Ian Thorpe Beneath the suit - The stroke

[elinfiernoentusojos]

michael phelps disliked this video...

[thefuckingman4567]

khavelkova,can u make under the suit video about michael phelps?????so i can compared these two awesome swimmer swiming style

[kimcheboy]

put size 17 fins on my feet and i guarantee u i swim like ian thorpe

[International1ify]

I've been swimming for 2 years, and have been making massive strides. But its its crazy to know that I could not even get close to keeping up with the thorpedo for 25m of a 400m freestyle.

[ShinGoonMin]

The best AQUAMAN on the planet! I love Ian and I'm so happy he'll be competing in London 2012. ...And I'm from Maryland; sorry Phelps, you just don't have IT. LOL

[ripbaloff]

2:01 OF ALLLLLLLLL TIME

[samuel76100]

BEATIFUL... EXCELLENT...



[Teghead]

Yeah it's a shame the animation is nothing like Thorpe's stroke.

[BoxyTheSpaceDog]

More or less they have described the freestyle(crawl) stroke.Not much of Ian was there.Those are all basics of freestyle swimming,nothing more.Nice educative video but nothing more than that.

[erlanfranck]

power?? thanks !!

[erlanfranck]

what he says there heeeeeeeeeelp?

[TheLeilisa]

swimming would help you grow taller ?

[erlanfranck]

if he allows his body position to be completely horizontal to the waterline it will lose WHAT of the kick???????????????????????? help?

[cargalpi]

@erlanfranck The power, I think...

[drionshk]

If you have a rather powerful leg kick then it would be more efficient to have your body a little less horizontal to give more power to the kick. Since your kick is very powerful, it will create more thrust than the amount of drag caused by the non-horizontalness... for lack of a better term.

if your kick isn't all that powerful, then you are probably better off staying more horizontal as what you get out of your kick will not exceed the drag caused by your inefficient positioning.

[Leo37045]

Amazing video, thanks!!! Leo

[TracyMacToDaRack]

I think that he's got the most beautiful and effortless stroke in freestyle I've ever seen on any human being ever. Just looks like he's not even trying.

[thehillster1]

any drills people might suggest to improve technique so it is more like ians?

[sinka15]

@thehillster1 swim swim and swim :D seriously the more time you spend in the pool , the better you'll become in technique. just try stuff out and you'll eventually get the feeling of it

[mckricks1]

how do you get your body more horizontal for a more efficient kick?

[Andythefunkman]

that´s an excellent video

thank you

[travisdt]

the actual Ian is so different from computer-generated, especially the arm stroke which is high and almost at the surface

[ldreid3]

This is a great summery of how to have good swimming technque. I have been swimming for 6+ years and this is what I have done and it has worked pretty well for me. The reason that he has his legs so low is so he can keep his feet under water and get the maximum power from each kick. The only thing I would argue with is rather than looking ahead of you look straight below your head.

[BWpepperr]

yes,most people have told me to look down to be more streamlined. Problem with that is its you more streamlined and therefore more horizontal so his feet wouldn't be as deep as he wanted it to be.

I have a question though, Do all swimmers have that bulwark wall ahead of their head that they "breathe behind"?

[kris533d]

i would agree in some parts of that. but the head position depends on the kick and each person.

i mostly swim looking a bit forward kind of michael phelps. but i look straight down when i sprint

[TracyMacToDaRack]

@kris533d

yea i didn't get that point. More horizontal and more streamline is actually worse for Ian? WTF??? I thought you wanted to give as little crossectional area for the water to create drag? How do I decide if I should keep my head a little forward or looking straight down?

[kris533d]

sorry for my bad english^^

uhm when you look straight forward your kicks drop very low into the water and your kick will bee much more efficient but youll make much resistance or what the fuck its called.

[kris533d]

í keep my head in a streamlined position when im swimming. that means that my body is totally flat in the water which i preffer.

[SBSvisions]

... go and teach Thorpe ;)))) The funniest comment I've read

[ric0h]

I wonder whether you need talent to do this or if you can gain these abilities by good training.

That's pretty awesome swimming.

[livegod1]

It's a video I like it

[jeffvlarson]

For future videos about swimming: do NOT use the crappy computer generated swimmer body employed here. Instead use the actual video of the swimmer and lay any graphics or effects in a layer over the source footage. Take a look again at how INCREDIBLY inaccurate the CGI swimmer's motion is compared to Thorpe's actual stroke (specifically the difference in the kick). The CGI swimmer only confuses people about how to swim, especially when you have actual world-class swimming talent on camera.

[forceael]

@jeffvlarson If you check out the video "Ian Thorpe - Beneath the Suit part 7 ( full version )" at around 7:50 (or look closely) you will find that this is not a computer model, but in fact a greenscreen shot where Ian was suspended in the air on a support under his hip and lower stomach.

So any differences you see are due to Ians inability to retrace his movements out of the water.

[percdann]

@jeffvlarson Cheers for that....I was looking at it thinking....eh that aint how he does it....

[percdann]

@jeffvlarson Hahaha, your so right man, check out the left hand entry...looks like a fist in the cgi

[xhelali87]

PHELPS!!!!!! WORLD RECORD!!!!!!!

[UNo0b]

this stroke will work for you if you have HUGE feet like thorpe and have a shorter torso with longer legs, oh yeah and are tall.

[jin1994]

omg...this explains everything! I used to swim like Thorpe (with head looking up) but then changed because all my teammates had their head down. I actually swam slower with my head down in my longer races and my arms got tired more quickly. I'm guessing that by putting my head down, it gave a greater load to my arms (my arms are pretty weak) and weakened the force from my kick.

[leonthetiger]

yo, what's the music?

[superdave31]

thanks for upload :)

[pissOffNRL]

What strength to keep his head up that high in the water. Man that's hard.

[kristianelim]

i tried it, its hard.. its for long distance to middle distance swimming i guess.. it doesnt work in sprinting for me..

[pissOffNRL]

I love this guy but I've got to stop watching this. Trying to improve my technique makes me go slower !

[kristianelim]

i dont know, it worked wonders for my stroke.. ive been doing it.. try to slant your head at a lower angle at first..

[rokrakl]

the perfect tech!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Frag280]

simply divine!

[spblink182]

amazing