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  • Apple rules go MacBook btw denis36772 hp sux

  • macs r the worst computer ever{there r not 4 gameing at all ! HP Pavillion 4 lyf.

  • @Gilden00 I do not have an iPhone, and I now know I never will. Apple does not respect my liberty. Screw them.

  • I hate closed source vendor lock-ins, no matter who it is. Apple does not respect my intelligence or my liberty. Buying a Mac is tyranny in my opinion. I am consistent. I hate both Apple and Microsoft because they are both jerks. Apple II was great. When Apple ditched the II, they were never the same again. I use a PC. I don't like it, I just put up with it. I also use Linux. It is not great, either. I struggle to config thigns, but when I solve things, I feel great.

  • pc is the original and the best.. thumbs up for supporters

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  • @Gilden00 Sorry, but then you bought no pc but some shit. I have a 10 year old computer a t home, that still works and i never had to spend money for it. I also have a 5 year old pc where barely had problems and a 4 year old notebook (windows) form a company that dont even exist anymore and it still works like on the first day. Sure i am a bit of an apple hater, but i would tell the truth if they really would be better. Fact: pc is way cheaper with better components ad you can replace them

  • I can get a pc for $700.00 and it has about 4 gb of RAM and a 400 gb hard drive. When you say they get viruses you know you are talking about Windows XP. Windows 7 is so easy to use. The mac is a disgrace on a computer.

  • The only reason to be "loyal to a company" usually involves a paycheck going your way over a period of at least 10 years.

  • better quality virus free better u.i ,guess im a fanboy 2

  • who's this tool?

  • How much punishment can the ipad take my ipod touch can take some punishment

  • I dont know why folks hate Apple thief products are so pleasent to use

  • this guy is a role modle! rock on!!!!!!!!!!!

  • macs have the worst mouse ever

  • @94JEDoucette I would, just because I like apple and their costumer service, overall I just have a better experience with apple. I like iLife and all that stuff. But I do agree with you that their stuff is overpriced. Most people would just go with the PC. :P

  • @94JEDoucette The Mac

  • Is this Steve-o?

  • haha specs arent every thing guys. apple products are much faster and stay faster. they also feel smoother and the response is superior. other stuff gets slower in time like shitty windows. i've had windows all my life along with many different computers. its the same story, the shit all lags up and problems occur. finally i get an apple mac book pro and now i will never go back to windows. apple for life.

  • @sportsman6171 how are they faster? raw power goes to the pc sorry but it does

  • @steven4570 i answered that in the post you replied to...... and no, the pc might technically be faster in terms of specs, however, the integration between the mac hardware and mac software is much more solid then the microsoft counter point. it makes it work better, faster and more efficiently. it also makes the software much more stable. i am yet to have anything crash on my mac. ive had it for 2 years and it has so much shit on there its a miracle it doesnt explode haha mac = long term speed

  • @sportsman6171 final cut pro is REALLY slow on macs, the render times are really bad they dont optimize it for the hardware that its on. but macs do crash and they do have problems, check out the mac forums its all there

  • @steven4570 not mine.... or any of my friends that have one. and all that u said is false, it does all of that. obviously you havent used a mac book pro. i dont even think u read my reply because all of what you said the mac doesnt do, i said it does do in my reply........

  • @sportsman6171 then you havent used or they havent either used programs like cs5 and vegas on a high end pc. ive worked with final cut on the mac and its SLOW, not the most efficient program out there. and what does it do? explain, i only wanted to know how they were faster that post doesnt really explain it

  • @steven4570 yes it does..... i said because the mac's software and hardware work much better together. the hard ware is made so that programs like OS work on it. microsoft's hard ware is just that. its made to be very fast but not made to be used with different programs. apples products will retain their speed for much longer periods of time.

  • @sportsman6171 well if thats true lets do a video of us rendering a 3min HD video and see which on is done first...i think youre thinking in terms of compatibility. if you have and expensive pc like an expensive mac its just as good and most of the time better and faster. i mean anyone whos used vegas's rendering will tell you its more optimized than final cut is on the mac

  • This kid really believes he has a hit tv show on youtube. He just cannot stop making these videos.

  • @Cynice49 thats pretty much like saying windows 98 is the same thing as os x snow leopard!!!!

  • @Cynice49 thats pretty much like saying windows 98 is the same thing as os x snow leopard

  • wtf??? Imovie and windows movie maker the same? That has to be a joke!?!?

  • 600th

  • Some people say something like that to Linux also.

    All love all OSes.

  • @94JEDoucette 600 more bucks is better because u get a better computer!! pc sucks like crap!!!

  • @SuperRaptorfreak Do you have any proof, experience, or any kind of reasoning to back up your... Erm... "Argument"?

  • the mac is better because even if your paying a little more, it's well worth the investment in the end!!

  • @94JEDoucette lol if you want to carry around a brick with crappy battery life then the cheap one from ibuypower.

  • @94JEDoucette The Mac...

  • @94JEDoucette the better deal would be the macbook pro no challenges with that one!

  • @thecreativeone in the beginning yes the should not use f-bombs! I am 15 yrs old and stopped viewing your comments cause of them!

  • Macs are friken awesome, but sometimes they piss me off. Thats why you run windows on em with parallel. But yeah there still way over priced but it's still worth it,

  • Well I wasn't ready for that. A lot of swearing and aggression. I guess it was provoked.

  • @94JEDoucette the macbookpro, obviously.

  • If you have enough time on your hands that you have thought out a argument, good or not, and posted more than one seven minute long video on youtube, it better be your fucking job. If it isn't, you need to get a girlfriend, or get some different hobbies.

  • What the fuck is this fucking mother fuck shit fuck fuck what? Fuck! Huh? 14-15-16 are the average people to swear.

  • @94JEDoucette 10 years from now.. When the Mac is still useable and the PC is outdated beyond upgradeable... Let me know. And I'm speaking from past experience here. My 8 year old iMac g4 which still works great and my dead sitting in the closet 8 year old Dell Dimension 8100. The choice is yours.

  • @pokemondude121 thats why you build your own, and if you still are using an 8 year old computer you eithier A dont need the power because you dont do anything that would require it or B youre just plain stupid

  • @steven4570 or C it has plenty of power because it's upgraded and I can't afford a new Computer? What are you just another PC fanboy? Believe me I've dealt with people like you before... Nothing but a bunch of babbling and no facts whatsoever. Go find somebody else to annoy.

  • @pokemondude121 an 8year old machine its ussaly passed its prime, diffrent platform or chipsets, 8 years ago penitum 4 2ghx on ddr ram?  its ok if cant afford it but dont be saying that a mac will be good and powerful in a 8 years and the pc wont because its out dated, thats just stupid

  • @steven4570 I never said that the Mac would still be considered powerful in 8 years. (Mine definitely isn't considered powerful) But I've never... in my life... seen a PC that's eight years old.. still be useable to a point where people still use them as their Main computer.

  • @pokemondude121 well of course, i wouldnt use ANY computer thats 8 years old unless i REALLY HAD TO, my 2004 hp still runs fine, but since i built a new one thers not point in using it

  • @steven4570 Yeah it runs fine.. but can it still browse the internet? Stream video and music without choppyness/lagging? It should still be able to if it's only 6 years old.

  • @pokemondude121 yes internet is not a problem, why would it be? yes since it has a dedicated graphics card and not intergrated graphics yes and can stream video and music with no lag, it was a 1500 comptuer back in nov of 2004

  • @steven4570 What does it have for a processor and ram?

  • @pokemondude121 penitum 4 3.2ghz prescott, 1gb of DDR 300mhz ram but i upgraded to 2gb the last year i used it

  • @steven4570 Yeah.. not bad for a 2004 computer.

  • @pokemondude121 nope, i mean as long as you dont have a really cheap comptuer, and take care of it it will last a long time, and unless you have to use a old comptuers i ussaly get a new one every 5 years or so

  • @steven4570 Yup. Totally. Just becAuse a computer is old doesn't mean their bad. And every 5 years sounds like a good ratio for new computers. In fact I'm currently trying to get another computer.

  • @pokemondude121 yep doesnt mean its bad it just may be outdated for what i use it for which is heavy gaming and using the adobe suite, which the power is needed for those things

  • @steven4570 My computer would crap itself it I tried to do that with it.

  • @steven4570 Besides Mac isn't the greatest for gaming anyway... they'll play games unlike what some people believe but there's slightly less selection than PC. ... -_-

  • @pokemondude121 theyll play games just not at the highest settings like hardcore pcs will

  • @pokemondude121 I still use my old Dell from 2001 for internet, word processing, and file storage. It doesn't do most games, but I haven't done a lot of PC gaming in a long time as it is and it does those things extremely well. (just to note, my "gaming" machine is my laptop, and it's only about 3 years old)

    And hell, my parents still have their old Tandy and it still works. That was back when we were considered rich because we had a hd put into it (8mb, wooo!)

  • @grabarc Right. Does it still play flash without any slow down? Can it play youtube videos? And are we talking the computer's original parts or has it been upgraded 6 times?

  • @pokemondude121 Should really check my inbox more than once a year, heh.

    The old dell can still do the flash and non-HD Youtube videos, but not so much the java and flash games anymore. The only upgrade it's gotten was a video card upgrade and a Ram upgrade in about 04

  • OMG MoldyToastervideos account is suspended 0.0

  • People should stop arguing about Mac OS X and Windows because they each have their own flaws and Good features.

  • I think it's lame to hate a rival product like Apple or Microsoft. I think it's more of a personal preference or opinion from past experience. I prefer macs because I've had a bad experience with Windows, but that's just my experience. Don't hate on a product you've never used. I bet there are people that hate macs because they may have had a bad experience and that's fine. Why does everyone need to hate on everyone's personal opinions/experiences?

  • F*** You

    Windows ROCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • i totally agree man, my reward for the worst arguments goes to the windows users. 50% of their comments are like "fuck macs", sometimes like "macs are for dumb people who dont know how to use windows" and such. I can even see someone called "wehatemacs" commenting here. "And yes, continue making debate video's, you've got a good opinion about these topics.

  • @ElliotsMedia however, that assumes that I care what people think. It is part of the reason that I say what I want.

    I am indeed serious that my self control is justified, you will notice that in this conversation I haven't 'cursed' that much I have in fact exchanged a valid point of view without it.

    However, I do reserve my right to swear whenever and however I like. This is how I justify my self control.

    I don't quite understand how dignity enters into the debate, and 'hurtful' is relative.

  • @ElliotsMedia Sorry, did you misunderstand the concept of a social construct and it not being my problem if people get offended? it's their problem. What I am saying is it's the parents job to moderate their kids behaviour, not mine. I shouldn't have to not say what I want because of the possibility of kids being around, kids are all over the place, horrible little turds. It is my choice and not anyone else's how I act, how I talk and my outlook on the world. and so my self control is justified.

  • @ElliotsMedia maybe their parents should police their internet usage if they care. And also, if young people have good parents they know what words to say and what not to say. That is in fact the reason that I don't go around swearing at people in the street, it's called self control. However, I see the internet as not applying to the social norms usually linked to normal conversation. especially when it comes to comment sections or forums. Furthermore I would go as far as to say that at the...

  • core of it, the social norms I am talking about are in fact part of the greater social construct that we have assembled over thousands of years. The fact that people are offended by swearing isn't actually something you can call good or bad. it's neutral like every other word. it's just a word that we made up to describe something else that we made up or naturally do.

    I dont see it as a problem and I don't think telling people how to speak is something you can do short of spelling and grammar

  • FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK...lolz. its just a word dude...don't have a period.

  • @94JEDoucette The most important thing is more memory right? And your right its the same thing as an ipod, but bigger

  • @94JEDoucette Oh yeah so amazing! W00t im not using the mouse!

  • @94JEDoucette unless u count ipad's and stuff... But ipads are a waste why buy a 16 gig when u can buy a 350 gig laptop!

  • @94JEDoucette Very true, but Linux isn't very popular. I guess its still kinda known, but not very

  • @94JEDoucette Mac's are fine for working but without Microsoft they wouldn't give Mac all those word, powerpoint ( I don't think anybody would make something like this ), excell and stuff you know

  • @94JEDoucette i know u were talkign about pc and mac im just saying ur right they r always overpriced with everything

  • @94JEDoucette wow mac is a rip off but mac blacks r like $500 more or something so yeah they are rip offs and always will be rip offs!

  • What I like about macs and hate about macs:

    1. You can't have msn messenger which is my favorite chat thingy!

    2. I hate the side bar!

    3. And your obsessed with mac....

    4. Microsoft has word, powerpoint, etc and gave apple some stuff.

    5. And your right there is lots of idoits on the road rofl

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  • @Teresasea Actually Apple does have MSN :) and I have Microsoft word, Microsoft Excel, Microsoft Powerpoint, and Microsoft Entourage, all on my mac :) love it

  • @lolgiggetyroflomg Nop duh I said microsoft gave mac some stuff read again!

  • @Teresasea but thats not some, thats more than some :)

  • @lolgiggetyroflomg they gave wmm?

  • @Teresasea they might as well delete WMM off of their list, its terrible compared to imovie

  • @lolgiggetyroflomg Ugh im more of an wmm fan

  • @Teresasea im not =\ idk ive just had better experiences with imovie

  • @lolgiggetyroflomg eh its opinons

  • hello mate i couldnt agree with you any more i understand how your feeling but come on all you need to do is take a 5 second look and you realise imovie and wmm are different imovie is amazing wmm is basic and yes your videos are great mate keep it up

  • Hmm so first you plead with us to be more mature but then, for the entire second half of the video, you go on insulting half the people who watched this. Repeatedly.

    Then you bash this guy for making an anti mac video, call him 30 different names but you don't leave a single argument about why he's wrong.

  • @slackeriii And the gross thing is that you have the audacity to call on your "apple minions" to go spam his channel for no apparent reason other than you "know he's wrong". This is what's really disturbing about you apple fan boys, your sheep mentality.

  • sounds like MouldyToasterVideo is doing exactly what the Mac adverts do, but in favour of windows...I agree, that guy is a douche

  • i love apple too but windows can be better and apple can be better its the pros and cons of it. apple has virus free protection, but it is a little overpriced. windows is cheaper, more affordable, but can very easily get a virus. so if you think apple more expensive, better stuff, windows more affordable but very easy to break down. plus the cost of repairs and stuff. i mean come on my xbox broke down and it took a month to ship and cost $100. so apple i cant wait to see u tomorrow morning

  • Part 1. Im not sorry for being biased. I love Windows, Microsoft and HP. False information? 3/4 of the stuff MAC advertises is false...

  • @RichardHKurt its apple dumbass

  • @BS4568 Dumbo its both! Mac ( short term ) - Macintosh ( kind of apple ) - apple ( fruit, food, eatable LOL )

  • Dude ur a fag

  • I use 4 Different OS's and I like Em' all, I use My Mac 64 bit OS for Web Development, I use Windows 7 64 for Gaming, I use Linux (CentOS) for a couple of Call Of Duty 4 game servers that I run, And I run Mandriva 64 2010 Power Pack on all 4 Of My notebooks ;)I think ppl should focus on what they agree on intead of focusing on what they disagree with.

  • I guess some ppl just feel better when they get themselves all mad and raise their heart-rate.

    Mean ppl suck Dude so dont even give em the pleasure of responding Bro

  • your like the coolest guy i ever saw on youtube

  • What are you smoking? Mac OS X is a horrible piece of shit and the hardware is still overpriced and locked down.

  • @fanboygotowned snow leopard is 30 dollars. Iwork is way cheaper than office

  • Wow, you keep saying your not a fanboy. Here you admit you are. You're a liar and a fraud. 

    Apple loser.

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  • I am a Mac, and Windows user, I personally think the Mac is better, but that's my opinion who gives a shit.

  • @iAppleGamers exactly no one cares a computer is a computer they all do pretty much the same thing.

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  • Lol! People are fighting over OS! You guys need to go out in society and try to lead normal lives for your own sakes. Nobody sane really cares about this petty nonsense stuff.

  • Im on the toaster video guys side

  • Dude, u need to get laid, im sorry, not being mean.

  • Clearly you don't know me.

  • @thecreativeone 6:15 i am with you! I am very buyist (i think that's how you spell it but i'm 15 i don't no) of apple! I currently want a mac mini but i'm stuck with an hp running 7 home premium

  • hey the creative one!! i saw your video on the imac g31 i have the same computer! i'm trying to get a new hard drive for it. could you help me?

  • @DjSafX HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

  • @DjSafX What does getting laid have to do with this?

  • you talk about manners david but u cuss in this video and u called this guy an idiot

  • f this and f u u efer

  • WHO CARES

  • dude u should be a lawyer its true how u don't have to be sorry about being bias that's how debating is i was raised in an asian family so yeah it didn't matter if we were bias with cousins or stuff like than after all it is your life i mean like some ppl r leavin comments like it's pointless bein loyal to apple or like u said cussin their butt off i mean ppl dont have to watch your videos. personally i don't want ppl holding grudges for stupid reasons like oh mac is better than pc or vice versa

  • i dont think people get it. mac and pc users are almost the exact same! we both want to use computers, surf the web, and create stuff! the only difference is the OS we use.and should that make us fight? im a pc user, but i realize a mac user is just like me! if anything, we should be nice to each other and want to discuss these things in a positive way! does anyone agree with me?

  • i think you're a Hippocrate

    why start this discussion if you didn't want to see our opinion

  • my mac broke after 18 months and cost 500 uk pounds to fix and took 4 weeks :-( apple are a brand of person, you clearly are a branded boy... its a concept global organisation... sad

  • An intelligent guy with manners. What a cutie :)

  • Microsoft > Apple

    b/c Microsoft has Zune, PC, Xbox, computer accesories, and lots and lots of software...

    Apple only has Iphone(over priced) Ipods(Over Priced, Overrated) Macintosh(over priced) and very little amount of Games.

    also, the Apple commercials are very misleading...(ie. "macs don't crash", "macs don't get viruses")

    but I do recommened you do a video on Xbox 360 Vs Playstation 3

    G'day!

    =D

  • I agree, that Apple is maybe better than Microsoft.

    But Apple will never beat Google or Linux!

    Microsoft sucks, because Bill Gates hates Open Source products.

    Do u know about the history of Mosaic?

  • I have a mac, but developers can have a hard time with it, cuz although the development environment is sweet and well-documented, publishing an app for the iphone is really annoying. I made an app who got rejected 2 times, and their reason was really stupid: I had a little picture in the instructions menu of my game, and it was the picture of an iphone. Apple said that picture wasnt allowed to stay in my app cuz its their product. I mean wtf? A picture of an iphone on an iphone is forbidden?

  • i have been a windows user for 3 years i don't tottaly hate apple but i have both machines there both good i prefer both both of them are good computer mac doesnt get viruses that's one good thing i love pc and mac

  • You are such a moron and a hater on every other fanboy, when you are a fanboy yourself. Do not complain about people ripping on macs when you constantly rip on windows. I like both windows and macintosh computers, and am certainly not a fanboy. You need to grow up and accept the fact that you are wrong sometimes, and you need to accept others thoughts and comments. I am fine with you continuing to favor apple. But please, show a little respect.

  • Wow, I just got to this 3rd and final clip on your Apple Hate series, and it seems that my assumptions on the last on were pretty much spot on.

    That's unfortunate.

    Because you should apologize to your viewers. You've wasted our time on this. We gave our opinions to you with the opportunity to have those opinions considered and recognized.

    And now you say that you don't care what others think and telling off those who don't agree.

    You're foolishly holding on to your pointless brand-name loyalty.

  • you arent biyest that is just your opinean and no ofens but it looks like all the coments ar killing you

    lol I am cindof dowing this in the rong order this is the fers vid i saw of yours but you seem like one of the fuw desant peepel in the world left

    ps I am dislexic (cant spell that ether ) so yar i can t spell

  • ok i have a mac and i dont like,

    it was a gift from my office.

    ok its a good computer BUT,

    everytime i see a vid from this apple guys.

    the think they are better then PC.

    erverytime they make4 jokes about pc.

    PC's have things the are better.

    and Mac's have things they are better.

    i hope you understand what i meen.

    i like my Mac book pro but it crashes to.

  • I'm loyal to Apple because it just works great.

  • Agreed, people need to grow up. Mac fans like to Fbomb windows videos as well. It's sad that people cannot take the lessons that were supposed to be learned in grade school to keep sensible dialog going.

  • me too

  • x-box is windows that is y i play on my mac :)

  • play what?

  • sims 3

  • lol, well it is a good game, but thats probbably the 1 of few games that you can get on a mac

  • oh ya lol this guy rocks :)

  • I'm mac'apc

  • my gay brother was watching the gay pride parade last week... apparently he saw this guy :D

  • SORRY BOUT THE COMMENTS

  • This guy is expecting the internet community which is mostly gamers to be civil? Ignorance is bliss I guess.

  • yh no swearing im 12

  • If you want the debating to stop then why do you make videos such at these? It just causes drama and controversy. No one(intelligent) cares what you have to say about two rival(rival?) operating systems. OS is for many things but mainly for people with little to no technical experience. Example? You can't even open an Apple system without voiding their warranty. Fuuck that, brah. I have a MBP and use it daily. Also have windows installed. For gaming/tech use, OS X cannot compare.

  • APPLE RULES

  • Apple MAC's adverts give of false information. One advert stated that Windows operating system is so bloated and fat because of all the updates. Windows XP is apparently a very bloated operating system. It has been released for 5-6 years now. Okay it has three service packs. OS X leopard 10.5.6 is just a discreet way of saying OS X leopard Service Pack 6. It already has 6 service packs. Apple can chat s**t to. Which is a shame because I like the GUI and the layout of their desktop.

  • yea, at 1:22, tell that to emeek77.

  • make more debate videos!!!!!

  • you can't argue for a mac because you will always lose. there are many subtle things macs have that makes them very annoying, and not worth buying. spend 1000$ on an annoying operating system with a weak computer. macs are the idiots computer. they crash more than a dell windows machine. I will stick with my stable computer. the problem is mac fanboys are 90% of the time morons on youtube like you. windows is better if you like choice, linux also has choice, mac is a childs computer.

  • You ask people to act mature and then you go off on a foul mouthed tirade? You obviously are a crazy fanboy who can't tolerate the fact that others don't like Apple. SO WHAT! You are exactly the stereotypical Apple crazed fan that Windows users can't tolerate. Everyone is right...as long as they agree with you right? People like yourself aren't doing Apple any favors with this over top video. It only shows your insecurity, and lack of tolerance for choice. Constructive criticism is good.

  • Hey im a windows user. I think mac are better quilty and dont get virus but the good thing windows computers that they are cheaper. Great Vids I watch all your vids.

  • linux FTW

  • in my opinion... Apple makes priopretary software & System Hardware (Logic Board) - so that they can put their shitty hardware in it and people that dont know what they buy - are buying that shit - put windows xp with bootcamp on it and mean "im a apple user - im the Hero" thats why i apple hate - and with linux distributions i can do ALL what Mac OS X can - AND MORE ... no fanboy shit - thats FACT

  • I've tried to stay neutral with the mac vs pc debate, but I just can't. I just built my new computer for around 2100 dollars. If I configured it at the apple store, it would be easily twice as much, if not more. Plus it wouldn't be as good. Macs just don't come with the options and parts that PC's can have. Not to mention most of my applications wouldn't work on mac.

    And to those fanboys who end up installing windows on their macs anyways because your apps don't work otherwise, ROFL@you.

  • fail

  • Moldy toaster just liked to hate... When he was on Youtube... He was suspended... He hated on the Wii, PS3, and Xbox 360 before they where even out.

  • im 15 and i say the f word with my freinds a lot i have nothing agist you i like both platfoms its pissing me off all these "adults acting younger than me lmao i like macs and windows and linux i want a mac to much money only reason i like it isd you can run os x windows 7 (beta) and linux all in one =]

  • y have a pc thats works on windows vista and y want to say that y don't hate Mac.i love bouth and is someone hav Mac..good to him...but y think there isent much diference(i don't have experience winth Mac) but y THINK bouth are the same

  • Respect is non existent in this world :/.

  • ya you are right i-movie you have to purchase and windows is FREE!!!

  • He wants to tear up moldytoaster O_o""

  • I wonder how much apple is paying this guy

  • Did mommy and daddy buy those Apple products?

  • Fuck apple!!!!

  • FYI, a young viewer is considered like 9 or 10 these days..and most 15 and 16 year olds DO swear, especially on the Internet, as many people have said.

  • 1:19 at you say to your viewers "Watch you're language."

    First of all, this is youtube. Youtube comments are the archetypal equivalent of the free world plus anonymity. Secondly, almost all 15 and 16 year olds are well accustomed to swearing, especially if they are on the internet. Finally, saying "screw you" is the same as saying "fuck you", except your parents will yell at you for choosing the latter.