This is not a "viable" comparison. If it were, you would have the same model for both calibers, there would be no wind to throw shot, same scope on both rifles, and not muzzle breaks.
I call this bull shit you are no shooter. Your shooting technique is crap and not even on a amateur level. The rem 710 is a crap gun but a 100 yards you can get 11/2 moa like my 7 year old sun can.If you wont to know what round is more accurate look at the round that has more wins than any other in f class witch is a .308. But going buy how you shoot and what you say you are i call you a liar. I would pull this video off if i were you and never show it to any one. Be glad you dont show your face
Ahh The return of the amchair expert, well now I know, this was very convincing and scientific. all you need to do is pull that thing on your face up a few more inches and we will have a result
Thanks for upload. From What I seen. The 710 is junk. With a group like that i would say not so much. Could you do more test with same models. Also what about doing the same bullet. maybe a different grain but same type like a boat tail bullet. Any thoughts where you could do more?
nice target did you find it in a dumpster,you can't say witch round is more accurate by shooting only one brand of ammo.also your not using a bench rest
wow that was so shit it wasn't funny. A couple probs is that the winds blowin, you didn't tell us what ammo brand your using. who knows he may shoot shit ammo cough splutter federal powershoks in the 3006 and good ammo in the 308. also you used a a bipod for aiming i recommend a benchrest. lastly you didn't tell us which model model 700 it was. for all we know it could be a 700 sps against a26 inch varmint barrel
"I mean, I really like this rifle; it's a piece of shit."
This test proved nothing other than you think the Taliban and other Terrorists are out to get you which is why you need to protect your identity. You're a Tactical Tool wearing Camo for no reason and driving a 1979 Chev Pickup. What's it like playing X-Box in Mom's Basement Big Shooter?
A Surgical Shooter who can shoot 5 inch groups at a hundred yards must be some kind of Ballistics God and be a major asset to any Sniper Squad.
im pretty sure if you fired from a stable platform instead of from the back of a blazer in the wind you probably would have had a better grouping with both fire arms, try shooting from a prone position on the ground you'll probably have better results
neither one is "more accurate" than the other. every round has the capability to be perfectly accurate at all times, no point in doing something like this. you might feel you shoot one better than the other, but at the end of the day there's no real difference when it comes to hitting paper
We appreciate your time, thats for sure, but it's a very unscientific test, and therefore proves very little as far as true accuracy is concerned. Different rifles, varying windspeed, your personal variations on each shot, and so forth.
So, much appreciated, but not at all a truthful comparison.
i think this a good topic but it should have been done with two of the same rifles. my 30-06 can punch shotgun shells at 200 over and over. my friends 308 cant. not sayin either is better but if you have a good quality gun either will be great. if you are goin for hunting both are great. the 308 has less impact energy but i can reach 1000 yard with both and hit a man sized target. the militery has relied on the 308 for a long time because it is cheaper but still reahes out.
In the beginning of the video he made it sound like ''this is it, once for all i'm gonna prove which 1 is more accurate''. Two different model rifles, shooting out of a truck, very windy and shooting at the blank paper....VERY PROFESSIONAL
He seems like one of those guys who buys all the big name rifles that everyone talks about but doesn't know how to shoot any of them..... kudos to his friend for "zeroing" it for him so he can put on his ACU's(oh what a marine) and act like he can shoot...
that is terrible with a 30-06 i have gotten my shots touching with a remington 700 odd 6 out to 250 yards i can shoot the same with my savage .22 with a heavy barrel out to 100 yards
you suck balls if thats how you shoot at 100 yards ive shot groups like that with my .223 at 300 yards you dont even know what your doing in the first place............
@rosshane oh i can lol looks to be two DIFFERENT remington rifles, one a 700, .308, the other a 710,.30-06 (which is a horrible rifle compared to the 700), the 700 has a muzzle break, not nearly adequate target nor resting position to be comparing accuracy, should i keep going? lol
not being a dick bro but i did the exact same test at 200m, had tighter groups with 5 shots each and got a different result.... it was razer close but the 30-06 outdid the 308 by about 1/8in on the grouping test, .. both groups were about 2-2.5in. but on the rapid shoot...3 shots in rapid succession..,the 308 won by a good bit sooooo im gonna say its really a personal preference, either way both good rds. i perfer the 308 normally but im gonna start gettin a few rds of 30-06 goin now too ...
Oh damn! I just picked up a Savage Axis XP .308 from my local sporting goods store today. the price was $352.00 out the door. i was going to go with a Remington 770 Series. However - after doing my due dilligence on research/ hearing alll the horror stories about the Rem 770 I then opted not to even consider the 770 a choice. From what I found is, barrels overheating/spliting, terrible bolt action, sticky bolt action, ETC!,,,FUGGETABOUTIT!!!!!
fuck of you were in the army.... the rifle is shit, and the target... snipers don’t hold the rifle the way you do...and get beater groups this is shit u can’t shoot for shit.... take your fucking mask of so I can see your face.. Fucking nice gropes Lolls if it was ta 600yds.... and I’ve shoot .5 moa groups with both 30 06 and 308.. YOU CANT SHOOT FOR SHIT...
I can't believe you qualified expert in the Marine Corps with a grouping that size. At 100 YDS your group shouldn't be any bigger than about 4 inches. Granted you are shooting it what sounds like a 20 MPH wind and from the bed of a truck, which the Marines should have taught you was a terrible place to shoot from.
No mention of bullet weight, barrel twist, the heavy crosswinds. Not even to mention you should be shooting military weapons like a Springfield. A showdown between the 03A3 and the M1A would have been killer.
First, different rifles for either caliber will not do. Second, the groups were not tight enough as I would expect from a SPS at 100 yards. Third, is it the same type of rounds for comparison?
i was thinking that this guy was a scrub like one of those airsofters wearing all that camo and shit and then once he said he shot expert in the marine corps and national guard i realized there shall be no fuckery in this video.
The Truth is there Either one of these bullets are very accurate, either one can be more accurate based on The build of the Rifle and a quality handload......... My Preference, The'06 is in an a built rifle with a free-floating barrel a synthetic Glass bedded stock a light trigger and a tight twist on the barrel probably at least a 1 in 9 ":of course you have to match the round to your barrel". Then I would handload some good tight rounds quality brass not more than 150 grains for accuracy...
first off, at 425 yards i have a 8 inch grouping with my 180 grain remington 7400 series 30-06. second of all for a marine your shooting sucks. no offense
and third just imagine how bad it would hurt if your bolt flew out and caught you in the cheek bone after firing a round.
i don't think you mentioned if you were shooting factory ammo or reloads. have you tried reloading? At about a dollar a shot when it's in stock for 30-06, i figured that trying to find the most accurate factory ammunition would cost much more than handloading. my worst grouping test load was about the spread on your 30-06 test. i think both of your rifles could've performed more accurately, especially with your training
I'm sorry sir but at 100yds with a rem 700. 30-06 with hornady interlock 150grain ammunition me and my father have made groups the size of a 50 cent piece I'm not insulting u but it doesn't appear that you are a verh good shot to me but thata my oppion based on the actions I have seen and done myself
@brianbodenmiller i totally agree with you my 30-06 walks all over either of his guns. i dont know what you shoot but i shoot a remington 7400 30-06 which is semi auto and i can go upto 425 yards out in wyoming. i actually got a buffalo at that range. 413.7 yards he was at
Holy FUCK!!! First off your target paper didn t give you a point of aim!! Second ,A remington 710 bolt is a cheap piece of shit rifle, use a upgraded 700 or something and you never said what type of 308 or 30-06 ammo brand you were using?? LIke for example a 30-06 xp3 or nossler partition will shot better than a power point!! A 270 win or wsm groups much better than either 308 or 30-06.
A good article on this topic can be found at riflemansjournal on blogspot in the April 2011 archive called Cartridges: Sibling Rivalry: .308 vs. .30-06.
The long and the short of it:
Over 600 yards the .308 is 0.3% more accurate and over 1000 yards the .30-06 is 0.4% more accurate. The reason for this is that at that range the .308 is perilously close to the transonic barrier while the .30-06 stays comfortably above it.
Both guns have their qualities. I own both and both are very accurate. If both guns are equally built with same trigger set and shot from a support such as sand bags at a good solid bench then it is possible to compare. Are these loads factory ammo or hand loads? Are the bullet weights the same? What are the velocities? I hand load and can design a load to fit my specific rifles and they will shoot very accurate. My preference is the 06 but my 308 BDL sure is a sweet shooter.
Here is some constructive criticism. A true test of comparative accuracy should be done off sandbags, not a bipod. Secondly, you need a point of reference on your target, you show how PRECISE the rifles are but not how ACCURATE they are. Furthermore, I am on board with you on not buying anything Remington but the 700. But it is a well put together video man.
Every round can be in accurate and accurate depends on the loads, bullet. COL, and the twist and length of the barrel. I got alot of guns to shoot under half and inch with handloads.
Load your bipod the same amount everytime and you will get tighter groups. Thanks for the comparison but seems like that time in the National Guard has diminished your accuracy skill. Semper Fi.
I think you just pulled two rounds with the .30-06 The groupings are quite similar save one shot. Next time mark two spots that you're aiming at so you can see which ones are closer to the center point.
@jam13df my dad was a sniper in the ARMYand i've seen him put 3 rounds inside of each other at 250 yards with a shitty old winchester 30/06.im sure he can do it farther than that with thr rifle and scope he was trained with.i've seen him hit quarters at 300 yds.he does it so easily it pisses me off.this guy in the video is full of shit.
@ ANGLICO- Machine fires the weapon, no trigger invlolved. I'd can't really hold a 2 inch group even at the 300. For those resluts, which were in the 60's mind you, weapon is in a heavy vice with special firing mechanism under optimum conditions. Same as we test today. Only way to determine accuracy of a round. You test the round, you test the rifle, the shooter is a variable so he is left out. 30 06 was tested in same set up, to this day it never got close to 308 groups.
it would be better to say the the .308 is GENERALLY more accurate than the 06. because depending on the ammo your shooting, it wont always have tighter groups. but when it comes down to it, for general hunting of deer for example, the 308 is more typically more accurate, but the 06 is plenty accurate enough to do the job just as well
the 30-06 was a 770 and the 308 was a 700 the 700 is a much more accurate and reliable gun vs. the 770... also the test should have been done on a sighting rack instead of a prone position... you should also use the sighing paper soo you can Aline the scope correctly instead of a blank piece of computer paper... and to top it off you should use the same gun and same scope and have them professionally sighted.... in 15 this is just common sence
umm a suggestion... you might try a stock... on both... that has a free float barrel condition. You'll see alot more accuracy. but you prob. know that.
I have shot both WinM70 - 30-06 and 308. In my books, the guy behind it, is the issue. I dont shoot blank paper. Your eye needs to see something, to focus on. Using peep sights, your eye picks it up and draws the shot.
a have a 710 and i hate it. it is crap. the bolt never came out like yours so i guess the lever is doing its job on mine. it costs me 419 with scope (cheap bushnell). the bolt slides and locks like shit. nothing smooth there. but i have to say it is accurate even if it is a crappy rifle....
Was somebody jumping on the hood? Just kidding. 30 06 was proven inferior once 308 Winchester was introduced at the high power championships. 30 06 disappeared from matches in the 60's for good reason. By mid 1960's the 308 proved to be 60% more accurate with 40 shot groups under 2 inches at the 600 yardline. 30 06 to this day never approched this feat. V ring dimensions had to be cut in half for the 308 because there were too many ties at the matches. case closed-
@lingbopper88 I sure like to who pulled the trigger. you under 2" at 600yrds = thats less than .10MOA at 100yrds. thats bull there is no way you take 40 shots at 600yrd and get less than a 2" group. Mother nature would of spread that shot group. If you can out guess mother nature 40 times you are a walking God. Put to y'all this way. Not even Carlos Hathcock could of pull that off. But .308win is better than 30-06
@ANGLICOMarine1 weapons are in a vice with mechanical firing mechanisms for military accuracy testing. not even a trigget to be pulled. also tested indoors so mother nature stays outside. You are correct, I doubt a shooter could pull of 40 shots that tight but under good conditions I have seen pretty close to it at Camp Perry service matches.
ok guys quit rippin on this guy they wernt the best groups but they wernt bad either, they all made it on target, the wind was blowing all to hell if u couldent hear it so relax pple, nice video sir, keep'em comin
@randomness8895 100yrds = no wind value, meaning no DOPE change is needed or at 100yrds even a strong winds at full value are not going to affect point of impact. The reason i cant let it go is because Marine Rifle Expert are pretty good shots I should know i never shot anything less than that.
for a Marine, your skill that you displayed suck. Its KD, Stationary Target, No Time Limit. Come on. I have a Mossberg 100ATR 30-06 Redfield 3-9x40 custom ammo: win case, fed 210 primer, 150gr Barnes TTSX Bullet, 2780fps. And I shoot less than .75 MOA at 100yrds. 300yrd less than 3" a part. 30-06 is plenty accurate. you just suck and can't handle the recoil. Apply the basic principles of marksmanship you jerk. My opinion .308 is better because it kicks less while having similar ballistics
what bullet weight did you use. 150gn in both would give the 308 a slight advantage due to rate of twist in barrel. If use a 165 or 168gn in the '06 and the same or the 150 in the 308 I beleave you would have a different result, nmho
yeah dude ur dumb as shit man look at all the un controlled variables that are present different rifles, they were not in a vice plus the fact u such dick a shooting well thats about it if you want lesson on how to shoot let me know
My Ruger 10-22 does that well at 100 rds. You have a loose scope? How are you comparing the accuracy of two different calibers while using two different rifles? You need a pair of Rem 700's in same configuration, one in 308 and the other in 30-06, then you need both bullets in same weight to ever have a chance at finding out which one does what.
Where was your target? At 100 yards that's not very Marine like(Grouping). In this case at 100 yards I would take my M4 with iron sights. Not trying to bash you. Maybe I should post a video of my Browning A bolt .30-06 at 100 yards. Army might have gotten you a little rusty. ONE SHOT, ONE KILL.
you would of had better goups if you would of shot from the ground. the wind could of been rocking your truck and throwing off your bullets at 100 yards. even if it was only 1/32 of a inch, it could effect over 1 inch at 100 yards. it also seems your bi-pod is about a inch or 2 to tall for you. let the bi-pod do the holding up the forarm. use both arms to stabilise the stock .. nice rifles and good shooting.. stay safe, and let it rain!!
There's no difference in intrinsic accuracy of the two, it's entirely dependant on the rifle they are fired from.
And that guy's 100 yard groups are pathetic, jebus he's using a bipod and big-oh scope, those rifles should be doing MOA and getting 1" groups at 100 yards.
Hey Dumb ass, a -06 bullet and a 308 but are not always the same. 308 is usually a 150 grain and a -06 Bullet is usually 165 grain. However, a -06 can shoot a 150 grain bullet.
it doesnt matter what gun you use there all accurate it just matters on wind and how much you shake fuck this dude! id like to see him against my aught 6
i love seeing how people think savage, browning, etc are better than remington. First of all the M24 for example is based off the remington 700. Also that guy isnt a marksman, if u put an actual sniper behind a remington 700 he would probably have 1 inch groupings at 100 yards
That kind of grouping at 100 yards on a windy day isnt too bad. But watch the breathing and sight picture. You have a scope on that thing. Should be even tighter.
I have grouping like that with the M16 and M4. iron sight or Red dot CompM4
I kind of hope these are the shooters the military is training for the take-over of USA as planned in COG. They'll fold up like a card table against good shooters. I have to say I learned a lot more from civilians than I did in the infantry I'm sure it's worse today.
You should be shooting inside of 1moa@100 yards and since it's every 1.04" per 100 yards per 1moa that means your shots should almost touch. The bullets interchange between both cases 30.06 and 308 use same rifling for same grain weight. 30.06 was designed for cordite and 308 was designed for more powerful pressure. Under matching conditions they are nearly identical out to 500 yards where 30.06 starts to out accelerate 308. My 7.62x39 shoots 1.5 and less as tested with 600 rounds with 10x40scp
You didn't answer it 1 bit. Both rounds are more accurate than the shooter. Clamp both of them down. Shoot Match or Mach (Whatever you call it) make sure its surely clamped down, then you can answer it.
Hey i have a Tikka T3 lite in the 7mm-08 caliber. Its a 308 casing necked down to a 7mm. At 100 yards I shoot easily 1 inch groups. i would recommend that you would get a Tikka. They guarantee 1 inch groups at 100 yards. I hand load my ammo and i get about 3/4 inch groups to about 1/2 inch groups. I'm only 15 years old and i never been in the army. You have like 4 inch groups.You should be shooting better than that.
Those groups were rubbish. But then again they were shot with a remington......if my Tikka or Sako shot like that, I would throw it off a bridge. And yeah I AM saying the Remington is rubbish, just look at the damn bolt flapping around in the breeze on ejection. What a piece of low cost junk!
Man, I havent won ANY awards nor am i an expert by any means, but i guarantee i can shoot a MUCH tighter group then that at the EXACT same range in what would appear to be the EXACT same conditions without any comforts. Hmmm, maybe i should be recruited.
@Sniper0Sigma ya i wrote my innitials in a paper target at 150 yards. 115 rounds out of my 30 carbine with iron sights. i hit all of them perfectly and i guess i just wanted to see if i could do it.
I expect them to actually live up to that authority. You sire have not. All I see here is a guy who got a few awards at one point in his life trying to chime in on an issue that should be left to actual experts who can run proper experiments and not just take pop shots. Also next time try having a standard center to target and make sure you zero each rifle in first.
point of my story is, those two rounds are so similar the real difference comes down to rifle and shooter. In the end of the day you just aren't that good. I don't care what you say you've earned that doesn't mean squat for this comparison. Those groups weren't good, both those rifles and calibers you shot could and have done better. this comparison only shows which rifle fits you best. I will apologize for the harshness, but when someone says they have the authority to decide an issue
as stated before by a lot of people, when you do a comparison test use the style of rifle and use a rifle stand. Everything about this test throws up red flags. You relay on your own skill.. Problem with that is you aren't as good as you think. I've seen a rem 710 in 30-06 put rem 700 .308 with a floated bull barrel to shame. Granted that day the shooter was to blame but a cheap 710 in .30-06 could get 3 rounds touching where a rifle that should be better couldn't.
awsome vid but buy browning, remington rifles are good but like u said about the bolt lets hope the guy that is covering me in a fire fight doesnt have the same problem with his bolt. You would think a hi end gun maker like reington would fix this, this isnt the first i have heard of this. I have also heard of the same model firing by just chambering the round
@laladoodieincarnate yes, its stock is flimsy as with all but there are less options for upgrading, stick to a good 7oo base model, worth every penny.
shooting by shoulder and not a mechanized system leaves alot of room for error. along with different brand and style rifles...this test i dont think is a valid one.
im no expert but the authors of my reloading handbook are and according to them a .308 has a velocity between 2300fps and 2800 vs. .30-06 2500fps - 3000fps... however a .30-06 for a m1 garand has a velocity of 2400fps -2750 (all comparisons made with 155 gain bullet) source: Hornady handbook of Cartridge reloading
the projectiles from both cartridges are exactly the same, im not incline to believe that a deference of less than 200 fps made that kind of a deference @100yards
oh, by the way, i did not see you compensate for the two first cold bore shots that are going to have a completely different point of impact than the following shots. you did not do this on either rifle. do you have a data book for either rifle? if you do then you would already have what is called a cold bore deviation sheet that would give the exact measurements and changes in the point of impact. i am a huge remington fan, but... the 710 is not the best...at all
Remington 700 rifle 308 with muzzle brake , vs Remington budget 710 30-06 w/out muzzle brake ? Really this is fair to compare, not so ! Get a better 30-06, Savage 110 , or Browning
A bolt and try this again . Long lived 30-06 Rules !
and i am just a avid hunting and do it yourself gun smith,and from what i seen i would hate to have you reprosenting a so call gunsman for my country.goodluck and you really need to practice.....alot!
thats total bull,i have then two rifles but different brands,and all my rifles will shot m.o.a,and if not it gets sold.but after lapping the rings,floating the barrel,bedding the action and adjusting the trigger will useually make it happen..you seem to be a little confused trying to compare a 700 to a 710.thats like comparing a lexus to a corolla.next time use the same rifle to make your theory more plausable.cause you proved nothing here.i have a savage the will put both of your rifles to sham
Aaron, nice shooting - silky triggered! I need a good shoulder cushion for my abolt 270wsm - oh well, just have to close my eyes + flinch and ofcourse, enjoy the pain.
your confused. READ THE ENTIRE COMMENT. WHAT DOES POWER HAVE TO DO WITH ACCURACY BESIDES AT LONG DISTANCE? 100 yards is not a long distance. which is what this guy is shooting supposedly. again your comment is irrelevant.
I don't even know who to respond too..theres a lot of egos and shit talk. I imagine hes shooting what guns hes got or can get. The wind sounds like it's whipping pretty good. There aint no such thing as consistent 850 yd 1.5" group (sooner or later it'll happen) with anything that starts with 22. And finally, I was in some competition in FRG and got some big wooden medal that I could wear on my greens. It was a big deal but I cant tell you wtf it was...I was just getting out of other duty's.
@sgtrock68 I'm not sure what this guy does to bring people down on him but theres always a bunch of ya on all his videos. Also 100yds is not 300 meters,its 91m... lol look at me, I'm a know it all too!.
Governors dozen? You do mean governors 20 right , since that's what it is called. So I guess they changed the presidents 100 to the presidents 25 right.....bullshitters
@SFCSDM ......There is a Governor's Dozen and Twenty for pistol and rifle. I'm not 100% sure but, it may variate according to state (example: Oklahoma = 20, Arizona and Florida = 12).
thats not a fair comparison ...to have a fair comparison youd have to have identical rifles and scopes....the 710 is not near as accurate as the 700 and the 700 that you shot has a muzzle brake....my 30-06 browning will group far tighter than any of the two guns you showed there...also the 308 supposedly has more stability farther out like say 800 yards...something about case design and stability
@redchevy .. Your a moron 850 yards 4 round 50 cent piece umm not happening .. And 1.25 mile kill is an extremely long shot that is a lie as well... Well trained snipers firing the 50 cal. Thats a difficult shot. And you don't just close your eyes you keep your target... Think before you post a ridiculous comment like that and make your self look like a moron
@MrQuinten07 I agree with you
1whitesoxz1 7 hours ago
This is not a "viable" comparison. If it were, you would have the same model for both calibers, there would be no wind to throw shot, same scope on both rifles, and not muzzle breaks.
MrQuinten07 12 hours ago
yep 700 would never do that to ya
onneb90 13 hours ago
maybe you should have had something on that white paper for reference..like a real target.
jbaker7630 18 hours ago
I call this bull shit you are no shooter. Your shooting technique is crap and not even on a amateur level. The rem 710 is a crap gun but a 100 yards you can get 11/2 moa like my 7 year old sun can.If you wont to know what round is more accurate look at the round that has more wins than any other in f class witch is a .308. But going buy how you shoot and what you say you are i call you a liar. I would pull this video off if i were you and never show it to any one. Be glad you dont show your face
xxshooterxxdm 19 hours ago
Fucking cloun and idiot
zepka2 1 day ago
TERRORIST!!!
FR3AKinEviL 1 day ago
Ahh The return of the amchair expert, well now I know, this was very convincing and scientific. all you need to do is pull that thing on your face up a few more inches and we will have a result
louisfriendhastaste 2 days ago
Thanks for upload. From What I seen. The 710 is junk. With a group like that i would say not so much. Could you do more test with same models. Also what about doing the same bullet. maybe a different grain but same type like a boat tail bullet. Any thoughts where you could do more?
glockman1727ak47 2 days ago
nice target did you find it in a dumpster,you can't say witch round is more accurate by shooting only one brand of ammo.also your not using a bench rest
ridekawi09 2 days ago
I have a sako model 85 30-06.and that shuld be the real winner.
chevmarin 3 days ago
wow that was so shit it wasn't funny. A couple probs is that the winds blowin, you didn't tell us what ammo brand your using. who knows he may shoot shit ammo cough splutter federal powershoks in the 3006 and good ammo in the 308. also you used a a bipod for aiming i recommend a benchrest. lastly you didn't tell us which model model 700 it was. for all we know it could be a 700 sps against a26 inch varmint barrel
MrPineapplestu 4 days ago
"I mean, I really like this rifle; it's a piece of shit."
This test proved nothing other than you think the Taliban and other Terrorists are out to get you which is why you need to protect your identity. You're a Tactical Tool wearing Camo for no reason and driving a 1979 Chev Pickup. What's it like playing X-Box in Mom's Basement Big Shooter?
A Surgical Shooter who can shoot 5 inch groups at a hundred yards must be some kind of Ballistics God and be a major asset to any Sniper Squad.
3offtlevinson 4 days ago
That thing on your face- you forgot to take it off.
jimmyleg5 4 days ago
im pretty sure if you fired from a stable platform instead of from the back of a blazer in the wind you probably would have had a better grouping with both fire arms, try shooting from a prone position on the ground you'll probably have better results
1jalapenocheese 4 days ago
LMAO What a douche! Stay under cover brother!
1971player 5 days ago
so what was your aim point since a white piece of paper doesn't really quallify as a target
Thuglife3369 6 days ago
@Thuglife3369 are you really that retarded, it's not like he was just aiming for the piece of paper you downer!
OliverMorris100 2 days ago
Every day is a beautiful day to be out shooting.
Measure the spread and you will see that the difference is not enough to make a difference.
In the field that would have been 8 heart shots on any Deer I have ever hunted.
If you can hit it with a .308 you can hit it with a 30.06.
I agree about the Remington 700, it's a fine affordable rifle.
hammerogod 6 days ago
neither one is "more accurate" than the other. every round has the capability to be perfectly accurate at all times, no point in doing something like this. you might feel you shoot one better than the other, but at the end of the day there's no real difference when it comes to hitting paper
nblax41 1 week ago
the idea of a final test is great but... I could hit better with my .22 lr
NikolajHansen100 1 week ago
We appreciate your time, thats for sure, but it's a very unscientific test, and therefore proves very little as far as true accuracy is concerned. Different rifles, varying windspeed, your personal variations on each shot, and so forth.
So, much appreciated, but not at all a truthful comparison.
longjoeblake 1 week ago
i think this a good topic but it should have been done with two of the same rifles. my 30-06 can punch shotgun shells at 200 over and over. my friends 308 cant. not sayin either is better but if you have a good quality gun either will be great. if you are goin for hunting both are great. the 308 has less impact energy but i can reach 1000 yard with both and hit a man sized target. the militery has relied on the 308 for a long time because it is cheaper but still reahes out.
wrau1966 1 week ago
In the beginning of the video he made it sound like ''this is it, once for all i'm gonna prove which 1 is more accurate''. Two different model rifles, shooting out of a truck, very windy and shooting at the blank paper....VERY PROFESSIONAL
IWIHANC 1 week ago 2
@IWIHANC
and from a bipod!
hell, what the fÖÖk is benchresting.
;-)
stubenwurm 1 week ago
not even a point of aim
rx323bug 1 week ago
too much room for human error in this test
wwetrooper88 1 week ago
He seems like one of those guys who buys all the big name rifles that everyone talks about but doesn't know how to shoot any of them..... kudos to his friend for "zeroing" it for him so he can put on his ACU's(oh what a marine) and act like he can shoot...
FFKLB 1 week ago
that is terrible with a 30-06 i have gotten my shots touching with a remington 700 odd 6 out to 250 yards i can shoot the same with my savage .22 with a heavy barrel out to 100 yards
redneck0114life 1 week ago
I think it depends on who,s behind the gun my modle 70 win 30-06 pulls .75" all day long cheap Bushnell scope $100.00 100 yards
mohawksniper79 1 week ago
you suck balls if thats how you shoot at 100 yards ive shot groups like that with my .223 at 300 yards you dont even know what your doing in the first place............
Hickkfromhell 1 week ago
I CANT BEING TO COUNT THE WAYS HE FAILED AT PROVING HIS POINT
rosshane 1 week ago
@rosshane oh i can lol looks to be two DIFFERENT remington rifles, one a 700, .308, the other a 710,.30-06 (which is a horrible rifle compared to the 700), the 700 has a muzzle break, not nearly adequate target nor resting position to be comparing accuracy, should i keep going? lol
TyFrank33 1 week ago
..if you reloaded, you would know that the .308 projectile was/is/can be used in both rounds.
k6whp 1 week ago
@k6whp ..also, what is your aim point on that target?
k6whp 1 week ago
This guy's a jackass, not much else to say.
b00shie 1 week ago
uh what kind of target is that? How do you measure accuracy when there is no bullseye>? lol
99bugout 1 week ago in playlist More videos from aaron0313
not being a dick bro but i did the exact same test at 200m, had tighter groups with 5 shots each and got a different result.... it was razer close but the 30-06 outdid the 308 by about 1/8in on the grouping test, .. both groups were about 2-2.5in. but on the rapid shoot...3 shots in rapid succession..,the 308 won by a good bit sooooo im gonna say its really a personal preference, either way both good rds. i perfer the 308 normally but im gonna start gettin a few rds of 30-06 goin now too ...
bino607 1 week ago
Damn, you're a professional - you should like have your own TV-show and stuff..!
cazorp 1 week ago
It does not appear that you have much familiarity with rifles at all. I am not sure why the build up to start. Video is just plain confusing to me.
way2phat 1 week ago
Oh damn! I just picked up a Savage Axis XP .308 from my local sporting goods store today. the price was $352.00 out the door. i was going to go with a Remington 770 Series. However - after doing my due dilligence on research/ hearing alll the horror stories about the Rem 770 I then opted not to even consider the 770 a choice. From what I found is, barrels overheating/spliting, terrible bolt action, sticky bolt action, ETC!,,,FUGGETABOUTIT!!!!!
BattleCobra 2 weeks ago
fuck of you were in the army.... the rifle is shit, and the target... snipers don’t hold the rifle the way you do...and get beater groups this is shit u can’t shoot for shit.... take your fucking mask of so I can see your face.. Fucking nice gropes Lolls if it was ta 600yds.... and I’ve shoot .5 moa groups with both 30 06 and 308.. YOU CANT SHOOT FOR SHIT...
rubberduck182 2 weeks ago
take ur fucking mask of u terorist
rubberduck182 2 weeks ago
I can't believe you qualified expert in the Marine Corps with a grouping that size. At 100 YDS your group shouldn't be any bigger than about 4 inches. Granted you are shooting it what sounds like a 20 MPH wind and from the bed of a truck, which the Marines should have taught you was a terrible place to shoot from.
josiahroberson 2 weeks ago
No mention of bullet weight, barrel twist, the heavy crosswinds. Not even to mention you should be shooting military weapons like a Springfield. A showdown between the 03A3 and the M1A would have been killer.
crazy4offroad 2 weeks ago
On a good Day i shot this with my 3 Barrel Drilling Sauer&Sohn from 1961
waldschradt1 2 weeks ago in playlist 02_GUNS
First, different rifles for either caliber will not do. Second, the groups were not tight enough as I would expect from a SPS at 100 yards. Third, is it the same type of rounds for comparison?
fimfengius 2 weeks ago
There is his fuck up. Remington 700 bdl in a 30-06 vs a remington adl in .308. ADL WINS EVERYTIME duhhhhhhhhh
JessicaFrechFanMan 2 weeks ago
i was thinking that this guy was a scrub like one of those airsofters wearing all that camo and shit and then once he said he shot expert in the marine corps and national guard i realized there shall be no fuckery in this video.
GnRSlash88 2 weeks ago
dude.....100yrds? I am not a professional and shoot a CZ 858-2 with iron sights and do slightly worse than that at 250yrds
good2goskee 2 weeks ago
@th1kidd03 What does this dumbass say at 1:27 ?
OSOK308A5 2 weeks ago
.308 for life!
a45sArtwork 2 weeks ago
it is not abt the gun its the gunner
iyalakantomanen 3 weeks ago
AREA 51?
352outlaw 3 weeks ago
The Truth is there Either one of these bullets are very accurate, either one can be more accurate based on The build of the Rifle and a quality handload......... My Preference, The'06 is in an a built rifle with a free-floating barrel a synthetic Glass bedded stock a light trigger and a tight twist on the barrel probably at least a 1 in 9 ":of course you have to match the round to your barrel". Then I would handload some good tight rounds quality brass not more than 150 grains for accuracy...
outdoorjunkie251 3 weeks ago
first off, at 425 yards i have a 8 inch grouping with my 180 grain remington 7400 series 30-06. second of all for a marine your shooting sucks. no offense
and third just imagine how bad it would hurt if your bolt flew out and caught you in the cheek bone after firing a round.
tkbuckslayer 3 weeks ago
i don't think you mentioned if you were shooting factory ammo or reloads. have you tried reloading? At about a dollar a shot when it's in stock for 30-06, i figured that trying to find the most accurate factory ammunition would cost much more than handloading. my worst grouping test load was about the spread on your 30-06 test. i think both of your rifles could've performed more accurately, especially with your training
dompflu 3 weeks ago
too many variables, Powder, bullet type grain, rifle choice etc
ldsidahoinmatt 3 weeks ago
You need help
saisandoval 4 weeks ago
I'm sorry sir but at 100yds with a rem 700. 30-06 with hornady interlock 150grain ammunition me and my father have made groups the size of a 50 cent piece I'm not insulting u but it doesn't appear that you are a verh good shot to me but thata my oppion based on the actions I have seen and done myself
waydeowen 4 weeks ago
I still think 06 is all around better round
brianbodenmiller 4 weeks ago
@brianbodenmiller i totally agree with you my 30-06 walks all over either of his guns. i dont know what you shoot but i shoot a remington 7400 30-06 which is semi auto and i can go upto 425 yards out in wyoming. i actually got a buffalo at that range. 413.7 yards he was at
tkbuckslayer 3 weeks ago
you are fucking clueless
mattmassacer 1 month ago
Holy FUCK!!! First off your target paper didn t give you a point of aim!! Second ,A remington 710 bolt is a cheap piece of shit rifle, use a upgraded 700 or something and you never said what type of 308 or 30-06 ammo brand you were using?? LIke for example a 30-06 xp3 or nossler partition will shot better than a power point!! A 270 win or wsm groups much better than either 308 or 30-06.
boobyetube 1 month ago
A good article on this topic can be found at riflemansjournal on blogspot in the April 2011 archive called Cartridges: Sibling Rivalry: .308 vs. .30-06.
The long and the short of it:
Over 600 yards the .308 is 0.3% more accurate and over 1000 yards the .30-06 is 0.4% more accurate. The reason for this is that at that range the .308 is perilously close to the transonic barrier while the .30-06 stays comfortably above it.
michaelnewey 1 month ago
Both guns have their qualities. I own both and both are very accurate. If both guns are equally built with same trigger set and shot from a support such as sand bags at a good solid bench then it is possible to compare. Are these loads factory ammo or hand loads? Are the bullet weights the same? What are the velocities? I hand load and can design a load to fit my specific rifles and they will shoot very accurate. My preference is the 06 but my 308 BDL sure is a sweet shooter.
MrCPentecost 1 month ago
The newer Remingtons are junk Browning for life
dooformuladlx 1 month ago
what? is a gov dozen
TheLespaul316 1 month ago
Here is some constructive criticism. A true test of comparative accuracy should be done off sandbags, not a bipod. Secondly, you need a point of reference on your target, you show how PRECISE the rifles are but not how ACCURATE they are. Furthermore, I am on board with you on not buying anything Remington but the 700. But it is a well put together video man.
SigShepardo 1 month ago
Don't mean any disrespect bro, but I couldn't help notice a couple things:
1) It didn't seem like you had a point of reference? Like a bullseye to actually aim at...
2) Is the 308 barrel fluted, while the 30-06 NOT fluted?
futga 1 month ago
Every round can be in accurate and accurate depends on the loads, bullet. COL, and the twist and length of the barrel. I got alot of guns to shoot under half and inch with handloads.
RanchhandTCR 1 month ago
Can I be your PMI?
USMCLangskov 1 month ago
gr8 vid but he is not an expert
bad trigger control
no controled breathing
and definitely wrong shooting position
TheFaxmachine3000 1 month ago
sporter barrell wtf*(&^%*%$#
stratcat70 1 month ago
Load your bipod the same amount everytime and you will get tighter groups. Thanks for the comparison but seems like that time in the National Guard has diminished your accuracy skill. Semper Fi.
oyy0 1 month ago
Accuracy these cartridges can do just about equally, although .30-06 can pack more of a punch.
It all comes down to the load and the rifle in the end.
EHSPP16 1 month ago
I think you just pulled two rounds with the .30-06 The groupings are quite similar save one shot. Next time mark two spots that you're aiming at so you can see which ones are closer to the center point.
Djpoo225 1 month ago
Here in Brazil to have any gun is a crime.
daltonagre 1 month ago
He doesn't even know which group he actually "pulled" a shot from. I've seen much better done with iron sites by the same people that "trained" him.
jam13df 1 month ago
@jam13df my dad was a sniper in the ARMYand i've seen him put 3 rounds inside of each other at 250 yards with a shitty old winchester 30/06.im sure he can do it farther than that with thr rifle and scope he was trained with.i've seen him hit quarters at 300 yds.he does it so easily it pisses me off.this guy in the video is full of shit.
TheAngeloakers 1 month ago
300 win mag is better the both of those rounds
liftedduramax555 1 month ago
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@ ANGLICO- Machine fires the weapon, no trigger invlolved. I'd can't really hold a 2 inch group even at the 300. For those resluts, which were in the 60's mind you, weapon is in a heavy vice with special firing mechanism under optimum conditions. Same as we test today. Only way to determine accuracy of a round. You test the round, you test the rifle, the shooter is a variable so he is left out. 30 06 was tested in same set up, to this day it never got close to 308 groups.
lingbopper88 1 month ago
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lingbopper88 1 month ago
i still found this generally entertaining, it looks like he loves to shoot and has a possayive attitude towards t, good shooting.
aswomnessguy 1 month ago
It all depends on what you feel comfortable shooting.
amram24 1 month ago
it would be better to say the the .308 is GENERALLY more accurate than the 06. because depending on the ammo your shooting, it wont always have tighter groups. but when it comes down to it, for general hunting of deer for example, the 308 is more typically more accurate, but the 06 is plenty accurate enough to do the job just as well
ariel4more 1 month ago
the 30-06 was a 770 and the 308 was a 700 the 700 is a much more accurate and reliable gun vs. the 770... also the test should have been done on a sighting rack instead of a prone position... you should also use the sighing paper soo you can Aline the scope correctly instead of a blank piece of computer paper... and to top it off you should use the same gun and same scope and have them professionally sighted.... in 15 this is just common sence
mxvalade 1 month ago
@mxvalade *im
mxvalade 1 month ago
umm a suggestion... you might try a stock... on both... that has a free float barrel condition. You'll see alot more accuracy. but you prob. know that.
popcorncrow 1 month ago
I have shot both WinM70 - 30-06 and 308. In my books, the guy behind it, is the issue. I dont shoot blank paper. Your eye needs to see something, to focus on. Using peep sights, your eye picks it up and draws the shot.
mpccenturion 1 month ago
unq for sure
eben1975 1 month ago
a have a 710 and i hate it. it is crap. the bolt never came out like yours so i guess the lever is doing its job on mine. it costs me 419 with scope (cheap bushnell). the bolt slides and locks like shit. nothing smooth there. but i have to say it is accurate even if it is a crappy rifle....
carcajouxx 1 month ago
to really compare the two rounds i would suggest rifles of the same quality.
johnbuck87 1 month ago
Was somebody jumping on the hood? Just kidding. 30 06 was proven inferior once 308 Winchester was introduced at the high power championships. 30 06 disappeared from matches in the 60's for good reason. By mid 1960's the 308 proved to be 60% more accurate with 40 shot groups under 2 inches at the 600 yardline. 30 06 to this day never approched this feat. V ring dimensions had to be cut in half for the 308 because there were too many ties at the matches. case closed-
lingbopper88 1 month ago
@lingbopper88 I sure like to who pulled the trigger. you under 2" at 600yrds = thats less than .10MOA at 100yrds. thats bull there is no way you take 40 shots at 600yrd and get less than a 2" group. Mother nature would of spread that shot group. If you can out guess mother nature 40 times you are a walking God. Put to y'all this way. Not even Carlos Hathcock could of pull that off. But .308win is better than 30-06
ANGLICOMarine1 1 month ago
@ANGLICOMarine1 weapons are in a vice with mechanical firing mechanisms for military accuracy testing. not even a trigget to be pulled. also tested indoors so mother nature stays outside. You are correct, I doubt a shooter could pull of 40 shots that tight but under good conditions I have seen pretty close to it at Camp Perry service matches.
lingbopper88 1 month ago
ok guys quit rippin on this guy they wernt the best groups but they wernt bad either, they all made it on target, the wind was blowing all to hell if u couldent hear it so relax pple, nice video sir, keep'em comin
randomness8895 1 month ago
@randomness8895 100yrds = no wind value, meaning no DOPE change is needed or at 100yrds even a strong winds at full value are not going to affect point of impact. The reason i cant let it go is because Marine Rifle Expert are pretty good shots I should know i never shot anything less than that.
ANGLICOMarine1 1 month ago
@ANGLICOMarine1 Your a Marine!!!!! and my BROTHER!!!! No wind value...Must of been paying attention to your PMI.
USMCLangskov 1 month ago
for a Marine, your skill that you displayed suck. Its KD, Stationary Target, No Time Limit. Come on. I have a Mossberg 100ATR 30-06 Redfield 3-9x40 custom ammo: win case, fed 210 primer, 150gr Barnes TTSX Bullet, 2780fps. And I shoot less than .75 MOA at 100yrds. 300yrd less than 3" a part. 30-06 is plenty accurate. you just suck and can't handle the recoil. Apply the basic principles of marksmanship you jerk. My opinion .308 is better because it kicks less while having similar ballistics
ANGLICOMarine1 1 month ago
army ACU worn by a marine?
m14lover1 1 month ago
what bullet weight did you use. 150gn in both would give the 308 a slight advantage due to rate of twist in barrel. If use a 165 or 168gn in the '06 and the same or the 150 in the 308 I beleave you would have a different result, nmho
gator4rivers 1 month ago
You had to use the cheapest grade of ammunition possible for an accuracy video, didn't ya......Get rid of that Golden Bear ammo. ITS JUNK!
TEMPEST0087 1 month ago
@TEMPEST0087 i always introduce my old ammo to the walnut tree behind my house if you know what i mean
tkbuckslayer 3 weeks ago
nice video, History and competition has proven the 308 to be the more mechanically accurate round.
swatbwana 1 month ago
You can't compare two different rounds out of two different rifles, no consistency here.
crounds1711 1 month ago
This guy most certainly did not receive any form of U.S. government training in regards to rifle marksmanship
mmoser02 1 month ago
yeah dude ur dumb as shit man look at all the un controlled variables that are present different rifles, they were not in a vice plus the fact u such dick a shooting well thats about it if you want lesson on how to shoot let me know
MegaScooby71 1 month ago
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lingbopper88 1 month ago
My Ruger 10-22 does that well at 100 rds. You have a loose scope? How are you comparing the accuracy of two different calibers while using two different rifles? You need a pair of Rem 700's in same configuration, one in 308 and the other in 30-06, then you need both bullets in same weight to ever have a chance at finding out which one does what.
lingbopper88 1 month ago
im holding sub moa with my tikka .30-06, i think both calibers are accurate but you can get a tiny little bit more punch out of a .30-06.
SolnaHockey 1 month ago
@SolnaHockey Thanks for sharing.
aaron0313 1 month ago
Where was your target? At 100 yards that's not very Marine like(Grouping). In this case at 100 yards I would take my M4 with iron sights. Not trying to bash you. Maybe I should post a video of my Browning A bolt .30-06 at 100 yards. Army might have gotten you a little rusty. ONE SHOT, ONE KILL.
USMCLangskov 1 month ago 4
@USMCLangskov LOL! Semper Fi!
aaron0313 1 month ago 2
@aaron0313 I'm lol'ing in real life. American made bitches (Moss ATR .308) puts a mean whole in some Kansas deer.
usmcmanary 1 month ago
@aaron0313 hooah lol
TheMilw414 3 weeks ago
@USMCLangskov Semper Fi. Looks like he can't even shoot a Pizza Box
ANGLICOMarine1 1 month ago
you first got to shoot a group to tell which is more accurate
DougTater 1 month ago
you would of had better goups if you would of shot from the ground. the wind could of been rocking your truck and throwing off your bullets at 100 yards. even if it was only 1/32 of a inch, it could effect over 1 inch at 100 yards. it also seems your bi-pod is about a inch or 2 to tall for you. let the bi-pod do the holding up the forarm. use both arms to stabilise the stock .. nice rifles and good shooting.. stay safe, and let it rain!!
MrThepipelayer1 1 month ago
Should be a Recall on the 710 if they are malfunctioning like this particular gun is. Cant go wrong with a 700, ADL or BDL
sirtom68 1 month ago
useless...
Thirtyaughtsix17 1 month ago
Why u holding the front of the stock?? The bi pod is supporting that put your arm Back and support the rear end of the rifle!
Tristy1987 1 month ago
These rifles should group much better than that. Fuck, my Marlin 336, which is a 30-30 short barrel groups better than that at 100 yards.
tartredarrow 1 month ago
There's no difference in intrinsic accuracy of the two, it's entirely dependant on the rifle they are fired from.
And that guy's 100 yard groups are pathetic, jebus he's using a bipod and big-oh scope, those rifles should be doing MOA and getting 1" groups at 100 yards.
Blahblobify 1 month ago
Hey Dumb ass, a -06 bullet and a 308 but are not always the same. 308 is usually a 150 grain and a -06 Bullet is usually 165 grain. However, a -06 can shoot a 150 grain bullet.
MapleManEagle 1 month ago
it doesnt matter what gun you use there all accurate it just matters on wind and how much you shake fuck this dude! id like to see him against my aught 6
jjjmmmaaannnful 1 month ago
Oh look, another youtube gear queer.
drbackjack 1 month ago
i love seeing how people think savage, browning, etc are better than remington. First of all the M24 for example is based off the remington 700. Also that guy isnt a marksman, if u put an actual sniper behind a remington 700 he would probably have 1 inch groupings at 100 yards
taylor69575 2 months ago
@taylor69575 or less
potymouf1 1 month ago
the model 700 is the way to do it
taylor69575 2 months ago
wow 710 looks like junk
theoputdoorsmissouri 2 months ago
I guess the "Dozen" isnt very hard to get into with that kind of shooting?
jeremybeaner 2 months ago
That kind of grouping at 100 yards on a windy day isnt too bad. But watch the breathing and sight picture. You have a scope on that thing. Should be even tighter.
I have grouping like that with the M16 and M4. iron sight or Red dot CompM4
Browning50 2 months ago
I kind of hope these are the shooters the military is training for the take-over of USA as planned in COG. They'll fold up like a card table against good shooters. I have to say I learned a lot more from civilians than I did in the infantry I'm sure it's worse today.
jayskind 2 months ago
You should be shooting inside of 1moa@100 yards and since it's every 1.04" per 100 yards per 1moa that means your shots should almost touch. The bullets interchange between both cases 30.06 and 308 use same rifling for same grain weight. 30.06 was designed for cordite and 308 was designed for more powerful pressure. Under matching conditions they are nearly identical out to 500 yards where 30.06 starts to out accelerate 308. My 7.62x39 shoots 1.5 and less as tested with 600 rounds with 10x40scp
jayskind 2 months ago
You didn't answer it 1 bit. Both rounds are more accurate than the shooter. Clamp both of them down. Shoot Match or Mach (Whatever you call it) make sure its surely clamped down, then you can answer it.
CCWInTraining 2 months ago
Hey i have a Tikka T3 lite in the 7mm-08 caliber. Its a 308 casing necked down to a 7mm. At 100 yards I shoot easily 1 inch groups. i would recommend that you would get a Tikka. They guarantee 1 inch groups at 100 yards. I hand load my ammo and i get about 3/4 inch groups to about 1/2 inch groups. I'm only 15 years old and i never been in the army. You have like 4 inch groups.You should be shooting better than that.
Theshooter1614 2 months ago
Those groups were rubbish. But then again they were shot with a remington......if my Tikka or Sako shot like that, I would throw it off a bridge. And yeah I AM saying the Remington is rubbish, just look at the damn bolt flapping around in the breeze on ejection. What a piece of low cost junk!
dman6184 2 months ago
tard
TheCjcook 2 months ago
not to be a ass but wtf up with the mask
bitty921995 2 months ago
Both rounds are accurate. I at ballistics. 308 curve a little more.
Welther47 2 months ago
Man, I havent won ANY awards nor am i an expert by any means, but i guarantee i can shoot a MUCH tighter group then that at the EXACT same range in what would appear to be the EXACT same conditions without any comforts. Hmmm, maybe i should be recruited.
Sniper0Sigma 2 months ago
@Sniper0Sigma ya i wrote my innitials in a paper target at 150 yards. 115 rounds out of my 30 carbine with iron sights. i hit all of them perfectly and i guess i just wanted to see if i could do it.
tkbuckslayer 3 weeks ago
I expect them to actually live up to that authority. You sire have not. All I see here is a guy who got a few awards at one point in his life trying to chime in on an issue that should be left to actual experts who can run proper experiments and not just take pop shots. Also next time try having a standard center to target and make sure you zero each rifle in first.
northatron3000 2 months ago
point of my story is, those two rounds are so similar the real difference comes down to rifle and shooter. In the end of the day you just aren't that good. I don't care what you say you've earned that doesn't mean squat for this comparison. Those groups weren't good, both those rifles and calibers you shot could and have done better. this comparison only shows which rifle fits you best. I will apologize for the harshness, but when someone says they have the authority to decide an issue
northatron3000 2 months ago
as stated before by a lot of people, when you do a comparison test use the style of rifle and use a rifle stand. Everything about this test throws up red flags. You relay on your own skill.. Problem with that is you aren't as good as you think. I've seen a rem 710 in 30-06 put rem 700 .308 with a floated bull barrel to shame. Granted that day the shooter was to blame but a cheap 710 in .30-06 could get 3 rounds touching where a rifle that should be better couldn't.
northatron3000 2 months ago
awsome vid but buy browning, remington rifles are good but like u said about the bolt lets hope the guy that is covering me in a fire fight doesnt have the same problem with his bolt. You would think a hi end gun maker like reington would fix this, this isnt the first i have heard of this. I have also heard of the same model firing by just chambering the round
TheKandn1 2 months ago
nice demonstration the video was long but hey they both seem to do good to me. would you say the Remington 710 would have an issue in combat sniping?
laladoodieincarnate 2 months ago
@laladoodieincarnate The bolt sliding out is really annoying, I would go with the 700.
aaron0313 2 months ago
@laladoodieincarnate yes, its stock is flimsy as with all but there are less options for upgrading, stick to a good 7oo base model, worth every penny.
MrDaajman 1 month ago
shooting by shoulder and not a mechanized system leaves alot of room for error. along with different brand and style rifles...this test i dont think is a valid one.
z71tina 2 months ago
Your just a piss poor shot at 100 yards.......thats what I have to say.
suzuki254385 2 months ago
im no expert but the authors of my reloading handbook are and according to them a .308 has a velocity between 2300fps and 2800 vs. .30-06 2500fps - 3000fps... however a .30-06 for a m1 garand has a velocity of 2400fps -2750 (all comparisons made with 155 gain bullet) source: Hornady handbook of Cartridge reloading
the projectiles from both cartridges are exactly the same, im not incline to believe that a deference of less than 200 fps made that kind of a deference @100yards
PHOBOSakaSHELLY 2 months ago
oh, by the way, i did not see you compensate for the two first cold bore shots that are going to have a completely different point of impact than the following shots. you did not do this on either rifle. do you have a data book for either rifle? if you do then you would already have what is called a cold bore deviation sheet that would give the exact measurements and changes in the point of impact. i am a huge remington fan, but... the 710 is not the best...at all
RuralCrimeResponse 2 months ago
Remington 700 rifle 308 with muzzle brake , vs Remington budget 710 30-06 w/out muzzle brake ? Really this is fair to compare, not so ! Get a better 30-06, Savage 110 , or Browning
A bolt and try this again . Long lived 30-06 Rules !
mindieta 2 months ago
calibers i meant to say.
trophytaker100 2 months ago
and i am just a avid hunting and do it yourself gun smith,and from what i seen i would hate to have you reprosenting a so call gunsman for my country.goodluck and you really need to practice.....alot!
trophytaker100 2 months ago
thats total bull,i have then two rifles but different brands,and all my rifles will shot m.o.a,and if not it gets sold.but after lapping the rings,floating the barrel,bedding the action and adjusting the trigger will useually make it happen..you seem to be a little confused trying to compare a 700 to a 710.thats like comparing a lexus to a corolla.next time use the same rifle to make your theory more plausable.cause you proved nothing here.i have a savage the will put both of your rifles to sham
trophytaker100 2 months ago
Aaron, nice shooting - silky triggered! I need a good shoulder cushion for my abolt 270wsm - oh well, just have to close my eyes + flinch and ofcourse, enjoy the pain.
.308 | .30-06 == I see dead deers.
MyThoTanLong 2 months ago
your confused. READ THE ENTIRE COMMENT. WHAT DOES POWER HAVE TO DO WITH ACCURACY BESIDES AT LONG DISTANCE? 100 yards is not a long distance. which is what this guy is shooting supposedly. again your comment is irrelevant.
coheedatreyu 2 months ago
I don't even know who to respond too..theres a lot of egos and shit talk. I imagine hes shooting what guns hes got or can get. The wind sounds like it's whipping pretty good. There aint no such thing as consistent 850 yd 1.5" group (sooner or later it'll happen) with anything that starts with 22. And finally, I was in some competition in FRG and got some big wooden medal that I could wear on my greens. It was a big deal but I cant tell you wtf it was...I was just getting out of other duty's.
sgtrock68 2 months ago
@sgtrock68 I'm not sure what this guy does to bring people down on him but theres always a bunch of ya on all his videos. Also 100yds is not 300 meters,its 91m... lol look at me, I'm a know it all too!.
sgtrock68 2 months ago
Governors dozen? You do mean governors 20 right , since that's what it is called. So I guess they changed the presidents 100 to the presidents 25 right.....bullshitters
SFCSDM 2 months ago 5
@SFCSDM Are you a Presidents 100?
aaron0313 2 months ago
@SFCSDM Haha glad you said it. This guy is clearly not an "expert" as he claimed, especially with those groups.
seanp1129 2 months ago 12
@SFCSDM ......There is a Governor's Dozen and Twenty for pistol and rifle. I'm not 100% sure but, it may variate according to state (example: Oklahoma = 20, Arizona and Florida = 12).
dtcb1 2 months ago
thats not a fair comparison ...to have a fair comparison youd have to have identical rifles and scopes....the 710 is not near as accurate as the 700 and the 700 that you shot has a muzzle brake....my 30-06 browning will group far tighter than any of the two guns you showed there...also the 308 supposedly has more stability farther out like say 800 yards...something about case design and stability
MrOughtSixer 2 months ago
Awesome K5
neowzl 2 months ago
proof is in the pudding haha nice vid man gonna sub
cumminsman1993 2 months ago
@redchevy .. Your a moron 850 yards 4 round 50 cent piece umm not happening .. And 1.25 mile kill is an extremely long shot that is a lie as well... Well trained snipers firing the 50 cal. Thats a difficult shot. And you don't just close your eyes you keep your target... Think before you post a ridiculous comment like that and make your self look like a moron
jbarth73 2 months ago