yep peter hook is awesome. do you know exactly what bass he used on unknown pleasures? i'm sure it wasn't that yamaha copy of a ricky he plays in the videos.
@olegsokolov Well, it's atonal, that's why it occasionally sounds messed up...Hook often combined open strings with notes that wouldn't ordinarily go together, at least in rock, so there's a certain disharmony. But yeah, my playing is also not perfect...
Do you only play with a pick, or do you use your fingers as well? I'm switching from guitar to bass - or trying to- and trying to decide which to do primarily.
@roundtablenerds I also started off as a guitarist, so I primarily play with a pick, but in the last few years I learnt to play with fingers too. It all depends on what music you want to play. If it's mainly rock, then go with the pick, but it's always useful to be able to play other styles too.
@roundtablenerds As a bass player, I can tell you the decision to play with a pick or fingers totally depends on which sound you like better (pick sounds different from fingers etc) and which style is more comfortable for you. Theres no right or wrong way, dont listen to people who criticize pick players.
@DuaLeaD Yeah, "blueburst' is no more - it was 'colour of the year' for 2007 and so a limited edition. So, either look for a used one, or go for the 'Midnight Blue", which is also a pretty cool colour in my opinion...
@okra552 Yeah, I own a Rickenbacker 620 6-string guitar in "Midnight Blue" with the "cresting wave" body style. It's still a great color, but yours is so much prettier....I envy you ~_^ Thankyou for the info sir!
It took me 41 takes of a song until I could play with out my thumb hanging over...someone commented that it looked like a worm sticking out of a hole and it's bothered me since and I pass that onto you because you are awesome.
@martyman5000 Yeah, I know - with the thumb firmly behind the neck you can play much better, but to have the bass slung low the worm must appear... so I guess I'm sacrificing precision and technicality for cool ;-)
@okra552 FLCL lol its a show. of epic proportions. A girl with a blue rickenbacker hits a kid with it and robots start coming out. He has his own and owns the shit out of em.
I once owned the Midnight Blue and a Fireglo 4003. I still don't feel that the 4003 ever captured that really great 'twang' sound the 4001 had, but you are right, they are perfect for Joy Division songs - well, Hooky did play a Fireglo 4001.
@liquid679 Yes, of course that makes technical sense, but in terms of style, authenticity and coolness, a Rickenbacker playing Joy Divison must be slung low - see how Peter Hook does it - where the thumb cannot, and does not need to be employed as you suggest.
All Ricks are pricey, but maybe you could find one of the Hondo II copies that were around in the 80's, or the more recent Tokai copies, but these are all fairly pricey too...
Good luck with getting one. I had to wait for a year just to get my rickenbacker 4003 jetglo. They're never in stock. High company music stores hardly have them in stock.
Oooooo... I love ricks so much... its my dream bass guitar. I'm saving money to get one, dont know what color though... but its definitely going to be a while
As far as I know, the 'colour of the year' thing has been discontinued while they catch up on back orders, so you're limited to just black, midnight blue, natural and fireglo. Maybe they'll do limited runs again in the future, but don't expect it soon....
i read somewhere that peter hook used a rickenbacker copy in jds early days, rickys have always been a bit lacking in low end for me, theyre still great instruments though
Love will never tear us apart! Great song! I ordered my Ricky 4003 in Jetglo and will have it next week. I'm so excited, and this video got me even more excited! Great playing
That is indeed a *beautiful* bass, and in great condition as well:I personally like the lighter Blueburst to the darker Midnight Blue. Great playing as well! - your pickstyle technique is great, as can be heard in the octaves, double-stops and "drone-string" playing... nicely done!
Midnight Blue is certainly cool, but I just love being able to see the wood grain peeking through, plus the walnut wings on the headstock. All Ricks are great, through...
hi, when was your ric made? I have a rickenbacker 4003 JG made in 2004, but I can't remove that treble pick-up cover. on the ric site it says it's a handrest, but I won't be able to remove it somehow, that singe-coil pick up is attached with screws to the pickup-cover, could you help me with this? rics rule by the way, best basses in the world :D
My 4003 was made in 2007. Don't worry, you definitely can remove the pick-up cover, although it's a bit tricky. Google Joey's Bass Notes - he has the details (for some reason I can't paste the link here, sorry).
no, it's ok. I've read it, it's easy to do. thank you. First time I did it I removed the entire treble cover, and it made a few tiny scratches on my ric, but I've read it now and it all makes sense :-) thanks again!
They *are* roundwounds! A bit old, though. And I wasn't playing at full 'growl' because my crappy amp was sounding muddy. Check out my second JD video, it's more growly there....
How much did you pay for your rickenbacker mate its looks beautiful and do you know witch rickenbacker peter hook had 4001 or 4002 i not sure thank you
So happy to hear some of joy division song played on bass, especially a Rickenbaker. Thanks !
raphaelgibson 2 weeks ago
DAT BASS :O
superperson666 2 months ago
@olegsokolov this is a technique Peter Hook often uses known as "creativity"
samsky 2 months ago 4
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samsky 2 months ago
Mega bass! One of my favourite videos on YouTube, watch it nearly everytime I come online. Get some more videos up!
rickenbackercas 2 months ago
nice!
stralioni 3 months ago
good job man, haha ironic that yure using a better bass than peter hook did while playing with joy division
qoakzm2qoakzm 3 months ago
top job mate,great vid
wetdtyuu 3 months ago
Malfoy? O.o
shockzrock 3 months ago
i decided to not buy new bass until i will have money for a rick :(
nierealnaKOLABORACJA 4 months ago
AHHH I wish I could afford that! SO BEAUTIFUL T_T, Nice playing btw
HurpADervish 4 months ago
@HurpADervish Thanks!
okra552 4 months ago
I hate that they discontinued this color, and the autumnglo.
FriendlyShadow1 4 months ago
@FriendlyShadow1 Yeah, the 'colours of the year' were awesome...so glad I managed to get one before they stopped...
okra552 4 months ago
8 people are just pissed cause they cant afford that bass, i know i am, but im not one of the 8 xD
EilidhlovesA7X 5 months ago
@EilidhlovesA7X ;-)
okra552 4 months ago
yep peter hook is awesome. do you know exactly what bass he used on unknown pleasures? i'm sure it wasn't that yamaha copy of a ricky he plays in the videos.
The300x300 6 months ago
@The300x300
You've got it a bit mixed up. He used a Hondo II Ric copy for UP, before switching to a Yamaha BB1200 by Closer.
rutleronn 5 months ago
@rutleronn oh ok. didn't he also use one of those shergold basses at one point?
The300x300 5 months ago
@The300x300 Yes, his 6-string bass is a Shergold.
rutleronn 5 months ago
@rutleronn And in my opinion there was a noticeable lack of power when he switched to the Yamaha, especially live...
okra552 4 months ago
Great work. Sounds fantastic on a Ricky. Hooky would be proud.
nietzchebaby 6 months ago
@nietzchebaby Ta very much...
okra552 4 months ago
My favourite Band... on My favourite Bass.... Thank you sir
Jerd888 6 months ago 6
@Jerd888 Your welcome...
okra552 4 months ago
take care ofthe open strings, sounds messed up
olegsokolov 7 months ago
@olegsokolov Well, it's atonal, that's why it occasionally sounds messed up...Hook often combined open strings with notes that wouldn't ordinarily go together, at least in rock, so there's a certain disharmony. But yeah, my playing is also not perfect...
okra552 4 months ago 4
You play it better than Hooky LOL...mind you that isn't hard :)
Nicely done mate. Stunning bass....try some Chris Squire from early Yes...perfect for that bass and more challenging
wesmatron 7 months ago
@wesmatron Cheers, mate!
okra552 4 months ago
Youre a brit Scott Pilgrim
OfivetwoekVeeDee 8 months ago
@OfivetwoekVeeDee nobody benefits from this reference
0ZAZU 7 months ago
oh the terrible things i would do for a rickenbacker....
Bassisbeastiful 8 months ago 2
thumbs up if you clicked only because of the rickenbacker
ragnaroksama 9 months ago 67
@ragnaroksama Cheeky fucker...
okra552 9 months ago 25
where'd you get your rickenbacker from? i'm lookin for a blue one, thanks
PandaFilmz 10 months ago
@PandaFilmz Tokyo - so that's probably not much help to you ;-)
okra552 10 months ago 4
@okra552 yeah obviously not man
PandaFilmz 9 months ago
That's such a gorgeous rickenbacker, my god.
TheNeonBlues 10 months ago
Do you only play with a pick, or do you use your fingers as well? I'm switching from guitar to bass - or trying to- and trying to decide which to do primarily.
roundtablenerds 10 months ago
@roundtablenerds I also started off as a guitarist, so I primarily play with a pick, but in the last few years I learnt to play with fingers too. It all depends on what music you want to play. If it's mainly rock, then go with the pick, but it's always useful to be able to play other styles too.
okra552 10 months ago
@okra552 rock can be played with your fingers too....
look at steve harris...geddy lee...
ninjaxbassxkid 7 months ago
@roundtablenerds As a bass player, I can tell you the decision to play with a pick or fingers totally depends on which sound you like better (pick sounds different from fingers etc) and which style is more comfortable for you. Theres no right or wrong way, dont listen to people who criticize pick players.
charliegrs 8 months ago
Not bad at all!
norbertocastro 10 months ago
nice sound!!!
wachorugua 10 months ago
@IgniteTheProphecy
It was actually a Hondo copy of a Rickenbacker. But it sounded like the real thingy.
porkchopsalad 11 months ago
It super good man!
alotofcheese76 11 months ago
Nice job!!!! I'm sure Hook would be happy!
kcdirtslinger 1 year ago
nice rieckenbacker
Radar1zone 1 year ago
rickenbacker are truly the best guitar-and bass makers ever!
lawrence096 1 year ago
Your bass is absolutely gorgeous! I am also gunning for a 4003 bass....Was your "Blueburst" color discontinued?? I only see "Midnight Blue" :((
DuaLeaD 1 year ago
@DuaLeaD Yeah, "blueburst' is no more - it was 'colour of the year' for 2007 and so a limited edition. So, either look for a used one, or go for the 'Midnight Blue", which is also a pretty cool colour in my opinion...
okra552 1 year ago
@okra552 Yeah, I own a Rickenbacker 620 6-string guitar in "Midnight Blue" with the "cresting wave" body style. It's still a great color, but yours is so much prettier....I envy you ~_^ Thankyou for the info sir!
DuaLeaD 1 year ago
wow! thats pretty epic! how much did you pay for it? ive been in love with this bass since the first time i layed eyes on it!
winterblast32 1 year ago
@winterblast32 It was about $2,200 - and worth every penny!
okra552 1 year ago
@winterblast32 hell ya! thanks for the reassurance man! im gonna save all my money till i own my Rickenbacker! keep up the good work!
winterblast32 1 year ago
@IgniteTheProphecy You don't need the tabs - just watch closely!
okra552 1 year ago 2
It took me 41 takes of a song until I could play with out my thumb hanging over...someone commented that it looked like a worm sticking out of a hole and it's bothered me since and I pass that onto you because you are awesome.
martyman5000 1 year ago
@martyman5000 Yeah, I know - with the thumb firmly behind the neck you can play much better, but to have the bass slung low the worm must appear... so I guess I'm sacrificing precision and technicality for cool ;-)
okra552 1 year ago
1:33 I love U!!
EST139 1 year ago
@EST139 Thanks, but if you saw my face you wouldn't say that ;-)
okra552 1 year ago
Love the tone, great video
nick1229312293 1 year ago
transmission from joy division is a cool bass riff and great play friend
004482rb 1 year ago
@004482rb it's a great bass riff (and fantastic song), but with just two notes it's a bit too minimalistic...
okra552 1 year ago
go hit a japanese 12 year old boy with it...And see what happens...
yoznfroogurt 1 year ago 3
@yoznfroogurt huh?
okra552 1 year ago
@okra552 FLCL lol its a show. of epic proportions. A girl with a blue rickenbacker hits a kid with it and robots start coming out. He has his own and owns the shit out of em.
yoznfroogurt 1 year ago
@yoznfroogurt Oh cool! I just checked it out - thanks for that. Living in Japan I suppose I should've known about it already...
okra552 1 year ago
Cool playing, video, and bass! One suggestion: the bass needs to hang well below your knees if you are shooting for true Peter Hook style. ;)
w3bt3k 1 year ago
@w3bt3k very true, mate - have to get me a longer strap...
okra552 1 year ago
Peter Hook may have not been a virtuoso bass player, but his style is unlike any other. He is definitely one of my favorite bassists. Nicely done!
ryancaryn0209 1 year ago
If I only had $2000. :(
Zefunker 1 year ago
@IgniteTheProphecy if you wanna give away your midnight blue i wouldn't mind having it :P
BREAKocean 1 year ago
sick bass man :P
shyzzaman 1 year ago
Im a fan of Rickenbackers. Im a fan of Joy Division. Im a fan of british accents. In short: flawless victory.
goneshootin22 1 year ago 5
@goneshootin22 Cheers, mate!
okra552 1 year ago
Really enjoyed that.
americanzoomer 1 year ago
Joy Divsion got me into bass:]
FroznPanda 1 year ago
That bass my dream made of wood and iron. it sounds extremely extreme
megamicron 1 year ago
Love will tear us apart might not be the most complicated bassline as you said in your video, but what a masterpiece!
bbBassYo 1 year ago
@bbBassYo It shows that you need ultra fast, extremely hard bass and guitar lines to make fantastic music.
HawK047 1 year ago
I need to buy a ricky bass.
zuzu1022 1 year ago
I use some overdrive on my Rickenbacker. I come from the Lemmy angle y'know? :)
Alembic25 1 year ago
thats one shiny ass fretboard!
sunnyjim98 1 year ago 8
@sunnyjim98 Yep, all Rickenbackers have lacquered fretboards - might not be to everyone's taste, but I love 'em...
okra552 1 year ago
@okra552 I'm a great fan of Joy Division, like your bass :) Greatings from Portugal...
Diabokid12 1 year ago
They do sound amazing!
rldaniels95 1 year ago
Love it dude!
ChrisCarter1983 1 year ago
@ChrisCarter1983 Thanx!
okra552 1 year ago
Verry Good =) =) =) =) !!! <3<3<3<3<3
joybass27 1 year ago
@joybass27 Ta very much...
okra552 1 year ago
@okra552 =D
joybass27 1 year ago
Nice job,............ You oughta make a joy division bass tab tutorial for youtube. I love Peter hooks work.
glyanez 1 year ago
@glyanez dude, they're really easy to figure out lol, just find the notes by ear
Ombrenuit 1 year ago
I once owned the Midnight Blue and a Fireglo 4003. I still don't feel that the 4003 ever captured that really great 'twang' sound the 4001 had, but you are right, they are perfect for Joy Division songs - well, Hooky did play a Fireglo 4001.
IntellectualAmy 1 year ago
I WANT THIS BASS!! :S is so xpensive, is it? :(
c2celia 1 year ago
Get your thumb behind that neck, man!
liquid679 1 year ago
@liquid679 We're not playing jazz, here, mate ;-)
okra552 1 year ago
@okra552 The thumb behind the neck will give you the greatest reach and range of movement in your fingers. It's good practice
liquid679 1 year ago
@liquid679 Yes, of course that makes technical sense, but in terms of style, authenticity and coolness, a Rickenbacker playing Joy Divison must be slung low - see how Peter Hook does it - where the thumb cannot, and does not need to be employed as you suggest.
okra552 1 year ago
I've heard that the Tokai ones are well-made and sound pretty good too...
okra552 2 years ago
All Ricks are pricey, but maybe you could find one of the Hondo II copies that were around in the 80's, or the more recent Tokai copies, but these are all fairly pricey too...
okra552 2 years ago
Definitely in love with this sound ...
borntobewild3 2 years ago
OMG A BLUEBURST RICK PLAYING JD!!!
*in love*
xinannax 2 years ago 4
and now i buy a new bass for my band.
TLaitharex 2 years ago 12
Good luck with getting one. I had to wait for a year just to get my rickenbacker 4003 jetglo. They're never in stock. High company music stores hardly have them in stock.
confess5 2 years ago
Oooooo... I love ricks so much... its my dream bass guitar. I'm saving money to get one, dont know what color though... but its definitely going to be a while
Nocookiepuffs4u 2 years ago 4
beautiful bass and beautiful sounds. how much did it cost you?
senorcardgage678 2 years ago
Thanks. It cost 226,000 Japanese Yen, which would be about $2,100...
okra552 2 years ago
Does anyone now if they are going to start make the Rickenbacker 4003 blue burst bass again?
crawlbat89 2 years ago
As far as I know, the 'colour of the year' thing has been discontinued while they catch up on back orders, so you're limited to just black, midnight blue, natural and fireglo. Maybe they'll do limited runs again in the future, but don't expect it soon....
okra552 2 years ago
joy division
Cu1t06 2 years ago
u know Peter Hook used hondo rick copy
louiscfc93 2 years ago
WTF! What a waste of 5 seconds!
kiplingroad1 2 years ago
i read somewhere that peter hook used a rickenbacker copy in jds early days, rickys have always been a bit lacking in low end for me, theyre still great instruments though
TheRealVolanaro 2 years ago
dude, that sounds amazing great work
SirGrotius 2 years ago
The songs you named were the only ones I know XD
Nick5379 2 years ago
Never mind I wasn't paying attention XD
a lot of things make me XD
Nick5379 2 years ago
hahaha that made me laugh :)
cygnusx211268 2 years ago
Love will never tear us apart! Great song! I ordered my Ricky 4003 in Jetglo and will have it next week. I'm so excited, and this video got me even more excited! Great playing
cygnusx211268 2 years ago
Nice. I like the blue, but may get a Greco copy, it's cheaper and sounds almost like the real thing.
Keep them coming.
MrPantone123 2 years ago
that sounds like a chorus of angels. i wish i had that bass
sooperkid321 2 years ago 3
That is indeed a *beautiful* bass, and in great condition as well:I personally like the lighter Blueburst to the darker Midnight Blue. Great playing as well! - your pickstyle technique is great, as can be heard in the octaves, double-stops and "drone-string" playing... nicely done!
scarred2112 2 years ago
Thanks, mate!
okra552 2 years ago
sweet. love JD
Cu1t06 2 years ago
Nice bass...brings back fine memories....nice work dude!
steveharkonnen 2 years ago
i you see a ricky bass buy it as they are getting harder to find
rogerthehat 2 years ago
Nice sound!
flowerlike42 2 years ago
Joy division is the best band ever
Limetalimetalimeta 2 years ago 27
heey man this is cooooool!!!You are great musician
Limetalimetalimeta 2 years ago
mate that sounds absolutly amazing, top class 5 stars
CriffaD 2 years ago
Is that a pick you're using?
Joy Division sounds great with a pick. Especially Love Will Tear Us Apart.
XxGaloyxX 2 years ago 2
A pick? Of course! You can't do JD without one...
okra552 2 years ago
I agree.
XxGaloyxX 2 years ago
and of course hes playing a Rick, everyone knows you play a rick with a pick :P
superaltman 2 years ago
thank you soo much I love those bass lines! joy division rocks watch the movie Control if you haven't yet
glasses92 2 years ago
Yeah, great film...love it
okra552 2 years ago
nice ric, in about one month i´ll get mine (FG).
yes, you´re right, those basslines sound great on the ric.
nice playin, btw!
gus23a 2 years ago
Thanks! The Fireglo is the second best colour - after Blueburst, of course! ;-) You made the right choice - each Rick is a work of art...
okra552 2 years ago
Yeah I got midnight blue which is close to Blueburst but without the color fade. I couldn't be happier but i do like bluebursts better.
Bassplyr1470 2 years ago
Really? I like my Midnight Blue better than the 'burst styles...the color is just so deep, & hypnotizing.
Each to his own I guess.
falcon45ca 2 years ago
Midnight Blue is certainly cool, but I just love being able to see the wood grain peeking through, plus the walnut wings on the headstock. All Ricks are great, through...
okra552 2 years ago
That's a good point, I almost chose a Mapleglo because of the headstock grains.
Excellent playing by the way!
falcon45ca 2 years ago
hi, when was your ric made? I have a rickenbacker 4003 JG made in 2004, but I can't remove that treble pick-up cover. on the ric site it says it's a handrest, but I won't be able to remove it somehow, that singe-coil pick up is attached with screws to the pickup-cover, could you help me with this? rics rule by the way, best basses in the world :D
JAMproductions9193 2 years ago
perhaps it is the horseshoe pick-up,
so you cant remove this sing?
just an idea.
gus23a 2 years ago
My 4003 was made in 2007. Don't worry, you definitely can remove the pick-up cover, although it's a bit tricky. Google Joey's Bass Notes - he has the details (for some reason I can't paste the link here, sorry).
okra552 2 years ago
no, it's ok. I've read it, it's easy to do. thank you. First time I did it I removed the entire treble cover, and it made a few tiny scratches on my ric, but I've read it now and it all makes sense :-) thanks again!
JAMproductions9193 2 years ago
i love rickenbaker
joybass95 2 years ago
This was brilliant, some nice basslines and IMO the most sexiest of all the basses!
Dizzae 2 years ago 3
dude, i understand it's personal preference, but you gotta put some roundwounds on that ricky to make it really growl
jesjes21 2 years ago
They *are* roundwounds! A bit old, though. And I wasn't playing at full 'growl' because my crappy amp was sounding muddy. Check out my second JD video, it's more growly there....
okra552 2 years ago
mean bass, joy division are next level obviously
M1K3R0LPH 2 years ago
I have a black aria with gold hardware llaying somewhere upstairs , i love rickens , try some cliff burton stuff its a real challenge
cliffthelightning 2 years ago
you're a best
joybass95 2 years ago
Peter Hook never played a Rickenbacker!
captainbillshatner 2 years ago 2
Right - he had a Hondo II copy.
okra552 2 years ago
Sorry for stating the obvious. I thought it was a Ric for a long time and ended buying a 77 4001. They do have a great sound.
captainbillshatner 2 years ago
And where is Transsmision? haha
nice bass sound and color, good player
kitzOgen 2 years ago 2
Transmission - that's only two notes! ;-)
okra552 2 years ago
you're a best
joybass95 2 years ago
thats a sick bass bro!
hectorchecktor 2 years ago
Very nice bass. so do you speak Japanese? Level with me.
darrenandsarah123 3 years ago
Well, I get by on a basic level. My listening ability is better than my speaking...
okra552 3 years ago
Rickenbacker is sick.
Joy Division is great.
A+
xnatewx 3 years ago
ooh that rickenbacher sounds sexy
LoganBridges 3 years ago
Blue burst huh... pretty nice.
Aspartamebraintumor 3 years ago
Really LOVE IT.
Good work , great bass
HiddenArcadia 3 years ago
peter hook did not use a ricky it was a copy i think either hondo or shaftesbury
pauldavtzn 3 years ago
It was a Hondo II
okra552 3 years ago
Sweet job, man!
BobDylan1201 3 years ago
maaan 3 things i love in this video:
1- your bass (its amazing!)
2- the medley ; very good stuff
3- ur british accent xD
xXxXHitmanXxXx 3 years ago
impressive! very well played. love the ric, thinkin about gettin one myself :D!
nash1820 3 years ago
Rickens are out of price and even impossible to buy in countries like France :-(
Anyway, you are not always close to the lines; notably on "From safety to where", the original is more sparse and spacey.
Thanx for your vid.
erixoff 3 years ago
How much did you pay for your rickenbacker mate its looks beautiful and do you know witch rickenbacker peter hook had 4001 or 4002 i not sure thank you
joydivisionrule 3 years ago
I bought it in Tokyo for the equivalent of about $2,200....worth every cent (or yen!)
Peter Hook played a Hondo II, which was a cheap unauthorised 4001 copy...he never used a real one.
okra552 3 years ago
o please play love wil tear us apart
liammusic12 3 years ago