@NASSYification slavery. more specifically: black man lacking political awareness, not associated with civil rights-movements, The hard working man who doesn't try to change the system but who wants to serve it.
Uncle Tom was about as big an insult a black man could use against another black man in those days and Ali used it endlessly, so why does everyone always focus on the disrespect other fighters showed Ali?
Ali was a great boxer - that's all you need to defend. As a man he could be and was as big an asshole as any other boxer who ever promoted a fight.
@michaelyouth That wasn't my point. Ali used that particular insult, along with many other nasty ones against all sorts of different fighters.
I'm bored of the deification of Ali - bored of people raising him above his fellow fighters as a man rather than a boxer.
As a fighter he was great. He was untouchable before Vietnam robbed him of his prime. As a man he was quite the shit. He went as low as his opponent - usually much, much lower - when trading insults before and after a fight.
@Lewelltam ?? He was an amazing fighter. Untouchable in 67. The greatest? Don't know, maybe Marciano would have beaten him. But he was called the people's champion, because he was an amazing man.
Calling Joe Frazier an Uncle Tom, wasn't good. He went too far and realised that. The namecalling was for promotion of the fights. He was an amazing boxer, but I'd like him because he was a great man. And what other insults are you talking about? He only went too far with Joe Frazier
@michaelyouth So are you saying that anything's allowed just so long as it's in promotion of a fight? 'Cause that is the implication of what you've written there. The way he treated Frazier - 'Uncle Tom', 'Gorilla' - was an absolute disgrace. No other words for it. He called Floyd Patterson an Uncle Tom. He called Terell an Uncle Tom. There was barely an opponent he fought which he didn't treat with some degree of nastiness or disrespect...
@michaelyouth There have been plenty of great fighters in the history of boxing who didn't resort to such cheap and often hateful tactics.
Defend him as a fighter by all means, 'cause he was magnificent. Defend many of the choices that he made as a man, 'cause he certainly was a brave motherfucker in many of the things that he did. But that doesn't mean that you need to defend the utterly nasty, entirely unnecessary shit he resorted to as well outside the ring.
@Lewelltam Terell and Patterson kept deliberately calling him Clay. Clay was his slavename, he is no longer a slave. So when black men would call him Clay, they were Uncle Tom's. I love Ali as a fighter, but I admire him as a human being A LOT more. And the ''shit'' you are talking about was to Frazier,but as I said he apologised and is sorry for that. Other insults were not made. He was joking around, and promoting the fight. Things like: ''I' dont like Foreman. He talks too much'' Hillarious.
@michaelyouth Have a feeling that we could find ourselves going around this subject, in circles, for ages. So I'll leave it there and wish you all the best.
@Lewelltam True. Now that you realise you're wrong, since you could not name any other true insults, that were not just jokes, that Ali made.
So stop talking about things you know nothing about. The guy was just joking. He only went too far with Frazier, only Frazier, not ''every opponent''. And he apologised a dozen times for that.
Wish you the best to, just stop talking aobut things you know shit about.
@michaelyouth Okay, so I tried to end an YT argument that threatened to go on forever well and what do I get: a dickish response.
Just because you apologise after the event, it doesn't mean you didn't act like an absolute shit to begin with. The stuff Ali did to Frazier goes waaaaaaaay beyond simple insults. He acted like a complete and utter bastard to a man who had defended him and financially supported him at a time when Ali was getting all kinds of shit owing to stance on Vietnam...
@Lewelltam ''And I'm not going to go through every example where Ali humiliated and disrespected opponents before fights, 'cause they are too many to mention.''
Respond to this video... And just to go to back to Frazier for a second. Frazier helped the man when he was down-and-out owing to Vietnam: gave him money and defended his right to fight when few else would. Ali spat all that straight back in Joe's face the second the promotion for that first fight began. Is that all okay 'cause it's 'just business'? Are those the actions of a great man? The vast majority who took him on as their champion didn't know shit about that.
@Lewelltam I said: what other insults are you talking about?
With Frazier he went too far. But Ali apologised to him in 2001, publicly. And after the Thrilla in Manilla he admitted that he admires Frazier. There are many interviews of Ali, when talkshow hosts trying to provoke him, and Ali always says that he was trying to promote the fight and that he won't talk bad about him now. You could clearly see Ali was a big child and was just fooling aroundBut what other inults are you talking about?
BULL..HE TOLD YOU RIGHT THERE TO CALL HIM ALI, YOU SHOULD HAVE JUST CALLED HIM ALI. FUCK THAT. YOU GOT YOUR ASS SPANKED AND NOW YOU SOUND LIKE A PUNK.
Frazier wanted to get off his stool in the 15th in Manilla. His corner wouldn't let him. And it was extremely hot in Manilla too, which you can't underestimate. At the end of the thrilla, Ali was actually more exhausted.
@InnocenceExperience I think you make a good point. I'm not even positive Ali was going to get off his stool for the last round, because he was utterly and totally spent. I know Eddie Futch was trying to act in Frazier's best interest in stopping the bout, but I also understand Frazier feeling he still had a genuine chance at winning. Very tough call.
@pnutbutrncrackers not tough at all, Frazier COULDNT SEE, how do you continue the fight? They were both tired, but one of them couldnt see, Ali wouldve smashed him in that next round and could have caused permanent damage, Futch did him a favor.
@nappyweed111 Well, that's the way you see it. I don't think Frazier's situation was all that different after 14 than it was just before it. And it's highly questionable that "Ali would've smashed him in that next round". Ali could barely stand and was virtually wasted himself. I still say it was a hard call. Futch might've done the right thing, but at the same time he did take away his fighter's chance to finish the fight he had worked so very hard for, and any hope (however slim) of winning.
@pnutbutrncrackers Its actually not the way I see it , it was the way Futch and Joe saw it or in Joe's case "didnt see it" but joe frazier admitted his eye was getting worse and by that last round he couldnt see at all, he had SOME visibility according to himself, but at that point he could not see at all, his left eye he had problems with prior and ali shut the right eye. What kind of sick individual would send their fighter out there KNOWING he couldnt see?
@nappyweed111 I think you're fusing opinion with fact (blending them together). Yes, Joe's vision was extremely compromised, as it had been at the beginning of 14. It is emphatically NOT true that Frazier held your viewpoint on the stoppage at all! He vehemently protested Futch's decision, and never forgave him for it. I don't think it would've been "sick" to allow JF to go one last round. As I've said, MA was in just about as bad a condition, and fainted just after the bout was called.
@pnutbutrncrackers Theres a BIG difference between ali being tired and frazier not being able to see, it's not opniion Frazier himself admitted he was completely compromised in regards to vision at that point. Tired or not ali wouldve just been up on him for ONE more round. Anyway, it makes no difference, Ali won the fight, we could speculate day and night for alternate endings on both sides, but its in the books ali won, no point in revisionism at this point.
@nappyweed111 Certainly not interested in 'revisionism', and agree that though it was quite close Ali had the slight upper hand. I also think you're right that somehow MA would have been able to survive one more round -- though I admit I am not positive. To me he seemed beyond "tired" and was on the verge of collapse (which in fact he did). But again, if I had to speculate I'd think he could've endured the last round. I feel the same about Frazier. Two all-time greats.
Terrell was completely whipped by Ali in his prime. But Ernie was a very talented fighter during a time when there were great fighters two, three levels deep. But that just shows you how great Ali was.
Every single person in every sport knows Ali was the best at what he did he was most athletic person and better fighter than all the fighting sports and they all know it Ali is the G.O.A.T period!!!!!!!!
look tyson was good but ali is the greatest tyson could puch hard put so could foreman look what happened to him ali is quick strong and what a boxing brain ali win ko the chump would fall in 8
@sportsmad1000 no way. i hope you do not underestimate tyson's speed and accuracy. the only thing ali has on tyson is reach. Tyson gets the KO in 3 rounds or less. Tyson would have retired that jerk in one fight.
@800MileMonday u obviously no nothing about Ali, he would dance around the ring and abuse tyson with jabs and straight rights, tyson down in the 10th round. hes got no stamina either. Ali versed the best heavy weight fighters of all time, Tyson....none, tyson is overrated. he wouldnt be able to touch ali.
Larry Holmes's singing! What the fuck has that to do with boxing! Who said what to who and why! Fuck all to do with boxing! Any media person should have to go through ten rounds of hard sparring with a pro boxer in qualification prior to their asking questions of the best. This would curtail their propensity to ask such dumb assed questions as before end of round one most, if not all would just get the fuck out of there!
He is an uncle tom! I was in chicago 3 years ago at The SoulFood Vegetarian restaurant and he was there, too. A group a older ladies ask did we want to take a picture with him (Ernie Terrell). My reply was a firm-NO! I had the joy to meet Ali when I was 10 years old why would i tarnish myself by taking a picture with an UNCLE TOM !
He didn't take it to far at all. its called RESPECT! and he wanted to be called by his name and Ernie Terrell didn't want to address him by his name "Muhammad Ali" and all Ali did was do his job and that's to beat the fighter so they don't beat him!
Ali's the greatest cuz what he did outside the ring was just as spectacular,& naw nigga they didnt take it to far,you should'a jus called the god by his name,ol'sambo ass niggaro,& hes still talkin like he got his tap shoes laced up tight,& dont regret it...
This dude got the beating he deserved. Disrespectful sorry S.O.B. Ali didn't have to fight him Ali fought him just to help him out financially and Terrell didn't even say thank you for giving hi a chance to make some money. In the new documentary Facing Ali. Kenny Norton thanked Ali for giving him a title shot which helped Ken Norton feed his son. Respect Bro..
an honest hard working man who didn't quite understand the commercially motivated mind of ali, or the new direction that boxing was headed with regard to fight promotions. And he is super chilled. legend
Henry Armstrong , Or a Sugar Ray Robinson, may have had more fights, So what !
Show me ONE, Just even 1 round of fight footage where any of them, including Sugar Ray Leonard, or a Mayweather, where they even came close to moving like Ali vs Williams, or the 1st fight with Liston in the first round ? No one moved like a prime Ali, or could compare their opponents to Ali's. And who was the prettiest ? lol...
I want to see Cassius in my bed,waving his big lively chubby buttocks in the air, while I prepare to penetrate him and treat him like a whore that he is.
Cassius Clay got his ass handled to him by Holmes.Cassius deserved to be yelled at,humiliated,brutalized with no respect,in front of the eyes of his wife and his daughter.I would yell,scream,taunt him and make him bleed slowly,to the eyes of his loved ones.I would make him moan in pain.
@marciopasiotto U stupid bitch. Ali punished that buffon in the ring for calling him Cassius Clay! didnt u see how that fucker couldnt even keep up with Ali.
Nigger stop shitting through your mouth and appreciate. If Ali would appear in your presence right now, he'd fuck you up( as old as he is). I bet you'd be too scared to mention all the hating you just mentiond, because you know he'd wax your ass in a heatbeat! now crawl back into that hole you came out of and shut the fuck up!
Idiotic video...at the 8:50 mark I thought it was over. I got off the site just when Ernie hit the picture again. Then I had to come back to load from the beginning.
I am glad that Holmes put Ali in his place, giving him a brutal,sadistic beating that tought humility and put some sense in Ali's big,ugly head.If I were Holmes,I would pu Ali into a coma,right in front of his wife who was watching the whole fight.I would give him an humiliation.
That's awful. Not only that you would wish to bring pain to such a wonderful man, but that you would wish to bring pain to an innocent person such as his wife out of your own misguided anger. I think you're forgetting that you have never met either of these people, and you would not know really who they are. How terrible you are to wish such things upon total strangers. Oh, and by the way, go fuck yourself.
@imavaughanstar The best fighters in the world are Brazilian. I am brazilian. Anderson Silva would spank and yell at Ali and humiliate him, for the eyes of Ali`s family. Silva would make Ali moan in pain while the sharp punches kept landing on his ugly face.
@marciopasiotto Ali would humiliate all your entire clan folk put together with the entire folk of all Anderson Silva, plus the entire foldhood of your brazil. stick to your bbj or football, and don't talk shit about Muhammad Ali. there've been too many shit talkers about Muhammad Ali just like this terrel, and they all got their share of wisdom. watch out what you say, you moron with "un-ugly face"
@nazirdjon coming from a bigger ali fan than you will ever be, anderson silva would tear him down like an old building. ali is the best puncher of all times but as far as stopping takedowns, knees, kicks, submissions get the fuck outta here. you must be from down south i pity you.
@forbesfoofighters It is impossible to say who would win for sure, as its a fight. You should have said, in you're OPINION Silva would win. Silva is a dirty muthaphucka, but he would have to be able to hit Ali, he would have to be able to hit Ali hard, very hard, very many times. Boxing training is designed for punching, blocking, evading, dodging, movement etc... they would both have to be in their prime, too remember. Can't say who would win, but I bet Ali hit harder then Silva and moved bettr
@RelentlessPedigree there is no question ali hit harder and moved better. he also hit faster and was probly a thousand times tougher but he didnt have nearly as many tools, its 2 different sports. id imagine a large part of andersons strategy would be to take away his mobility with leg kicks but then that would mean having to trade with ali which could prove devistating. BUT the fight would inevidably end up going to the ground where ali would have a serious disadvantage in all positions
@forbesfoofighters You're right if you're expecting Ali to box, and Silva to fight as he normally does. Ali would have the same rules, so he could kick too. Silva would obviously be better at this, and he probably would try and take it to the floor, as they are both smart fighters. But who's to say that Ali's balance isn't as good as Silva's skill as taking it to the floor? I respect you're opinion, it makes sense, but we can't really say who'd win. Also, its ignorant, and incompetent toCompare
He would be able to hit Ali many many times. I know Ali is an amazing boxer but Silva lands anything he wants on much lighter and quicker fighters than Ali. Ali would be one of the few people who could land hits back at Silva, and could take much more of Silva's hits.
Ali would have more power, but I would question that he moves better. Silva taunts experienced strikers with his movement alone.
Can't say who would win, but it'd be a fucking good fight.
@TheAbominableShowman Why? Just because he was in the WWE doesn't mean he's not a phenomenal athlete. He's incredibly athletic for a guy his size, and he's amazingly strong. His college wrestling record was 106-5, and that's incredible.
I'm not disputing that Ali is a great, but I'm sick of seeing MMA discounted as a fighting sport when it's the most realistic and technical fighting sport in the world.
@MetalMatt93 College wrestling with or without steroids? and no mixed martial arts is brutal, it has produced some of the best fighters to ever breathe, its just the heavy weight ufc division was and is a joke! light heavy, middle weight is where all the skill is at!
@forbesfoofighters did i talk about mma? the school kid knows an average mma guy will take down thebest boxer or a martial artist. The guy was talking about the boxing (!) abilities so I replied.
@nazirdjon Wtf r u talking about brazil u fucking moron, why u need to involve all one nation in ur discussion on the fucking youtube? Pay some attention whatr r u talking about and grow up.
A true Ali fan would never do something like that, goes against everything he stood for.
@skaha77 Matt Hughes could not beat Silva. Lesnar, probably, but that's only because Silva fights at 205 and Lesnar fights at 265. No comparison there.
Mr. Terrell seems to be doing well for himself. Like it or not, Terrell will largely be remembered because of his short-lived rivalry with Ali. But,taking nothing away from Mr. Terrell, he himself was also a good, legitimate, tough champion.
Ernie Terrell got what he deserved a good ass whoopin I would be ashamed to be his son or grandson with footage of such an ass whoopin out on the web of him being such a sell out uncle tom ass nigga..
@Hamd727 The thing I do regret, is seeing black men arguing in that manner, in front of white people, who always seem to get a kick out of such displays. Terrell is full of crap. He didn't know Ali's name? He says this years later, even though the tape clearly shows the contrary?
Terrell is so cute here.He must have a big, lively chubby ass that asks to be penetrated by a rubber penis.I imagine him waving his buttocks in the air and me behind him with an erection.
No doubt, Ali was the best ever. My brother in law and I saw Ali fight Terrell in 1967 in the Astrodome. We were sitting real hi and two black guys made us a$5 bet Ali would win. They held our money. Round by round we mutually decided who won. When fight was over they handed us the $10 and we rushed to get to car for our long drive back to Dallas. My br in law, said turn the radio on and see who won. I could not believe Ali won. It was by the point system and not round by round.
watch the new ali doc from 2009 '' Facing Ali'' great great great movie! Either subscribe / send me a message and i will send you the link to the movie
It's interesting that Ali go SO pissed that Terrell was calling him by his "original" name, when Ali called many of his opponents much worse things...Frazier for instance. Called him an Uncle Tom, ignorant, and a gorilla, said he wasn't very smart, etc. But for someone to call Ali the name his parents gave him? How could they!
I said "any person." That doesn't mean a black person. ANY person. There are plenty of white supremacist types who act "uppity." They annoy the shit out of me just as much as the current crop of black panther punks.
@novirasputin2 you don't know what you're talking about. You never lived in that era, and you would have no idea about what people experienced back then. Ali was only ever brash and cocky towards wankers because of the way he was treated for being an African-American.
@imavaughanstar bla bla. Experiences people have as individuals do not give their arguments more weight. Ali was brash and cocky cause it sold and made money. PERIOD! Why you think Tiger Woods apologizes now? cause he is a house negro? His image provided a healthy income, just like Dennis Rodman's, and Mike Tyson's provided one on the opposite side of the spectrum.
I'm not talking about Tiger Woods, Mike tyson, or Dennis Rodman, I'm talking about Muhammad Ali. And as for experiences providing weight to an argument, do you not know that in court cases they call upon 'witnesses' in order to provide evidence? You are simply one of the few detractors who cannot accept that Muhmmad Ali was the greatest fighter ever, and a great man, and you can only resort to these cheap little arguments to try and slander his name. Shame on you.
@imavaughanstar-This isn't a court case son. Im talking about specific examples which lend weight to my argument. Do you know that court cases call upon witnesses to give exact information not what somebody experienced that may or may not have been similar (not everybody in the 60's experienced teh same thing and you know some blacks experienced in the 90's what others did in teh 20's and some have never experienced it at all).
You need to get up off your knees and stop sucking Ali's scrotum. Great fighter yes, but his experiences outside the ring don't have any relevance. Talk about racism and boxing look at Jack Johnson. Why don't you call him the greatest ever huh?
All you know is what you been spoon fed. Go away. Sugar Ray Robinson was the greatest anyway.
You need to get up off your knees and stop sucking Ali's scrotum. Great fighter yes, but his experiences outside the ring don't have any relevance. Talk about racism and boxing look at Jack Johnson. Why don't you call him the greatest ever huh?
All you know is what you been spoon fed. Go away. Sugar Ray Robinson was the greatest anyway.
You need to get up off your knees and stop sucking Ali's scrotum. Great fighter yes, but his experiences outside the ring don't have any relevance. Talk about racism and boxing look at Jack Johnson. Why don't you call him the greatest ever huh?
All you know is what you been spoon fed. Go away. Sugar Ray Robinson was the greatest anyway.
@imavaughanstar right, talk about a real victim of racism like Jack Johnson and im an ignorant white American. Fella, as i said get up off your Ali scrotum sucking position.
You need to gain some perspective about boxing outside M Ali. As good as he was, he wasn't the greatest just because of what happened during the civil rights movement.
1. Ali was the Greatest fighter ever, and that is purely judged on what he did in the ring.
2. Terrell insulted Ali's religious beliefs, as did Floyd Patterson, because they were playing the 'white man's black' in the ring, the Unlce Tom, exactly as Muhammad Ali put it. They saw what was happening to Ali because of his religious views and his politics, and they tried to make out that they were good, complacent blacks, ready to put the upstart Cassius Clay back in his place.
@imavaughanstar 1. Very debatable. Top 10 for sure, top 5, yea i would agree, best ever. Nope. Sorry. Sugar Ray Robinson, and Henry Armstrong def above him.
2. If it was really such an insult Ali would never feel sorry for the way he treateted them both. he did hence your argument is BS just like the nation was BS with its pedophile leaders. Reminds of the Catholics.
Your second point of argument makes no sense at all. Much like just about anything you've written up until this point not regarding Sugar Ray Robinson (he and Ali are perhaps inseperable in terms of who was the greatest boxer, that I concede and you should too).
@novirasputin2 Man, Henry Armstrong was garbage. Ali would completely annihilate him, with ease. Armstrong had no defense, basic footwork, average handspeed. Ali's skill level was FAR SUPERIOR to Armstrong's. Ali would box the shit out of Henry Armstrong. Shit, Mayweather would completely destroy Armstrong too. Ali > Armstrong.
@jsmasterlubu3. The sign of stupidity in this day and age is people who resort to calling someone a racist when their stupid argument is shot down and their incompetent and moronic al-sharpton type retardation comes out in the open.
Go send money to the nation of islam so they can continue their pedophilia.
@imavaughanstar The Greatest Yes, But out of line about the name. Changing his name in mid-stream of his life confused people,Not everyone understood. I never knew anyone named 'Muhammed' at that time of my life. Just because other Blacks didn't buy into his idealogy/beliefs,didn't make them 'Uncle Toms',But he (Ali) was quick to label anyone who didn't ,just that.
Why should changing his name confuse people? Because it's an Arabic name? Geez get over it. I'm Aussie and two of my mates are called David and Justin, one guy's named Ting-Chen. Who cares? I'm not saying everybody had become a Muslim, I'm saying that he ought to have been respected for what religion he followed. They turned against him on that because they didn't want to be gruoped together with an upstart to racism. That's cowardly.
Terrell said you just dont do that. U just don't call him Clay
jdt927851 1 week ago
He's says his name now. lol
jdt927851 1 week ago
My left ear really enjoyed this.
SickPendulum 1 month ago
what is an "Uncle tom"..what does it symbolize?
NASSYification 1 month ago
@NASSYification slavery. more specifically: black man lacking political awareness, not associated with civil rights-movements, The hard working man who doesn't try to change the system but who wants to serve it.
FijneWIET 1 month ago
you makin' it REALLY hard on yourself now!
5point0 1 month ago
Ali SMASHED IT .. LEGEND
Haarisali100 1 month ago
@Haarisali100
George Chuvalo kicked Terrells ass with the help of crooked managers and refs
Crnegrede 1 month ago
Ernie Terrell=Uncle Tom
username7212345 2 months ago 3
@username7212345 U do realise that insult is over 40 years old so don't post stuff like that bcause I find it disrespectfull.
TheTabshirEmperor 1 month ago
@TheTabshirEmperor respect needs to be earned, not granted
FijneWIET 1 month ago
Uncle Tom was about as big an insult a black man could use against another black man in those days and Ali used it endlessly, so why does everyone always focus on the disrespect other fighters showed Ali?
Ali was a great boxer - that's all you need to defend. As a man he could be and was as big an asshole as any other boxer who ever promoted a fight.
Lewelltam 3 months ago
@Lewelltam He was acting like an old Uncle Tom by calling him by his slavename.
michaelyouth 3 months ago
@michaelyouth That wasn't my point. Ali used that particular insult, along with many other nasty ones against all sorts of different fighters.
I'm bored of the deification of Ali - bored of people raising him above his fellow fighters as a man rather than a boxer.
As a fighter he was great. He was untouchable before Vietnam robbed him of his prime. As a man he was quite the shit. He went as low as his opponent - usually much, much lower - when trading insults before and after a fight.
Lewelltam 3 months ago
@Lewelltam ?? He was an amazing fighter. Untouchable in 67. The greatest? Don't know, maybe Marciano would have beaten him. But he was called the people's champion, because he was an amazing man.
Calling Joe Frazier an Uncle Tom, wasn't good. He went too far and realised that. The namecalling was for promotion of the fights. He was an amazing boxer, but I'd like him because he was a great man. And what other insults are you talking about? He only went too far with Joe Frazier
michaelyouth 3 months ago
@michaelyouth So are you saying that anything's allowed just so long as it's in promotion of a fight? 'Cause that is the implication of what you've written there. The way he treated Frazier - 'Uncle Tom', 'Gorilla' - was an absolute disgrace. No other words for it. He called Floyd Patterson an Uncle Tom. He called Terell an Uncle Tom. There was barely an opponent he fought which he didn't treat with some degree of nastiness or disrespect...
Lewelltam 3 months ago
@michaelyouth There have been plenty of great fighters in the history of boxing who didn't resort to such cheap and often hateful tactics.
Defend him as a fighter by all means, 'cause he was magnificent. Defend many of the choices that he made as a man, 'cause he certainly was a brave motherfucker in many of the things that he did. But that doesn't mean that you need to defend the utterly nasty, entirely unnecessary shit he resorted to as well outside the ring.
Lewelltam 3 months ago
@Lewelltam Terell and Patterson kept deliberately calling him Clay. Clay was his slavename, he is no longer a slave. So when black men would call him Clay, they were Uncle Tom's. I love Ali as a fighter, but I admire him as a human being A LOT more. And the ''shit'' you are talking about was to Frazier,but as I said he apologised and is sorry for that. Other insults were not made. He was joking around, and promoting the fight. Things like: ''I' dont like Foreman. He talks too much'' Hillarious.
michaelyouth 3 months ago
@michaelyouth Have a feeling that we could find ourselves going around this subject, in circles, for ages. So I'll leave it there and wish you all the best.
Lewelltam 3 months ago
@Lewelltam True. Now that you realise you're wrong, since you could not name any other true insults, that were not just jokes, that Ali made.
So stop talking about things you know nothing about. The guy was just joking. He only went too far with Frazier, only Frazier, not ''every opponent''. And he apologised a dozen times for that.
Wish you the best to, just stop talking aobut things you know shit about.
michaelyouth 3 months ago
@michaelyouth Okay, so I tried to end an YT argument that threatened to go on forever well and what do I get: a dickish response.
Just because you apologise after the event, it doesn't mean you didn't act like an absolute shit to begin with. The stuff Ali did to Frazier goes waaaaaaaay beyond simple insults. He acted like a complete and utter bastard to a man who had defended him and financially supported him at a time when Ali was getting all kinds of shit owing to stance on Vietnam...
Lewelltam 3 months ago
That's why Frazier - a decent guy - still holds a massive grudge against Ali.
And I'm not going to go through every example where Ali humiliated and disrespected opponents before fights, 'cause they are too many to mention.
Take your fucking rose-tinted glasses off and see the man for what he is: a truly great fighter, but a flawed man. Like most of us.
Shan't be responding to you again, purely 'cause I don't keep up correspondence with people who talk down to me like condescending pricks.
Lewelltam 3 months ago
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@Lewelltam ''And I'm not going to go through every example where Ali humiliated and disrespected opponents before fights, 'cause they are too many to mention.''
You can not even name one...
michaelyouth 3 months ago
Respond to this video... And just to go to back to Frazier for a second. Frazier helped the man when he was down-and-out owing to Vietnam: gave him money and defended his right to fight when few else would. Ali spat all that straight back in Joe's face the second the promotion for that first fight began. Is that all okay 'cause it's 'just business'? Are those the actions of a great man? The vast majority who took him on as their champion didn't know shit about that.
Lewelltam 3 months ago
@Lewelltam I said: what other insults are you talking about?
With Frazier he went too far. But Ali apologised to him in 2001, publicly. And after the Thrilla in Manilla he admitted that he admires Frazier. There are many interviews of Ali, when talkshow hosts trying to provoke him, and Ali always says that he was trying to promote the fight and that he won't talk bad about him now. You could clearly see Ali was a big child and was just fooling aroundBut what other inults are you talking about?
michaelyouth 3 months ago
what the fuck this ugly old retard looking dude is talking about
cozmic24 3 months ago
Ali was a bit of a punk back in the day.. he basically labelled anyone he didn't like a uncle tom.
toby099 3 months ago
he knows it´s ali now doesn´t he?
...what´s my name uncle tom?
quame5 5 months ago
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quame5 5 months ago
Ali is kind of funny, though
skaha77 5 months ago
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ANormalGuy 5 months ago
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Look now Ali can't even wipe his own ass no more.
TheSiva30 6 months ago
YOU GOT KNOCKED THE FUKK OUT!
heskeyyyy 8 months ago
BULL..HE TOLD YOU RIGHT THERE TO CALL HIM ALI, YOU SHOULD HAVE JUST CALLED HIM ALI. FUCK THAT. YOU GOT YOUR ASS SPANKED AND NOW YOU SOUND LIKE A PUNK.
glower125 9 months ago 4
You have to be kidding.....Ernie knew what he was saying!
rbabla05 11 months ago
In the description...'what Ali did by accident'???
rbabla05 11 months ago
they should only have one belt in each weight division
westcoast4081 11 months ago
Frazier wanted to get off his stool in the 15th in Manilla. His corner wouldn't let him. And it was extremely hot in Manilla too, which you can't underestimate. At the end of the thrilla, Ali was actually more exhausted.
InnocenceExperience 1 year ago
@InnocenceExperience I think you make a good point. I'm not even positive Ali was going to get off his stool for the last round, because he was utterly and totally spent. I know Eddie Futch was trying to act in Frazier's best interest in stopping the bout, but I also understand Frazier feeling he still had a genuine chance at winning. Very tough call.
pnutbutrncrackers 1 year ago
@pnutbutrncrackers not tough at all, Frazier COULDNT SEE, how do you continue the fight? They were both tired, but one of them couldnt see, Ali wouldve smashed him in that next round and could have caused permanent damage, Futch did him a favor.
nappyweed111 11 months ago
@nappyweed111 Well, that's the way you see it. I don't think Frazier's situation was all that different after 14 than it was just before it. And it's highly questionable that "Ali would've smashed him in that next round". Ali could barely stand and was virtually wasted himself. I still say it was a hard call. Futch might've done the right thing, but at the same time he did take away his fighter's chance to finish the fight he had worked so very hard for, and any hope (however slim) of winning.
pnutbutrncrackers 11 months ago
@pnutbutrncrackers Its actually not the way I see it , it was the way Futch and Joe saw it or in Joe's case "didnt see it" but joe frazier admitted his eye was getting worse and by that last round he couldnt see at all, he had SOME visibility according to himself, but at that point he could not see at all, his left eye he had problems with prior and ali shut the right eye. What kind of sick individual would send their fighter out there KNOWING he couldnt see?
nappyweed111 11 months ago
@nappyweed111 I think you're fusing opinion with fact (blending them together). Yes, Joe's vision was extremely compromised, as it had been at the beginning of 14. It is emphatically NOT true that Frazier held your viewpoint on the stoppage at all! He vehemently protested Futch's decision, and never forgave him for it. I don't think it would've been "sick" to allow JF to go one last round. As I've said, MA was in just about as bad a condition, and fainted just after the bout was called.
pnutbutrncrackers 11 months ago
@pnutbutrncrackers Theres a BIG difference between ali being tired and frazier not being able to see, it's not opniion Frazier himself admitted he was completely compromised in regards to vision at that point. Tired or not ali wouldve just been up on him for ONE more round. Anyway, it makes no difference, Ali won the fight, we could speculate day and night for alternate endings on both sides, but its in the books ali won, no point in revisionism at this point.
nappyweed111 11 months ago
@nappyweed111 Certainly not interested in 'revisionism', and agree that though it was quite close Ali had the slight upper hand. I also think you're right that somehow MA would have been able to survive one more round -- though I admit I am not positive. To me he seemed beyond "tired" and was on the verge of collapse (which in fact he did). But again, if I had to speculate I'd think he could've endured the last round. I feel the same about Frazier. Two all-time greats.
pnutbutrncrackers 11 months ago
Ali beat his ass until he started calling him "Muhammad Ali" in the ring like when Kunte Kinte said "Toby" in Roots.
comedicstuff 1 year ago
Ali fans on the internet watched that movie with Will Smith and pretend they knew all about Ali.
Ali should have shut up and fought this fight and he really might have punished Terrell.
Ali was smart and sold tickets by running his mouth non stop.
bptaylor11 1 year ago
now, when he said "back off me" you can feel the rage of Ali, can't you?
what a fool uncle tom he was
nazirdjon 1 year ago
Thumbs down for the shitty little mono mic used in this video.
BenNCM 1 year ago
Ernie said you just dont do that aaaaaaaaaaa man
hotblk100 1 year ago
ALI ASS TOLD HIM STRAIGHT UP
hotblk100 1 year ago 15
Terrell was completely whipped by Ali in his prime. But Ernie was a very talented fighter during a time when there were great fighters two, three levels deep. But that just shows you how great Ali was.
zenmachinefilms 1 year ago
Every single person in every sport knows Ali was the best at what he did he was most athletic person and better fighter than all the fighting sports and they all know it Ali is the G.O.A.T period!!!!!!!!
TheLilPimp112 1 year ago
look tyson was good but ali is the greatest tyson could puch hard put so could foreman look what happened to him ali is quick strong and what a boxing brain ali win ko the chump would fall in 8
sportsmad1000 1 year ago
@sportsmad1000 no way. i hope you do not underestimate tyson's speed and accuracy. the only thing ali has on tyson is reach. Tyson gets the KO in 3 rounds or less. Tyson would have retired that jerk in one fight.
800MileMonday 1 year ago
@800MileMonday u obviously no nothing about Ali, he would dance around the ring and abuse tyson with jabs and straight rights, tyson down in the 10th round. hes got no stamina either. Ali versed the best heavy weight fighters of all time, Tyson....none, tyson is overrated. he wouldnt be able to touch ali.
XSVterror18 1 year ago
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Flipper79able 1 year ago
fuck u liar...you got your ass beat hahaha
whats his name?!?!
fuck you Terrell
CUNT
WhiteyRose 1 year ago
@WhiteyRose Ali and Terrell were friends, you know...
ph1484 1 year ago
Larry Holmes's singing! What the fuck has that to do with boxing! Who said what to who and why! Fuck all to do with boxing! Any media person should have to go through ten rounds of hard sparring with a pro boxer in qualification prior to their asking questions of the best. This would curtail their propensity to ask such dumb assed questions as before end of round one most, if not all would just get the fuck out of there!
mikris50 1 year ago
howard cosell was butt ugly even when he was young
Arif21 1 year ago
What`s my name chump
hallowicked2007 1 year ago
He is an uncle tom! I was in chicago 3 years ago at The SoulFood Vegetarian restaurant and he was there, too. A group a older ladies ask did we want to take a picture with him (Ernie Terrell). My reply was a firm-NO! I had the joy to meet Ali when I was 10 years old why would i tarnish myself by taking a picture with an UNCLE TOM !
mnblkfirefightr 1 year ago
i love ali 4 me he was the greatest boxer w/o a doubt!but not everything he do is right!a lot of times he cross the line...
redfishmann 1 year ago
Ernie is currently the oldest living HW champ.
He looks like he's still in good health and seems like a nice guy. More power to him.
Bloufo 1 year ago
RESPECT TO ALI , Even though Ali says him self he regrets punishing him like he did , he shouldn't of called him by his old name
badassm0nkey 1 year ago
He didn't take it to far at all. its called RESPECT! and he wanted to be called by his name and Ernie Terrell didn't want to address him by his name "Muhammad Ali" and all Ali did was do his job and that's to beat the fighter so they don't beat him!
boogang 1 year ago
Ali's the greatest cuz what he did outside the ring was just as spectacular,& naw nigga they didnt take it to far,you should'a jus called the god by his name,ol'sambo ass niggaro,& hes still talkin like he got his tap shoes laced up tight,& dont regret it...
Mobbin4theArt 1 year ago
Terrell Got smacked up by the G.O.A.T. Ali beat him like he stole something
Rasclot222 1 year ago
"at the sound of the bell, terrell, will catch hell"
rankingtrevor 1 year ago
This dude got the beating he deserved. Disrespectful sorry S.O.B. Ali didn't have to fight him Ali fought him just to help him out financially and Terrell didn't even say thank you for giving hi a chance to make some money. In the new documentary Facing Ali. Kenny Norton thanked Ali for giving him a title shot which helped Ken Norton feed his son. Respect Bro..
Hamd727 1 year ago
Muhammad Ali was, still is and wil forever be the greatest.
The Nation of Islam is BS indeed, and Ali was surrounded by just the wrong people: Herbert Muhammad, Don King and other parasites.
Ali has left the Nation and converted to traditional Islam.
He also admits he went too fat with the racial intimidations (Frazier, Foreman, actually all his opponents).
It's understandable enough given the social context of the time and place he grew up in.
FijneWIET 1 year ago
Good man and good champ! Boxing is proud of you sir..God bless you and your family.
ANDALmanero 1 year ago
Hey Imagrandpa! So when you were 9 years old in 1967 you saw the Ali-Terrell fight ? With your brother in law? And you were surprised Ali won?
flash3182 1 year ago
an honest hard working man who didn't quite understand the commercially motivated mind of ali, or the new direction that boxing was headed with regard to fight promotions. And he is super chilled. legend
CHEESYhairyGASH 1 year ago
Terrell is still cute,even noW:just imagine him over your bed waving his chubby buttocks in the air, while yelling "Fuck me up the ass".
marciopasiotto 1 year ago
Henry Armstrong , Or a Sugar Ray Robinson, may have had more fights, So what !
Show me ONE, Just even 1 round of fight footage where any of them, including Sugar Ray Leonard, or a Mayweather, where they even came close to moving like Ali vs Williams, or the 1st fight with Liston in the first round ? No one moved like a prime Ali, or could compare their opponents to Ali's. And who was the prettiest ? lol...
truthhitmanisback 1 year ago
I want to see Cassius in my bed,waving his big lively chubby buttocks in the air, while I prepare to penetrate him and treat him like a whore that he is.
marciopasiotto 1 year ago
Cassius Clay got his ass handled to him by Holmes.Cassius deserved to be yelled at,humiliated,brutalized with no respect,in front of the eyes of his wife and his daughter.I would yell,scream,taunt him and make him bleed slowly,to the eyes of his loved ones.I would make him moan in pain.
marciopasiotto 1 year ago
@marciopasiotto U stupid bitch. Ali punished that buffon in the ring for calling him Cassius Clay! didnt u see how that fucker couldnt even keep up with Ali.
Nigger stop shitting through your mouth and appreciate. If Ali would appear in your presence right now, he'd fuck you up( as old as he is). I bet you'd be too scared to mention all the hating you just mentiond, because you know he'd wax your ass in a heatbeat! now crawl back into that hole you came out of and shut the fuck up!
MultiGoldenone 1 year ago
@MultiGoldenone you rascist piece of shit you would get fucked up too
HEATKING826 1 year ago
Uh Joe Frazier was blind in the 14th and they were fighting in a more humid place, also Joe Frazier wanted to go back out so... ?
capablemachine 1 year ago
Idiotic video...at the 8:50 mark I thought it was over. I got off the site just when Ernie hit the picture again. Then I had to come back to load from the beginning.
Goofball style video.
Khalifornia 1 year ago
I am glad that Holmes put Ali in his place, giving him a brutal,sadistic beating that tought humility and put some sense in Ali's big,ugly head.If I were Holmes,I would pu Ali into a coma,right in front of his wife who was watching the whole fight.I would give him an humiliation.
marciopasiotto 1 year ago
@marciopasiotto i know u, u were the hypocrite who said i like ali and stuff of that sort and insulting him in the youtube video 'Ali part 10'.
silverdiablo7 1 year ago
@marciopasiotto you're sick. Seriously sick.
That's awful. Not only that you would wish to bring pain to such a wonderful man, but that you would wish to bring pain to an innocent person such as his wife out of your own misguided anger. I think you're forgetting that you have never met either of these people, and you would not know really who they are. How terrible you are to wish such things upon total strangers. Oh, and by the way, go fuck yourself.
imavaughanstar 1 year ago
@imavaughanstar The best fighters in the world are Brazilian. I am brazilian. Anderson Silva would spank and yell at Ali and humiliate him, for the eyes of Ali`s family. Silva would make Ali moan in pain while the sharp punches kept landing on his ugly face.
marciopasiotto 1 year ago
@marciopasiotto Ali would humiliate all your entire clan folk put together with the entire folk of all Anderson Silva, plus the entire foldhood of your brazil. stick to your bbj or football, and don't talk shit about Muhammad Ali. there've been too many shit talkers about Muhammad Ali just like this terrel, and they all got their share of wisdom. watch out what you say, you moron with "un-ugly face"
nazirdjon 1 year ago 21
@nazirdjon Cassius clay was Irish
Grantpottsville 11 months ago
@nazirdjon Ali was a jerk. I only WISH Suger Ray robinson had been 6-3, and 190 instead of 5-11, 160. He'd have knocked Clay out cold.
skaha77 5 months ago
@skaha77 you must be darkskinned!
Capdirtbag 4 months ago
@Capdirtbag Yeah, right. I am white in winter, tanned in summer. What are YOU? Besides someone who bumps threads with silly assumptions?
skaha77 4 months ago
Respond to this video... you must be dark skinned
Capdirtbag 4 months ago
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skaha77 4 months ago
@nazirdjon coming from a bigger ali fan than you will ever be, anderson silva would tear him down like an old building. ali is the best puncher of all times but as far as stopping takedowns, knees, kicks, submissions get the fuck outta here. you must be from down south i pity you.
forbesfoofighters 5 months ago
@forbesfoofighters It is impossible to say who would win for sure, as its a fight. You should have said, in you're OPINION Silva would win. Silva is a dirty muthaphucka, but he would have to be able to hit Ali, he would have to be able to hit Ali hard, very hard, very many times. Boxing training is designed for punching, blocking, evading, dodging, movement etc... they would both have to be in their prime, too remember. Can't say who would win, but I bet Ali hit harder then Silva and moved bettr
RelentlessPedigree 4 months ago
@RelentlessPedigree there is no question ali hit harder and moved better. he also hit faster and was probly a thousand times tougher but he didnt have nearly as many tools, its 2 different sports. id imagine a large part of andersons strategy would be to take away his mobility with leg kicks but then that would mean having to trade with ali which could prove devistating. BUT the fight would inevidably end up going to the ground where ali would have a serious disadvantage in all positions
forbesfoofighters 4 months ago
@forbesfoofighters You're right if you're expecting Ali to box, and Silva to fight as he normally does. Ali would have the same rules, so he could kick too. Silva would obviously be better at this, and he probably would try and take it to the floor, as they are both smart fighters. But who's to say that Ali's balance isn't as good as Silva's skill as taking it to the floor? I respect you're opinion, it makes sense, but we can't really say who'd win. Also, its ignorant, and incompetent toCompare
RelentlessPedigree 4 months ago
@RelentlessPedigree How is Silva dirty?
He would be able to hit Ali many many times. I know Ali is an amazing boxer but Silva lands anything he wants on much lighter and quicker fighters than Ali. Ali would be one of the few people who could land hits back at Silva, and could take much more of Silva's hits.
Ali would have more power, but I would question that he moves better. Silva taunts experienced strikers with his movement alone.
Can't say who would win, but it'd be a fucking good fight.
MetalMatt93 3 months ago
@MetalMatt93 any sport than brock lesnar could go into and dominate is a joke... Muhammad Ali would be any UFC fighter
TheAbominableShowman 3 months ago
@TheAbominableShowman Why? Just because he was in the WWE doesn't mean he's not a phenomenal athlete. He's incredibly athletic for a guy his size, and he's amazingly strong. His college wrestling record was 106-5, and that's incredible.
I'm not disputing that Ali is a great, but I'm sick of seeing MMA discounted as a fighting sport when it's the most realistic and technical fighting sport in the world.
MetalMatt93 3 months ago
@MetalMatt93 College wrestling with or without steroids? and no mixed martial arts is brutal, it has produced some of the best fighters to ever breathe, its just the heavy weight ufc division was and is a joke! light heavy, middle weight is where all the skill is at!
TheAbominableShowman 3 months ago
@forbesfoofighters did i talk about mma? the school kid knows an average mma guy will take down thebest boxer or a martial artist. The guy was talking about the boxing (!) abilities so I replied.
nazirdjon 4 months ago
@nazirdjon Wtf r u talking about brazil u fucking moron, why u need to involve all one nation in ur discussion on the fucking youtube? Pay some attention whatr r u talking about and grow up.
A true Ali fan would never do something like that, goes against everything he stood for.
1Husseini 4 months ago
@marciopasiotto So what?? Who cares? Silva can be beaten. Matt Hughes can beat da silver.. Brock Lesner can beat any of them
skaha77 4 months ago
@skaha77 Matt Hughes could not beat Silva. Lesnar, probably, but that's only because Silva fights at 205 and Lesnar fights at 265. No comparison there.
MetalMatt93 3 months ago
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@MetalMatt93 Makes no difference to me
skaha77 3 months ago
@imavaughanstar Ali is an asshole. Just another hating muslim. Get over it.. OBTW this might sound a bit unbelievable, but I have met Ali. Twice
skaha77 3 months ago
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Ernie Terrell wasn't great he fough a few great guys but that doesn't make him great he was a bitch
Hamd727 1 year ago
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Ernie Terrell wasn't great he fough a few great guys but that doesn't make him great he was a bitch
Hamd727 1 year ago
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Ernie Terrell wasn't great he fough a few great guys but that doesn't make him great he was a bitch
Hamd727 1 year ago
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Ernie Terrell wasn't great he fough a few great guys but that doesn't make him great he was a bitch
Hamd727 1 year ago
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Ernie Terrell wasn't great he fough a few great guys but that doesn't make him great he was a bitch
Hamd727 1 year ago
Ernie Terrell wasn't great he fough a few great guys but that doesn't make him great he was a bitch
Hamd727 1 year ago
What a bitch ass ignorant white man lover. I'm glad Ali whooped his asss Good..
Hamd727 1 year ago
@Hamd727 see novirawhateverthefuckyournameis, this guy gets it.
imavaughanstar 1 year ago
Its a show! But I think Ali publish Ernie too bad! Ernie looks like a honest person to my opinion.
jimmychuang 1 year ago
Mr. Terrell seems to be doing well for himself. Like it or not, Terrell will largely be remembered because of his short-lived rivalry with Ali. But,taking nothing away from Mr. Terrell, he himself was also a good, legitimate, tough champion.
soulinthewall77 1 year ago
Afterwards Terrell claimed Ali thumbed him repeatedly and rubbed his eye along the top rope, leaving him with a ropeburn on his eye.
FlaviusConstantius 1 year ago
i wouldve kept calling him cashus!LOL
uiwqe 1 year ago
I dont think Ali was trying to knock him out.. i think he just wanted to just punish him and humiliate him for 15 rounds..
jayremmi 1 year ago
......mello,older gentleman,glad his brains arent scrambled.
dempsey981 1 year ago
Ernie was trying to disrespect Ali, and that was that. Ali confronted him, and Ernie continued to disrespect.
And he paid a price for it. End of story.
TheMaximumLife 1 year ago
Ali obviously could dish it out, he just couldn't take it.
mightyafrowhitey 1 year ago
@mightyafrowhitey
Oh dear...
Aurelio226 1 year ago
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stevieray351 1 year ago
@mightyafrowhitey
couldn't take what? Are you referring to insults or fighting? because Ali had a freakish ability to take all kinds of shots and stay in the game.
TommyGun7111 1 year ago
LMMFAO....He's Calling him Ali now
HustleCaine85 1 year ago
@HustleCaine85 Terrell will fuck that dribbling mess up now, so he can call him what he wants.
possession2 1 year ago
WHATS MY NAME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
HustleCaine85 1 year ago
Ali was just asking him to give him his respect. Hey the man changed his name and Terrell should have used it.
excelsior331 1 year ago
Ernie looks like Evander holyfield
ninjanbounti 1 year ago
Ernie Terrell got what he deserved a good ass whoopin I would be ashamed to be his son or grandson with footage of such an ass whoopin out on the web of him being such a sell out uncle tom ass nigga..
Hamd727 2 years ago
@Hamd727 The thing I do regret, is seeing black men arguing in that manner, in front of white people, who always seem to get a kick out of such displays. Terrell is full of crap. He didn't know Ali's name? He says this years later, even though the tape clearly shows the contrary?
Soulblackman 2 years ago
@Soulblackman u uncle tom
lee1990lee 1 year ago
Lee1990lee, u a bigger fool than you write.
Soulblackman 1 year ago
Terrell is so cute here.He must have a big, lively chubby ass that asks to be penetrated by a rubber penis.I imagine him waving his buttocks in the air and me behind him with an erection.
marciopasiotto 2 years ago
Jaja "you got 4 world champions when you got 1 world" good point.
josemezatorrez 2 years ago
hey novirasputin2, the reason ali didnt ko terrell is because he didnt want too. he punishied him just like patterson.
TheRameyL 2 years ago
No doubt, Ali was the best ever. My brother in law and I saw Ali fight Terrell in 1967 in the Astrodome. We were sitting real hi and two black guys made us a$5 bet Ali would win. They held our money. Round by round we mutually decided who won. When fight was over they handed us the $10 and we rushed to get to car for our long drive back to Dallas. My br in law, said turn the radio on and see who won. I could not believe Ali won. It was by the point system and not round by round.
imagrandpa 2 years ago
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Abbodine1 2 years ago
watch the new ali doc from 2009 '' Facing Ali'' great great great movie! Either subscribe / send me a message and i will send you the link to the movie
G3ner0 2 years ago
the problem was Terrell wasn't a bad fighter,but just boring.j
wheatbull 2 years ago
Ernie Terrell seems real humble. This interview has made me see this whole episode in a very different light.
passingpoor 2 years ago
I'm glad. Thx for being honest and its really why i am proud of this interview because it gave Ernie a nice platform.
I've heard more than a few folks say this.
thx again dude :)
novirasputin2 2 years ago
Ernie was a great fighter. Ali, Lyle, Norton and Holmes said he was a harder puncher than Big George. He's power is unheared of.
theecoteam 2 years ago
Where did you read that?
polytide50 2 years ago
It's interesting that Ali go SO pissed that Terrell was calling him by his "original" name, when Ali called many of his opponents much worse things...Frazier for instance. Called him an Uncle Tom, ignorant, and a gorilla, said he wasn't very smart, etc. But for someone to call Ali the name his parents gave him? How could they!
greenfruitface 2 years ago 2
TERRELL WAS A HUMBLE GUY!!!!
stevengargoyle 2 years ago
...yeha, just the way you want black men to be--humble, outspoken and docile. A "good boy"
lwmson 2 years ago
and whats wrong with that?
i personally don't much like any person who acts "uppity" for no reason whatsoever, but if it happens to be a black guy it means i'm racist?
Its bs, i react much more positively to people with a demeanor similar to Terrell's and color, or race is not the issue at all.
novirasputin2 2 years ago
Of course it makes you a racist if you have a problem with an "uppity nigger."
lwmson 2 years ago
I said "any person." That doesn't mean a black person. ANY person. There are plenty of white supremacist types who act "uppity." They annoy the shit out of me just as much as the current crop of black panther punks.
All the same trash to me.
novirasputin2 2 years ago
@novirasputin2 you don't know what you're talking about. You never lived in that era, and you would have no idea about what people experienced back then. Ali was only ever brash and cocky towards wankers because of the way he was treated for being an African-American.
imavaughanstar 1 year ago
@imavaughanstar bla bla. Experiences people have as individuals do not give their arguments more weight. Ali was brash and cocky cause it sold and made money. PERIOD! Why you think Tiger Woods apologizes now? cause he is a house negro? His image provided a healthy income, just like Dennis Rodman's, and Mike Tyson's provided one on the opposite side of the spectrum.
novirasputin2 1 year ago
I'm not talking about Tiger Woods, Mike tyson, or Dennis Rodman, I'm talking about Muhammad Ali. And as for experiences providing weight to an argument, do you not know that in court cases they call upon 'witnesses' in order to provide evidence? You are simply one of the few detractors who cannot accept that Muhmmad Ali was the greatest fighter ever, and a great man, and you can only resort to these cheap little arguments to try and slander his name. Shame on you.
imavaughanstar 1 year ago
@imavaughanstar-This isn't a court case son. Im talking about specific examples which lend weight to my argument. Do you know that court cases call upon witnesses to give exact information not what somebody experienced that may or may not have been similar (not everybody in the 60's experienced teh same thing and you know some blacks experienced in the 90's what others did in teh 20's and some have never experienced it at all).
novirasputin2 1 year ago
@imavaughanstar
You need to get up off your knees and stop sucking Ali's scrotum. Great fighter yes, but his experiences outside the ring don't have any relevance. Talk about racism and boxing look at Jack Johnson. Why don't you call him the greatest ever huh?
All you know is what you been spoon fed. Go away. Sugar Ray Robinson was the greatest anyway.
novirasputin2 1 year ago
@imavaughanstar
You need to get up off your knees and stop sucking Ali's scrotum. Great fighter yes, but his experiences outside the ring don't have any relevance. Talk about racism and boxing look at Jack Johnson. Why don't you call him the greatest ever huh?
All you know is what you been spoon fed. Go away. Sugar Ray Robinson was the greatest anyway.
novirasputin2 1 year ago
@imavaughanstar
You need to get up off your knees and stop sucking Ali's scrotum. Great fighter yes, but his experiences outside the ring don't have any relevance. Talk about racism and boxing look at Jack Johnson. Why don't you call him the greatest ever huh?
All you know is what you been spoon fed. Go away. Sugar Ray Robinson was the greatest anyway.
novirasputin2 1 year ago
@novirasputin2 your foul statements are only further evidence of your ignorance. Typical white America.
imavaughanstar 1 year ago
@imavaughanstar right, talk about a real victim of racism like Jack Johnson and im an ignorant white American. Fella, as i said get up off your Ali scrotum sucking position.
You need to gain some perspective about boxing outside M Ali. As good as he was, he wasn't the greatest just because of what happened during the civil rights movement.
That is just stupid.
novirasputin2 1 year ago
1. Ali was the Greatest fighter ever, and that is purely judged on what he did in the ring.
2. Terrell insulted Ali's religious beliefs, as did Floyd Patterson, because they were playing the 'white man's black' in the ring, the Unlce Tom, exactly as Muhammad Ali put it. They saw what was happening to Ali because of his religious views and his politics, and they tried to make out that they were good, complacent blacks, ready to put the upstart Cassius Clay back in his place.
imavaughanstar 1 year ago
@imavaughanstar 1. Very debatable. Top 10 for sure, top 5, yea i would agree, best ever. Nope. Sorry. Sugar Ray Robinson, and Henry Armstrong def above him.
2. If it was really such an insult Ali would never feel sorry for the way he treateted them both. he did hence your argument is BS just like the nation was BS with its pedophile leaders. Reminds of the Catholics.
find a hobby.
novirasputin2 1 year ago
Your second point of argument makes no sense at all. Much like just about anything you've written up until this point not regarding Sugar Ray Robinson (he and Ali are perhaps inseperable in terms of who was the greatest boxer, that I concede and you should too).
Typical troll. Poor attitude, poor argument.
imavaughanstar 1 year ago
@novirasputin2
dont be silly. the whole world knows the greatest boxer of all time is muhammed ali.
fonzi0was0cool 1 year ago
@novirasputin2
the nation? what do you mean by the nation?
kiddo500 1 year ago
@kiddo500 the "Nation Of Islam"
FijneWIET 1 year ago
@novirasputin2 Man, Henry Armstrong was garbage. Ali would completely annihilate him, with ease. Armstrong had no defense, basic footwork, average handspeed. Ali's skill level was FAR SUPERIOR to Armstrong's. Ali would box the shit out of Henry Armstrong. Shit, Mayweather would completely destroy Armstrong too. Ali > Armstrong.
BfromSD1 1 year ago
@novirasputin2 You're an idiot to say something like that when we didn't even see Ali in his true prime. Not to mention your ignorance of racism.
jsmasterlubu3 1 year ago
@jsmasterlubu3. The sign of stupidity in this day and age is people who resort to calling someone a racist when their stupid argument is shot down and their incompetent and moronic al-sharpton type retardation comes out in the open.
Go send money to the nation of islam so they can continue their pedophilia.
novirasputin2 1 year ago
@novirasputin2 fuck you
PactardsNightmare 1 year ago
@imavaughanstar The Greatest Yes, But out of line about the name. Changing his name in mid-stream of his life confused people,Not everyone understood. I never knew anyone named 'Muhammed' at that time of my life. Just because other Blacks didn't buy into his idealogy/beliefs,didn't make them 'Uncle Toms',But he (Ali) was quick to label anyone who didn't ,just that.
Nickcat5 1 year ago
Why should changing his name confuse people? Because it's an Arabic name? Geez get over it. I'm Aussie and two of my mates are called David and Justin, one guy's named Ting-Chen. Who cares? I'm not saying everybody had become a Muslim, I'm saying that he ought to have been respected for what religion he followed. They turned against him on that because they didn't want to be gruoped together with an upstart to racism. That's cowardly.
imavaughanstar 1 year ago