one thing i've never understood about racing "back in the day", how the hell did the drivers actually fit in the cars, i mean their balls must have been the size of your average planet?
This isn't Barth. It appears to be Jacky Ickx? Barth had a white helmet with a visor, Ickx's was dark blue (appeared black on onboards).
What I don't get is why Jurgen is commentating when Ickx is driving? Or did he borrow his lid for the practice session?
They both raced for Porsche that year, but Ickx was actually on the other team and got transferred to Jurgen's team midway through the event. So what is the story behind this?
Best is Porsche 917/30 ... 1973 ... 1500+ bhp in Q, 1100 bhp in race ... 1.9 to 60 mph, 10.9s to 200 mph. First car to break 400 km/h or 250 mph in Le Man ... With 258 mph or 414 km/h.
917-30 never raced at Le Mans. It was a Can Am car only.
Maximum power for a 917 at Le Mans was 630bhp. Never did 400kmh either. Top claimed speed is 386. Speed trap for 1971 - the year of the Langheck - was 361.2kmh. These are official figures from the Le Mans speed trap. They are published every year in the Autotechnica Le Mans Annual.
The only car to do 258 was a Peugeot on a closed road test. Porsche NEVER did this. Highest speed ever for Porsche was 393 kmh by H-J Stuck in 1988.
Can't believe that there's hardly any armco along the mulsanne straight,very unnerving at that speed! Having said that this is a great piece of footage,still reckon the porsche 936 could hold its own against the modern open-tops which look really ugly and have zero character.
Porsche owns. This was the fastest era of racing in history as far as top speeds, because the tracks did not have all the goddamn chicanes to kill speed. Formula One cars have too much downforce to keep up with these cars in a straight line.
Yeah, they really were hitting 230+mph down the Mulsane Straight. These cars were probably a bit shy of that, but the 917 was estimated by one of the factory drivers (based on RPM and gear ratios) to be going right around 240MPH.
The classic 935/936 cars were amazing. They had lap records that lasted even part way through the 956/962 ground effects cars of the 1980s. These cars were wild with tons of turbo lag and in some configurations, were faster than some Formula One cars. 230+ MPH on Mulsane Straight at lemans was commonplace in this era. Too bad I was not alive during this great time of motorsports.
230+ MPH? Is that really true? I am not saying that it is NOT true, but it sounds so freaking fast for that time. Didnt understand, did they have turbos or not those days?
You have to remember that this was when turbo technology (especially with Porsche) was really coming into it's own. 230 mph wasn't unheard of. that why those chicanes had to be added. The speed of the cars was years ahead of the safety.
Right on all counts...with one rider. The 917 did 240 only once: in April 1971 at an unofficial test weekend. 935 was clocked by the ACO radar at 217, which is still plenty quick. Group C did 230+ and two cars did 400kmh or better (Sauber and Peugeot).
凄い!! 936 マジで速い!!ユノディエールが6㎞だった頃のド迫力!!
音もよいです。
irvine94c 6 months ago
one thing i've never understood about racing "back in the day", how the hell did the drivers actually fit in the cars, i mean their balls must have been the size of your average planet?
MrTautologist 10 months ago
great stuff
911myporsche 1 year ago
amazing vid... thanks for sharing.
RogerTurk 1 year ago
Those Martini cars were badass!!!
4JayeP 2 years ago
i hope that Porsche consider to comback to Le Mans and blow them again away
RvE1985 2 years ago 3
This isn't Barth. It appears to be Jacky Ickx? Barth had a white helmet with a visor, Ickx's was dark blue (appeared black on onboards).
What I don't get is why Jurgen is commentating when Ickx is driving? Or did he borrow his lid for the practice session?
They both raced for Porsche that year, but Ickx was actually on the other team and got transferred to Jurgen's team midway through the event. So what is the story behind this?
Anyone?
RottenIsAGunner 2 years ago
Yeah: I agree, it's Ickx. The helmet is a give away.
Ickx won the 1977 event with Gijs van Lennep so I'm not sure what you mean.
Camerameister 2 years ago
Best is Porsche 917/30 ... 1973 ... 1500+ bhp in Q, 1100 bhp in race ... 1.9 to 60 mph, 10.9s to 200 mph. First car to break 400 km/h or 250 mph in Le Man ... With 258 mph or 414 km/h.
andriusssska 3 years ago
PERFECT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
benny90b 2 years ago
917-30 never raced at Le Mans. It was a Can Am car only.
Maximum power for a 917 at Le Mans was 630bhp. Never did 400kmh either. Top claimed speed is 386. Speed trap for 1971 - the year of the Langheck - was 361.2kmh. These are official figures from the Le Mans speed trap. They are published every year in the Autotechnica Le Mans Annual.
The only car to do 258 was a Peugeot on a closed road test. Porsche NEVER did this. Highest speed ever for Porsche was 393 kmh by H-J Stuck in 1988.
Camerameister 2 years ago
yes it´s in german
alzenporsche93 3 years ago
Can't believe that there's hardly any armco along the mulsanne straight,very unnerving at that speed! Having said that this is a great piece of footage,still reckon the porsche 936 could hold its own against the modern open-tops which look really ugly and have zero character.
motorsportnutter4eva 3 years ago 6
da newer protos seem slower coz dey put 2 chicanes along da Mulsane straight!
A7V2 2 years ago
the fastest car in le mans was the rondeu lp79 the timing was 257mph and the porsche 917-k was 260 altered
brakeexpress 3 years ago
Porsche owns. This was the fastest era of racing in history as far as top speeds, because the tracks did not have all the goddamn chicanes to kill speed. Formula One cars have too much downforce to keep up with these cars in a straight line.
6410saue 3 years ago
race on a tighter track, F1 would own thoguh
BrnoutJerzey 3 years ago
Yeah, they really were hitting 230+mph down the Mulsane Straight. These cars were probably a bit shy of that, but the 917 was estimated by one of the factory drivers (based on RPM and gear ratios) to be going right around 240MPH.
Kartracer087 3 years ago
The classic 935/936 cars were amazing. They had lap records that lasted even part way through the 956/962 ground effects cars of the 1980s. These cars were wild with tons of turbo lag and in some configurations, were faster than some Formula One cars. 230+ MPH on Mulsane Straight at lemans was commonplace in this era. Too bad I was not alive during this great time of motorsports.
Kartracer087 4 years ago
230+ MPH? Is that really true? I am not saying that it is NOT true, but it sounds so freaking fast for that time. Didnt understand, did they have turbos or not those days?
tcederholm 3 years ago
You have to remember that this was when turbo technology (especially with Porsche) was really coming into it's own. 230 mph wasn't unheard of. that why those chicanes had to be added. The speed of the cars was years ahead of the safety.
sharkythesharkdogg 3 years ago
Don't forget back then the mulsanne straight had no chicanes, so 3 miles of straight. 2000 lb cars with 600+ hp image that.
dbell962 3 years ago
Right on all counts...with one rider. The 917 did 240 only once: in April 1971 at an unofficial test weekend. 935 was clocked by the ACO radar at 217, which is still plenty quick. Group C did 230+ and two cars did 400kmh or better (Sauber and Peugeot).
Camerameister 1 year ago
Could i get those links??
Interpol024 4 years ago
ahh the old lemans track no chicanes all out speed
jazzbo1974 4 years ago
Oh yeh soz!!! my mistake
cheers again
LeMansMan007 4 years ago
How the hell did u get this old video
thts amazin
btw cud u try to get the 1996 race ive never heard or seen anything bout tht one i really wanna bout tht race please cheers
LeMansMan007 4 years ago
i already sent you the links to the sites where you can get this and Le Mans 1996.
Porsche911GT1 4 years ago