It was Dell's fault not to say that it came with Ubuntu. I use ubuntu every day and love it alot more over windows. Frankly I dont like windows but need it to play games, because the developers decide it that way.
It's her fault for not doing research. Plus if she was really bent on getting windows even though dell wouldn't help her she could've installed windows on it
I won't blame her for not being able to figure out the new OS, but how hard could it be to do a little web search/find a computer geek friend/call verizon/go to ubuntu forum/etc.....
and to drop out of school just because of that?
My sister had used ubuntu for half a year. She turned out liking windows more. it's perfectly fine at least my sister tried.
She didn't call her ISP, she didn't call the school, she didn't ask Dell if she could swap out the OS for Windows, but she did call a news station. Pure. Fuckin'. Genius.
I have a stack of dell Windows disks you can have!! I usually throw them away.. because that's what windows is, garbage... Putting windows on a new pc is like buying a new corvette and filling the trunk full of lead!
Because you can actually convert between word documents and open office with relative ease.
Apparently she didn't even tell the tech support guy she talked to the specific problems she had, cuz then he would have told her how to save word documents out of open office. Which makes her even stupider, if that's actually possible.
@pjnlsn Office documents is one of the few things that is complete shit when it comes to converting and whatnot. It can't even convert between different Office versions properly, let alone to and from another Office package.
Ubuntu causes girl to fucking learn that she needs to look at the operating system she purchases with her computer. When you fucking buy anything in a store you look at what features it has, why the fuck can't you do that with a computer?!
to be fair, two 3 years ago it was quite a hassle to get connected to internet on ubuntu. With some distros it still is. But usually its because of crappy hardware support from manufacturers, and ISPs that don't seem to realise that people use an OS other than windows. this says less about the OS and more about society as a whole, how it just accepts the status quo, and then calls in 27 News when it all goes pear shaped.
@reallycoolman2003 I agree to this... even though my first ubuntu experience was 2 years ago it was a hassle to try and get things to work. Still in the end it was worth it, at least up to the point where I changed distro.
@chrnoc I started with various distros in 07, my computer only had 128mb ram though so i couldnt put ubuntu on. I used xubuntu however, it wasnt so much a hassle but it certainly wasnt easy OOTB, But I eventually started using Mepis 6, it was amazing, of course eventually that moved to KDE4 and I gave up on it. My two biggest distros were puppy and antix. Until eventually I had a new computer and started to use Linux Mint. I flicked between Mint and Ubuntu, but now they use Gnome 3 :-o
@reallycoolman2003 Three years ago I installed Ubuntu on my Dell and it was fucking great. It found and installed drivers for my wlan and lan. Installed drivers for my touchpad that worked better than the ones in Windows.
I think it really depends on the hardware and the distribution, most hardware just works good and out of the box.
@JustineBieberxoxo Indeed, as someone who is on LM12 at the moment, I have to say that it works great, I've even got WoW working, which a year ago on this machine was impossible. One thing that does hold alot of [non-tech] people back is the drivers, which isn't even linux' fault, its the fault of manufacturers. But if you want driver support for machines OOTB then linux is likely to be the OS for you. I also agree about touchpad drivers, my linux ones are superior too.
Most Windows hardware hide a lot of functionality in the driver(started with winmodems back in the day), serious hardware does not do this. So for certain wlan, chipsets, host-raid, we don't get drivers, and frankly, you should not want them.
For a few things, vga-cards the most prominent, you do want the drivers and the kernel is less than accomodating.
If we just had a single interface for binary hardware that only changed
@reallycoolman2003 ..between major revisions, like 2.4->2.6 or 2.6->3.0, it would be much more tempting for graphics to have Windows level vga drivers, something it needs for desktop use. It would also make clear a need for a single rendering infrastructure, right now we have Mesa, DRI, whatnot, we need a single good one.
Companies doing distro's also need to stop hacking up the kernel. It needs to be uniform across all distro's. I can't use what I learn everywhere, ...
@JustineBieberxoxo Yes its such a shame, because without uniformity there will be little if no investment. this is why companies like ubuntu are trying to make their distros look different, in order to increase popularity and investment. But sadly with the systems relying on various different operations, [xorg, mesa, gnome, unity, debian] its simply too complicated for financial investment. Which is a plus and a minus, no good games, but lots of diversity.
@JustineBieberxoxo People can do what they like with their linux distro's. But if people want to support their games on ubuntu, which tries to make itself out to be the sort of everyman's linux, then they can do so.
But excuse me if I'm not sympathetic to the conformist attitude you have.
@JustineBieberxoxo Conformism is what you're talking about. Don't tell people they need to do only certain things with their computers.
If a game developer wants to support linux, then let them just choose a particular distro and support that.All linux is more alike than it is different.
@JustineBieberxoxo As far as "people shouldn't make their OS support games," who are you referring to?
is it you? Is it like, you perhaps run linux, and when people tell you have to do one or the other thing to make a game work, you just can't handle that? What is it?
@JustineBieberxoxo You don't know what you're talking about. That has already been done by people, who have created open source graphics drivers for linux.
And then graphics card manufacturers have already written and released linux drivers of their own.
All linux is more alike than it is different. The idea that there are huge inconsistencies between linux distros, making it impossible to, say, write a graphics driver, which can only be solved by conformance, is wrong and absurd.
@pjnlsn And those open source variants peform poorly and are less stable. Even if they worked properly, there is still an inefficient rendering infrastructure bogging down the whole thing, not to mention the massive overhead from the X-server.
The closed source variants perform better, but work only on selected kernel versions due to the kernel API, and then they are stil stuck with massive overhead from X and a multitude of frameworks.
I don't mean the obvious things, like the proprietary driver is faster than the open source, I mean for linux having massive overheads and an inefficient rendering infrastructure. Compared to other OS's of course, because otherwise it's meaningless.
Lastly, have you actually run linux yourself? Do you run gentoo, perhaps?
Because your confusion could be explained by your lack of experience. Just a guess, I admit, though.
@pjnlsn Again, it is you who is talking conformance instead of standards.
Fact is there ARE huge inconsistencies between distro's. One installs every program into it's own folder, the other one only will install from source, another one will only take .deb and put it into /var, the next will do .rpm and put it into /usr/var. This is not doing well for widespread adoption and this is also the case between kernels of some distro's.
The complacent and selfrighteous attitutde about it
I just thought you were going too far in your first comments. The manner in which you suggested standards be imposed sounded a bit sinister. Just saying.
In any case, the more pertinent issue is whether you are speaking from personal experience with linux, or something you read.
Like I said, laughable to suggest that installation location inconsistency is a grave problem.
@JustineBieberxoxo And as far the portability of nVidia's driver, while your suggestion was not that absurd, I don't know any reason why it'd be true.
While you can recompile the linux kernel to any from you wish, the module interface remaines constant, and, since linux is open source, you can always compile the module against a specific kernel.
@JustineBieberxoxo nvidia's linux driver, as of now, in fact is packaged with an installer script with automatically compiles it's own interface against the kernel header files. The header files, incidentally, have standard locations.
A monkey could install nvidia's driver on practically any linux.
If all distributions are so alike, give me an example of how to install nVidia drivers on Gentoo and then installing the same driver(same version!) on a Debian box.
Show me.
And the driver is only a a part of the problem as I already clearly explained.
@JustineBieberxoxo We can talk about your issues in more depth after you answer the question below, but for now I'll just say that I it's laughable to suggest that installation location inconsistency is a grave problem.
The problem here is obviously IQ related and has nothing to do with Ubuntu. My kids have been using Linux distributions for several years now and my oldest is only 11.
As stupid as this video is, it makes a valid point. The average computer user is a fucking retard, and isn't open to learning something new. I was more than willing to educate myself on how to use several unix like operating systems; but, I'm a rare case. The sad thing is, this woman is a complete idiot, unless she needed some proprietary software that ONLY ran in windows (lets say it didn't run in wine, and she couldn't install windows in Virtualbox (idiot), she shouldn't of had any problem all
@TheShowThatSUX And you guys complain about Apple forcing user experience and sheltering users... Perfect example on why Apple does what Apple does. The good always will suffer for the bad... And she is the majority speaking. My Macbook pro caused me to fall into massive debt, sell my house, lose my car,sell my child on the black market, and raffle off my dog... Fuck this shit, im going with Vista....
@davidhamann0606 lol ya that is about right. I see why the out of the box at Apple is the way it is. But what I will never understand in Macland is what is wrong with letting an end user change the defaults. Users who would do so know what they are getting into.
That's what LiEnucks is; a bloated piece of bug ridden garbage. 1% usage share since it's a piece of obscure garbage that only low life fucked up nerds use.
I have both Windows & ubuntu and ubuntu works fine... What I can't believe is the fact that she bough a DELL computer, I hope she ends up homeless on the streets because that's what she deserves for being a dumb bitch
I hope this person is not going to college to get a teaching degree of some sort because she would literally make the people shes instructing lose IQ points.
Seriously, why wouldn't someone just go BUY Windows from their local electronics store if they can't use Ubuntu? >.> I mean hell the nearest Best Buy or Staples can't be more than 100 miles away.
OH WAIT! Now that would be COMMON SENSE! We just CANNOT have any of that, now can we?
What a crazy story.....I can't believe this helpless bitch called a TV station for something like this... LMAO! I mean - shit - why not just call the police...? Fuck, dear: install Windows. Download a copy, if need be..... You've gotta be kidding me......Ubuntu has ruined her life! How fucking crazy.
Rofl I must say and after reading all these comments all of them make me laugh as well. Unbuntu is one of the easiest if not the easiest Linux box to run. Open office > Word anyday. Also it would have been funny if she got a slack box instead of Unbuntu
I've been running Gentoo Linux for 7 years now, and have not looked back. Any Windows apps I just run then in VIrtualbox.. I know Ubuntu community can helpful, and should've just asked around the Ubuntu forums instead of calling the news station..
If our future depends on students like these then I guess it's safe to say that our economy is going to get worse as these morons enter the workforce.
What a crock of SHITE - It's expensive being stupid!! No way she spent $1100 for THAT dam thing. Maybe I should call up the local TV station and complain that my new BlueRay won't pick up the local f'n news...
$1100 my ass. I wouldn't spend over $400 on any Dell. And the only reason the poor girl had so many problems is because she was thrown into using Ubuntu without knowing anything about it. It's more stable, smoother, and all around better of an Operating system. Open office is GREAT! I used it instead of buying the stupid Microsoft office for school. Internet works fine on Ubuntu if you know how to set it up and turn it on. This news cast looked more like an attempt to turn people away from Linux
Next they say she spent $1100 dollars on THAT. Give me a break. Seriously, she could have gone down to the local best buy or walmart and spend allot less for a computer to do what she wants to do,and it would have her precious Windows (which is complete shit)
Seriously, did she not read what she was buying before buying.
This is obvious set up from Microcrap to try and knock Linux down a few pegs.
Just type the damn document, and then go SAVE AS, select Microsoft Office from the drop down box and SAVE. The to open it, just do the same as any other application.
As for the internet, who the fuck needs a CD to get online (sorry I am from Canada and we don't have such things. Our ISP's either hook a wire up to computer or set up a wireless modem and then it's as easy to set up in Ubuntu)
I admit I prefer Windows because I'm used to it, but Linux Ubuntu is an extremely solid OS. It's making the switch that is a hassle, especially when you have specific hardware that isn't always supported by Linux. I mean, just to get my 5 buttons on my mouse to work exactly how I wanted, it took a lot more effort on Linux then on Windows because the manufacturer doesn't supply Linux drivers.
I can understand this girl when she just wants to focus on school instead of on learning another OS.
@megalodonNL when was the last time you used ubuntu. she was using a 2007 version of ubuntu. ya if she would have gotten a new ubuntu laptop now days it would be easy plug in the verizon card pick the simbol click click click done. almost all drivers included if not hook ethernet up to a router. it automaticly downloads all most all drivers. compaired to windows ubuntu/linux distros. does this job much better than microsoft has ever done. lots has changed in the last year on driver support
Some things are easier in Ubuntu, yes. Less easy was:setting monitor resolution, setup 5button mouse, specific (audio producer) hardware and problems with certain games in Wine.
Still, I might install Ubuntu (dual boot) again sometime. For surfing and mailing and text editing it should be very sufficient for anyone and the best of all: no bloatware (that's why I built my own pc's and never buy complete system in a store). Win7 is a great OS though.
@goochbuntu The way she says Ubuntu was supposed to be the actual way to enunciation it (obviously that's not the case now). It's funny how he is saying she needs to work on pernunciation; it shows how much he knows. :)
Wow... I never thought someone could so stupid and unable to figure out how to use their computer. For the years I have been on linux I never had that much of a problem.
This chick is fkn retarded lol. I never in my life had a problem with Ubuntu. No more than I would in windows. This girl must not know how to use google and reaserch, because if she did she wouldn't be complaining.
How much you wanna bet Microsoft paid them to make this up and broadcast? How far Ubuntu has come along and how it is out performing windows and os x.....it wouldn't suprise me at all.
While this story could have been a story about how shitty Dell's customer service is, instead it focused on Ubuntu being a crappy OS. That is why I hate the news.
Dell can handle their customers and everyone else takes the blame.
What a joke! Ubuntu is so much more powerful than windows...
I do not have windows machines at home, only LINUX!!! And four of them! No big money sucking windows constantly updating and so highly virus prone operating systems for me!!!
No need to have to pay for a third party software to protect from viruses like windows makes you...
Yes because Microsoft Windows in the only operating system in the world and the less like Windows your machine is, the worse it is. I like there thinking. It's absolutely terrible that Windows CDs that she puts in her computer don't work on her operating system, Windows can open files from any operating system and the fact that MS word would not install on her system is just ridiculous, it's not like libreoffice or open office can open MS word files
actually there are a lot of people that are trained into thinking windows just always works without problems so I can see her calling dell back but not a news channel ??? wtf. dell appears to have dropped the ball with their tech. support, they should easily have been able to help her get up and running for web stuff at the very least. then again maybe they were under orders from ms NOT to help anyone with a ubuntu laptop
Unfortunately this represents most people I know. This is clearly a set up against open source. Humm not much re-learning necessary here. Minus all of the flashy windows buttons zippers and garbage. Ubuntu has 99.9% compatible user needs for school out of the box -DRM,OLE. Office -> through Openoffice org or libreoffice, including power points, and many more. There is no problems connecting to online courses either. I got an A on MS office class with no effort using Ubuntu/open source software.
The girl did not want to spend time learning a new OS, she wanted to get on the Internet and take on-line courses. She is not a techno-wizard, does not know where to turn for - are even that there is tons of help for her. She wants to take on-line courses! I don't blame her. If she went with M$ Win and when she like a lot of us get tired of BSODs crashes that give no helpfull info, and vague support. That is when Linux starts to look nice. I am 6 yrs full time linux
Openoffice is fully compatible with office, And it's verizons fault, not ubuntu that they didnt make a driver for her wireless usb. That said just go buy a copy of windows you noob.
This kid needs to go back to Kindergarten. She doesn't even have basic commonsense. Why not learn how to use ubuntu? anyway that is not how you install windows. Put in the CD then reboot.
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She couldn't connect to the Internet? ... was her wireless router on because the connection is made automatically!!! Did she even know how to TURN ON her computer?
I think it is equally as much of a "facepalm"-moment when she can't use Ubuntu, as to listen to these newa guys haveing no idea of what they are acctually talking about. They are just reading off the text-to-read-monitor infront of them, written by someone with as little knowledge aswell. And as so many have said: The newsreaders' pronounciation of "UBUNTU" is horrible. That is al least the one thing the girl gets correct. :P
Before subscribing to a college she should learn to read descriptions of online offers. She just made her choice wrong. If she has no idea about technology, she should have asked someone. And no matter if Windows or Linux: Who the hell needs a CD to get online?
did someone tell her sudo rm -rf /bin???? she can pay me 25000 for a 50 dollar bat house and ill give her tech support.... ie a link to my threads on ubuntu forums and a reminder to RTFM before you call the local news.....
WHAT A 1100 LAPTOP
Hi675445 12 hours ago
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how much was the pc tho if it was under 300 you will not get windows on it
Hi675445 12 hours ago
lololol if your use to windows and not use to change ubuntu not your thing because it not windows
Hi675445 12 hours ago
Ubuntu is a waste of time imo.
DanielSeriously 13 hours ago
It was Dell's fault not to say that it came with Ubuntu. I use ubuntu every day and love it alot more over windows. Frankly I dont like windows but need it to play games, because the developers decide it that way.
CyborgSmurf 1 day ago
It's her fault for not doing research. Plus if she was really bent on getting windows even though dell wouldn't help her she could've installed windows on it
NJdaniels96 4 days ago
i feel bad for ignorant people...
cameronmackintosh10 4 days ago
wow retard
CbassTheGreat 1 week ago
@CbassTheGreat Ya, Lunix is a retard.
BattlePikeQueerLucy 1 week ago 6
I won't blame her for not being able to figure out the new OS, but how hard could it be to do a little web search/find a computer geek friend/call verizon/go to ubuntu forum/etc.....
and to drop out of school just because of that?
My sister had used ubuntu for half a year. She turned out liking windows more. it's perfectly fine at least my sister tried.
This girl is just an asshole.
afyaff 1 week ago
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lienucksfails2 1 week ago
She didn't call her ISP, she didn't call the school, she didn't ask Dell if she could swap out the OS for Windows, but she did call a news station. Pure. Fuckin'. Genius.
therealjammit 1 week ago
Guess what OS I'm using? Yup, Ubuntu. Stupid stupid girl, read the details before you purchase.
ZeeJeff 1 week ago
shes not smart enough to use Ubuntu linux., its not the computer!
richard33043 2 weeks ago
I have a stack of dell Windows disks you can have!! I usually throw them away.. because that's what windows is, garbage... Putting windows on a new pc is like buying a new corvette and filling the trunk full of lead!
pharmerzz 2 weeks ago
I installed Ubuntu and it burned my house down and shot my dog!!
aspivey73 2 weeks ago
Well........that girl is a bit dim, isn't she?
Because you can actually convert between word documents and open office with relative ease.
Apparently she didn't even tell the tech support guy she talked to the specific problems she had, cuz then he would have told her how to save word documents out of open office. Which makes her even stupider, if that's actually possible.
pjnlsn 3 weeks ago
@pjnlsn Office documents is one of the few things that is complete shit when it comes to converting and whatnot. It can't even convert between different Office versions properly, let alone to and from another Office package.
JustineBieberxoxo 3 weeks ago
Ubuntu causes girl to fucking learn that she needs to look at the operating system she purchases with her computer. When you fucking buy anything in a store you look at what features it has, why the fuck can't you do that with a computer?!
ZeeJeff 3 weeks ago
..............laptops as well as dell suck in general
travisman1994 3 weeks ago
She's f@ken stupid. I do everything in Ubuntu. It's freaken gr8!
coertzenjfs 3 weeks ago
to be fair, two 3 years ago it was quite a hassle to get connected to internet on ubuntu. With some distros it still is. But usually its because of crappy hardware support from manufacturers, and ISPs that don't seem to realise that people use an OS other than windows. this says less about the OS and more about society as a whole, how it just accepts the status quo, and then calls in 27 News when it all goes pear shaped.
reallycoolman2003 3 weeks ago
@reallycoolman2003 I agree to this... even though my first ubuntu experience was 2 years ago it was a hassle to try and get things to work. Still in the end it was worth it, at least up to the point where I changed distro.
chrnoc 3 weeks ago
@chrnoc I started with various distros in 07, my computer only had 128mb ram though so i couldnt put ubuntu on. I used xubuntu however, it wasnt so much a hassle but it certainly wasnt easy OOTB, But I eventually started using Mepis 6, it was amazing, of course eventually that moved to KDE4 and I gave up on it. My two biggest distros were puppy and antix. Until eventually I had a new computer and started to use Linux Mint. I flicked between Mint and Ubuntu, but now they use Gnome 3 :-o
reallycoolman2003 3 weeks ago
@reallycoolman2003 Three years ago I installed Ubuntu on my Dell and it was fucking great. It found and installed drivers for my wlan and lan. Installed drivers for my touchpad that worked better than the ones in Windows.
I think it really depends on the hardware and the distribution, most hardware just works good and out of the box.
JustineBieberxoxo 3 weeks ago 2
@JustineBieberxoxo Indeed, as someone who is on LM12 at the moment, I have to say that it works great, I've even got WoW working, which a year ago on this machine was impossible. One thing that does hold alot of [non-tech] people back is the drivers, which isn't even linux' fault, its the fault of manufacturers. But if you want driver support for machines OOTB then linux is likely to be the OS for you. I also agree about touchpad drivers, my linux ones are superior too.
reallycoolman2003 2 weeks ago
@reallycoolman2003 Drivers are partly linux fault.
Most Windows hardware hide a lot of functionality in the driver(started with winmodems back in the day), serious hardware does not do this. So for certain wlan, chipsets, host-raid, we don't get drivers, and frankly, you should not want them.
For a few things, vga-cards the most prominent, you do want the drivers and the kernel is less than accomodating.
If we just had a single interface for binary hardware that only changed
JustineBieberxoxo 2 weeks ago
@reallycoolman2003 ..between major revisions, like 2.4->2.6 or 2.6->3.0, it would be much more tempting for graphics to have Windows level vga drivers, something it needs for desktop use. It would also make clear a need for a single rendering infrastructure, right now we have Mesa, DRI, whatnot, we need a single good one.
Companies doing distro's also need to stop hacking up the kernel. It needs to be uniform across all distro's. I can't use what I learn everywhere, ...
JustineBieberxoxo 2 weeks ago
@reallycoolman2003 ..a big drawback if you ask me.
It just needs that little bit of uniformity across all distro's, a proper driverinterface and one or two fast rendering infrastructures.
This will bring drivers, brings game(r)s, brings the masses.
A system might be 100x better and more manageable, but people need to be able to demo nice sparkly graphics.
JustineBieberxoxo 2 weeks ago
@JustineBieberxoxo Yes its such a shame, because without uniformity there will be little if no investment. this is why companies like ubuntu are trying to make their distros look different, in order to increase popularity and investment. But sadly with the systems relying on various different operations, [xorg, mesa, gnome, unity, debian] its simply too complicated for financial investment. Which is a plus and a minus, no good games, but lots of diversity.
reallycoolman2003 2 weeks ago
@reallycoolman2003 You can still have a shitload of diversity if you just have a little uniformity.
Just standardise the filesystem layout, config files and API & ABI of the kernel and sound and video infrastructure. That's it.
That way as a dev you can still make dir's if you use links and you can still alter the kernel just not too much.
This is why I welcome Linux Standard Base and initiatives like it so much.
It would of course be a choice to stick to it, as always.
JustineBieberxoxo 2 weeks ago
@JustineBieberxoxo People can do what they like with their linux distro's. But if people want to support their games on ubuntu, which tries to make itself out to be the sort of everyman's linux, then they can do so.
But excuse me if I'm not sympathetic to the conformist attitude you have.
pjnlsn 2 weeks ago
@pjnlsn Conformist? You used that word, not me. Just remember that.
People are not the ones that can or should make their os support games, that's not practical in any way.
Why is Ubuntu the game linux?
Do you even know what I talked about?
JustineBieberxoxo 2 weeks ago
@JustineBieberxoxo Conformism is what you're talking about. Don't tell people they need to do only certain things with their computers.
If a game developer wants to support linux, then let them just choose a particular distro and support that.All linux is more alike than it is different.
pjnlsn 2 weeks ago
@JustineBieberxoxo As far as "people shouldn't make their OS support games," who are you referring to?
is it you? Is it like, you perhaps run linux, and when people tell you have to do one or the other thing to make a game work, you just can't handle that? What is it?
pjnlsn 2 weeks ago
@JustineBieberxoxo What should happen is that if you run a computer, you should know how it works.
pjnlsn 2 weeks ago
@pjnlsn And that includes altering the kernel source and/or writing renderin infrastructures and open source drivers for your vga cards? Get real.
JustineBieberxoxo 2 weeks ago
@JustineBieberxoxo You don't know what you're talking about. That has already been done by people, who have created open source graphics drivers for linux.
And then graphics card manufacturers have already written and released linux drivers of their own.
All linux is more alike than it is different. The idea that there are huge inconsistencies between linux distros, making it impossible to, say, write a graphics driver, which can only be solved by conformance, is wrong and absurd.
pjnlsn 2 weeks ago
@pjnlsn And those open source variants peform poorly and are less stable. Even if they worked properly, there is still an inefficient rendering infrastructure bogging down the whole thing, not to mention the massive overhead from the X-server.
The closed source variants perform better, but work only on selected kernel versions due to the kernel API, and then they are stil stuck with massive overhead from X and a multitude of frameworks.
I said standards, not conformance.
JustineBieberxoxo 2 weeks ago
@JustineBieberxoxo Mm.
Can you source any of that?
I don't mean the obvious things, like the proprietary driver is faster than the open source, I mean for linux having massive overheads and an inefficient rendering infrastructure. Compared to other OS's of course, because otherwise it's meaningless.
Lastly, have you actually run linux yourself? Do you run gentoo, perhaps?
Because your confusion could be explained by your lack of experience. Just a guess, I admit, though.
pjnlsn 2 weeks ago
@pjnlsn Again, it is you who is talking conformance instead of standards.
Fact is there ARE huge inconsistencies between distro's. One installs every program into it's own folder, the other one only will install from source, another one will only take .deb and put it into /var, the next will do .rpm and put it into /usr/var. This is not doing well for widespread adoption and this is also the case between kernels of some distro's.
The complacent and selfrighteous attitutde about it
JustineBieberxoxo 2 weeks ago
@JustineBieberxoxo I'm the one using the word, but you're the one advocating for it.
pjnlsn 2 weeks ago
@pjnlsn Look up the exact definition of conformism.
JustineBieberxoxo 1 week ago
@JustineBieberxoxo Mm.
I just thought you were going too far in your first comments. The manner in which you suggested standards be imposed sounded a bit sinister. Just saying.
In any case, the more pertinent issue is whether you are speaking from personal experience with linux, or something you read.
Like I said, laughable to suggest that installation location inconsistency is a grave problem.
pjnlsn 1 week ago
@JustineBieberxoxo And as far the portability of nVidia's driver, while your suggestion was not that absurd, I don't know any reason why it'd be true.
While you can recompile the linux kernel to any from you wish, the module interface remaines constant, and, since linux is open source, you can always compile the module against a specific kernel.
pjnlsn 1 week ago
@JustineBieberxoxo nvidia's linux driver, as of now, in fact is packaged with an installer script with automatically compiles it's own interface against the kernel header files. The header files, incidentally, have standard locations.
A monkey could install nvidia's driver on practically any linux.
pjnlsn 1 week ago
@pjnlsn from people like you is not helping it.
If all distributions are so alike, give me an example of how to install nVidia drivers on Gentoo and then installing the same driver(same version!) on a Debian box.
Show me.
And the driver is only a a part of the problem as I already clearly explained.
JustineBieberxoxo 2 weeks ago
@JustineBieberxoxo We can talk about your issues in more depth after you answer the question below, but for now I'll just say that I it's laughable to suggest that installation location inconsistency is a grave problem.
pjnlsn 2 weeks ago
What a fucking retard. HURRRR INTERNET NO WURK. HOW DO I LIBRE OFFICE? HURRRRRRRRRRR.
F0ulPlayProductions 3 weeks ago
"Dell said, 'it's too late to go back to windows"
fucking what.
Letiferify 3 weeks ago
I'm missing the sad music and black and white recordings of her crying......
most crappy news item... ever.....
8l4ck4c3 3 weeks ago
"Her life was supposed to get easier with this new DELL laptop."
"DELL."
"D."
"D:"
thers ur prolem
Triffgits 3 weeks ago
The problem here is obviously IQ related and has nothing to do with Ubuntu. My kids have been using Linux distributions for several years now and my oldest is only 11.
hack2makelivesbetter 3 weeks ago
she should stick with prostitution
igrenade 3 weeks ago
all my rage
n11lc2 3 weeks ago
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As stupid as this video is, it makes a valid point. The average computer user is a fucking retard, and isn't open to learning something new. I was more than willing to educate myself on how to use several unix like operating systems; but, I'm a rare case. The sad thing is, this woman is a complete idiot, unless she needed some proprietary software that ONLY ran in windows (lets say it didn't run in wine, and she couldn't install windows in Virtualbox (idiot), she shouldn't of had any problem all
vhunterd666 3 weeks ago 8
I think I got a bit dumber watching this...
SomeGuyInSandy 3 weeks ago
@SomeGuyInSandy I tend to agree
TheShowThatSUX 3 weeks ago
@TheShowThatSUX And you guys complain about Apple forcing user experience and sheltering users... Perfect example on why Apple does what Apple does. The good always will suffer for the bad... And she is the majority speaking. My Macbook pro caused me to fall into massive debt, sell my house, lose my car,sell my child on the black market, and raffle off my dog... Fuck this shit, im going with Vista....
davidhamann0606 3 weeks ago
@davidhamann0606 lol ya that is about right. I see why the out of the box at Apple is the way it is. But what I will never understand in Macland is what is wrong with letting an end user change the defaults. Users who would do so know what they are getting into.
TheShowThatSUX 3 weeks ago
wow
jaznpwnz 3 weeks ago
"her life was supposed to start getting easier with this new dell laptop"
first world problems
AnteroX1234 3 weeks ago
Imagine the anal devastation Richard Stallman would have if he saw this video, VideoGames are not even an excuse now.
porkyminch01 3 weeks ago
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i agree with the dude at 2:44, she is a huge asshole
SomethingRules 4 weeks ago 25
@SomethingRules Learn some English, retard - he said:
"What a huge hassle"
That's what LiEnucks is; a bloated piece of bug ridden garbage. 1% usage share since it's a piece of obscure garbage that only low life fucked up nerds use.
BattlePikeQueerLucy 1 week ago 5
@BattlePikeQueerLucy lol i don't give a fuck about this stupid nerd shit dawg, i was just making a joke. quit getting mad at the internet
and yeah i realize he said hassle
SomethingRules 1 week ago
@BattlePikeQueerLucy you can slob on my cock!!!!!! you get my english now????
CbassTheGreat 1 week ago
I'd love to see what she would do with Arch.
PxShadowUK 4 weeks ago
I have both Windows & ubuntu and ubuntu works fine... What I can't believe is the fact that she bough a DELL computer, I hope she ends up homeless on the streets because that's what she deserves for being a dumb bitch
rockboy365987826 4 weeks ago
I hope this person is not going to college to get a teaching degree of some sort because she would literally make the people shes instructing lose IQ points.
Seriously, why wouldn't someone just go BUY Windows from their local electronics store if they can't use Ubuntu? >.> I mean hell the nearest Best Buy or Staples can't be more than 100 miles away.
OH WAIT! Now that would be COMMON SENSE! We just CANNOT have any of that, now can we?
xCr00k3Dx 4 weeks ago
@xCr00k3Dx >Implying my teachers weren't hardcore Christians that taught me cartoons are demons, dat loli is such demon yo.
porkyminch01 3 weeks ago
What a crazy story.....I can't believe this helpless bitch called a TV station for something like this... LMAO! I mean - shit - why not just call the police...? Fuck, dear: install Windows. Download a copy, if need be..... You've gotta be kidding me......Ubuntu has ruined her life! How fucking crazy.
guymerritt 4 weeks ago
LOOOOL!!! wtf is wubantu hahahaha
Xazard 4 weeks ago
Rofl I must say and after reading all these comments all of them make me laugh as well. Unbuntu is one of the easiest if not the easiest Linux box to run. Open office > Word anyday. Also it would have been funny if she got a slack box instead of Unbuntu
torkizpoison 4 weeks ago
Ubantou
OceanRiot17 4 weeks ago
I've been running Gentoo Linux for 7 years now, and have not looked back. Any Windows apps I just run then in VIrtualbox.. I know Ubuntu community can helpful, and should've just asked around the Ubuntu forums instead of calling the news station..
If our future depends on students like these then I guess it's safe to say that our economy is going to get worse as these morons enter the workforce.
jessejj89 1 month ago
What a crock of SHITE - It's expensive being stupid!! No way she spent $1100 for THAT dam thing. Maybe I should call up the local TV station and complain that my new BlueRay won't pick up the local f'n news...
mardogz 1 month ago
I think I should drop out of college... The Operating Systems I have are Ubuntu 11.10 and Ubuntu Studio... GO LINUX!!
megafartproductions 1 month ago
She wants to use MS word? Isn't she aware that Libre/Open Office is compatible with Microsoft Office?
GovGoose 1 month ago
Lol Mainstream media ignorance at its finest.
EeeScape 1 month ago
MATC? Madison Area Tech College?
815Sox 1 month ago
@815Sox
Yeah. This was from 27 news in madison.
LineRiderGod11 3 weeks ago
dumb bitch... ever hear of "save as" or "export" dumbass
jjohnkane 1 month ago
$1100 my ass. I wouldn't spend over $400 on any Dell. And the only reason the poor girl had so many problems is because she was thrown into using Ubuntu without knowing anything about it. It's more stable, smoother, and all around better of an Operating system. Open office is GREAT! I used it instead of buying the stupid Microsoft office for school. Internet works fine on Ubuntu if you know how to set it up and turn it on. This news cast looked more like an attempt to turn people away from Linux
2009screwball 1 month ago
Next they say she spent $1100 dollars on THAT. Give me a break. Seriously, she could have gone down to the local best buy or walmart and spend allot less for a computer to do what she wants to do,and it would have her precious Windows (which is complete shit)
Seriously, did she not read what she was buying before buying.
This is obvious set up from Microcrap to try and knock Linux down a few pegs.
snake2006 1 month ago
Hassle. Open Office IS MICROSOFT WORD COMPATIBLE.
Just type the damn document, and then go SAVE AS, select Microsoft Office from the drop down box and SAVE. The to open it, just do the same as any other application.
As for the internet, who the fuck needs a CD to get online (sorry I am from Canada and we don't have such things. Our ISP's either hook a wire up to computer or set up a wireless modem and then it's as easy to set up in Ubuntu)
snake2006 1 month ago
Dear Abby, Here is your cheque as we agreed. (Hope it helps with your college fees!) Yours Truly,
S. Ballmer
SockThePuppets 1 month ago
I admit I prefer Windows because I'm used to it, but Linux Ubuntu is an extremely solid OS. It's making the switch that is a hassle, especially when you have specific hardware that isn't always supported by Linux. I mean, just to get my 5 buttons on my mouse to work exactly how I wanted, it took a lot more effort on Linux then on Windows because the manufacturer doesn't supply Linux drivers.
I can understand this girl when she just wants to focus on school instead of on learning another OS.
megalodonNL 1 month ago
@megalodonNL when was the last time you used ubuntu. she was using a 2007 version of ubuntu. ya if she would have gotten a new ubuntu laptop now days it would be easy plug in the verizon card pick the simbol click click click done. almost all drivers included if not hook ethernet up to a router. it automaticly downloads all most all drivers. compaired to windows ubuntu/linux distros. does this job much better than microsoft has ever done. lots has changed in the last year on driver support
goochbuntu 1 month ago
@goochbuntu
Last year.
Some things are easier in Ubuntu, yes. Less easy was:setting monitor resolution, setup 5button mouse, specific (audio producer) hardware and problems with certain games in Wine.
Still, I might install Ubuntu (dual boot) again sometime. For surfing and mailing and text editing it should be very sufficient for anyone and the best of all: no bloatware (that's why I built my own pc's and never buy complete system in a store). Win7 is a great OS though.
megalodonNL 1 month ago
LMFAO
mrselfdestructpart5 1 month ago
i wonder how much they were payed to bash linux
drnapster 1 month ago
It's pronounced oo-boon-too. Not oo-bun-too
TheUberAtheist 1 month ago
@TheUberAtheist I pronounce it as oo-bun-too.
KnucklesARouge 1 month ago
@KnucklesARouge Ubuntu, the word, is actually an African proverb... it means "I am what I am because of who we all are."
TheUberAtheist 1 month ago
@TheUberAtheist i pronounce it the way mark shuttleworth does
goochbuntu 1 month ago
@goochbuntu The way she says Ubuntu was supposed to be the actual way to enunciation it (obviously that's not the case now). It's funny how he is saying she needs to work on pernunciation; it shows how much he knows. :)
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TheUberAtheist 1 month ago
this poor girl needs to get some computer knowledge before she buys computers on line, that's for experts
topito2 1 month ago
"and like, I only know about barbie dolls, and like, iPods and stuff."
this is such a bullshit news story, almost as bad as all of the plugging they do for crapple and that fucking iPad crap as if it is something new
HYeahMFr 1 month ago
Those reporters are more non-educated that that user.
Note that user were ABLE to continue schooling AND using OpenOffice/LibreOffice AND Internet in no time after this.
So basically, everything worked for this girl but she just wanted to drag about it on public,
and she got Cheaper laptop with ALL software for free and licensed.
Quite sounds like Whole story is not true due to misunderstanding that is media-exaggerated
mrjonnoma 1 month ago
I wonder how much microsoft paid for this hatchet job?
PRM2643 1 month ago 2
Wow... I never thought someone could so stupid and unable to figure out how to use their computer. For the years I have been on linux I never had that much of a problem.
GregLH0 1 month ago
@Laogahn EXACTLY lol this chick is just retarded as hell.....oh wait......she's a blonde lol
MrJhawk65 1 month ago
This chick is fkn retarded lol. I never in my life had a problem with Ubuntu. No more than I would in windows. This girl must not know how to use google and reaserch, because if she did she wouldn't be complaining.
How much you wanna bet Microsoft paid them to make this up and broadcast? How far Ubuntu has come along and how it is out performing windows and os x.....it wouldn't suprise me at all.
MrJhawk65 1 month ago
While this story could have been a story about how shitty Dell's customer service is, instead it focused on Ubuntu being a crappy OS. That is why I hate the news.
Dell can handle their customers and everyone else takes the blame.
ezio2altair 1 month ago 2
she should be shot..... LINUX OR GTFO!
xwalshyx 1 month ago
if she ever comes in-front of me i am gonna kick her ass, bitch!!
Ubuntu 7.10 had open office :/
evilatsnipe 1 month ago
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darkknight772010 1 month ago
Let's sell her a computer with Arch or better yet Slackware and see what her reaction would be. TEOTWAWKI
LordEreinionXXV 1 month ago
What a joke! Ubuntu is so much more powerful than windows...
I do not have windows machines at home, only LINUX!!! And four of them! No big money sucking windows constantly updating and so highly virus prone operating systems for me!!!
No need to have to pay for a third party software to protect from viruses like windows makes you...
dbuster2007 1 month ago 2
This girl has obviously never heard of Wine. She also obviously has no idea how to use Ubuntu.
LaoGahn 1 month ago
Lol, can't go back. What a dumbass. Usual Dell support.
Kingddd333 1 month ago
hard hitting journalism
samwestbrook1 1 month ago
She is a dumb bitch & shouldn't be on the net.
00zian00 1 month ago 7
@00zian00 Amen.
paulkn6 1 month ago
Too late to switch to windows you say? Bullshit
0SlipKnoT12345678 1 month ago
>choose open source option
>complain that computer comes with open source
I'd like to complain about my Mac, I ordered it but it didn't arrive with windows, can I be on the news please
whipaura00 2 months ago 2
clearly she doesnt know how to use UBUNTU because ubuntu is awesome
snipe2531 2 months ago
WHAT. A . DUMB. SHIT.
TheArmedHamster 2 months ago
Wow. This is sad. This girl is retarded. I run Linux and it's better you dumbass. Why is this on the news?! WTF
supertechmom 2 months ago
>purchasing a shitty dell
>not making sure that it comes with windows
>not purchasing a copy of windows
>can't figure out how to get internet on ubuntu
>dell shit support
>call a local news station
Oh yeah, she'll do well in school.
TheGNUfan 2 months ago 71
@TheGNUfan >2011
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@TheGNUfan Her talking sounds like she is drugged.
Uknown231231231 1 month ago
@TheGNUfan
May the rage be with GNU.
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ravenrage07 2 months ago
WAT IS REIMAGING I AM NOT GUD WIT COMPUTUR O GOD/////////////1111111
TheSuperScoot 2 months ago
Yes because Microsoft Windows in the only operating system in the world and the less like Windows your machine is, the worse it is. I like there thinking. It's absolutely terrible that Windows CDs that she puts in her computer don't work on her operating system, Windows can open files from any operating system and the fact that MS word would not install on her system is just ridiculous, it's not like libreoffice or open office can open MS word files
jimmycelt 2 months ago
Stupid.
benjaminisaacallen 2 months ago
actually there are a lot of people that are trained into thinking windows just always works without problems so I can see her calling dell back but not a news channel ??? wtf. dell appears to have dropped the ball with their tech. support, they should easily have been able to help her get up and running for web stuff at the very least. then again maybe they were under orders from ms NOT to help anyone with a ubuntu laptop
SinistaN 2 months ago
Unfortunately this represents most people I know. This is clearly a set up against open source. Humm not much re-learning necessary here. Minus all of the flashy windows buttons zippers and garbage. Ubuntu has 99.9% compatible user needs for school out of the box -DRM,OLE. Office -> through Openoffice org or libreoffice, including power points, and many more. There is no problems connecting to online courses either. I got an A on MS office class with no effort using Ubuntu/open source software.
Jamacast 2 months ago
Dudes lay of of her...
The girl did not want to spend time learning a new OS, she wanted to get on the Internet and take on-line courses. She is not a techno-wizard, does not know where to turn for - are even that there is tons of help for her. She wants to take on-line courses! I don't blame her. If she went with M$ Win and when she like a lot of us get tired of BSODs crashes that give no helpfull info, and vague support. That is when Linux starts to look nice. I am 6 yrs full time linux
richlaue 2 months ago
LOL! Wow. That's all I can say to this one. Ubuntu FTW. ;-)
Toddimyre 2 months ago
What the hell is so difficult in saying Ubuntu? It's Ooboontoo, not iubantyu. Now I wanna see if they can say Gentoo, lol
Nacionarg 2 months ago
this girl has a negative QI coefficient...
um3ggh1u 2 months ago
holy shit... this actually was in the news? o.o
NyZe211 2 months ago
how do i remove Lubuntu ?
gogoutube 2 months ago
Openoffice is fully compatible with office, And it's verizons fault, not ubuntu that they didnt make a driver for her wireless usb. That said just go buy a copy of windows you noob.
xAlucard9000x 2 months ago
This kid needs to go back to Kindergarten. She doesn't even have basic commonsense. Why not learn how to use ubuntu? anyway that is not how you install windows. Put in the CD then reboot.
thatsmyh0rse 2 months ago 3
lmfao, this girl is an idiot.
But nice of the news guy to help her, I guess.
oywidapoodles 2 months ago 3
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FrancescoInnovation 2 months ago
Too bad they didn't send her a slackware laptop.
mandolinraman 2 months ago 17
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bretert 2 months ago 3
Try looking at what your buying next time, don't blame Ubuntu cause you bought the wrong thing. Also, Ubuntu isn't exactly a difficult word.
k3ytech 2 months ago
She couldn't connect to the Internet? ... was her wireless router on because the connection is made automatically!!! Did she even know how to TURN ON her computer?
JARAMILLOI 2 months ago
OMG! How did she pass college entrance exams? So, so sad.
rothkoaintdead 2 months ago
I think it is equally as much of a "facepalm"-moment when she can't use Ubuntu, as to listen to these newa guys haveing no idea of what they are acctually talking about. They are just reading off the text-to-read-monitor infront of them, written by someone with as little knowledge aswell. And as so many have said: The newsreaders' pronounciation of "UBUNTU" is horrible. That is al least the one thing the girl gets correct. :P
Wistbacka 3 months ago
Before subscribing to a college she should learn to read descriptions of online offers. She just made her choice wrong. If she has no idea about technology, she should have asked someone. And no matter if Windows or Linux: Who the hell needs a CD to get online?
trillian1964 3 months ago 2
*Faceplam*
GordonFrohman20 3 months ago
Hey I'm gonna go buy a banana
Bananas: $2
Pears: $1
Oh cool a pear flavored banana! It's cheaper as well!
Wait what the fuck why does this banana taste like pears?
mau5turbation 3 months ago 2
1. They're pronouncing it wrong.
2. Dell's webpage allows you to buy a computer with Ubuntu or Windows. Ubuntu PC's are cheaper.
3. OpenOffice DOES open microsoft office documents.
4. Ubuntu includes a utility to utilize verizon networks. without the need for addon drivers.
5. If Ubuntu somehow can't access google.com with FireFox (used on windows as well), try connecting to the internet in the first place.
6. Try Wine.
proxythe1337 3 months ago 4
@proxythe1337 She did try point 6... But the spelling she tried was "whine."
Cephalus00 3 months ago
@Cephalus00 You, Sir or Madam win the internet.
proxythe1337 3 months ago
what dell said "What the fuck why did she buy it with ubuntu instead of windows if she wanted windows"
izbm666 3 months ago
haha they make fun of her pronunciation when they're the ones pronouncing it wrong
multiwebinc 3 months ago
This is awesome lol! Stupid people... Now Ubuntu gets bad press because of dumb people.
dover1982 3 months ago
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fucking bull shit
sevenfoldevil 3 months ago
Only in ameri-cra!
TheFaanie 3 months ago
did someone tell her sudo rm -rf /bin???? she can pay me 25000 for a 50 dollar bat house and ill give her tech support.... ie a link to my threads on ubuntu forums and a reminder to RTFM before you call the local news.....
666threesixes666 3 months ago
$1,100 for a laptop loaded with Ubuntu sounds pretty steep to me. But I use Ubuntu and it works just fine.
6golfer2 3 months ago
-_-
CakeBeneathTheIcing 3 months ago
Use WINE and Ubuntu runs fine.
Nebulae8 3 months ago
What a fucking humiliating video.
aelia92 3 months ago
"my setup CD isnt working"
MA'AM STAY CALM WE'RE SENDING THE SWAT TEAM IN
Chombijou 3 months ago 2
Stupid girl, Ubuntu is easy to use. I think she needed an excuse to stay out of school.
WWhitegoat 3 months ago 4
trololollllllllllllllll
the only problem is the customer. should have chose the OS before ordering!
you make a product that is idiot proof, and god makes an improved idiot!
immak4u 3 months ago 3
That was one of the most excruciating videos I've ever seen.
yurimxpxman 3 months ago
so buy a copy of windows and hit next a few times, fucking stupid people.
xAlucard9000x 3 months ago
Stupidity causes girl to drop out of college
She then went to protest at wall street with all the other stupid hipsters who blow their money on iPads and designer clothing
FiskieXS 3 months ago
"but it is not windows and what works on windows doesn´t always work on ubuntu"
Pure Genius...
Yeah...
It´s sarcasm...
DarkenXIII 3 months ago
LINUX WAS NOT THE PROBLEM!
DELL WAS!
MorkaGraven 3 months ago
@MorkaGraven Actually it wasn't either of their problems. It was the dumbass girl in the video.
Th3Downz 3 months ago 3
This girl is a fucking idiot.
RetardRacer0 3 months ago 60
@RetardRacer0 Ubuntu is fucking easiest. Get wine if you want to run windows programs...