Screamo is a genre. When someone screams in a song, it's not immediately screamo. Tim doesn't even use the same technique they use in the genre called Screamo. Every song with screaming is falsely called screamo nowadays. While screamo is actually a really unknown genre, with bands such as Circle Takes The Square. This is melodic hardcore, it is totally different from screamo, apart from it using distorted guitars and screams (though they are hardly the same screams) feeling=totally different
I really like how he screams here, but his clean vocals don't seem to fit the music at all.. His clean vocals fit so much better in RA and his screamo technique is amazing for this band.
He should've sticked with screaming in this band and normal singing in RA.
I cant even listen to radio nowadays with their shitty rap and annoying "PARTY ROCKERS IN THE HOUSE TONIGHT!!" and its a miracle when they even play music with guitar in it. then i come home and listen to real music and its like.... jizz in ma socks.
I played "Roadside" for someoe who hasn't heard any Rise Against past 2004...and he was all like "who the fuck is this? It sounds familiar..." and I was like...really? Best reaction ever. =P
@tayzXlove bc alot of time Tim's songs are x10 better the second time you here them. Theve already heard RA songs 2 times or more so they sound amazing, so listening to a TKT song for the 1st time, it sounds way inferior. At least thats the way I feel about both bands (and what kept me from getting into any of TKT 's songs). Also fans of only ATR prolly wouldnt like TKT too much :(
People need to stop comparing this to Rise Against just because they have the same vocalist. Seriously. The music is somewhat similar in terms of genre, but the overall style is vastly different.
okay, but in fact it's also melodic hardcore...and if you listen to -> dead ringer, to the core, state of the union, great awakening and such stuff then you can see that RA did such stuff too...but not in such a length...7 minute song omg =D
@TheFabibaf - You have no clue what the true definition of "screamo" is then I am guessing. Screaming is different in many forms. Grindcore, metalcore, metal, hardcore, all have very distinctive marks. Screamo is reserved for the pop bands who attempted to use screaming in their power-pop songs that have the distinctive mark of shrieks.
This version is better but I hate how they took out the spoken verse part! That part was awesome in the original! It reminded me of Mandatory Suicide by Slayer.
@slamajamaZ Have you listened to the other version? The guitar is barely audible at certain parts. For example, 0:57 doesn't sound nearly as good on the original version. Plus, they dubbed Tim's voice too low in the original. His voice also sounds a lot better during the chorus in this version. There are plenty of differences.
@MrFlopz Because that versions off an older and lower quality ep. This is the Romance of Helen Trent recording, which was recorded in 2002 in a better studio. :D
Saw Tim live in Molson Ampitheater July 31st 2009. Best day of my life. Although it was with RA, he still does an AMAZING job. His screams that he does for RA are just as good as they were for TKT
I wish people would fucking open their ears and listen to good music like the killing tree, such a shame that they stopped recording. RA and TKT fucking rock
@ReneBrain that means rise against never really changed then, because they had those types of songs written, they just never got through the company. I knew geffen would find way to fuck up this band.... shoudla stuck with fat
i really dont give a shit about what anyone else has to say about rise against, because rise against will always be one of my favorite bands, but i do have to agree that they have changed, and not for the best, but the killing tree is absolutly fucking amazing, and so is baxter, another awesome tim mcllrath band, which no one seems to have heard of
a lot of rise fans know baxter, but a lot of them don't like them. me too, this is unprofesssionell funband, with a cracked voice of the leadsinger, i don't like that
Ya I see where you are coming from, I used to really dig Rise Against. I guess it's a good think TKT wasn't around long enough to turn into a shit band though. I honestly can't stand RA's new material at all. It's so fucking generic.
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oh my god no shit! the new album made me want to kick tim in the face. actually it's probably not tim's fault, but zach's. it's his first album with the band and it's also their worst. appeal to reason failed. hopefully their new album coming out late 2010 will be better.
no offense to any big fans of the killing tree but I think I like the way Tim sings in rise against more. I don't really like the screaming, I mean I know this isn't screamo music but still understand these are my opinions.
yea man i agree completely, i like the mellowness of rise against, but every once in awhile everybody has to listen to screaming type music, realease anger and shit
I really doubt the woman talking throughout the CD is Helen Trent. The Romance of Helen Trent was an old radio broadcast show that aired for a bazillion years. The show had similar themes such as heartbreache and relationshp pain, which Is way i believe they named the Cd this. But the audio is really neat, ties the CD together.
the audio on this album came from a bag of 113 cassette tapes found in a dumpster in chicago by billy roberts (forgotten four/ loop distro). me and my friend jonathan menjivar edited a bunch of them together into a 15-minute piece which we shared with tim. the killing tree used excerpts throughout the album. still not sure who the actual girl is in the recordings...
No offense mate but i dont believe that for shit...
what do you mean this came from cassette tapes that makes no sense... its clearly not cut and pasted and since it came out in 2002 and the earliest release of TKT is 2000 i doubt they would have recorded the album on to tapes
not been the 80's for quite a while now man.
it would have been even a little bit believable if you didnt drop the names in there
actually no cos if you knew tim that well you wouldnt care what kids on youtube think
what you mean that tiny bit of audio at the start of the track that means nothing, could be any amount of samples... i doubt this douche had anything to do with anything on these albums man.
la wea violenta... me gusta
chrisg20x 2 days ago
thats is so fuc.... awesome
ThissSisWaaaR 2 weeks ago
i soooooo want them to get back together and release a new album :D but thats unlikely :/
CaptainAndyThePirate 2 weeks ago
Australia needs a means in which I can buy TKT albums. P's, I want his babies.
jesseconte444 1 month ago
This fucking rules.
ratshitski 1 month ago
Screamo is a genre. When someone screams in a song, it's not immediately screamo. Tim doesn't even use the same technique they use in the genre called Screamo. Every song with screaming is falsely called screamo nowadays. While screamo is actually a really unknown genre, with bands such as Circle Takes The Square. This is melodic hardcore, it is totally different from screamo, apart from it using distorted guitars and screams (though they are hardly the same screams) feeling=totally different
Byzantic 2 months ago
@Byzantic This hardcore with metally bits. So i guess metalcore. I love this song cause it's angry, fast paced, raw, and heavy! :D
tomahschestars 1 month ago
Tim is the shit !!
DeadGoldBass 2 months ago
@DeadGoldBass In the good sense
DeadGoldBass 2 months ago
I love rise against's hardcore stuff, this is exactly what i was looking for!
tomahschestars 2 months ago
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tomahschestars 2 months ago
@xXmEtAlFaNxJxLx Shame they aren't going to.
Rougethegothbat 3 months ago
Why are all TKT albums like £60? Also brillint song and brilliant band, thanks for uploading.
Rougethegothbat 3 months ago
Screamo is so fucking awesome in music ! so melodic
DeadGoldBass 3 months ago
@xXmEtAlFaNxJxLx
His clean vocals are amazing, they just don't fit the sound, that's what I meant.
Sarnatuile 4 months ago
I really like how he screams here, but his clean vocals don't seem to fit the music at all.. His clean vocals fit so much better in RA and his screamo technique is amazing for this band.
He should've sticked with screaming in this band and normal singing in RA.
Sarnatuile 4 months ago
eargasm..
TheKartoffelschuh 4 months ago
dissonance
jelllyfishh 4 months ago
I cant even listen to radio nowadays with their shitty rap and annoying "PARTY ROCKERS IN THE HOUSE TONIGHT!!" and its a miracle when they even play music with guitar in it. then i come home and listen to real music and its like.... jizz in ma socks.
triofact34 5 months ago
@xXmEtAlFaNxJxLx
ReneBrain talked about RA
XMrFabricatorX 5 months ago
I played "Roadside" for someoe who hasn't heard any Rise Against past 2004...and he was all like "who the fuck is this? It sounds familiar..." and I was like...really? Best reaction ever. =P
alanihawaii123 5 months ago 4
If you want screamo go listen to those talentless 'bring me the horizon' pussies. this is the real hardcore shit TIM!
DarkconspiracyPS3 6 months ago
@DarkconspiracyPS3 your an idiot
EllaMews 5 months ago
i have had this song stuck in my head for the past 2 weeks and its not even getting annoying :D
CaptainAndyThePirate 6 months ago 2
i would give everything i have, if i could had his voice
MickeDeronCKY 7 months ago
how can people NOT like this AND RA ? o_O i dont get it honestly, someone explain to me why?
tayzXlove 7 months ago
@tayzXlove bc alot of time Tim's songs are x10 better the second time you here them. Theve already heard RA songs 2 times or more so they sound amazing, so listening to a TKT song for the 1st time, it sounds way inferior. At least thats the way I feel about both bands (and what kept me from getting into any of TKT 's songs). Also fans of only ATR prolly wouldnt like TKT too much :(
Codylupardus 7 months ago 3
BREEE BREEE BREEE
JoeMack93 7 months ago
sort of sounds like early deftones
mindfreak061 7 months ago
im just gonna call this hardcore.
lemonator406 7 months ago
tim screams in rise against @The Fabibaf you fool... hes awsome in both bands
willwz123 8 months ago
i cant find a copy of this cd anywhere:(
willwz123 8 months ago
People need to stop comparing this to Rise Against just because they have the same vocalist. Seriously. The music is somewhat similar in terms of genre, but the overall style is vastly different.
ThePsychoToaster 8 months ago
this version is nice too! Luv u killing tree!
Changeling1844 9 months ago
The new genre... melodic screamo. That's cool.
AvarageRAfan 9 months ago
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flicheck 9 months ago
Why can't people like this and Rise Against? Tim's talent, as well as the rest of both bands, is too much to ignore. Get over yourselves.
RayneStew 9 months ago 45
@RayneStew hehe, i am starting a band based inspired by rise/tkt an metalstuff...
because some people are dumbasses and juest want to hear that poppier music than this hardcore shit !
ReneBrain 9 months ago 3
@ReneBrain i dont like this band^^
rise against is my favourite band though. i simply dont like screamo.
TheFabibaf 9 months ago
@TheFabibaf
okay, but in fact it's also melodic hardcore...and if you listen to -> dead ringer, to the core, state of the union, great awakening and such stuff then you can see that RA did such stuff too...but not in such a length...7 minute song omg =D
ReneBrain 9 months ago 21
@ReneBrain half way there, torches, ready to fall, blood to bleed, life less frightening- just to add a few of epicness (with screemo in it)
PingerBBS 9 months ago
@PingerBBS u forgot gethsemane, built to last, black masks and gasoline
ffireball88 7 months ago
@ReneBrain nah this is too heavy to be just hardcore. its metallic hardcore or metalcore kinda in the same vein as hatebreed
AP93Playa 8 months ago
@TheFabibaf This isn't screamo.. I hate it when people assume if a band screams they are a "screamo" b and. This is NOT screamo. This is Metal-Core.
RelapseT9 9 months ago 4
@TheFabibaf I love parts in RA songs when he screams but you are right this is too much.
unikati101 5 months ago
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TheExploitedNirvana 3 months ago
@TheFabibaf - You have no clue what the true definition of "screamo" is then I am guessing. Screaming is different in many forms. Grindcore, metalcore, metal, hardcore, all have very distinctive marks. Screamo is reserved for the pop bands who attempted to use screaming in their power-pop songs that have the distinctive mark of shrieks.
iamever777 2 months ago
"replace my heart with your machine and see if it still bleeds!" dude thats fuckin deep! yay the killing tree!
PunkChick17577 10 months ago 6
is this a different version?
Changeling1844 10 months ago
@Changeling1844 it is the version of the album "the romance of helen trent"
ReneBrain 10 months ago
tim is so badass with his one blue eye
sheznic 10 months ago 2
at the first picture with tim he looks someway like my uncle :D
bennington1993 11 months ago
It seems like either you listen to rise against and it's your favorite band, or you completely hate them.
TKT is awesome too though. And Rise Against is my favorite band.
PoolKattt 11 months ago
damn i would never think this guy is from rise against
TheCandygirl115 1 year ago
@TheCandygirl115 I know eh, my bud introduced me to RA, and later to TKT, and I just lept for joy at how insane that was
Twowrist 1 year ago
@TheCandygirl115 why not? it's easy to hear
pongsitchingy 8 months ago
how many albums do they have under this band name? i found two of itunes but are there more?
PingerBBS 1 year ago
@PingerBBS 2 albums and one EP
ReneBrain 1 year ago
@ReneBrain
no
they only have 1 full album, and two EPs
thrilllex 1 year ago
@thrilllex yes, sorry ^^ the last ep is for me like an album =D
ReneBrain 1 year ago
@ReneBrain
XD
thrilllex 1 year ago
1:48
frootloopwarriors 1 year ago
OMG thats sounds so freaking awesome!!!
and when i heared this the first time i seriously got an eargasm at 0:55 xD
TheTroebner 1 year ago
This version is better but I hate how they took out the spoken verse part! That part was awesome in the original! It reminded me of Mandatory Suicide by Slayer.
MrFlopz 1 year ago
"replace my heart with your machine and see if it still bleeds. I'll cover my tracks so you can't trace this accident to me."
whateverwhatever44 1 year ago
This is a hundred times better than any rise against
soundcheck127 1 year ago
nat really their both pretty much the same
slamajamaZ 1 year ago
@slamajamaZ Have you listened to the other version? The guitar is barely audible at certain parts. For example, 0:57 doesn't sound nearly as good on the original version. Plus, they dubbed Tim's voice too low in the original. His voice also sounds a lot better during the chorus in this version. There are plenty of differences.
MrFlopz 1 year ago
@MrFlopz Because that versions off an older and lower quality ep. This is the Romance of Helen Trent recording, which was recorded in 2002 in a better studio. :D
frootloopwarriors 1 year ago
Saw Tim live in Molson Ampitheater July 31st 2009. Best day of my life. Although it was with RA, he still does an AMAZING job. His screams that he does for RA are just as good as they were for TKT
2000barrie 1 year ago 2
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whateverwhatever44 2 years ago
omfg.
i love the lyrics oO
nataschanyle 2 years ago 4
why is it that the more i listen to this it sounds more different than the first time i heard this song
jrsorellana 2 years ago
cause it's tkt ^^
ReneBrain 2 years ago 5
@jrsorellana it could be because they made two versions of it. one in 2000. one in 2002.
FlawedHopes 2 years ago
@jrsorellana
Cause the first time wa sthe version off Bury Me At Make-Out Creek, why do I know this, cause I've just realised I'm the same
Slob92 1 year ago
I wish people would fucking open their ears and listen to good music like the killing tree, such a shame that they stopped recording. RA and TKT fucking rock
MrSatellite41 2 years ago 64
@MrSatellite41 amen to that brother!! :DDD i frikin love them! everything Tim touches turns to gold!!!!!!!!!!!! <3
Changeling1844 11 months ago
@MrSatellite41 agreed. No other music like it really. Rise against used to be good when they had Dan Precision but they suck now.
riseoveruin 10 months ago
@riseoveruin hey...todd was also great...don't forget, todd played in tkt and ra...great guitarist, he is my inspiration
ReneBrain 10 months ago
@ReneBrain yes thats true. The Unraveling and Revolutions per minute were RA's best albums in my opinion.
riseoveruin 10 months ago
fuuuuck....tim mcllrath is no human....i sing/scream this song once and my voice is done now....fuck.....respect!
SuperTensaZangetsu 2 years ago 59
maybe because you are not trained =D
ReneBrain 2 years ago 4
@ReneBrain Naaaaaaah cuz Tim´s just da best :P Gonna see em at 1st July :D
Schubijak 1 year ago
@SuperTensaZangetsu
Man, Tim does super screamo shit. It's fuckin sick haha!!
DBZman500 7 months ago
If the next album of RA is not so good, i have some alternatives like this ;) TKT!
NoNameAlliance 2 years ago 2
i have a feeling the new album will be better
check out "death blossoms" and "voice of dissent"
TheRiseAgainstxD 2 years ago 3
but that's are not new somngs, they alsp rcorded them while they recorded the othe appeal songs, but they haven't put them on the album..
ReneBrain 2 years ago
that's what grammatizator and voice of dissent were, it was an EP from appeal to reason
Rowan62 2 years ago
@ReneBrain that means rise against never really changed then, because they had those types of songs written, they just never got through the company. I knew geffen would find way to fuck up this band.... shoudla stuck with fat
SkzZjz 1 year ago
i really dont give a shit about what anyone else has to say about rise against, because rise against will always be one of my favorite bands, but i do have to agree that they have changed, and not for the best, but the killing tree is absolutly fucking amazing, and so is baxter, another awesome tim mcllrath band, which no one seems to have heard of
me2231000 2 years ago 9
a lot of rise fans know baxter, but a lot of them don't like them. me too, this is unprofesssionell funband, with a cracked voice of the leadsinger, i don't like that
ReneBrain 2 years ago 2
@ReneBrain I agree with you
I'm a fu**ing big fan of Rise Against. I saw them like 3 or 4 times in 2 years. I met them one time.
I love RA songs. Baxter was a good band but I still prefer The Killing Tree and Rise Against
CanadaFolk22 2 years ago 2
dude ur so lucky i had a couple chances to see them but missed them both =(
ffireball88 2 years ago
its purposeful , the cracked voice i mean
jrsorellana 2 years ago
hey guy, i love Baxter
=D
VegAgainstDisregard 2 years ago
Rise Against < The Killing Tree
IMO
OneHundredDemons 2 years ago
i love them both equally. tkt is really fucking good though.
WillCreary 2 years ago 5
Ya I see where you are coming from, I used to really dig Rise Against. I guess it's a good think TKT wasn't around long enough to turn into a shit band though. I honestly can't stand RA's new material at all. It's so fucking generic.
OneHundredDemons 2 years ago
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oh my god no shit! the new album made me want to kick tim in the face. actually it's probably not tim's fault, but zach's. it's his first album with the band and it's also their worst. appeal to reason failed. hopefully their new album coming out late 2010 will be better.
WillCreary 2 years ago
this guy didnt do too well on the lyrics >.>
antiXcitizenXone 2 years ago
There are still a couple lyrics I can't figure out.
And muffle this bell with the
hand of pessimism
and render it useless.
He says something after pessimism and before that last part, but I can't seem to find the lyric anywhere.
pizzlepazzle 2 years ago
i heard one word and it was: die. i cant figure out the rest for you,
jimmyboo5 2 years ago
I think he says something like "it starts again" but that wouldn't make any sense..
nomyek200 2 years ago
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this sounds like rise against gone metal...NO!!
Ortizsensei 2 years ago
dude this is HARDCORE
summin2say 2 years ago 5
This is nowhere near metal.. it is hardcore, the music Rise Against used to make once.
RiseAgainst90 2 years ago
it just happens to be heavy but its still awesome
AlbertoRoa38 2 years ago
ehm dude.. that's kinda what i said :P i just ment that Rise Against used to make ''heavy'' music 2 :P
RiseAgainst90 2 years ago
lyrics somewhat remind me of the new song replace my heart (the end) by blue october
lordoftheowl 3 years ago 2
Ich finde man kann sich auch das erste Album von Rise Against anhören (the unraveling), dass hört sich meiner Meinung nach oft sehr ähnlich an.
aerocef123 3 years ago
nach was hört sich untaveling ähnlich an?
ReneBrain 3 years ago
ich meine "The killing Tree" hört sich finde ich stark nach dem Stil von the unraveling an
aerocef123 3 years ago
vllt, aber die gitarre ist deutlich anders und es ist nicht so bass lastig...
tim verbindet beides, bei tkt ist seine stimme sehr rau und heiser, das hat das anrühige des ersten albums
ReneBrain 3 years ago
z.b. "dressed to fuck" von tkt... wo er dann so singt: "we never die...never die"
hört sich so an wie bei rise against - drones
"walk out by...walk out by"
ThaLegendKilla 2 years ago
I love how this song sounds
:]
sassygirl2010 3 years ago
Why does he sound exactly like the lead singer of Rise Against????? Did he used to be in this band or some shit?
hesaid15 3 years ago
he is the leadsinger...(i answered to your message)
ReneBrain 3 years ago
no offense to any big fans of the killing tree but I think I like the way Tim sings in rise against more. I don't really like the screaming, I mean I know this isn't screamo music but still understand these are my opinions.
mocha4500 3 years ago 4
yea man i agree completely, i like the mellowness of rise against, but every once in awhile everybody has to listen to screaming type music, realease anger and shit
forhead13 3 years ago 5
rise against is viel besser!!!
xXaduseileisXx 3 years ago
rise against is definatly better but killing tree is okay it im not a heavy heavy metal person but i like rise against stuff
fwcprodutions 3 years ago
since when is rise against "heavy heavy metal" ?? xDD
USDblader69 3 years ago
ich denke er meint das tkt heavy metal is...und nicht ra...hoff ich zumindest :D
ReneBrain 3 years ago
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fraggletiger 3 years ago
Awesome, but Rise Against is better.
skater1chick1 3 years ago 5
who is talking at the beginning of the song?
riseagainstrulz204 3 years ago
helen trent...this is the person who talks to tim about another guy or something and she fell in love with him...
she talks through the telephone with tim through the whole album...it's a little story...
ReneBrain 3 years ago
I really doubt the woman talking throughout the CD is Helen Trent. The Romance of Helen Trent was an old radio broadcast show that aired for a bazillion years. The show had similar themes such as heartbreache and relationshp pain, which Is way i believe they named the Cd this. But the audio is really neat, ties the CD together.
okok986 3 years ago
the audio on this album came from a bag of 113 cassette tapes found in a dumpster in chicago by billy roberts (forgotten four/ loop distro). me and my friend jonathan menjivar edited a bunch of them together into a 15-minute piece which we shared with tim. the killing tree used excerpts throughout the album. still not sure who the actual girl is in the recordings...
davy/Found Magazine
davyfound 2 years ago 3
wow, interesting, thanks for the information :)
ReneBrain 2 years ago
if thats true (and im not saying i doubt that it is) then thats incredible.
mcpimsticks 2 years ago
that's incredible :o
any other interesting tim/rise against info?
WillCreary 2 years ago
No offense mate but i dont believe that for shit...
what do you mean this came from cassette tapes that makes no sense... its clearly not cut and pasted and since it came out in 2002 and the earliest release of TKT is 2000 i doubt they would have recorded the album on to tapes
not been the 80's for quite a while now man.
it would have been even a little bit believable if you didnt drop the names in there
actually no cos if you knew tim that well you wouldnt care what kids on youtube think
toysindahood 2 years ago
he don't mean the album, he means the audio of the woman was on tape...you must read the comment right..
ReneBrain 2 years ago
what you mean that tiny bit of audio at the start of the track that means nothing, could be any amount of samples... i doubt this douche had anything to do with anything on these albums man.
toysindahood 2 years ago
pessimist. halts maul xD
you are self a douche =D
ReneBrain 2 years ago
Dude thats awesome! Has The Killing Tree ever performed live?
cdynckl 2 years ago
yes they did
ReneBrain 2 years ago
Was it before Rise Against was formed?
cdynckl 2 years ago
no, it the bands existing parallel at the same time
ReneBrain 2 years ago
no ;)
NoNameAlliance 2 years ago
the killing tree.... sigh... amazing
riseagainst05050 3 years ago 2
damn straight
thewonderfulferret 3 years ago
all these pics u have r of tim in rise against now
ffireball88 3 years ago
xD...i know :D
do you think i am stupid? :D
it's because i do not have many tkt pics
but not all are from rise against :P
ReneBrain 3 years ago
whatever band Tim sings for..it will be amazing.
no arguments.
Gwamus 3 years ago 3
Too true his voice is The best :D
bovvered1 3 years ago 2
2000
war9suck9my9balls 3 years ago
Someone can answer to me this? This song is from 2002 or 2000?
rockanimevids 3 years ago
2002 off of the album, The Romance Of Helen Trent.
crookkedd313 3 years ago
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pizzlepazzle 2 years ago
<3 yayyy
PancakioMosa 3 years ago
Replace My Heart with this machine and see if it still bleeds... i'm Learning this song!!
RFFguitarist 3 years ago 2
this song is awesome...if i can play guitar better i want to learn this song too..but it's a pretty long song..so this will be a lot's of work :)
ReneBrain 3 years ago
i've got some friends, they know the song too, and they want to learn to play songs of TKT...
rockanimevids 3 years ago
wicked :]
VoCKillz123321 3 years ago
this is my jam i watch this vid everyday
okgo12345 3 years ago
The singer sounds like Tim Mcilrath
dbh259 3 years ago
it is Tim McIlrath...he was the leadsinger of this band...
ReneBrain 3 years ago
you didnt look at any of the pictures in the video?
MrFroster 3 years ago
you mean me or dbh259?
ReneBrain 3 years ago
dhb259
MrFroster 3 years ago
No he means you, because ya'know you didn't look at the video before putting it up on youtube.
Hypocrisies 3 years ago
?...i watch the vids everytime before i am uploading them...
ReneBrain 3 years ago
It's sarcasm.
Hypocrisies 3 years ago
ak ok ;)
ReneBrain 3 years ago
how could it be 2002 when rise against formed in 1999
ffireball88 3 years ago
It's a side project.
PrecisionBassist 2 years ago