Wow I like how you said evolutions and adaptations always happen for the better that in it self is not necessarily always true. It depends on natural selection.
If you define "better" as having a higher chance of surviving in the current environment, then yeah it's true... unless you're talking about mutations, which is something else entirely, then yes, most mutations are harmful or do nothing.
Random mutation is always degenerative,proven fact that you will never believe, because you want believe what ever you want. A machine of parts can not assemble it's self. every cell is made of trillions of cartilage like parts, even the most simple. Every one knows GOD exist, but only Lie's to his heart so that they can sin without gilt. - GOD.
Ok when I SAY GOD I mean the Father of Jesus Christ. I'm a self assembling machine, I think we can all see the absurdness in that statement, sounds like that terminator guy that exploded from being frozen and smashed to pieces and then reassembled its self(he had a creator). That makes me laugh. The only groups that abandon the truth if any, were to weak to endear pressure, or were staged by the luciferians who run the world. watch "Riddles in stone", its on google video.
1. You started as a single cell and then your DNA and RNA proceeded to assemble your current self out or raw materials. Amazing I know, but a fact never-the-less! "Machine" doesn't always have to mean "metal." There are organic (carbon based) machines as well.
2. Ok, if you believe conspiracies then you simply need to study epistemology.
Epistemology is the study of evidence and can help you determine the difference between real evidence and BS.
It seems to me that You and many like you are tolerant of Christan belief and willing to at least admit the possibility of God.. I don't understand why many Christians cannot permit the possiblity that we evolved.. The Bible is not a science text book.. I don't believe it was ever intended by it's author to be one.. To debate the Scientific with the Spititual is idiocy. Thank you for your tolerance and acceptance.
Couldn't agree more... I don't understand why the Earth being thousadns of years old is SO important but loving your neighbor.. Ehhh.. Not so Much.. If "Christians" did what Christ told them to the rest of the world would look and say.. "Wow maybe there is somethig to this thing" Instead they see the Hypocracy and Judgment and they dismiss the entire thing.. Christians had created far more Atheists than science ever will..
When life first came to land, there was nothing but plants and stuff there. The organism didn't really need to compete with anything, and it was able to escape it's preditors too because they were water bound.
When the octopus evolved, there were already successful land animals there that would eat it up, never giving it a chance to evolve better land-dwelling features. Some may have tried to go onto land, but they probably were promptly eaten.
I'm sorry but you're wrong. There's numerous documented cases of natural selection providing a very, VERY non-random influence on which genes get passed on throughout generations.
I think you might not even know what you don't know. You should check out this great link for some great details and evidence!evolution . berkeley . edu (with spaces removed.)
Yeah that was a weak part of the film. What I was hoping would come accross is how VFX's view of random mutation this bizarre fictional idea that's based on a video game (resident evil) and not reality. So VFX's view is not "random" persay, but "freakishly incorrect"
That's possible I suppose. It seemed to me he was passing that off as reality, but I could be wrong.
The video is called
"Venomfangx Apologizes to the Internets" It's mirrored all over youtubes, so if you search it, I'm sure you'll find it. It was first posted on Thunderf00t's channel.
It's referring to the evolutionary concept of the "Ecological niche." If you knew even a bit about it, you'd realize how sound of an theory it is. On the other hand, that WOULD require reading a book...and books have tons of that english stuff you guys so deplore.
This is a pretty strong theory really, Its more along the lines of you lacking an understanding.
Yes it could have left the water with the right circumstance, but it didn't. The Octopus evolved to suit its environment, and because there was no major driving force to make it seek shallow water. So it didn't need to adapt, and quite possibly still doesn't need to now.
So thats it delete my comments if ur so ashame of urself. Paulmarko, is not VFX NOR GOAT ur the one that is full of contradictions. SO GO AHEAD DELETE!
i belive that theres two short of people the ones who r cool and the ones who are malakes. let me give you an example: you r a malaka .. greekdvd is cool ... its as simple as that .. thats my evolution theory
i agree Greekdvd.... this is shit thats why is called a theory ..i could also argue that even is our dna is 98% relative to a chimp.. this has nothign to do with out evolution.. we are hwere and will be humans thats all there is to it we have to ability to control the material world and create it in various ways and that where we draw the line between a bounch of monkeys and humanity.....
Yes greekdvd, Paulmarko and his crew are monkeys! That's what they believe in. The theory of evolution....wich is what I previously stated....so the Bible was written by monkeys eh? It wasn't written by God. All these revelations in the bible that are actually occuring today were all written by monkeys? Wow I don't know what kind of super bananas they were eating but geeez I wan't some!!!! You see Paulmarko, you're making a fool of yourself for nothing. The answer is infront of you...THE BIBLE!
This video is intended for MATURE ATHEIST oddience that descend from monkeys, viewers discretion is adviced. Atheists rate this video and put that banana in ur mouth cuz you really need it.
Ok, so you suggest that we humans descent from monkeys? Fine if you wan't to be a monkey be one. Me I'm a human that has been created by God. You, you where a tinny little bacteria in the water, that transformed into a fish and a few billion years later became from fish to monkey and from monkey to Human! Wow!! What a journey!!
You're close, See, not all mokeys made the trip to human, you apparently got left behind. Do you think I wouldn't notice that you made a brand new canadian account just to heckle?
btw I didn't created a new account, u my friend is a LIAR to humanity. That person ther is not me. So keep having that guy g0at up to ur ass and GOD that monkey ass gotta hurt and don't forget to have that super banana in ur mouth too.
Paulmarko dude, VFX is full of contradictions. A fool is someone who knows right from wrong but doesn't believe it. You Paulmarko know that your friend VFX is wrong, but yet you chose the wrong path, the path to foolishness by defending a guy that has no arguments, can't refute facts, can't answer simple questions and contradict himself. Now that is foolish.
About time you got it straight! That mo Fo' VFX is tootally full of contradictions! He wouldn't be able to tell his head from his ass if the bible didn't tell him!
These 2 videos are not live video. They've been compiled and edited. As you could see, some sequences are been repeated. And for that matter it shows more that VFX look to be a fool while he is not. Goat says that mutation is not random and in the end he keeps on repeating that THE ACTUAL MUTATION MIGHT BE RANDOM. I don't see why VFX won't brought back that subject again. The fool he is the one that contradict himself and don't gets his fact clear. And thers no point editing video to fool people
I'm sory but you're wrong there. g0at NEVER said that mutations weren't random. He only said that EVOLUTION wasn't random. VFX used deceptive editing to make it look like g0at did say mutations weren't random.
I only edited for length, not for content. I encourage people to watch all original materal.
If you think I got their intended meanings wrong, please point out the exact time codes in the original videos and I will revise this video to reflect the truth.
If you listen to Goat in his original video, you could clearly hear a video from what he listen from his computer. Goat is actually basing on others videos to back himself up instead of doing research like VFX. And constanly repeats what his video says. I'm sorry but Goat is a weak person, and we hardly understands what he is trying to explain because logicly it just don't make any senses.
Regarding g0at listening to videos: Can you please point me to the video and time code in which he does this please? I never notice this before.
g0at does casually reference complex ideas as though everyone knows about them. He doesn't break everything down into sylligisms like VFX does. This DOES result in some breaks in logic unless you know exactly what he's talking about. Please point to exactly what doesn't make sense and I'll try and clear it up for you. You can use timecodes.
And if you want to listen to g0at listening to videos, you got to listen to the original version of it, bc in ur edited version thers this FUNNY background music thats sounds like an old Charlie Chaplin movie.
In his video "Re: Answering Skeptics (2 of 2)" Which this is a reply to, the only video g0at listens to is VFX's. He does this in order to do a line-by-line reply of VFX's arguments. So I don't get why you say "Goat is actually basing on others videos to back himself up..."
That music underneath is Art Tatum, arguably the greatest pianist ever.
Also, please thighten up your grammer. It's very difficult to understand.
you said goat never said that mutation weren't random? so why does he says "I know that mutation is not random, is just not random, is a natural selection with DNA...., you keep on saying random chance but the ACTUAL MUTATION MIGHT BE RANDOM" and that part was from ur own video, the original and VFX edited version. Well.... that just reflect the truth.
Where does he say that mutations aren't random. Can you point me to a timecode?
Are you sure you don't have the subjects confused? Because he DOES say that EVOLUTION isn't random. But I'm pretty sure he never says mutation isn't random..
If we talk about ur video here is at 0:21, he says MUTATION and not EVOLUTION is RANDOM. and where did I typed MUTATION AREN'T RANDOM??? Read all my comments first b4 you take my words wrong because if that so, this video is so. And the pure gold is the TRUTH. Now you could clear it out urself.
and it ENDED with..... say it!.... BUT THE ACTUAL MUTATION MIGHT BE RANDOM! Mutation is not random but it might be random????!! How big is this contradiction?? You know what, I just prove you the point. If you don't wanna correct it and clear it urself, thats not my problem and thers no point of arguing either.
Ahh, I see what you're doing. You're pointing out the apparent intrinsic contridiction in g0at's statement.
If you watch his original video you can see that he's not contradicting himself. The subject of the first half of the sentance is "evolution" and the second part is "mutation" He's saying that evolution is NOT random, but mutation IS random, which is not a contradiction at all.
Long post made short, I wasn't talking about your video. I was replying to Valkes. As far as you not blindly supporting a stance, I disagree with you. And if not you, then many other atheists. I turn you to Ben Stein's "Expelled." I'm just trying to say that it is human nature to cling to your beliefs, not Christian nature. Won't you even admit that?
You're totally right! It's human nature for people in a group to zeliously cling to a belief, especially when threatened.
Science is all about cutting through this base instinct to find the undeniable truth. Just like a crime scene. We find evidence to show us what happened.
I try to live like a scientist. If I am wrong on a point I WANT people to criticize me and let me know exactly where and why I'm wrong, so I can fix it and become a better person.
...that make it look like he's saying things that he's not. It's rather ridiculous to say that Christians cling to their beliefs and shut their ears. So do atheists. It's human nature. Get over it.
If I'm misrepresenting what VFX said, Let me know where, what he really meant and I'll change the video!
These videos are different from most. They're trying to cut through the bullshit, so if anyone thinks I got anything wrong, let me know.
I fully believe I represended VFX's position correctly, and I fully believe I've figured out where VFX misrepresented g0at, but I'm human and make mistakes.
I DONT zeliously and blindly support a stance. We can train ourselves to overcome that.
Yes, well atheists cling to their arguments too. I've brought up (and VenomFangX touched on this) that us evolving to who we are was never observed. Nor was an experiment performed. Thus, evolution is not proven - and far from it. Every time I bring it up, they dismiss it. I don't think anybody responded to Venom's arguments on this that us evolving was never observed. And all atheists seem to hate him. When they don't have an answer, they make stupid videos...
The worst part is it doesn't matter what you say or do, or how many times you scream, and rant, and prove them wrong. They just justify ignoring you, and fall into their little bubble of idiocy. You can counter every point with 100 others, and it doesn't matter. you could toss their god at their feet bleeding battered and broken, and they'd still go on believing. It's pointless, entirely pointless. There's really nothing we can do.. except hope that the important people ignore this shit.
PCS does more to harm christianity by lying for his Jesus than he ever does to help it. Thank you for putting this together, I only wish that more of PCS's sheep would watch it.
Well done! Shows that VFX is either a retard (for not being able to understand g0at's points), or simply a dishonest bastard (for misrepresenting his position). Not really sure what it is. Probably the second, I think.
haha this is all assumptions though. I think and i will make it a fact that ITS NATURAL SELECTION because its true because i say it is. is pretty much what this video says.
Since VenomFangX has consistently had dishonest behavior, I'd have to say that VFX is the liar.
While you might view him as an 'ally' of sorts, since he is a fellow Christian, you have to be aware that fellow Christians can be wrong.
And in this situation, VFX is most definitely wrong. Evolution is both an overwhelmingly verified fact and theory. Unfortunately, he has foolishly made evolution the enemy of Christianity, when it is perfectly compatible.
Well I do beleive in Christianity, which also would mean I like to listen to VFX. He really explains things well. But in this situation he is in, I guess he can be lieing but I don't know.
Yu should like listening to VFX if you find his arguments correct, NOT because he's just another Christian like you.
That he is a manipulative, quote mining, intellectually dishonest muppet is little more important. His identity as a Christian should be irrelevant next to this.
WHERE IS THE PROOOOOOOOOF? Do you believe everything teachers tell you in science? science has been changing over the years over and over flaws after flaws.
my dog turned into a cat! I SAW IT WITH MY EYES AND RECORDED IT.
1. This video shows how VFX doesn't listen, all the proof is right there.
2. I grew up with creation science, and yes I did question my "teachers".
3. science has been changing, but change for the better is good! Aren't you glad we don't leach people anymore?
4. A dog turning into a cat would be proof of something supernatural. If that did happen "Evolutionary Theory" would have to be replaced with "Instant Transformation Theory". Fortunately, It's HIGHLY unlikely that'd ever happen.
From the example you give as to what you think evolution is I can tell you do not know the first thing about it. Please do some research into this subject before stating such foolish remarks.
I don't know why anyone is surprised at his behavior, VFX like many other Christians and religious people in youtube are not interested in honestly debating ideas that might contradict their religion.
Once you forgo the idea that you "might" be wrong about something, you no longer care to debate that very thing.
Fuck i could torture that bitch VFX for months. I would rape him with a cross. What a lying, hateful little maggot. He has a sign on his forehead that says "Please kill me, i'm an ass".
Wow. I thought this would be super complex or something. But, it was as detailed as it needed to be. ONE point over and over. He just needed to listen to ONE thing! lol VERY NICE!
This is awesome!!! VFX is such a douche. g0at is a cool guy and indeed the greatest of all time. I'm subscribing to you paulmarko lets see what you've got.
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Gee, all you athiests having a problem with VFX tells me that he's effective in getting out his message. Otherwise, you'd not be spending so much time trying to challenge his videos.
VFX completely ignored everything that g0at said. VFX is dishonest on many, many levels. How does that dishonesty make him a good Christian or a good representative of Christ?
VFX just posted another video where he at least sounds like he understands some principles of evolution. Now he's claiming that no mutation adds complexity to organisms? wuhhh? He also says that if good mutation stopped then animals would just have bad mutation. Wuhh? I never heard that in science class.
EPIC WIN.
RaustBD 2 years ago
Wow I like how you said evolutions and adaptations always happen for the better that in it self is not necessarily always true. It depends on natural selection.
hellsing3000 2 years ago
If you define "better" as having a higher chance of surviving in the current environment, then yeah it's true... unless you're talking about mutations, which is something else entirely, then yes, most mutations are harmful or do nothing.
NoeLPZC 2 years ago
VFX's smirking attitude is really insufferable.
jamesjeffreypaul 2 years ago 6
A Dr.Horrible fan, are we? Good music, good video, good job.
Pandamusicks 2 years ago 4
Thanks! I do have a soft spot in my heart for Dr. Horrible
paulmarko 2 years ago
Awesome video...5 stars
Thanatos546 3 years ago
nice one 5 stars for you.
Sadochrist 3 years ago
Eyeballs in your neck and Limbs in your forehead
Those could be REALLY useful!
Surathan 3 years ago
ROFL... nice man, thanks for the video :P
Bobbert209 3 years ago
Absolite pwnage.
Alpha1Bravo1Charlie1 3 years ago 3
ha, good job, pwned.
TheFunnybone 3 years ago 2
Random mutation is always degenerative,proven fact that you will never believe, because you want believe what ever you want. A machine of parts can not assemble it's self. every cell is made of trillions of cartilage like parts, even the most simple. Every one knows GOD exist, but only Lie's to his heart so that they can sin without gilt. - GOD.
dleviis 3 years ago
1. Even creationist groups like AIG have abandoned this argument. You need to update your info past Kent Hovind, my friend.
2. You're a self-assembling machine.
3. You're referring to the most simple MODERN cell. Primitive replicating molecules were much different.
4. God may or may not exist. You nor I have any idea.
5. Even if there was no God I'd still feel guilt if I hurt my fellow man.
And when you say "-GOD" I think you mean "-KJV Bible." You shouldn't pretend undue authority.
paulmarko 3 years ago
Ok when I SAY GOD I mean the Father of Jesus Christ. I'm a self assembling machine, I think we can all see the absurdness in that statement, sounds like that terminator guy that exploded from being frozen and smashed to pieces and then reassembled its self(he had a creator). That makes me laugh. The only groups that abandon the truth if any, were to weak to endear pressure, or were staged by the luciferians who run the world. watch "Riddles in stone", its on google video.
dleviis 3 years ago
1. You started as a single cell and then your DNA and RNA proceeded to assemble your current self out or raw materials. Amazing I know, but a fact never-the-less! "Machine" doesn't always have to mean "metal." There are organic (carbon based) machines as well.
2. Ok, if you believe conspiracies then you simply need to study epistemology.
Epistemology is the study of evidence and can help you determine the difference between real evidence and BS.
3. Video was interesting but full of BS
paulmarko 3 years ago
It seems to me that You and many like you are tolerant of Christan belief and willing to at least admit the possibility of God.. I don't understand why many Christians cannot permit the possiblity that we evolved.. The Bible is not a science text book.. I don't believe it was ever intended by it's author to be one.. To debate the Scientific with the Spititual is idiocy. Thank you for your tolerance and acceptance.
JiuJitsuAddict 3 years ago 3
thats one thing i do not understand about christians, why are they so utterly un christ like?
if jesus had a youtube channel, would he censor comments? would he ignore people's arguments? would he not allow video responses?
having religion is great, but creationists really do a dis service to religion.
mxdirector 3 years ago 2
Couldn't agree more... I don't understand why the Earth being thousadns of years old is SO important but loving your neighbor.. Ehhh.. Not so Much.. If "Christians" did what Christ told them to the rest of the world would look and say.. "Wow maybe there is somethig to this thing" Instead they see the Hypocracy and Judgment and they dismiss the entire thing.. Christians had created far more Atheists than science ever will..
JiuJitsuAddict 3 years ago 2
Goat:anyway,and so all life came from the water
...but as its slowly being produced...it doesn't
need the same stuff that our eyes need,and so
it stopped there......
giocicco 3 years ago
When life first came to land, there was nothing but plants and stuff there. The organism didn't really need to compete with anything, and it was able to escape it's preditors too because they were water bound.
When the octopus evolved, there were already successful land animals there that would eat it up, never giving it a chance to evolve better land-dwelling features. Some may have tried to go onto land, but they probably were promptly eaten.
paulmarko 3 years ago
Evolution doesn't care.Becasue its RANDOM.
giocicco 3 years ago
becasue=because.
giocicco 3 years ago
I'm sorry but you're wrong. There's numerous documented cases of natural selection providing a very, VERY non-random influence on which genes get passed on throughout generations.
I think you might not even know what you don't know. You should check out this great link for some great details and evidence!evolution . berkeley . edu (with spaces removed.)
paulmarko 3 years ago
fenom fang x does tell the truth and i believe
him.
giocicco 3 years ago
He does tell the truth sometimes, but he does lie. Quite frequently in fact.
There's video proof of him admiting to numerous lies, even slanderous ones. I can give you the link if you'd like.
paulmarko 3 years ago
Well then you are also a deluded idiot.
Brenho 3 years ago
1:02 you fool,that is random.how can you
say its not?!
giocicco 3 years ago
Yeah that was a weak part of the film. What I was hoping would come accross is how VFX's view of random mutation this bizarre fictional idea that's based on a video game (resident evil) and not reality. So VFX's view is not "random" persay, but "freakishly incorrect"
paulmarko 3 years ago
He was using(resident evil)it to describe
today's view of random mutation among most
individuals.Anyways,uhm...i would like to see
the link to "admiting numerous lies" you speak
of,i would really like to see it and figure out
what went wrong.
giocicco 3 years ago
That's possible I suppose. It seemed to me he was passing that off as reality, but I could be wrong.
The video is called
"Venomfangx Apologizes to the Internets" It's mirrored all over youtubes, so if you search it, I'm sure you'll find it. It was first posted on Thunderf00t's channel.
paulmarko 3 years ago
cute!
directedchaos 3 years ago
It's referring to the evolutionary concept of the "Ecological niche." If you knew even a bit about it, you'd realize how sound of an theory it is. On the other hand, that WOULD require reading a book...and books have tons of that english stuff you guys so deplore.
paulmarko 3 years ago
you theory on octopus is not strong ... it could of gotten out ofthe water ? what do u think
pkaramb 3 years ago
This is a pretty strong theory really, Its more along the lines of you lacking an understanding.
Yes it could have left the water with the right circumstance, but it didn't. The Octopus evolved to suit its environment, and because there was no major driving force to make it seek shallow water. So it didn't need to adapt, and quite possibly still doesn't need to now.
MoonHeadJohn 3 years ago
For more information people google the world malaka it will give you the hole definition and various verbs forms and adjectives
pkaramb 3 years ago
I love "hole" definitions! Are they almost like normal definitions?
paulmarko 3 years ago
So thats it delete my comments if ur so ashame of urself. Paulmarko, is not VFX NOR GOAT ur the one that is full of contradictions. SO GO AHEAD DELETE!
greekdvd 3 years ago
:)
I wonder it I did that to make you intentially look bad?
:)
No way! Monkeys can't do that sort of trickery!
paulmarko 3 years ago
i belive that theres two short of people the ones who r cool and the ones who are malakes. let me give you an example: you r a malaka .. greekdvd is cool ... its as simple as that .. thats my evolution theory
pkaramb 3 years ago
If that's the case then Malakes must mean "Not Mentally challenged"
paulmarko 3 years ago
paulmarko ... greekdvd has just the same right as not beliving into the theory just as u do when u belive it... personaly i do not!
pkaramb 3 years ago
Oh wait.. a reasonable comment snuck in here somehow...
Yes, you're right. Everyone can believe whatever they want to believe. That's kinda bit obvious isn't it?
paulmarko 3 years ago
but some people forget that
pkaramb 3 years ago
i agree Greekdvd.... this is shit thats why is called a theory ..i could also argue that even is our dna is 98% relative to a chimp.. this has nothign to do with out evolution.. we are hwere and will be humans thats all there is to it we have to ability to control the material world and create it in various ways and that where we draw the line between a bounch of monkeys and humanity.....
pkaramb 3 years ago
Lol, what kind of loser gets all his friends together to post mentally insubstantial comments on a random youtuber's video?
"I know guys! Since we can't get laid! Lets all post on this YouTube video to show the WORLD how we christians do! Christians represent"
paulmarko 3 years ago
Us we use are logic to understand, you use ur... true ur a monkey you don't have logic AHAHAHAHA
greekdvd 3 years ago
It's kind've hard to use syllogistic logic when you have such a cursory understanding of english.
Garbage in, Garbage out as they say...
paulmarko 3 years ago
Yes greekdvd, Paulmarko and his crew are monkeys! That's what they believe in. The theory of evolution....wich is what I previously stated....so the Bible was written by monkeys eh? It wasn't written by God. All these revelations in the bible that are actually occuring today were all written by monkeys? Wow I don't know what kind of super bananas they were eating but geeez I wan't some!!!! You see Paulmarko, you're making a fool of yourself for nothing. The answer is infront of you...THE BIBLE!
ParkXCrew 3 years ago
This video is intended for MATURE ATHEIST oddience that descend from monkeys, viewers discretion is adviced. Atheists rate this video and put that banana in ur mouth cuz you really need it.
greekdvd 3 years ago
lol. OMG. You should try atheism. We have the BEST bananas!!
paulmarko 3 years ago
Ok, so you suggest that we humans descent from monkeys? Fine if you wan't to be a monkey be one. Me I'm a human that has been created by God. You, you where a tinny little bacteria in the water, that transformed into a fish and a few billion years later became from fish to monkey and from monkey to Human! Wow!! What a journey!!
ParkXCrew 3 years ago
So Paulmarko is a monkey? I mean, eating bananas doesn't real make you a smart person.
greekdvd 3 years ago
Lol, your wit is profound! banana's huh? Have you considered stand up?
paulmarko 3 years ago
Nice grammar for a monkey or could had been from a butterfly too since you said not all monkey made the trip to human. Too bad you can't prove it.
greekdvd 3 years ago
lol, I can prove it to you! Just look into a mirror, monkey boy.
Your teachers must be so dissapointed that you never learn, that is, if they haven't givin up on you already.
Your english teacher probably has carpal tunnel from writing "run-on sentance" on your papers.
paulmarko 3 years ago
You're close, See, not all mokeys made the trip to human, you apparently got left behind. Do you think I wouldn't notice that you made a brand new canadian account just to heckle?
paulmarko 3 years ago
btw I didn't created a new account, u my friend is a LIAR to humanity. That person ther is not me. So keep having that guy g0at up to ur ass and GOD that monkey ass gotta hurt and don't forget to have that super banana in ur mouth too.
greekdvd 3 years ago
You're probably right. There are tons of users with 0 watched videos who just pick one at random and feverishly comment on it.
Who just happen to be from Canada...
And just happen to about the same age...
And it's just coincidence that they are just as juvinile.
Oh wait...I wonder if it's one of your equally sharp friends expressing his razer-wit.
paulmarko 3 years ago
Paulmarko dude, VFX is full of contradictions. A fool is someone who knows right from wrong but doesn't believe it. You Paulmarko know that your friend VFX is wrong, but yet you chose the wrong path, the path to foolishness by defending a guy that has no arguments, can't refute facts, can't answer simple questions and contradict himself. Now that is foolish.
ParkXCrew 3 years ago
About time you got it straight! That mo Fo' VFX is tootally full of contradictions! He wouldn't be able to tell his head from his ass if the bible didn't tell him!
paulmarko 3 years ago
This video is pure gold!
5 stars
TheRedneckAtheist 3 years ago
These 2 videos are not live video. They've been compiled and edited. As you could see, some sequences are been repeated. And for that matter it shows more that VFX look to be a fool while he is not. Goat says that mutation is not random and in the end he keeps on repeating that THE ACTUAL MUTATION MIGHT BE RANDOM. I don't see why VFX won't brought back that subject again. The fool he is the one that contradict himself and don't gets his fact clear. And thers no point editing video to fool people
greekdvd 3 years ago
I'm sory but you're wrong there. g0at NEVER said that mutations weren't random. He only said that EVOLUTION wasn't random. VFX used deceptive editing to make it look like g0at did say mutations weren't random.
I only edited for length, not for content. I encourage people to watch all original materal.
If you think I got their intended meanings wrong, please point out the exact time codes in the original videos and I will revise this video to reflect the truth.
paulmarko 3 years ago
If you listen to Goat in his original video, you could clearly hear a video from what he listen from his computer. Goat is actually basing on others videos to back himself up instead of doing research like VFX. And constanly repeats what his video says. I'm sorry but Goat is a weak person, and we hardly understands what he is trying to explain because logicly it just don't make any senses.
greekdvd 3 years ago
Regarding g0at listening to videos: Can you please point me to the video and time code in which he does this please? I never notice this before.
g0at does casually reference complex ideas as though everyone knows about them. He doesn't break everything down into sylligisms like VFX does. This DOES result in some breaks in logic unless you know exactly what he's talking about. Please point to exactly what doesn't make sense and I'll try and clear it up for you. You can use timecodes.
paulmarko 3 years ago
And if you want to listen to g0at listening to videos, you got to listen to the original version of it, bc in ur edited version thers this FUNNY background music thats sounds like an old Charlie Chaplin movie.
greekdvd 3 years ago
In his video "Re: Answering Skeptics (2 of 2)" Which this is a reply to, the only video g0at listens to is VFX's. He does this in order to do a line-by-line reply of VFX's arguments. So I don't get why you say "Goat is actually basing on others videos to back himself up..."
That music underneath is Art Tatum, arguably the greatest pianist ever.
Also, please thighten up your grammer. It's very difficult to understand.
paulmarko 3 years ago
you said goat never said that mutation weren't random? so why does he says "I know that mutation is not random, is just not random, is a natural selection with DNA...., you keep on saying random chance but the ACTUAL MUTATION MIGHT BE RANDOM" and that part was from ur own video, the original and VFX edited version. Well.... that just reflect the truth.
greekdvd 3 years ago
Where does he say that mutations aren't random. Can you point me to a timecode?
Are you sure you don't have the subjects confused? Because he DOES say that EVOLUTION isn't random. But I'm pretty sure he never says mutation isn't random..
Let me know. I would like to get this sorted out.
paulmarko 3 years ago
If we talk about ur video here is at 0:21, he says MUTATION and not EVOLUTION is RANDOM. and where did I typed MUTATION AREN'T RANDOM??? Read all my comments first b4 you take my words wrong because if that so, this video is so. And the pure gold is the TRUTH. Now you could clear it out urself.
greekdvd 3 years ago
You typed it right here:
"so why does he says "I know that mutation is not random, is just not random, is a natural selection with DNA."
paulmarko 3 years ago
and it ENDED with..... say it!.... BUT THE ACTUAL MUTATION MIGHT BE RANDOM! Mutation is not random but it might be random????!! How big is this contradiction?? You know what, I just prove you the point. If you don't wanna correct it and clear it urself, thats not my problem and thers no point of arguing either.
greekdvd 3 years ago
Ahh, I see what you're doing. You're pointing out the apparent intrinsic contridiction in g0at's statement.
If you watch his original video you can see that he's not contradicting himself. The subject of the first half of the sentance is "evolution" and the second part is "mutation" He's saying that evolution is NOT random, but mutation IS random, which is not a contradiction at all.
So when he says:
Evolution = not random
Mutation = random
It's not a contradiction!
paulmarko 3 years ago
Ahh, I see what you're doing. You're pointing out the apparent intrinsic contridiction in g0at's statement THANK YOU IS ALL I NEED T KNOW!
greekdvd 3 years ago
"apparent" means it "appears to be so
I admit, it looks that way because I clipped a bit off the front of his argument.
If you go back to his original video, you'll see that he was indeed referring to Evolution first, then mutation second.
I do make the assumption that you understand basic english. Perhaps that was too much to hope for...
paulmarko 3 years ago
Long post made short, I wasn't talking about your video. I was replying to Valkes. As far as you not blindly supporting a stance, I disagree with you. And if not you, then many other atheists. I turn you to Ben Stein's "Expelled." I'm just trying to say that it is human nature to cling to your beliefs, not Christian nature. Won't you even admit that?
sk8teh14 3 years ago
You're totally right! It's human nature for people in a group to zeliously cling to a belief, especially when threatened.
Science is all about cutting through this base instinct to find the undeniable truth. Just like a crime scene. We find evidence to show us what happened.
I try to live like a scientist. If I am wrong on a point I WANT people to criticize me and let me know exactly where and why I'm wrong, so I can fix it and become a better person.
paulmarko 3 years ago
eh, scientists can be resistant to ideas sure, just like every person on the planet. But picking Expelled to showcase that face? Poor choice.
That movie was absolutely filled with misrepresentations, outright lies, questionable editing, etc...
Point out that Einstein was resistant to the idea of quantum mechanics or black holes because they offended his sense of aesthetics.
He did come around in the end though, and accepted that the evidence and maths supported them.
ValeofAldur 3 years ago 2
...that make it look like he's saying things that he's not. It's rather ridiculous to say that Christians cling to their beliefs and shut their ears. So do atheists. It's human nature. Get over it.
sk8teh14 3 years ago
If I'm misrepresenting what VFX said, Let me know where, what he really meant and I'll change the video!
These videos are different from most. They're trying to cut through the bullshit, so if anyone thinks I got anything wrong, let me know.
I fully believe I represended VFX's position correctly, and I fully believe I've figured out where VFX misrepresented g0at, but I'm human and make mistakes.
I DONT zeliously and blindly support a stance. We can train ourselves to overcome that.
paulmarko 3 years ago
Yes, well atheists cling to their arguments too. I've brought up (and VenomFangX touched on this) that us evolving to who we are was never observed. Nor was an experiment performed. Thus, evolution is not proven - and far from it. Every time I bring it up, they dismiss it. I don't think anybody responded to Venom's arguments on this that us evolving was never observed. And all atheists seem to hate him. When they don't have an answer, they make stupid videos...
sk8teh14 3 years ago
The worst part is it doesn't matter what you say or do, or how many times you scream, and rant, and prove them wrong. They just justify ignoring you, and fall into their little bubble of idiocy. You can counter every point with 100 others, and it doesn't matter. you could toss their god at their feet bleeding battered and broken, and they'd still go on believing. It's pointless, entirely pointless. There's really nothing we can do.. except hope that the important people ignore this shit.
Valkes 3 years ago
No. 4
Liar
chacinelias 3 years ago
=.= wtf this video makes no sense... Im sticking with VFX hes got it down.
Evolution is totally false
slugfriend 3 years ago
What areas are you having trouble with? I'm trying to make it as clear as possible and am open to suggestions on making it clearer.
All I'm trying to say is that VFX is misrepresenting g0ats position, to make it look weaker then it truly is.
paulmarko 3 years ago
Lmao, I love this. 'Oh noes, I can't understand this! I'll stick with my ignorance <3'
Renzosuken 3 years ago 2
Oh this is fucking beautiful! Nicely done!
itsjustmax 3 years ago
Your four possibilities are too exclusive. Here's another: he doesn't understand.
IntrigueIs 3 years ago
Hehe, you're right. I was hoping that one would fit under the umbrella of "he's dumb" I'll add that one as an annotation.
paulmarko 3 years ago
PCS does more to harm christianity by lying for his Jesus than he ever does to help it. Thank you for putting this together, I only wish that more of PCS's sheep would watch it.
jebus6kryst 3 years ago 2
Well done! Shows that VFX is either a retard (for not being able to understand g0at's points), or simply a dishonest bastard (for misrepresenting his position). Not really sure what it is. Probably the second, I think.
jnoort 3 years ago
Shawn's rebuttle is that natural selection is not evolution.
Did this guy ever take a science class?
Lookatmeimdriving5 3 years ago 2
I find that ironic because natural selection is a theory put fourth to explain evolution. natural selection does not work in any other context.
jebus6kryst 3 years ago
haha this is all assumptions though. I think and i will make it a fact that ITS NATURAL SELECTION because its true because i say it is. is pretty much what this video says.
xchampx 3 years ago
Wrong, this video says 1 thing: that VFX is either dumb or lying about g0at's position.
This video makes no mention of whether or not g0at is right.
paulmarko 3 years ago
You wish lol
Dadsgirl240 3 years ago
Lol that was great editing nice work!
leejw00t354 3 years ago
Lol!! XD
Dadsgirl240 3 years ago
Why didn't you post g0at's quote of "The mutation itself may be random, but..."?
Rokker4life 3 years ago
I did.
:22
paulmarko 3 years ago
I don't know !!!!!!!! Who's the liarrrr. Need more information! I'm stupid! HEEELP MEEEE
Dadsgirl240 3 years ago
Since VenomFangX has consistently had dishonest behavior, I'd have to say that VFX is the liar.
While you might view him as an 'ally' of sorts, since he is a fellow Christian, you have to be aware that fellow Christians can be wrong.
And in this situation, VFX is most definitely wrong. Evolution is both an overwhelmingly verified fact and theory. Unfortunately, he has foolishly made evolution the enemy of Christianity, when it is perfectly compatible.
ZeppelinRocker16 3 years ago
Well I do beleive in Christianity, which also would mean I like to listen to VFX. He really explains things well. But in this situation he is in, I guess he can be lieing but I don't know.
Dadsgirl240 3 years ago
lying about what? don't get yourself mixed up with these atheists. In the end they really can't PROVE anything.
xchampx 3 years ago
he was lying about g0at's position.
c'mon dude, it's not hard to understand.
paulmarko 3 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
Oh, wow thats right. This g0at freak is an atheist, VFX OWNS!!
JESUS FREAK! FTW! (FOR THE WIN)
Dadsgirl240 3 years ago
There is nothing remotely intelligent about this comment, so nothing intelligent to be said against it.
You're acting like a moron, plain and simple.
TheNeognostic 3 years ago
Yu should like listening to VFX if you find his arguments correct, NOT because he's just another Christian like you.
That he is a manipulative, quote mining, intellectually dishonest muppet is little more important. His identity as a Christian should be irrelevant next to this.
TheNeognostic 3 years ago
O.O
Dadsgirl240 3 years ago
WHERE IS THE PROOOOOOOOOF? Do you believe everything teachers tell you in science? science has been changing over the years over and over flaws after flaws.
my dog turned into a cat! I SAW IT WITH MY EYES AND RECORDED IT.
That my friend would be proof.
xchampx 3 years ago
1. This video shows how VFX doesn't listen, all the proof is right there.
2. I grew up with creation science, and yes I did question my "teachers".
3. science has been changing, but change for the better is good! Aren't you glad we don't leach people anymore?
4. A dog turning into a cat would be proof of something supernatural. If that did happen "Evolutionary Theory" would have to be replaced with "Instant Transformation Theory". Fortunately, It's HIGHLY unlikely that'd ever happen.
paulmarko 3 years ago
From the example you give as to what you think evolution is I can tell you do not know the first thing about it. Please do some research into this subject before stating such foolish remarks.
jebus6kryst 3 years ago
Bravo, paulmarko!
emwharton 3 years ago
best pwn of VFX yet i think
hilarious...
1337Ideaman 3 years ago
GOD DAMN VFX, ITS NOT RANDOM!!!!
QueeeeNoftheHonEBZ 3 years ago
VFX pwned this sucka
pologeo17 3 years ago
I think you've got it backwards
Lookatmeimdriving5 3 years ago 3
VFX Pwned sucka!!!
pologeo17 3 years ago
I don't know why anyone is surprised at his behavior, VFX like many other Christians and religious people in youtube are not interested in honestly debating ideas that might contradict their religion.
Once you forgo the idea that you "might" be wrong about something, you no longer care to debate that very thing.
philosophystudent 3 years ago
this is fascinating...VFX is ridiculous!
VSDRUMS 3 years ago
This was so awesome. VFX destroyed!
JazzPanda 3 years ago
This is just funny. Really.
Vinifera7 3 years ago
Good work, mate. This showcases Venom's dishonesty rather directly. It's blatantly obvious to anyone without their faith blinders on.
Doctrinius 3 years ago
Fuck i could torture that bitch VFX for months. I would rape him with a cross. What a lying, hateful little maggot. He has a sign on his forehead that says "Please kill me, i'm an ass".
IC1101 3 years ago
seriously? just for being dishonest?
you sound worse then he does, beliefs aside...
ComfortTactics 3 years ago
Wow. I thought this would be super complex or something. But, it was as detailed as it needed to be. ONE point over and over. He just needed to listen to ONE thing! lol VERY NICE!
Fichte9233 3 years ago
lol yeah some good editing in this video.
ComfortTactics 3 years ago
Haha, brilliant.
Saukko31 3 years ago
"Gee, all you athiests having a problem with VFX tells me that he's effective in getting out his message."
Imams asking people to blow themselves up is effective - yet I doubt you would agree that what they preach is 'true' or 'correct.'
Have you nothing to say about the fact that this video quite casually destroys VFX's strawman argument without breaking a sweat?
Nys0 3 years ago
Redundant, thorough, and nice^^
HumanStrategy 3 years ago
This is awesome!!! VFX is such a douche. g0at is a cool guy and indeed the greatest of all time. I'm subscribing to you paulmarko lets see what you've got.
Pinkcrusader 3 years ago
great vid. and i really like the music
ThePirateGrog 3 years ago
Thanks!
It's Dr Horribles Sing-along Blog for the intro and extro.
Art Tatum (the greatest pianist who's ever lived) under the clips.
paulmarko 3 years ago
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Gee, all you athiests having a problem with VFX tells me that he's effective in getting out his message. Otherwise, you'd not be spending so much time trying to challenge his videos.
Raymond1967 3 years ago
He's a lying prick who convinces stupid people using bad information. That's why people spend so much time challenging his bullshit.
EtherealAntichrist 3 years ago 2
VFX completely ignored everything that g0at said. VFX is dishonest on many, many levels. How does that dishonesty make him a good Christian or a good representative of Christ?
ElusiveAnole 3 years ago 2
First of all, I never said I was an Atheist.
Second, You've discovered the problem. VFX has gotten his message out to thousands.
Thousands of people might believe his lies and misrepresentation...
He's lying about g0at, who's a decent, honest guy and I won't stand for it!
paulmarko 3 years ago
VFX just posted another video where he at least sounds like he understands some principles of evolution. Now he's claiming that no mutation adds complexity to organisms? wuhhh? He also says that if good mutation stopped then animals would just have bad mutation. Wuhh? I never heard that in science class.
darkforce333 3 years ago