I suck at pentatonic scale improvising . I was wondering if you guys have tried putting stickers with the tones on the fretboard from Ebay I think they're called fretnotes .Any advice ?
I suck at pentatonic scale improvising . I was wondering if you guys have tried putting stickers with the tones on the fretboard from Ebay I think they're called fretnotes .Any advice ?
how do we use this pentatonic scales, for example if the other guitar is playin in Am we use Am pentatonic and if he change to F do we have to chande our pentatonic to F too???
@ercspy No, Am pentatonic stills sounds nice over F. Think of Am pentatonic as a shorter version of the Am scale.
A-B-C-D-E-F-G-A
A----C-D-E----G-A
If the rhythm hangs on the F for a while, you can modulate and make a strong contrast by changing to F major or minor pentatonic. You can even switch up betwen A and F scales. It's all up to your creativity.
I have another YouTube video that might help, too. MJS Lead Guitar Lesson Using Scales & Modes with Chords.
@roge69charger Thanks. Once youre familiar with the positions in the book or DVD, then it is easier to apply it to the rest of the scale. For example, increments of 3 applied to each position. F-G-A/G-A-B/A-B-C, etc.
Thanks a lot for your advice, I hope you come out with another book, I read you're going to have a more advance book, I believe it was called, "Black Belt for the Guitarist" If I'm correct,
I also study 4 note Chord Scales in another book, But, Find it tedious, I forget some of the positions at times, I constantly repeat, and repeat.
I'll be purchasing your Chord System book too. Thanks a lot, Changed my Playing a lot, Instantly. Keep up the Great Work!
This helps in a few ways. You get used to playing on the whole neck, you exercise your fingers while learning the techniques and applications that you will use when writing or improvising solos. The course progresses from easy to difficult. I recommend doing them in that order. After a while it becomes second nature.
@halb42 this helps but without seeing it it's hard to absorb. you don't know of any documentation explaining this do you? if so could you pm me? thanks again
one question....when you are playing the scales it says you are playing in the "key of C" and all of the patterns are all the "A minor scale" but the patterns are moved all over. i thought if you moved them they become different scales. can you shed some light?
Best discussion of pentatonic scales I've heard so far. Specifically, that those scales are the same as the natural major and minor scales, but with the 4th and 7th notes or "degrees" omitted. Very good way of teaching this, unlike most other instruction. I gave you 5 stars! Thanks!
This is the only scale i know and i have been playing for about 3 years now, i do not have lessons i have never had lessons. is that bad that this is the only scale i know?
I can play a good solo, and I could play loads of other scales, but this is the only one i have ever bothered to learn. I will practise the other now i know tho, thanks.
no it aint bad dude if your mostly rock or metal, you can do alot with this scale just be creative with it till things click you'll know what sounds right and what dont, at least get really good at pentatonic before learning others you catch on better to other scales
If you are happy with that then no. If you are not happy with that then yes its bad. So got and learn the major scale and all modes within that scale now.
In a way, but its the first most people learn. In reality, we should learn the major scale first and the most thoroughly, because its the central nervous system of music. It contains pretty much everything already inside it already--all 7 modes, the pentatonic scale is just broken up pieces of it..everything is in the major scale
The book and DVD version do exactly that. Teaching the full diatonic (major w/ relative minor) scale first. The pentatonic comes later after a foundation for theory has been laid down. Thanks for writing.
music without theory? hmmmm well you just need to learn the basic thing that relates to music theory...but you dont need to know the music note...just refer to tabs
True, a lot of people don't know how to read traditional notation, but do understand the "nuts and bolts" of music theory. However, you can take a quick theory course, which includes learning notation, and you'll gain all of that insight in a very short time. Once you're done, the practical knowledge lasts a lifetime, even if you never use sight reading. On the other hand, learning "theory" by trial and error can take years.
u need some theory man. i took just a basic theory class and it opened up so much for me. if u want the complete pentatonics look up the 5 positions of the pentatonic.
Ya I suppose your right : ) I've been playing for 2 months and I've learned a bunch of songs but now it just feels like a tool for sound rather then a instrument so Ya I'm probably gonna learn that just so I can better appreciate my guitar : )
If your trying to convice me to check it out then you suck at commicating with other :P and useing 2 languages won't help that lol I'll look it up when I feel like it
can anyone tell me where to get like a dictionary or sumtin to learn what scales and notes and chords and everything else are???? plz it would be really helpful wat do u pros recomend plz let it be a specific book or tape or website
If I didn't already know the difference between major and minor pentatonics I would have found this video misleading, But your replies below make sense of it. Nice video of the 5 positions though. Thanks.
do you have music theory? Dude I can shred but I dont really know what im playing. What do you advise so that I can understand what im playing. Can yout tell me what im playing in my video? Im trying to write a new song and want to understand why im playing what im playing! Does that make sense?
I appreciate you playing with a metronome of sorts in the back ground. Its good to get people into the habit of following a rhythm like that. But, in fact your voice is difficult to hear. I had to turn my speakers way up to hear you speak compared to the last 10 youtube videos I have been listenting to at a normal volume. Your teaching is clear, but the audio needs work is all. It would put you a cut above the rest as far as Youtube learn to play guitar videos goes.
Thanks for writing. I can hear it with no problems on my PC. This sample is taken from one of our DVDs, and the DVD sounds clear in a PC, combo TV/DVD player, and surround sound.
Right i am new to the guitar and i haven't a clue what the difference is between one scale to the next andbody know where i can get some info on pentatonic scales
You are correct. The basic way to use the scale is with a song in the key of C. If you change to a song in the key of D, you move each scale position up (2 frets) to D.
If you move to the key of G, you can play G major or G major pentatonic. In many cases you can use G minor pentatonic over major chords. Let your ear decide what sounds best.
A quick rule for changing a major scale to major pentatonic: eliminate the 4th and 7th scale degree. Do this first with a key you are familiar with. For example, in C the 4th would be F, the 7th would be B. Instead of C-D-E-F-G-A-B, the major pentatonic is C-D-E--G-A--C.
Are you sure? Looks like 2nd degree is missing, and the 6th for the minor one. Yes, same notes as C maj Pent, I know, but "same thing works" isn't true, IMO.
The conversation is referring to relative minor keys. The relative minor to C is Am. When you change the C scale to pentatonic, the relative minor pentatonic is A minor, sharing the same notes.
Yeah. But major pentatonic misses 4th and 7th degrees of the scale.
Minor pentatonic misses the 2nd and 6th degrees of the "relative minor's" minor scale, right? Yes notes are the same 4 frets down, but all the degrees are different. % is in a different spot, as well as root. Anyway, thanks for the lesson/pics of the 5 positions.
The key of C major does not use any sharps or flats. When studying music theory, most methods start with the key of C. Naturally, when a new scale is introduced, it is in the key of C, then the scale formula is applied to other keys as the student advances. In the book Total Scales Techniques and Applications they Key of C is used first, then key changes are explained and TABed out starting around page 80.
Bravo on the G.P. review. We are putting up a bunch of new previews in April. This online thing won't replace one on one lessons but, it will help people that can't find a teacher , or a good one.
I really like you methodology, I have been doing research and you one of the only guys that have real teaching skills and talents!
Well thank you for such an uplifting compliment! I try to get the point across as quickly as possible. Nothing's worse than having a student that isn't making progress and having fun playing the guitar.
I haven't seen the Guitar Player review yet. I'll be looking for it.
i wouldn't play the major pentatonic scale like the way he shows because you want to slide the notes
DamonAlbarnFan 2 months ago
how do i uy a good gutar
mrfreddypaps 4 months ago
@mrfreddypaps a good guitar is one that feel nice to you! :D
Brentypooz 1 month ago
FINALLY someone who explains what a pentatonic scale is...not running directly into solos and stuff. Thank you!
RemusStelistu 6 months ago
Good Theory, except in the key of C major (Ionian), the A note is in fact the 6th scale degree (Aeolian) not the 5th (Mixolydian).
deeharmonic 8 months ago
@deeharmonic There are 5 notes in the Pentatonic scale, so it is referring to the positions, not the diatonic mode.
msternal 7 months ago 4
Great vid man! Just what I was looking for. Especially like how you have a picture of all 5 patterns side by side. Really helps.
kristobaldude 1 year ago
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I suck at pentatonic scale improvising . I was wondering if you guys have tried putting stickers with the tones on the fretboard from Ebay I think they're called fretnotes .Any advice ?
dragoneti67 1 year ago
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I suck at pentatonic scale improvising . I was wondering if you guys have tried putting stickers with the tones on the fretboard from Ebay I think they're called fretnotes .Any advice ?
dragoneti67 1 year ago
What the hell are you lot on about I know nothing of this yet I am a beginner and need help to understand what on earth is a scale?
gaupaenazul 1 year ago
@gaupaenazul Me too...
gham619 1 year ago
ha i have one of those sg's
johnny2x4x2 1 year ago
wow i dont even think you know how helpful this is for me, this opened so much more to my guitar playing
WayLandWay 1 year ago
hi..what is the first thing i should learn before proceed to pentatonic.?
supermernz 1 year ago
how do we use this pentatonic scales, for example if the other guitar is playin in Am we use Am pentatonic and if he change to F do we have to chande our pentatonic to F too???
ercspy 1 year ago
@ercspy No, Am pentatonic stills sounds nice over F. Think of Am pentatonic as a shorter version of the Am scale.
A-B-C-D-E-F-G-A
A----C-D-E----G-A
If the rhythm hangs on the F for a while, you can modulate and make a strong contrast by changing to F major or minor pentatonic. You can even switch up betwen A and F scales. It's all up to your creativity.
I have another YouTube video that might help, too. MJS Lead Guitar Lesson Using Scales & Modes with Chords.
msternal 1 year ago
Check out GUITAR DVD: Total Scales Techniques and Applications. Tons of info, 5 hours of lessons for $25. Or Easy Guitar Scales DVD for $12.
msternal 1 year ago
@msternal ...thanks a lot for answer my question ...im new in this things of pentatonic and trying to learn by myself, i play by ear. take care.
ercspy 1 year ago
I usually play your Total Scales and Applications Book on a daily basis, It's one of the best books in the market, Maybe the Best.
Question: How do you go about remembering to Play ever exercise in every position.
Do you just follow the Same Fingering as you move up and down the neck?
Or, By naming each Scale, Cycle of fourths, and Fifths. I find this part very tedious.
Wouldn't it be better by a finger approach system, Like in the Sal Salvador Scale Book.
roge69charger 1 year ago
@roge69charger Thanks. Once youre familiar with the positions in the book or DVD, then it is easier to apply it to the rest of the scale. For example, increments of 3 applied to each position. F-G-A/G-A-B/A-B-C, etc.
G-A-B/A-B-C/B-C-A, etc...
msternal 1 year ago
Thanks a lot for your advice, I hope you come out with another book, I read you're going to have a more advance book, I believe it was called, "Black Belt for the Guitarist" If I'm correct,
I also study 4 note Chord Scales in another book, But, Find it tedious, I forget some of the positions at times, I constantly repeat, and repeat.
I'll be purchasing your Chord System book too. Thanks a lot, Changed my Playing a lot, Instantly. Keep up the Great Work!
roge69charger 1 year ago
@roge69charger
This helps in a few ways. You get used to playing on the whole neck, you exercise your fingers while learning the techniques and applications that you will use when writing or improvising solos. The course progresses from easy to difficult. I recommend doing them in that order. After a while it becomes second nature.
msternal 1 year ago
i fung mai ru rung
Ckl3enz 1 year ago
Well ed098....
if you just have the potential 'bout listening...you would know...
Joebastida 1 year ago
@halb42 this helps but without seeing it it's hard to absorb. you don't know of any documentation explaining this do you? if so could you pm me? thanks again
ed0985587 2 years ago
@ed0985587 Total Scales Techniques and Applications Check it out at Guitar Center or Musicians Friend.
msternal 1 year ago
one question....when you are playing the scales it says you are playing in the "key of C" and all of the patterns are all the "A minor scale" but the patterns are moved all over. i thought if you moved them they become different scales. can you shed some light?
ed0985587 2 years ago
totally agree. do a really good job of explaining this. i understand the difference in the major and minor scales now.
ed0985587 2 years ago
Best discussion of pentatonic scales I've heard so far. Specifically, that those scales are the same as the natural major and minor scales, but with the 4th and 7th notes or "degrees" omitted. Very good way of teaching this, unlike most other instruction. I gave you 5 stars! Thanks!
Judplay 2 years ago
Sweet. Glad you like it. It definitely makes the learning and understanding easier when you see how it is all related.
msternal 2 years ago
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lawver90 2 years ago
So the intervals of the scale stay the same no matter what posistion your playing in?
myway43 2 years ago
Yes!
imrayok 2 years ago
Bonus section of the DVD.
msternal 2 years ago
thanks bro for the comment
nepaliboyg16 2 years ago
tell me what scale do?what is it necessary to learn?it's purpose?
nepaliboyg16 2 years ago
@nepaliboyg16
Its for improvising like solos with certain chords...You need to know what notes fit with other notes.
Ekkiejj 2 years ago
what other scales are there besides pentatonic?
MARCOJAVIERAGUILART 2 years ago
Chromatic is the most basic one.
MrGameposter 2 years ago
This is the only scale i know and i have been playing for about 3 years now, i do not have lessons i have never had lessons. is that bad that this is the only scale i know?
mrnailz360 2 years ago
yer sort of,sorry
Rossco602 2 years ago
I can play a good solo, and I could play loads of other scales, but this is the only one i have ever bothered to learn. I will practise the other now i know tho, thanks.
mrnailz360 2 years ago
EXTREMELY rofl....
TheWhocares233 2 years ago
no it aint bad dude if your mostly rock or metal, you can do alot with this scale just be creative with it till things click you'll know what sounds right and what dont, at least get really good at pentatonic before learning others you catch on better to other scales
kalvander 2 years ago 2
Thanks man
mrnailz360 2 years ago
If you are happy with that then no. If you are not happy with that then yes its bad. So got and learn the major scale and all modes within that scale now.
chillichomper 2 years ago
In a way, but its the first most people learn. In reality, we should learn the major scale first and the most thoroughly, because its the central nervous system of music. It contains pretty much everything already inside it already--all 7 modes, the pentatonic scale is just broken up pieces of it..everything is in the major scale
RNRDOLL 2 years ago
The book and DVD version do exactly that. Teaching the full diatonic (major w/ relative minor) scale first. The pentatonic comes later after a foundation for theory has been laid down. Thanks for writing.
msternal 2 years ago
music without theory? hmmmm well you just need to learn the basic thing that relates to music theory...but you dont need to know the music note...just refer to tabs
truth3110 2 years ago
True, a lot of people don't know how to read traditional notation, but do understand the "nuts and bolts" of music theory. However, you can take a quick theory course, which includes learning notation, and you'll gain all of that insight in a very short time. Once you're done, the practical knowledge lasts a lifetime, even if you never use sight reading. On the other hand, learning "theory" by trial and error can take years.
msternal 2 years ago
I got no time for this all I need is the list of the complete pentatonics scales..theory means nothing to me
DARKREGIS 2 years ago
Music without theory? Good luck. See how far that gets you.
msternal 2 years ago
You know alot of guitarists just play it by ear right?
It's the same with pianists (not sure If I spelled that right)
DARKREGIS 2 years ago
You'd be surprised how many of them know music theory. Music theory helps you play things by ear, just look into it.
LuckyNumberAce 2 years ago
for some guitar players it gets them pretty damn far, some people dont even know what pentatonics are but they can still play them
NinetyDeathsInHeaven 2 years ago
u need some theory man. i took just a basic theory class and it opened up so much for me. if u want the complete pentatonics look up the 5 positions of the pentatonic.
xlaz13x 2 years ago
Ya I suppose your right : ) I've been playing for 2 months and I've learned a bunch of songs but now it just feels like a tool for sound rather then a instrument so Ya I'm probably gonna learn that just so I can better appreciate my guitar : )
DARKREGIS 2 years ago
you suck bastard you play music without theory your so beginner...... ano ka henyo?? gawa ka sarili mo theory
wensty09 2 years ago
If your trying to convice me to check it out then you suck at commicating with other :P and useing 2 languages won't help that lol I'll look it up when I feel like it
DARKREGIS 2 years ago
superb video for me, love it!
added to favourites
5/5
julenissen52 2 years ago 2
can anyone tell me where to get like a dictionary or sumtin to learn what scales and notes and chords and everything else are???? plz it would be really helpful wat do u pros recomend plz let it be a specific book or tape or website
pimpbuster93 2 years ago 9
@pimpbuster93 Total Scales Techniques and Applications. Check it out at Guitar Center or Musicians Friend.
msternal 1 year ago
good video
007DV 2 years ago
GREAT!
ertmannb 2 years ago
If I didn't already know the difference between major and minor pentatonics I would have found this video misleading, But your replies below make sense of it. Nice video of the 5 positions though. Thanks.
davidarlette 3 years ago
do you have music theory? Dude I can shred but I dont really know what im playing. What do you advise so that I can understand what im playing. Can yout tell me what im playing in my video? Im trying to write a new song and want to understand why im playing what im playing! Does that make sense?
Fredmelott 3 years ago
u must be in a empty small room
i can hear better now?
thanks
i couldnt hear so much yesterday, my tv was on too? so ???
that and somebody talking. lol
hvacrdude1 3 years ago
can u turn up ur volume to not take away form the whole quality of the video? pls?
hvacrdude1 3 years ago
It is loud and clear on my PC
msternal 3 years ago
I appreciate you playing with a metronome of sorts in the back ground. Its good to get people into the habit of following a rhythm like that. But, in fact your voice is difficult to hear. I had to turn my speakers way up to hear you speak compared to the last 10 youtube videos I have been listenting to at a normal volume. Your teaching is clear, but the audio needs work is all. It would put you a cut above the rest as far as Youtube learn to play guitar videos goes.
Smitchell1000 2 years ago 2
Thanks for writing. I can hear it with no problems on my PC. This sample is taken from one of our DVDs, and the DVD sounds clear in a PC, combo TV/DVD player, and surround sound.
msternal 2 years ago
Right i am new to the guitar and i haven't a clue what the difference is between one scale to the next andbody know where i can get some info on pentatonic scales
howislifewithu 3 years ago
What guitar are you using?
drummer92 3 years ago
That's a Gibson SG Standard with the traditional Heritage Cherry finish. Plays like a dream!
msternal 3 years ago
that mean we can only use this 5 position pentatonic scale in on the key of C of a song?
Then,
how if a song is in key of D?
we need to use pentatonic D scale for that?
Augustua 3 years ago
You are correct. The basic way to use the scale is with a song in the key of C. If you change to a song in the key of D, you move each scale position up (2 frets) to D.
msternal 3 years ago
If you move to the key of G, you can play G major or G major pentatonic. In many cases you can use G minor pentatonic over major chords. Let your ear decide what sounds best.
A quick rule for changing a major scale to major pentatonic: eliminate the 4th and 7th scale degree. Do this first with a key you are familiar with. For example, in C the 4th would be F, the 7th would be B. Instead of C-D-E-F-G-A-B, the major pentatonic is C-D-E--G-A--C.
msternal 3 years ago
Yes, C major pentatonic and A minor pentatonic use the same notes. It is your focus that determines major or minor.
The natural notes C to C make a C major scale.
C-D-E-F-G-A-B-C
The natural notes A to A make an A minor scale.
A-B-C-D-E-F-G
C major and A minor share the same notes, they are Relative Keys.
Key of C Major C D E F G A B C
Key of A Minor A B C D E F G A
Relative Keys C D E F G A B C D E F G A B C
msternal 3 years ago
The Pentatonic scale is the same as the C scale less the 4th and 7th interval (or scale degree).
Major Scale C D E F G A B C
Major Pentatonic C D E G A C
This works the same with the minor scale.
Minor Scale A B C D E F G A
Minor Pentatonic A C D E G A
Let me know if this helps. I'm always happy to be of service.
Mark
msternal 3 years ago
This works the same with the minor scale.
Minor Scale A B C D E F G A
Minor Pentatonic A C D E G A...
Are you sure? Looks like 2nd degree is missing, and the 6th for the minor one. Yes, same notes as C maj Pent, I know, but "same thing works" isn't true, IMO.
davidarlette 3 years ago
The conversation is referring to relative minor keys. The relative minor to C is Am. When you change the C scale to pentatonic, the relative minor pentatonic is A minor, sharing the same notes.
msternal 3 years ago
Yeah. But major pentatonic misses 4th and 7th degrees of the scale.
Minor pentatonic misses the 2nd and 6th degrees of the "relative minor's" minor scale, right? Yes notes are the same 4 frets down, but all the degrees are different. % is in a different spot, as well as root. Anyway, thanks for the lesson/pics of the 5 positions.
davidarlette 3 years ago
why are the scales in the book always in the key of c
customfenders 3 years ago 8
The key of C major does not use any sharps or flats. When studying music theory, most methods start with the key of C. Naturally, when a new scale is introduced, it is in the key of C, then the scale formula is applied to other keys as the student advances. In the book Total Scales Techniques and Applications they Key of C is used first, then key changes are explained and TABed out starting around page 80.
msternal 3 years ago
cause is the easiest? =S
mnunezper 3 years ago
@customfenders
Easiest to think about first. No flats or sharps
toadexleen 1 year ago
@customfenders you can just move them...
LedKenji666 1 year ago
@customfenders because c is always your starting point
Germannazigirl2207 1 year ago
@customfenders No flats no sharps and on the piano it's all the white keys. Makes things easier.
friskyisfat 1 year ago
@customfenders becuase if you play it on a piano its all white keys.
gromshit101 1 year ago
Bravo on the G.P. review. We are putting up a bunch of new previews in April. This online thing won't replace one on one lessons but, it will help people that can't find a teacher , or a good one.
I really like you methodology, I have been doing research and you one of the only guys that have real teaching skills and talents!
teacherofrockstars 4 years ago 3
Well thank you for such an uplifting compliment! I try to get the point across as quickly as possible. Nothing's worse than having a student that isn't making progress and having fun playing the guitar.
I haven't seen the Guitar Player review yet. I'll be looking for it.
msternal 4 years ago
Did you see a review in Guitar Player (GP) or Premier Guitar (PG)?
msternal 4 years ago
Bravo! Now this guy is what I call a teacher!!!!
teacherofrockstars 4 years ago 3
Too, cool! Thanks for commenting. Nice Dean in your video.
msternal 4 years ago