John J. Miller on "The First Assassin": History, Poltics, & The Future of Publishing

[HEIGHTSIXFIVE]

Crap! I wanted REAL history on assassins! Not a book or video game! (But just for kicks, the Assassin's Creed games ROCK!)

[787Bisurdaddy]

Slavery was the Civil War's WMDs.

[787Bisurdaddy]

Ugh. I don't like this video. "Champion of human freedom"? How can Nick just sit through that bullshit? Going to war with your own country, getting 620,000 people killed, suspending habeus corpus, shutting down dissenting newspapers... doesn't sound like championing human freedom to me.

And let's not forget that Lincoln didn't actually free any slaves in border states, and that Britain ended slavery 20 years before the US did WITHOUT resorting to violence.

[GOPsithlord]

Cheers to John J. Miller from a fellow English major. I might very well give his book a look.

[pengyou1909]

Hi~I'm Korean~Nice to see you*^^*

[Nonoyawns]

John Miller...now that's an exciting name.

[vinoberg]

My link to this was "John J. Miller on "The First Ass..."

I am grossly disappointed.

[Z14LDO]

LMAO same here :-(

[caltrop69]

Yeah...I'm with you...I was expecting either a juicy Michelle Obama infidelity scandal, or a picture of a donkey in the Oval Office.

Not a book about Lincoln.

[harryogre]

Evidently this "historian" never read Lincoln's first inaugural address.

Interviewing people like this is fine, but I don't think Reason should treat them with such kind gloves.

[032125]

Lincoln assassinated the Republic and shat on the constitution.

Sic Semper Tyrannis

[monkeyfire087]

Although Lincoln did do things that were certainly questionable constitutionally, he was most certainly not a tyrant, I don't like to ask because of how much the race card is played, but are you a member of the KKK or some type of neo nazi organization. because such organizations and their members are the only ones to my knowledge foolish enough to call Lincoln a tyrant.

[032125]

Wow dude. Just wow. Your knowledge is apparently lacking, because a lot of libertarians view Lincoln as a tyrant.

Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government...

Lincoln stood in direct opposition to the core principles of the Declaration of Independence.

KKK... you twit....

[monkeyfire087]

You know I have never heard a libertarian call Lincoln a tyrant, I have only heard white supremacist call Lincoln a tyrant, I have heard many heard many libertarians say his policies were unconstitutional or foolish, but none so foolish or malicious to say he was a tyrant and that he deserved death.  I do not believe that holding the nation together in face of the south's cry of states rights as merely a means to cover their racism is destructive of those ends.

[032125]

There should be no doubt that the institution of slavery was repugnant to a free society (and to humanity as a whole) , but it was also backwards and inefficient.

Had the states been allowed to secede I think that they would have eventually done away with slavery as the rest of Europe did, without was, and without 600K+ deaths, raping, burning, and pillaging.

To claim that states rights is only a cover for racism is an egregious oversimplification that ignores the will of the founders.

[Moragauth]

It is what he was. A tyrant.

[787Bisurdaddy]

Lincoln was racist; his idea of ending slavery was to put them on a boat and send them back to Africa. He talked openly about the inferiority of negroes and his preference of white people to be above them.

He shut down dissenting newspapers, imprisoned northerners, suspended habeas corpus, forced the south to remain part of a union that they voluntarily joined, etc. Many, many people that were alive at the time called Lincoln a tyrant. He was a very hated president.

[msqtube]

relax, ... don't you have some spelling tests to grade or something?

[787Bisurdaddy]

What's wrong, don't have anything of value to add to the conversation?

[MatM926]

I must say, as a Libertarian, I don't like this guy.

[ohbobsagetpiss]

Me neither.

[Guest655321]

Perfect example of why:

Mises > Reason

[MortuusTyrannus]

LOL. I was thinking the exact same thing. Then I read your post.

Lincoln?!?!?

[Thorbie]

I'm as libertarian as the next guy, but I admit I'm a fan of fusionism. I think libertarians and conservatives really do need one another to succeed, but conservatives really do need to be the ones moving back in our direction in order to replicate anything close to the coalition Reagan had. Libertarians certainly shouldn't freely give up their votes to the GOP, but they also shouldn't be decided against any sort of union of the two ideologies.

[MooseOfReason]

Let's see. Imprisoned hundreds of thousands of people. Sent the army against his own people. Said if he could end the war without freeing a single slave he would.

Oh yeah, a real role model.

Anyway, Reason doesn't always interview libertarians.  I see that as a positive.

[return135]

Lincoln= terrible human being.

[SataiWarp]

a libertarian fan of Lincoln... are you fuckin joking me?! "kept the union together"?! Did this guy read anything at all??? King George failed to do the same, is this a bad or a good thing?! I suppose he is a fan of Hamilton, T.Roosevelt and G.W.Bush too. National Review is the most dangers magazine in America.

[Frances3654]

whats wrong with lincoln? he freed the slaves and kept the union togheter, what wrong with that?

[SataiWarp]

This was never about slavery (topic happened to come up in the 2 year of the war), and "keeping the union together" destroyed the Constitutional balance of power. Not to mention socialism, suppressing civil rights and war crimes. Read Rothbards "Americas Two Just Wars: 1775 and 1861" or stuff by DiLorenzo.

[Thorbie]

C'mon really? National Review the most dangerous magazine in America? In terms of conservative magazines, The Weekly Standard is far far worse than the magazine started by the anti-drug warrior William F. Buckley. I'll even go as far to say that National Review is quite libertarian for a conservative magazine. It's ideology hovers around Goldwater and Reagan. Regardless isn't there other magazines out there deserving of your title? The Nation, Newsweek, The New Republic...People, lol?

[ErikNikolai]

YouTube abbreviates the title of this video to "John J. Miller on "The First Ass". :-)

[stick1to2the3issue]

Yeah noticed that too...ironic.