We already knew this. At least those like me that played and loved JRPG's in the past had to accept that the Japanese game industry in general was struggling the entire generation. There is Tales Of Graces coming (if successful will follow up with Xillia) and the overdue Xenoblade.
I still want another Valkyrie Profile, Chrono, HD Xeno ect or a fresh new IP altogether. What are the chances they fix their JRPG machine by the time the generation ends? Possibly not likely.
Square-Enix was a bad move for gamers a good one for the corporation. Enix was the only well-known corporation to be a direct competitor of Square Co. so who gonna make Square-Enix improve their games a bit more ?!?
What about JRPG that are not from Squarenix? Demons souls & Darks souls are highly acclaimed by all the critics, dunno how they hold up sales wise, still they are good, but not meant for casuals or mainstream console audience. I guess every dev has his golden days, but now it's up to some new Japanese studios to re injected some life in JRPGs, brand new games not HD ports of great old games, rethink the whole formula and revolutionize it.
I am done with jrps on consoles. All they are these days are over hyped CGI cut scenes with retarded stories, the gameplay is completely worthless. At least with the iphone I can relive the glory days.
I think the JRPG lineup in 2012 is one of the strongest this generation. But you are absolutely right. There were VERY FEW good JRPGs for consoles. Lost Odyssey, Tales of Vesperia, and Resonance of Fate were my personal favorites (I don't count Valkyria Chronicles as an RPG). The rest were so-so. Handheld gaming was the way to go in terms of JRPGs this generation.
Man I guess growing up not being obsessed with Japanese games made this generation one of the best for me. Honestly I don't see why people hate this generation so much.
Read an article this morning, I think on Destructoid, where a bunch of Square Enix developers were asked what their favorite game of 2011 was and all but one of them said Skyrim XD
Finally someone else who isn't completely insane and realizes that the JRPG genre has gotten stagnant and has been heading into the wrong direction for years.
@BLACKB0ND Ni No Kuni is the jrpg i'm most looking forward to right now. just because square's console rpgs are bad nowadays doesn't mean jrpgs as a whole are dead. Plus Kingdom Hearts Dream Drop Distance looks like a solid game and it's made in part by square...
I've always been a hardcore FF fan. I've played and beat them all regardless of the quality of the game but none the less I remain a serious critic. SE with their FF series have flown in a way i'm not grasping. Like they've had their odd projects now and again with Crisis Core and Dirge, along with Crystal Chronicals and Tactics Advanced, imo those games were just awfull and they need to start working with passion instead of money. I know it's been awhile and they're still workin on FFXI and XIV
@Balmung077 the two online games so that's probably where some of their time and effort has gone. But i'm with you Bond, they really need to step it up because the last few releases have been a bit ridiculous.
I'm having a blast with Persona 4. There are still good JRPGs on handhelds, and the ones on consoles aren't all that bad either. It's not as good as it used to be, but JRPGs are still good.
The bullshit started with FFX, made by the crappy team who also made FFXIII. The other teams making FF Type Zero and FFXIII Versus, so im expecting those games to be better
JRPGs now are falling so far down the Grand Canyon, it's ridiculous. The only great ones this gen I can think of are Valkyria Chronicles, Lost Odyssey, Radiant Historia, Xenoblade, Tales of Vesperia, and Crisis Core. Not to mention there's a lot of other JRPG franchises that could have sequels. Where's Skies of Arcadia 2? Grandia 4? Panzer Dragoon Saga 2? Another Secret of Mana game?
As a Final Fantasy fan I used to look forward to FF until XI, XII, XIII, XIII-2 and XIV. The series has nothing more to offer. Medicore story, same copy and paste characters/personalities, gameplay has been reduced into a interactive movie. The last good rpg I played was Lost Odyssey, in that was in 08
JRPGS where awesome now the xbox crowd is around and shooters are the only thing they want to play Japanese sometimes with their franchises try to "cater to western audiences" I live in the UK and I am 20 years old and Square... you were already doing that with your awesome older titles you don't need to change because the most popular game out now is a linear scripted corridor shooter come on guys fix up!
@HeshamUchia It is not the xbox crowd..........the japanese catering to western audiences is bs, if they did that they wouldn't release their jrpgs on handhelds only, and would focus on pc/console releases. It has nothing to do with "scripted corridors". If it did, skyrim wouldn't be as popular as it is today.
@RevJesseJackson Skyrim is one game, that had a crap ton of marketing put behind it. That and the game is heavily stream lined compared to its predecessors most notably Morrowind.
@HeshamUchia That does not explain japanese not focusing on what westerners care about...pc/console releases. consoles are the major market for the west, pc being secondary in software, and outside of mario kart, pokemon, and the misc mario and zelda game on handhelds handhelds are the tertiary market to the west. Look at monster hunter. They bitch about it not selling, but there's no marketing behind it until it changed publisher. They won't even bring the monster hunter mmo to pc.
@2WIREG Same. Crisis Core is the only final fantasy game i liked this gen. Well besides dissidia 012 but i find that to be more of a fighter. God bless handhelds.
If they made a new kingdom hearts to get them back on track that would be good. They need to go back to turnbased /open world and get away from the garbage hallway of quiktime
I'm 16 years old, and my first rpg was Final Fantasy VII back when I was in 1st grade. I can not believe I have more rpgs experience than these middle ages people. I tell people all time that Square is bullshit now, they don't care about their hardcore fans. But yet we still have dickheads, aka FF stans that don't want to hear what I'm saying. But whatever I'm sticking with the Tales series, can't wait for Tales of Graces March 13th!!!!!!
And Devil Survivor Overclocked was pretty damn good too. This year has Xenoblade (US), Tales of Xillia, and Devil Survivor 2 on deck early this year. I'm excited...
There are a ton of JRPGs and SRPGs across all of the systems. The trick is actually buying them and playing them....that's your problem. The bigger problem is unless it is an established franchise like Pokemon, FF, or DQ, even the best JRPG won't sell worth a shit anymore. Lost Odyssey, Blue Dragon, Resonance of Fate, Eternal Sonata, Last Remnant, Infinite Undiscovery are all solid games, in my opinion. But Trails in the Sky and Radiant Historia were good this year.
Agreed. I remember being severely disappointed last gen when I paid 100€ for both Kingdom Hearts 2 and Final Fantasy XII, only to find out they both sucked horribly. It went downhill from there. :(
Support Monolith and forget about Square Enix. I just wish Nintendo would take more interest in Monolith jrpgs. Xenoblade is one of the best jrpgs i ever played, probably on par with FF7.
Still as a whole there are glaring problems within this genre that either need to be changed or refined. There was a time when the best games on the market were JRPGs. Hell I'm looking at close to 50 of them on my shelf right now for PS1. But those days are over.
Is that Golden sun music?
darbydude12 1 month ago
@darbydude12
Saturous & Menardi theme
BLACKB0ND 2 weeks ago
XIII-2 seems to have refined gameplay but story is still shit
TheDavyman 1 month ago
Having played the FFXIII-2 Demo last night.. Wow I cannot wait for your follow-up video to this. What the fuck did I just play.
Balmung077 1 month ago
my first rpg was either pokemon or Super mario rpg i can't remember
FinalKill333 1 month ago
@FinalKill333 marios a platformer not an rpg
whosplayingyou29 13 hours ago
THE ds the ds! hahaha yeah right
bobbyw223 1 month ago
We already knew this. At least those like me that played and loved JRPG's in the past had to accept that the Japanese game industry in general was struggling the entire generation. There is Tales Of Graces coming (if successful will follow up with Xillia) and the overdue Xenoblade.
I still want another Valkyrie Profile, Chrono, HD Xeno ect or a fresh new IP altogether. What are the chances they fix their JRPG machine by the time the generation ends? Possibly not likely.
FailedEXE 1 month ago
FF13 sucks ass. In fact IX was the last good FF game.
owensoft 1 month ago
Square-Enix was a bad move for gamers a good one for the corporation. Enix was the only well-known corporation to be a direct competitor of Square Co. so who gonna make Square-Enix improve their games a bit more ?!?
TheKrytopsy 1 month ago
What about JRPG that are not from Squarenix? Demons souls & Darks souls are highly acclaimed by all the critics, dunno how they hold up sales wise, still they are good, but not meant for casuals or mainstream console audience. I guess every dev has his golden days, but now it's up to some new Japanese studios to re injected some life in JRPGs, brand new games not HD ports of great old games, rethink the whole formula and revolutionize it.
Frencho9 1 month ago
People are practically throwing money at se and they still won't remake ff7
gatsu08106 1 month ago
Im hoping that square changes.
xNintaku 1 month ago
I am done with jrps on consoles. All they are these days are over hyped CGI cut scenes with retarded stories, the gameplay is completely worthless. At least with the iphone I can relive the glory days.
AZZAJ12 1 month ago
I think the JRPG lineup in 2012 is one of the strongest this generation. But you are absolutely right. There were VERY FEW good JRPGs for consoles. Lost Odyssey, Tales of Vesperia, and Resonance of Fate were my personal favorites (I don't count Valkyria Chronicles as an RPG). The rest were so-so. Handheld gaming was the way to go in terms of JRPGs this generation.
DLTDawnlight 1 month ago
Man I guess growing up not being obsessed with Japanese games made this generation one of the best for me. Honestly I don't see why people hate this generation so much.
SamuelTehGTA 1 month ago
Read an article this morning, I think on Destructoid, where a bunch of Square Enix developers were asked what their favorite game of 2011 was and all but one of them said Skyrim XD
the7thlevl 1 month ago
@BLACKB0ND
FF is for queers deal with it.
123sny 1 month ago
Only Square-Enix games I still fuck with is the Kingdom Hearts series. Nomura always knows what he's doing. KH 3D looks awesome
mygamecube2 1 month ago
Most of the JRPG I've been playing are damn remakes, I want new shit damn it!
CagedTurkey 1 month ago
Finally someone else who isn't completely insane and realizes that the JRPG genre has gotten stagnant and has been heading into the wrong direction for years.
shakmaster99 1 month ago
Diggin the Golden Sun music, now that's a true JRPG
TheDavyman 1 month ago
you obvoiusly havent played some of its handheld rpgs.
gamereviewsss 1 month ago
@gamereviewsss
You obviously haven't seen my comment to micahman3000
BLACKB0ND 1 month ago
@BLACKB0ND why the hell would i look at a reply you made to some dude :P
gamereviewsss 1 month ago
Bravely default looks pretty awesome to me. it's not called Final fantasy, but hell, i'll take it.
jimmyelgringito 1 month ago
@BLACKB0ND Ni No Kuni is the jrpg i'm most looking forward to right now. just because square's console rpgs are bad nowadays doesn't mean jrpgs as a whole are dead. Plus Kingdom Hearts Dream Drop Distance looks like a solid game and it's made in part by square...
Permafry42 1 month ago
I've always been a hardcore FF fan. I've played and beat them all regardless of the quality of the game but none the less I remain a serious critic. SE with their FF series have flown in a way i'm not grasping. Like they've had their odd projects now and again with Crisis Core and Dirge, along with Crystal Chronicals and Tactics Advanced, imo those games were just awfull and they need to start working with passion instead of money. I know it's been awhile and they're still workin on FFXI and XIV
Balmung077 1 month ago
@Balmung077 the two online games so that's probably where some of their time and effort has gone. But i'm with you Bond, they really need to step it up because the last few releases have been a bit ridiculous.
Balmung077 1 month ago
I'm having a blast with Persona 4. There are still good JRPGs on handhelds, and the ones on consoles aren't all that bad either. It's not as good as it used to be, but JRPGs are still good.
Majadamus 1 month ago
Golden Sun music?
TheTonyPainstation 1 month ago
They need to quit it with the fucking side games like Dissidia I'm reeeallly losing track. I'm just looking at the main series now.
MetalGearSteel 1 month ago
Well we'll have to wait and see how FFvs13 turns out
Drenn23 1 month ago
its sad because i use to love rpgs. now its just smh. need to bring the classic style back
BroKenGaMezHD 1 month ago
The bullshit started with FFX, made by the crappy team who also made FFXIII. The other teams making FF Type Zero and FFXIII Versus, so im expecting those games to be better
JenovaDoll 1 month ago
JRPGs now are falling so far down the Grand Canyon, it's ridiculous. The only great ones this gen I can think of are Valkyria Chronicles, Lost Odyssey, Radiant Historia, Xenoblade, Tales of Vesperia, and Crisis Core. Not to mention there's a lot of other JRPG franchises that could have sequels. Where's Skies of Arcadia 2? Grandia 4? Panzer Dragoon Saga 2? Another Secret of Mana game?
THEKING1300 1 month ago
@SummDuDe209 wow I wouldnt av noticed if I hadnt read ur comment! The Djinn in tht game are cool
pug307wayne 1 month ago
cant wait for the vid man.Please just post it to youtube and not ustream.
SEGAman4 1 month ago
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As a Final Fantasy fan I used to look forward to FF until XI, XII, XIII, XIII-2 and XIV. The series has nothing more to offer. Medicore story, same copy and paste characters/personalities, gameplay has been reduced into a interactive movie. The last good rpg I played was Lost Odyssey, in that was in 08
EmptyRevolvers 1 month ago
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EmptyRevolvers 1 month ago
Golden Sun music
SummDuDe2o9 1 month ago
I can't fucking wait. Especially if it means you'll discuss FFXIII.
xalimech 1 month ago
JRPGS where awesome now the xbox crowd is around and shooters are the only thing they want to play Japanese sometimes with their franchises try to "cater to western audiences" I live in the UK and I am 20 years old and Square... you were already doing that with your awesome older titles you don't need to change because the most popular game out now is a linear scripted corridor shooter come on guys fix up!
HeshamUchia 1 month ago
@HeshamUchia It is not the xbox crowd..........the japanese catering to western audiences is bs, if they did that they wouldn't release their jrpgs on handhelds only, and would focus on pc/console releases. It has nothing to do with "scripted corridors". If it did, skyrim wouldn't be as popular as it is today.
RevJesseJackson 1 month ago
@RevJesseJackson Skyrim is one game, that had a crap ton of marketing put behind it. That and the game is heavily stream lined compared to its predecessors most notably Morrowind.
HeshamUchia 1 month ago
@HeshamUchia That does not explain japanese not focusing on what westerners care about...pc/console releases. consoles are the major market for the west, pc being secondary in software, and outside of mario kart, pokemon, and the misc mario and zelda game on handhelds handhelds are the tertiary market to the west. Look at monster hunter. They bitch about it not selling, but there's no marketing behind it until it changed publisher. They won't even bring the monster hunter mmo to pc.
RevJesseJackson 1 month ago
can't wait
kihffd 1 month ago
Damn can't wait for this video.
That1Guy2Remember 1 month ago
The last good game square made that I enjoyed from start to finish was Crisis core.
2WIREG 1 month ago
@2WIREG Same. Crisis Core is the only final fantasy game i liked this gen. Well besides dissidia 012 but i find that to be more of a fighter. God bless handhelds.
SONYandMICROSOFT 1 month ago
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TheJumpman319 1 month ago
If they made a new kingdom hearts to get them back on track that would be good. They need to go back to turnbased /open world and get away from the garbage hallway of quiktime
GamerRamon 1 month ago
Make a video about the Vita Japn Flop
ToxicAvenger7 1 month ago
Square Enix & Final Fantasy are dead...
TheCreed20 1 month ago
Thank you blackbond make the vid.I remember when FF was a RPG to be proud of now i just don't know
TheOJof360 1 month ago
I'm 16 years old, and my first rpg was Final Fantasy VII back when I was in 1st grade. I can not believe I have more rpgs experience than these middle ages people. I tell people all time that Square is bullshit now, they don't care about their hardcore fans. But yet we still have dickheads, aka FF stans that don't want to hear what I'm saying. But whatever I'm sticking with the Tales series, can't wait for Tales of Graces March 13th!!!!!!
MrJalenjones 1 month ago 12
And Devil Survivor Overclocked was pretty damn good too. This year has Xenoblade (US), Tales of Xillia, and Devil Survivor 2 on deck early this year. I'm excited...
micahman3000 1 month ago
There are a ton of JRPGs and SRPGs across all of the systems. The trick is actually buying them and playing them....that's your problem. The bigger problem is unless it is an established franchise like Pokemon, FF, or DQ, even the best JRPG won't sell worth a shit anymore. Lost Odyssey, Blue Dragon, Resonance of Fate, Eternal Sonata, Last Remnant, Infinite Undiscovery are all solid games, in my opinion. But Trails in the Sky and Radiant Historia were good this year.
micahman3000 1 month ago
@micahman3000
Or putting them on HOME platforms
BLACKB0ND 1 month ago
Demon's/Dark Souls are the best JRPGs
SmokinSNYP3R 1 month ago
Agreed. I remember being severely disappointed last gen when I paid 100€ for both Kingdom Hearts 2 and Final Fantasy XII, only to find out they both sucked horribly. It went downhill from there. :(
Vicsor 1 month ago
well... at least we still have call of duty!
xDILF 1 month ago
the only relevent game square made in the past year was Deus Ex
Pzer089 1 month ago
@Pzer089
I don't give them any credit for simply buying into Eidos's work
BLACKB0ND 1 month ago 10
@BLACKB0ND
SquareEnix like using the "license shield." lol
DLTDawnlight 1 month ago
Golden Sun FTW! JRPGs were the bomb back in the day!
hawkssuns08 1 month ago
@hawkssuns08 golden sun dark dawn for the loss...
16BitJunkie 1 month ago
make a 1 hour long video!
Montag1992 1 month ago
I think resonance of fate was a good jrpg
Emmett1991 1 month ago
DAT GOLDEN SUN MUSIC, SON! (Sorry for caps, looking forward to that video.)
DJ4Miggy 1 month ago
Some fucking nerds are still hoping and 13-2 and versus will be good lmao. They need to fucking realize that final fantasy died a long time ago.
SONYandMICROSOFT 1 month ago
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MrJalenjones 1 month ago
I'm looking forward to it cause I to agree w/ you SE fucking up that series.
MasterOssy 1 month ago
Support Monolith and forget about Square Enix. I just wish Nintendo would take more interest in Monolith jrpgs. Xenoblade is one of the best jrpgs i ever played, probably on par with FF7.
keroncoward 1 month ago
whats wrong with the tales of games, eternal sonatta and valkyrie chronicles ? Or is this more like a square enix thing?
2theoldschool 1 month ago
@2theoldschool
Valkyria Chronicles went handheld.
Tales series don't come over to often from Japan.
Still as a whole there are glaring problems within this genre that either need to be changed or refined. There was a time when the best games on the market were JRPGs. Hell I'm looking at close to 50 of them on my shelf right now for PS1. But those days are over.
BLACKB0ND 1 month ago 2
@BLACKB0ND i agree with that i guess, lookin forward to this vid and all dem mad FF fanboys who will cry over 13-2
2theoldschool 1 month ago
I like all of the FF releases. This is just an opinionated thing I guess.
SuperiorLarxene 1 month ago
cant wait for that video lol
TheGREYGHOST1992 1 month ago
Someone disliked this already lol, FF looks like it will be dead if Versus is no good either, unless the drones are enough to keep it alive.
MasterBrutaka 1 month ago
...>_>. Explain please.
NewZen41 1 month ago