/11, per se, it does have everything to do with the cottage industry known as "9/11 truth". One of the main stalwarts thereof has been busted dealing in narcotics. Kinda fitting, if you think about it.
"BTW did you..."
Did not know, do not care.
falconApoda 11 months ago
@falconApoda SOURCE ASSHOLE Do you know the word asswipe? SOURCE EXACTLY
You dumb fuck.You quote "A BLOG" LOL LMFAO One of the main stalwarts thereof has been busted dealing in narcotics. Kinda fitting, if you think about it.
PROVE IT YOU LYING FUCK-NOT FROM A BLOG ASSHOLE.
Show me PROOF.A newsstory-A POLICE REPORT- something douchbag-not a blog u moronic useless piece of shit. lol
ed11561 11 months ago
@ed11561 "You quote "A BLOG" LOL..."
It's been in the news. Here:
tinyurl[dot]com/48wsorl
There's also a story in the Toronto Sun and the New York Daily News. The whole thing is a matter of public record, but you can continue to pretend that it never happened if you want.
lol.
falconApoda 11 months ago
@falconApoda You should read the comments genius. Getting busted for heroin has nothing to do with a documentary made what 5 years ago? LOL fucking loser..
BUSH was charged with RAPE but he was still schemed into the presidency. lol
I don't pretend things don't happen if they did asshole. I'm not like the schmucks who believe the government lies.
BTW do you have any idea how many GI's are addicted to heroin? Probably not. In VietNam-Iraq&afghanistan.
ed11561 11 months ago
@ed11561 "Getting busted for heroin has nothing to do with..."
Then why were you so adamant that I provide a source? If one has nothing to do with the other, then why not simply admit that, yes, it's true that one of the creators of one of the most influential documentaries to come out of the 9/11 "truth" cult did recently get busted for pushing heroin?
Just admit it. Korey Rowe is a major stalwart within truthdorkdom. And he just got nailed for drug dealing.
That's not so hard, is it?
falconApoda 11 months ago
@falconApoda Hey asshole if Korey Rowe got busted for heroin-it's either a fact or another way for the government to discredit him.Which 1 it is -i have no idea BUT IT DOESN'T MATTER YOU MORONIC ASSHOLE.
1 Kid is not the entire truth movement & he did not make the film himself you stupid fuck. LOL what a loser you are.
truthdorkdom? Boy u r 1 pitiful fuck.
BUSH WAS CHARGED WITH RAPE ASSHOLE- did that mean he couldn't become president schmuck? He did asshole.lol sorry to say.
ed11561 11 months ago
@ed11561 "if Korey Rowe got busted..."
This is indisputable.
"BUSH WAS CHARGED..."
Do you think I'm some sort of Bush-loving Republican? In fact, most people I know don't care much for 43. Some have argued that he or others in his administration might have been subject to impeachment following 9/11, but that this train abruptly left the station as soon as the 9/11 conspiracy kooks started filling up the platform.
So according to them, it's the fault of truthers that Bush remained in office.
falconApoda 11 months ago
@falconApoda That whole comment was moronic.You bring up Korey Rowe & when i put your dumb comment to shame by MAKING SENSE then you turn it all around like the schmuck that you are,
Conspiracy Kooks are assholes like you that believe the moronic tale of 19 muslim hijackers & the official GOVERNMENT CONSPIRACY THEORY.You have to be a fucking half-witted moron to believe anything the government swore to.But we know that you are just that.Talk was of impeachment moron.
ed11561 11 months ago
@falconApoda tinyurl[dot]com/488lfhb very conveniently revised list,-barely legible & if u don't think the airlines were up to their ass in a fucking cover-up then you are dumber than even i thought.As a matter of fact the FAA was SUPPOSEDLY WARNED about terrorists & hijackings and did ABSOLUTELY NOTHING ABOUT the information.No warnings to anyone at anytime.
BTW what kind of asshole would be against The truth movement wanting to find out the TRUTH about what REALLY HAPPENED.asshole.
ed11561 11 months ago
@ed11561 "...tinyurl[dot]com/488lfhb very conveniently revised.."
So you believe the list you said was released by the airlines (who you indicate were in on the cover-up) is an accurate representation of who was on the planes, but you don't believe the passenger manifests (released by the very same airlines) are?
You cite the airlines when (you think) they support your position, but then you dismiss them when it's clear that they don't? Is that how it works, ed?
What a joke.
falconApoda 11 months ago
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@falconApoda So you believe the list you said was released by the airlines (who you indicate were in on the cover-up) is an accurate representation of who was on the planes, but you don't believe the passenger manifests (released by the very same airlines) are?
DAYS OR WEEKS LATER ASSHOLE? LOL FUCK OFF dipshit.YOU are the joke asshole.
ed11561 11 months ago
@falconApoda BY THE WAY READ A BOOK ASSWIPE. It might bring you up to the Moron category.
911 LIES
Crossing the rubicon
911 Synthetic Terror.
And 200 other books loser
ed11561 11 months ago
@falconApoda it's because the released list was the victim list and the passenger list was not released. the highjackers were not on the victim list.
AtomicHercules 9 months ago
@AtomicHercules I know this, and you know this. I just wanted to see if ed would catch on.
falconApoda 9 months ago
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@ed11561 "...how many GI's are addicted..?"
Do you think that I'm making some sort of judgement about Korey Rowe and/or recreational drug use?
If you would bother to read, my whole point was about how the *truthkook* community would respond to this news... how they would immediately proclaim Rowe's innocence and suggest that he was somehow set up by the Powers That Be because of his views on 9/11. Or that the story was fake.
Gee... I wonder where I would have ever gotten such an idea, ED.
falconApoda 11 months ago
@coldbedsheets
I think everyone agrees that we have OBVIOUSLY not been given the whole truth and nothing but the truth about 9/11. People differ on what they think did happen, and it's convenient to have straw men to shake your fist at and abdicate responsibility to address the shortcomings of the explanation we've been given. Thus here you come telling me what I believe rather than dealing with what I'm saying to you. This kind of illogic only holds up (tenuously) on the internet.
23456D 1 year ago
@23456D
All i am saying is that there is OVERWHELMING evidence concluding that the attacks were not planned by our government, and were just planned by usual radical islamic terrorists. It happens.
coldbedsheets 1 year ago
@coldbedsheets
No i haven't read the 9/11 commission report but i was pretty convinced after watching loose change.Though I definitely believe that ALOT of the evidence that Loose Changes brings up is extremely circumstantial, I still believe that there are a lot of excellent questions that were brought up in the video. I . I believe that the Government has only told us half of what is to be told. But you shouldn't troll and everyone should have the right to ask questions.
sammynfhdpc 1 year ago