He is right everyone is self-absorbed, EVERY ONE is narcissistic. As babies we a born this way, but society makes more social, but ALL of us deep inside are self absorbed.
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Narcissism is part of human nature, it is only bad when you hurt other people or make them feel inferior. I believe I'm better than most in many, many things, BUT I don't say it. They are also better than me in some ways, but I have my areas of expertise, I don't care or wanna hear about it.
No, ego is not what you´re describing, and empathy and caring and good / evil dont rely on ego.
Ego is a construction, a representation of who you are and a set of rules and ties that help you deal with your surroundings. But ego is not "you". In fact ego can mask "you" and prevent you from caring, discerning good and evil, loving. etc.
@juanarruti well, as far as I'm aware the only things that matter to me is relevant stuff... I don't know anything but one thing I am sure of is that I am seeking that emotional satisfaction called happiness...
it's the only reason people show any interest in science or religion... "how can I benefit"
'truth' mean's sod all when you think of it like that
@rowe98 Actually Narcissism and Sociopathy are different disorders. I'm a Sociopath, and don't be confused by behaviorist definitions, the symptoms are not the disease. Sociopaths are incapable of normal love, the feelings of love are not there, and we also can't feel guilt, pity, genuine unselfish remorse, and we don't experience the feelings of empathy as normal people do, if at all. We often have to learn to function the hard way, or turn out social predators. Philosophy and Ethics compensate
@rowe98 However there are some similarities which can confuse the two. For the narcissist pretty much everything relates to his or her ego, they may lack empathy or pity or remorse but it's more due to their oblivious selfish nature a lot of the time, the similar traits are for different underlying reasons. Also a sociopath often gets better with age, that's because we learn how to better live harmonious lives with age, narcissists typically don't. Sam Vaknin has a lot of interesting stuff on it
Having a healthy ego, is placing yourself at the centre of YOUR existence yet being fully aware of everyone/everything else being at the centre of their own existence:) If you have a healthy ego, you can relate to and/or feel with others in ways that do not necessary place yourself in the centre of focus whether as a selfish jerk or selfless "martyr". Narcissism on the other hand is the total inability to see things without picturing onself as the centre of attention/focus...
no maan you are not a narc, ur just an over privelidged spoiled piece of shit, that does not know a shit about anything because your head is so far up your ass.
Haha, everyone goes through a narcissistic phase in their lifes. This does not make him a sociopath. Though I would say he use's the word martyr in a stupid way. You cant call yourself a martyr and then go on to say that you love nothing more than yourself. It's a paradox.
It's not about ego, it's about arrogance, self-absorbed shallowness and superficiality with a sense that the world revolves around you and is there for your amusement. You know you are dude. But you must also know this makes you a sociopath/psychoath? I'm sure you will get better at hiding it as you get older but I have know too many of your kind to be fooled. I'm not putting you down. Truth be told I feel sorry for you guys. You will never know what it is to be human.
someone who calls me that is not being my friend anyway, better leave and talk when she gets better, recognize attacks, there is never a reason to attack
You think you know everything, and that your briliant, you use semi big word to seem intelligent. You use i and me alot. you do things for people to boost your image, to feel better about yourself and so theyll think highly of you. your not a martyer. you think your better and everything is wrong that you dont think is right. thats a narsassist and your cualified. clapclapclapclap
i stumbled across your videos purely by accident. your video was "how to fight a sociopath", and i thought about responding, "yes, and how do you battle a narcissist?". then completely by accident i found this post. clearly you've heard the response before. listen - it's got nothing to do with your ideas. the most offensive thing about a narcissist is that the ideas are used as an excuse to look pretty in front of a camera. a narcissist talks about big ideas to make themselves look good.
People don't know what narcissism is. A true narcissist is someone who is unable to acknowledge that other people have wants or needs. Its not that they acknowledge that you have needs and wants and ignore them, its that they simply are not capable of seeing that anyone else has needs. You are spreading a message that people can love other people even if they are sociopaths. You are voicing your beliefs this does not make you a narcissist.
This is the first video I've seen of you so I don't exactly know why they would call you a narcissist, but a narcissist can't relate, and thus abuses others. If the narcissist didn't abuse others it wouldn't be a narcissist. I feel nothing wrong with being self centered but I have never felt the need to hurt others for my own self aggrandizement. There is a big difference between self centered and narcissistic. One of the two on either side of the argument is using the term out of context.
why not sacrifice yourself to an irrational degree, if you just said that you being a "martyr" is irrational, and only existing because it gives you enjoyment and a feeling of goodness (which you said was incoherent AKA irrational) and self worth?
Please don't call yourself a narcissist when you aren't. You have an ego just like any emotionally healthy person. You are balanced between being a narcissist and a martyr. It's healthy to have elements of both but that doesn't make you a narcissist on the one hand or a martyr on the other hand.
from higher responsibilitie, to much attention, to the winners of anything, look at celeberities, they get mind disturbed by all this things...donno, world is kind of complex.
Lets try to have a Equilibre Ego, the thing is that Low Ego is bad, and high Ego is bad.
You do that cause is your nature, and mine too, probably everyones...some dont, cause they have others organic priorities if they are in a fear state, in competetive state, a survival state of mind, in a insignificance state (low ego) that drives them to significance (source of violence?) in a high significance state (high ego) that drive them to egocentric thinking and obcession, maybe this high ego comes
There is actually a rational reason to want to help people. We have live in a society with other people. People are what help us transform cruel nature into things we need and desire.
don't criticize anyone for anything, ever, because you yourself are guilty of everything, always?... that's what you seem to be saying towards the end of this video, but doesn't that contradict what you said in your previous videos?
GeraldP1983, do you remember that political science teacher, i think back in 2007, who was critiquing communism and talking about how every act that we do has some level of selfishness involved in it, and that made you want to think about what acts involved selflessness? Does it seem to you Luke is addressing those same questions with this vid? If someone knows that a selfless act brings profound internal transformation and true happiness, then he is not selfish when he does act to get reward?
Hey! Thanks for question! I think Luke is addressing a similar topic yes! My thoughts on this is that since those who are of an enlightened nature naturally tend towards altruistic and loving minds, the ego doesn't necessarily need to be involved with love or compassion. You can be both egoless and be of a state of mind that is kind, loving, and compassionate, I don't think they are mutually exclusive, although I understand what Luke is expressing! :)
detriplea, when you really think aboot it, Luke was awfully weird to begin with. Do you remember the vid that began "I'm an anarchist and i have scissors." (Anarchy the musical). Probably Luke will take this one down now that i mentioned it, so take a peek at it before he takes it down to refresh memories. It's the same weird, articulate, genuine, narcissistic Luke we both love. i'm waving my curled fingers in the air around the term, narcissistic (ok, gameboygenius :=)
Sorry to sound so melodramatic, but i'm having one of the best times of my short life roaming around this place and watching your vids. This is better than any TV show; it's like an interactive suspenseful movie. There's never been anything like this YT experience, in the history of man (my parents remind me) -- an individual is recording his ideas, his growth, his creativity for people to view. It really takes a unique individual, a full-blown narcissist ;-D, to pull this off with such grace.
Kernwaffen auch Nuklearwaffen oder Atomwaffen genannt sind Waffen, deren Wirkung auf kernphysikalischen Prozessen beruht, insbesondere der Kernspaltung und Kernfusion. Konventionelle Waffen beziehen dagegen ihre Explosionsenergie aus chemischen Reaktionen, bei denen die Atomkerne unverändert bleiben. Zusammen mit biologischen und chemischen Waffen gehören Kernwaffen zu den so genannten ABC-Waffen.
I get what you're doing here. You're trying to invalidate the very concept of labeling people, by diluting the value of the labels to the point where they don't mean anything. (Everyone is a narcissist, sociopath, or whatever you're discussing for the day.) The thing is, these labels are applied to people when the traits in question stand out form the norm. Everyone has narcissistic tendencies, but not everyone are completely is so self centered that they mett the criteria to be called narcissis
I can't speak for Luke, but i don't think he is diluting labels (he did that on another political vid). He does like to throw around these psychiatric terms as though he is a psychiatrist, which he may be. I know he writes great lyrics using these psychiatric words. But i think Luke is trying to show how we each have elements of all these labels inside our brains, so we should not be so judgmental about others. Prescription side effects, tumors, etc. can cause any of us to stand out from norm.
Gameboygenius, been thinking more, Luke is now interested in serial killers, what makes them kill. Many of us long-time lovers know the emotional fine line between killer and lover. Don't we have potential to murder when conditions become too stressful? Why are children more likely to be murdered by a relative than a stranger? It must be frustrating to have Luke's exceptional intelligence, yet get sadistic, half-baked criticism for trying his cheery best to communicate weighty ideas and educate.
(1) If you think my comment was "sadistic" you're clearly overinterpreting it.
As for murdering relatives... Yes, that is true. But it also true that people with certain predispositions in their brains are more likely to be stressed about rlationships to the point that they might murder or otherwise hurt a loved one. Other people don't have this predisposition. This is what I mean by the difference between a non-narcissistic person and a narcissistic person.
(2) However, in my opinion, Luke tries to gloss over the existence of such a predisposition with his line of reasoning. By saying that everybody has a bit of narcissism in them, he dilutes the concept of narcissism by moving the focus away from the possible existence of such a predisposition. When someone is predisposed towards conflict with other people, we might call them a narcissist. That's what the word means.
(3) Also not that I'm not accusing Luke of being a narcissist or anything else. I'm merely arguing against his general line of reasoning when it comes to narcissism and also other labels/judgements of other people.
Gamboygenius, I am glad you are not the one(s) calling Luke a narcissist, because Luke is not a narcissist, even though he is willing to fall on his sword (admitting to being a narcissist) to make a point poetically about how we need to love ourselves first in order to love others, and to remind us to be compassionate because there is a fine line between lovers and killers, narcissists and non-narcissists. He's emphasizing the fine line and our shared humanity; not trying to muddy terms. A poet.
GameboyGenius, so problem is little countdown character boxes that cut us off. ;=) I'm not a psychiatrist, although i could use one. My understanding is diagnostic term for narcissistic personality disorder (NPD) describes someone who exhibits "pervasive pattern of grandiosity, need for admiration, and lack of empathy." I think Lee Harvey Oswald, Kennedy assassin, if you were not born after Oliver Stone vid, is considered by sane historians to be narcissist who coldly acted out grandiose plot.
Hi, Gameboygenius, i was not specifically talking about your criticism, just venting about what i've witnessed. On predispositions, do we really know how people get them? Are they genetic predispositions latent in all men? If so, Luke's point. You may be too young to remember news of Texas Tower massacre. Charles Whitman killed mother, wife, 14 others from high tower on campus; up to that point he was a loving guy, well-liked. Fine line: glioblastoma tumor agitating R-complex, that we all have?
(3) "Are they genetic predispositions latent in all men? If so, Luke's point." Not really my point. My point is that the predispositions are individual, that is, different in every person. Some people are more predisposed towards a certain direction, regardless of environment. What I miss in Luke's reasoning is this accounting for this factor. (Ie "anyone is (almost) as likely to end up in a certain situation, given environmental triggers")
(4) For example, if Whitman had had different genes, he might not have killed the people he killed, even facing the same challenges. As for the question of Luke being a narcissist I'm not saying he is, I'm not saying he isn't. I'm leaving the question open, for I would need to know him in real life, interact with him irectly, to judge.
But I agree he is a poet, and inspiring at that. That doesn't mean I agree with all he says.
Gameboygenius, hopefully summing up cause we got to make survival income, now that you expanded your remarks, i understand your point. I am planning to spend considerable time studying the brain for a while so i guess i am about to learn what you are telling me.
On Luke, i feel he is closer to me than my blood brother, but he has little idea who i am. I viewed most of his vids, learned lots about his character, and got lucky with peek into his real soul. His soul is about as good as they come.
BTW, no, i am not Bush and Luke is not Putin, just in case that soul stuff made them come to mind (Bush claimed to get a sense of Putin's soul, then their relationship plummeted).
Obviously, however, in comparing myself to world leaders and in planning self-absorbing studies of the brain so that i can be admired by YTers, I do fit diagnostic definition of a narcissist. So is that what you and Luke were trying to gently get me to conclude by using your poetic and maieutic techniques on me?
See the basic difference between benign and malignant narcissism sir. You're describing benign narcissism and why it's necessary/self evident. If others are accusing you of being narcissistic, they're almost certainly referring to the malignant form, which is indeed something you would want to "change" about yourself.
EsotericThrone, you gave yourself a good name. If i were to judge you, as you seem to be jumping to judge Luke (a person who is so malignantly narcissistic that he took time to offer compassionate advice that helped save my life), I'd have to conclude that anyone who names himself "King of Knowledge Understood by Only a Few as Intelligent as I" must be suffering from malignant narcissism. But Luke forgives us, including me for my pompous, sadistic, narcissistic response to you. Chill, yo ;=)
EsotericThrone, I do know Luke, since the day he was born. I'm his dad. I taught Luke everything he knows about self-reliance, self-sufficiency, how to stay independent from enslaving, hierarchical forces consuming so many people and spitting them out. I trained Luke since birth to be a bold and compassionate warrior, someone who relishes the fight, who is prepared for long battle, and who never loses sight of the ultimate goal -- freeing individuals to rule their own minds! (just kidding)
Bravo! This had to be one of your funniest videos in a while. I thought "My Message to the Government" was funny, but this had me laughing so hard I was crying. Your narcissism leads to your altruism and martyrdom! Of course. It all makes perfect sense now. If you have no ego deaths that you don't know anything about will upset you! That line alone was priceless. And then in the next breath you contradict yourself. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
Maybe you are laughing so hard, you missed Luke's point? We share an evolutionary brain structure, and we all have narcissistic as well as altruistic impulses. If we manifest either of these opposite tendencies, why should we be so critical of either? We are all humans trying to unfold to our optimal potentials. The question i wonder about is why do you seem to be so oddly sadistic? But then that question is a bit sadistic itself, and that is Luke's point. We're all alike, so just chill, yo !
BTW, Luke, i posted text of vid at the website link on my channel. I think reading text with vid helps people not to jump on a particular sentence and pound you, before taking in entire vid and reflecting on overall message, not just little pieces of it. I suspect that writing may create consciousness - our thoughts concretized symbolically outside our brain and the process of revisualizing them causes consciousness. Revisualizing message via written words, at minimum, enhances understanding.
If you have time, you could grab the text there and put it in your more info box here. That box seems to take quite a bit of info (not so limited like comment boxes).
Maybe it's just that anything under a microscope seems bigger. Your self-analyses have never come across as 'Aren't I fascinating' — it's always come across, to me anyway, as the best starting point for asking questions about the self, that may extend to others. Your analysis seems like an invitation to others to self-reflect.
The more I watch you, the more respect I have for you. Those were very coherent, well thought out explanations. Bravo.
All this talk of loving yourself reminds me of Atlas Shrugged by Ayn Rand. A lot of your underlying themes are similar. By any chance hace you read it and/or taken anything from it?
Prof Luke, you lost me with this: 0:56 And if you have no ego, then someone dying across the world, who you dont know and you will never hear of, their death will effect you just as much as the death of a close family member or friend. And if you have absolutely no ego, then it will effect you not at all. And that will be the common factor, is zero.
Maybe i'm too tired and need to reflect more tomorrow. Equation may be beautiful, but i could not grasp it. Can you help with this paragraph?
The ego is just attachment to aspects of the world. So if you have no ego, you have no attachment, and you don't care if your family dies. If you care it is a sign of attachment, and that's just a sign of an ego. Does that help? For the record I think an ego can be good and bad, it just brings more suffering but more meaning.
It is funny, the problem for me is that my limbic center simply is overriding my neocortex on this matter. Ego will not even allow my neocortex to consider the possibility that it does not exist. My neocortex is trying to form a speculative thought: consider you do not exist, ego, but my ego shouts, "no, i do exist, fuck yourself neocortex." My limbic center shuts down neocortical conjecture on mater. Luke, i think your neocortex is more advanced than mine, for it can consider ego not existing.
I forgot to consult my imaginary brain when considering my response to your clarification. I think my right-sided imaginary brain becomes inactive when i am doing heavy left-sided linguistic processing. What i find so amazing is you are able to rapidly roam around your brain areas and quickly report what is going on in there, and you do so without regard to social constructs that inhibit such revelations. I'd like to scan your brain to see if its more hyperactive than ave. brain. I'm sure it is.
I actually was thinking that you were a narcissist yesterday, but this was a good video which explains it more. I agree with everything you said here. We are all narcissists. I made a somewhat similar video yesterday, but decided not to upload it. But, I made a slightly different one today that I'm about to upload which talks about similar issues. Maybe you can check it out, and let me know what you think.
i dont think your a narcissist, your just smart and helpful.. lol
JustReachUp 19 hours ago
Keep this channel
Owlhousespecial 4 days ago
Dude your not narcissistic, your intelligent. You speak so much true to me. I deeply respect you for your knowledge.
bizbite2 1 week ago
He is right everyone is self-absorbed, EVERY ONE is narcissistic. As babies we a born this way, but society makes more social, but ALL of us deep inside are self absorbed.
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Narcissism is part of human nature, it is only bad when you hurt other people or make them feel inferior. I believe I'm better than most in many, many things, BUT I don't say it. They are also better than me in some ways, but I have my areas of expertise, I don't care or wanna hear about it.
bizbite2 1 week ago
hahahahahaha!!! what a-weirdo!!!!...and yea, an ugly one too--inside and out.
PrimrosePoet 2 weeks ago
You're ugly--inside and out....
VelvetLaceMoon 2 weeks ago
And whose your sociopathic type Dad?...did your mother date Ted Bundy or something???
MagicCarpetRidder 2 weeks ago
No, ego is not what you´re describing, and empathy and caring and good / evil dont rely on ego.
Ego is a construction, a representation of who you are and a set of rules and ties that help you deal with your surroundings. But ego is not "you". In fact ego can mask "you" and prevent you from caring, discerning good and evil, loving. etc.
yohami 1 month ago
@LaHappiest - Geez, he's a bright teenager, give him a break. You're way to harsh.
studiosinger 1 month ago
@studiosinger nah, if he was bright he would take it as a challenge... bright people only strive to be brighter
Redflowers9 2 weeks ago
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embell1987 2 months ago
There is no reality or truth... the words don't mean anything so why use them?
Redflowers9 2 months ago
@Redflowers9 dude i get that. thats what i feel.
juanarruti 2 weeks ago
@juanarruti well, as far as I'm aware the only things that matter to me is relevant stuff... I don't know anything but one thing I am sure of is that I am seeking that emotional satisfaction called happiness...
it's the only reason people show any interest in science or religion... "how can I benefit"
'truth' mean's sod all when you think of it like that
Redflowers9 2 weeks ago
A Narcissistic ego is not a normal ego, it is a sick, unhealthy ego that is all pervasive.
Laughingblades 3 months ago
are you saying if youre hitler its ok
my4thone 4 months ago
This makes no sense. This isn't what a narcissist is, you're explaining the opposite of a sociopath.
rowe98 6 months ago
@rowe98 Actually Narcissism and Sociopathy are different disorders. I'm a Sociopath, and don't be confused by behaviorist definitions, the symptoms are not the disease. Sociopaths are incapable of normal love, the feelings of love are not there, and we also can't feel guilt, pity, genuine unselfish remorse, and we don't experience the feelings of empathy as normal people do, if at all. We often have to learn to function the hard way, or turn out social predators. Philosophy and Ethics compensate
Laughingblades 3 months ago
@rowe98 However there are some similarities which can confuse the two. For the narcissist pretty much everything relates to his or her ego, they may lack empathy or pity or remorse but it's more due to their oblivious selfish nature a lot of the time, the similar traits are for different underlying reasons. Also a sociopath often gets better with age, that's because we learn how to better live harmonious lives with age, narcissists typically don't. Sam Vaknin has a lot of interesting stuff on it
Laughingblades 3 months ago
Having a healthy ego, is placing yourself at the centre of YOUR existence yet being fully aware of everyone/everything else being at the centre of their own existence:) If you have a healthy ego, you can relate to and/or feel with others in ways that do not necessary place yourself in the centre of focus whether as a selfish jerk or selfless "martyr". Narcissism on the other hand is the total inability to see things without picturing onself as the centre of attention/focus...
zeragito 6 months ago
Great Vid
jdw211 7 months ago
no maan you are not a narc, ur just an over privelidged spoiled piece of shit, that does not know a shit about anything because your head is so far up your ass.
BekBud1 7 months ago
And you know what a person loves a person or thing for how that person or thing makes them feel. There is no such thing as selfless love in humanity.
MyItsfun 7 months ago
Haha, everyone goes through a narcissistic phase in their lifes. This does not make him a sociopath. Though I would say he use's the word martyr in a stupid way. You cant call yourself a martyr and then go on to say that you love nothing more than yourself. It's a paradox.
Elofzone 7 months ago
It's not about ego, it's about arrogance, self-absorbed shallowness and superficiality with a sense that the world revolves around you and is there for your amusement. You know you are dude. But you must also know this makes you a sociopath/psychoath? I'm sure you will get better at hiding it as you get older but I have know too many of your kind to be fooled. I'm not putting you down. Truth be told I feel sorry for you guys. You will never know what it is to be human.
guydecervens 8 months ago
only a narcissist could make a video entitled ''Am I a Narcissist''
TRjosh 8 months ago 7
fighting evil with good is...
it'd all come back with me
I'd say 'I have nothing to do with your uptake'
someone who calls me that is not being my friend anyway, better leave and talk when she gets better, recognize attacks, there is never a reason to attack
valken666 9 months ago
You think you know everything, and that your briliant, you use semi big word to seem intelligent. You use i and me alot. you do things for people to boost your image, to feel better about yourself and so theyll think highly of you. your not a martyer. you think your better and everything is wrong that you dont think is right. thats a narsassist and your cualified. clapclapclapclap
tigoldbitties1 9 months ago
i stumbled across your videos purely by accident. your video was "how to fight a sociopath", and i thought about responding, "yes, and how do you battle a narcissist?". then completely by accident i found this post. clearly you've heard the response before. listen - it's got nothing to do with your ideas. the most offensive thing about a narcissist is that the ideas are used as an excuse to look pretty in front of a camera. a narcissist talks about big ideas to make themselves look good.
TroyArn 9 months ago
People don't know what narcissism is. A true narcissist is someone who is unable to acknowledge that other people have wants or needs. Its not that they acknowledge that you have needs and wants and ignore them, its that they simply are not capable of seeing that anyone else has needs. You are spreading a message that people can love other people even if they are sociopaths. You are voicing your beliefs this does not make you a narcissist.
twistedtreespirit 10 months ago
This is the first video I've seen of you so I don't exactly know why they would call you a narcissist, but a narcissist can't relate, and thus abuses others. If the narcissist didn't abuse others it wouldn't be a narcissist. I feel nothing wrong with being self centered but I have never felt the need to hurt others for my own self aggrandizement. There is a big difference between self centered and narcissistic. One of the two on either side of the argument is using the term out of context.
HEIBAOSHEN 10 months ago
why not sacrifice yourself to an irrational degree, if you just said that you being a "martyr" is irrational, and only existing because it gives you enjoyment and a feeling of goodness (which you said was incoherent AKA irrational) and self worth?
hmm? answer that.
OdeToNecrophilia 10 months ago
i loooveee youuuu
OdeToNecrophilia 10 months ago
Please don't call yourself a narcissist when you aren't. You have an ego just like any emotionally healthy person. You are balanced between being a narcissist and a martyr. It's healthy to have elements of both but that doesn't make you a narcissist on the one hand or a martyr on the other hand.
lemsip 10 months ago
HEY, STOP DEFENDING YOURSELF. YOU ARE A HUMANITARIAN.
THAT'S IT. JUST KEEP DOING WHAT YOU ARE DOING. ALLOW
THE NEGATIVE INPUTS OF PEOPLE'S PAIN BODIES TO EXPRESS
WHAT THEY ENJOY, MISERY. BUT PLEASE, STOP DEFENDING
YOUR HUMANITARIANISM. USE YOUR POSITIVE ENERGY ON THE
ONE'S THAT APPRECIATE IT. OKIE DOKE?
contemplations100 11 months ago
if you're not you do a good imitation
cunnidvd 1 year ago
I would "love" myself everyday if I looked like him.
xxdiogenescynicxx 1 year ago
lol if i knew you, i would have to tape your mouth shut :D then we could just stare at each other hahha
LipstickandCola 1 year ago
Everyone, these are the effects of an isolated man.
Traebo18 1 year ago
"Self-love, my liege, is not so vile a sin as self-neglecting."
nihilistopher 2 years ago
You an atheist?
RandomRealist 2 years ago
from higher responsibilitie, to much attention, to the winners of anything, look at celeberities, they get mind disturbed by all this things...donno, world is kind of complex.
Great vid ;) Sorry for my writing
AzoreanProud 2 years ago
Lets try to have a Equilibre Ego, the thing is that Low Ego is bad, and high Ego is bad.
You do that cause is your nature, and mine too, probably everyones...some dont, cause they have others organic priorities if they are in a fear state, in competetive state, a survival state of mind, in a insignificance state (low ego) that drives them to significance (source of violence?) in a high significance state (high ego) that drive them to egocentric thinking and obcession, maybe this high ego comes
AzoreanProud 2 years ago
All is about ' I ' (Mooji):
Jd03o2-dCKk
Taaplari 2 years ago
A narcissist is someone better looking than you. (Gore Vidal). Why should'nt you be a narcissist.. You look like a young Brad Pitt!
bobstheking 2 years ago
Nice video man. So I am guessing that you have experienced full loss of the ego at some point?
xXTange 2 years ago
There is actually a rational reason to want to help people. We have live in a society with other people. People are what help us transform cruel nature into things we need and desire.
ModelAnarchist 2 years ago
i don't care if somebody's friend dies. or if somebody around the world dies.
corpsevomitor 2 years ago
Yes. I have though this for some time.
RaddNiner 2 years ago
don't criticize anyone for anything, ever, because you yourself are guilty of everything, always?... that's what you seem to be saying towards the end of this video, but doesn't that contradict what you said in your previous videos?
TheDastardlyDildo 2 years ago
i like!
ShespeaksUC 2 years ago
will you ever consider doing Q & A again Luke?
Imbealkariel 2 years ago
Enjoyed your thoughts on this, thanks for sharing! :D
GeraldP1983 2 years ago
GeraldP1983, do you remember that political science teacher, i think back in 2007, who was critiquing communism and talking about how every act that we do has some level of selfishness involved in it, and that made you want to think about what acts involved selflessness? Does it seem to you Luke is addressing those same questions with this vid? If someone knows that a selfless act brings profound internal transformation and true happiness, then he is not selfish when he does act to get reward?
DefiningConcepts 2 years ago
Hey! Thanks for question! I think Luke is addressing a similar topic yes! My thoughts on this is that since those who are of an enlightened nature naturally tend towards altruistic and loving minds, the ego doesn't necessarily need to be involved with love or compassion. You can be both egoless and be of a state of mind that is kind, loving, and compassionate, I don't think they are mutually exclusive, although I understand what Luke is expressing! :)
GeraldP1983 2 years ago
Well you sure are getting more weird.
detriplea 2 years ago
detriplea, when you really think aboot it, Luke was awfully weird to begin with. Do you remember the vid that began "I'm an anarchist and i have scissors." (Anarchy the musical). Probably Luke will take this one down now that i mentioned it, so take a peek at it before he takes it down to refresh memories. It's the same weird, articulate, genuine, narcissistic Luke we both love. i'm waving my curled fingers in the air around the term, narcissistic (ok, gameboygenius :=)
gaypaths 2 years ago
naw, i'll leave it up. its fun.
Luke12000 2 years ago
Sorry to sound so melodramatic, but i'm having one of the best times of my short life roaming around this place and watching your vids. This is better than any TV show; it's like an interactive suspenseful movie. There's never been anything like this YT experience, in the history of man (my parents remind me) -- an individual is recording his ideas, his growth, his creativity for people to view. It really takes a unique individual, a full-blown narcissist ;-D, to pull this off with such grace.
iViewYouTube 2 years ago 6
Kernwaffen auch Nuklearwaffen oder Atomwaffen genannt sind Waffen, deren Wirkung auf kernphysikalischen Prozessen beruht, insbesondere der Kernspaltung und Kernfusion. Konventionelle Waffen beziehen dagegen ihre Explosionsenergie aus chemischen Reaktionen, bei denen die Atomkerne unverändert bleiben. Zusammen mit biologischen und chemischen Waffen gehören Kernwaffen zu den so genannten ABC-Waffen.
MrSpammerable 2 years ago
UNBLACK ME!
herpesstud 2 years ago
I get what you're doing here. You're trying to invalidate the very concept of labeling people, by diluting the value of the labels to the point where they don't mean anything. (Everyone is a narcissist, sociopath, or whatever you're discussing for the day.) The thing is, these labels are applied to people when the traits in question stand out form the norm. Everyone has narcissistic tendencies, but not everyone are completely is so self centered that they mett the criteria to be called narcissis
Gameboygenius 2 years ago
I can't speak for Luke, but i don't think he is diluting labels (he did that on another political vid). He does like to throw around these psychiatric terms as though he is a psychiatrist, which he may be. I know he writes great lyrics using these psychiatric words. But i think Luke is trying to show how we each have elements of all these labels inside our brains, so we should not be so judgmental about others. Prescription side effects, tumors, etc. can cause any of us to stand out from norm.
DefiningConcepts 2 years ago
Gameboygenius, been thinking more, Luke is now interested in serial killers, what makes them kill. Many of us long-time lovers know the emotional fine line between killer and lover. Don't we have potential to murder when conditions become too stressful? Why are children more likely to be murdered by a relative than a stranger? It must be frustrating to have Luke's exceptional intelligence, yet get sadistic, half-baked criticism for trying his cheery best to communicate weighty ideas and educate.
DefiningConcepts 2 years ago
(1) If you think my comment was "sadistic" you're clearly overinterpreting it.
As for murdering relatives... Yes, that is true. But it also true that people with certain predispositions in their brains are more likely to be stressed about rlationships to the point that they might murder or otherwise hurt a loved one. Other people don't have this predisposition. This is what I mean by the difference between a non-narcissistic person and a narcissistic person.
Gameboygenius 2 years ago
(2) However, in my opinion, Luke tries to gloss over the existence of such a predisposition with his line of reasoning. By saying that everybody has a bit of narcissism in them, he dilutes the concept of narcissism by moving the focus away from the possible existence of such a predisposition. When someone is predisposed towards conflict with other people, we might call them a narcissist. That's what the word means.
Gameboygenius 2 years ago
(3) Also not that I'm not accusing Luke of being a narcissist or anything else. I'm merely arguing against his general line of reasoning when it comes to narcissism and also other labels/judgements of other people.
Gameboygenius 2 years ago
Gamboygenius, I am glad you are not the one(s) calling Luke a narcissist, because Luke is not a narcissist, even though he is willing to fall on his sword (admitting to being a narcissist) to make a point poetically about how we need to love ourselves first in order to love others, and to remind us to be compassionate because there is a fine line between lovers and killers, narcissists and non-narcissists. He's emphasizing the fine line and our shared humanity; not trying to muddy terms. A poet.
DefiningConcepts 2 years ago
GameboyGenius, so problem is little countdown character boxes that cut us off. ;=) I'm not a psychiatrist, although i could use one. My understanding is diagnostic term for narcissistic personality disorder (NPD) describes someone who exhibits "pervasive pattern of grandiosity, need for admiration, and lack of empathy." I think Lee Harvey Oswald, Kennedy assassin, if you were not born after Oliver Stone vid, is considered by sane historians to be narcissist who coldly acted out grandiose plot.
DefiningConcepts 2 years ago
Hi, Gameboygenius, i was not specifically talking about your criticism, just venting about what i've witnessed. On predispositions, do we really know how people get them? Are they genetic predispositions latent in all men? If so, Luke's point. You may be too young to remember news of Texas Tower massacre. Charles Whitman killed mother, wife, 14 others from high tower on campus; up to that point he was a loving guy, well-liked. Fine line: glioblastoma tumor agitating R-complex, that we all have?
DefiningConcepts 2 years ago
(3) "Are they genetic predispositions latent in all men? If so, Luke's point." Not really my point. My point is that the predispositions are individual, that is, different in every person. Some people are more predisposed towards a certain direction, regardless of environment. What I miss in Luke's reasoning is this accounting for this factor. (Ie "anyone is (almost) as likely to end up in a certain situation, given environmental triggers")
Gameboygenius 2 years ago
(4) For example, if Whitman had had different genes, he might not have killed the people he killed, even facing the same challenges. As for the question of Luke being a narcissist I'm not saying he is, I'm not saying he isn't. I'm leaving the question open, for I would need to know him in real life, interact with him irectly, to judge.
But I agree he is a poet, and inspiring at that. That doesn't mean I agree with all he says.
Gameboygenius 2 years ago
Gameboygenius, hopefully summing up cause we got to make survival income, now that you expanded your remarks, i understand your point. I am planning to spend considerable time studying the brain for a while so i guess i am about to learn what you are telling me.
On Luke, i feel he is closer to me than my blood brother, but he has little idea who i am. I viewed most of his vids, learned lots about his character, and got lucky with peek into his real soul. His soul is about as good as they come.
DefiningConcepts 2 years ago
BTW, no, i am not Bush and Luke is not Putin, just in case that soul stuff made them come to mind (Bush claimed to get a sense of Putin's soul, then their relationship plummeted).
Obviously, however, in comparing myself to world leaders and in planning self-absorbing studies of the brain so that i can be admired by YTers, I do fit diagnostic definition of a narcissist. So is that what you and Luke were trying to gently get me to conclude by using your poetic and maieutic techniques on me?
DefiningConcepts 2 years ago
See the basic difference between benign and malignant narcissism sir. You're describing benign narcissism and why it's necessary/self evident. If others are accusing you of being narcissistic, they're almost certainly referring to the malignant form, which is indeed something you would want to "change" about yourself.
EsotericThrone 2 years ago
EsotericThrone, you gave yourself a good name. If i were to judge you, as you seem to be jumping to judge Luke (a person who is so malignantly narcissistic that he took time to offer compassionate advice that helped save my life), I'd have to conclude that anyone who names himself "King of Knowledge Understood by Only a Few as Intelligent as I" must be suffering from malignant narcissism. But Luke forgives us, including me for my pompous, sadistic, narcissistic response to you. Chill, yo ;=)
iViewYouTube 2 years ago
Except that I wasn't calling him malignantly narcissistic. I don't know Luke at all.
EsotericThrone 2 years ago
EsotericThrone, I do know Luke, since the day he was born. I'm his dad. I taught Luke everything he knows about self-reliance, self-sufficiency, how to stay independent from enslaving, hierarchical forces consuming so many people and spitting them out. I trained Luke since birth to be a bold and compassionate warrior, someone who relishes the fight, who is prepared for long battle, and who never loses sight of the ultimate goal -- freeing individuals to rule their own minds! (just kidding)
iViewYouTube 2 years ago
Bravo! This had to be one of your funniest videos in a while. I thought "My Message to the Government" was funny, but this had me laughing so hard I was crying. Your narcissism leads to your altruism and martyrdom! Of course. It all makes perfect sense now. If you have no ego deaths that you don't know anything about will upset you! That line alone was priceless. And then in the next breath you contradict yourself. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
buddhagem 2 years ago
Maybe you are laughing so hard, you missed Luke's point? We share an evolutionary brain structure, and we all have narcissistic as well as altruistic impulses. If we manifest either of these opposite tendencies, why should we be so critical of either? We are all humans trying to unfold to our optimal potentials. The question i wonder about is why do you seem to be so oddly sadistic? But then that question is a bit sadistic itself, and that is Luke's point. We're all alike, so just chill, yo !
iViewYouTube 2 years ago
BTW, Luke, i posted text of vid at the website link on my channel. I think reading text with vid helps people not to jump on a particular sentence and pound you, before taking in entire vid and reflecting on overall message, not just little pieces of it. I suspect that writing may create consciousness - our thoughts concretized symbolically outside our brain and the process of revisualizing them causes consciousness. Revisualizing message via written words, at minimum, enhances understanding.
DefiningConcepts 2 years ago
If you have time, you could grab the text there and put it in your more info box here. That box seems to take quite a bit of info (not so limited like comment boxes).
DefiningConcepts 2 years ago
very cool, luke. this is where i think I'm at egoist meets ethical nihilism
Chrisnoscrub047 2 years ago
@chrisnoscurb man SHUT THE FUCK UP annoying little flea. i oughta punch you in your god damn cunt, pussy face
hey luke god bless
herpesstud 2 years ago
thumbed up.
Chrisnoscrub047 2 years ago
@chrisnoscrub047
you smell like small penis
herpesstud 2 years ago 2
Maybe it's just that anything under a microscope seems bigger. Your self-analyses have never come across as 'Aren't I fascinating' — it's always come across, to me anyway, as the best starting point for asking questions about the self, that may extend to others. Your analysis seems like an invitation to others to self-reflect.
TheraminTrees 2 years ago
mmmmmm, healthy ego food!!! Thanks dude!
Luke12000 2 years ago 2
"close family member" can't even exist to a person with no ego
Chrisnoscrub047 2 years ago
The more I watch you, the more respect I have for you. Those were very coherent, well thought out explanations. Bravo.
All this talk of loving yourself reminds me of Atlas Shrugged by Ayn Rand. A lot of your underlying themes are similar. By any chance hace you read it and/or taken anything from it?
galticus 2 years ago
I read Atlas shrugged and I know many people who have as well.
Luke12000 2 years ago
Prof Luke, you lost me with this: 0:56 And if you have no ego, then someone dying across the world, who you dont know and you will never hear of, their death will effect you just as much as the death of a close family member or friend. And if you have absolutely no ego, then it will effect you not at all. And that will be the common factor, is zero.
Maybe i'm too tired and need to reflect more tomorrow. Equation may be beautiful, but i could not grasp it. Can you help with this paragraph?
DefiningConcepts 2 years ago
The ego is just attachment to aspects of the world. So if you have no ego, you have no attachment, and you don't care if your family dies. If you care it is a sign of attachment, and that's just a sign of an ego. Does that help? For the record I think an ego can be good and bad, it just brings more suffering but more meaning.
Luke12000 2 years ago
It is funny, the problem for me is that my limbic center simply is overriding my neocortex on this matter. Ego will not even allow my neocortex to consider the possibility that it does not exist. My neocortex is trying to form a speculative thought: consider you do not exist, ego, but my ego shouts, "no, i do exist, fuck yourself neocortex." My limbic center shuts down neocortical conjecture on mater. Luke, i think your neocortex is more advanced than mine, for it can consider ego not existing.
DefiningConcepts 2 years ago 2
I forgot to consult my imaginary brain when considering my response to your clarification. I think my right-sided imaginary brain becomes inactive when i am doing heavy left-sided linguistic processing. What i find so amazing is you are able to rapidly roam around your brain areas and quickly report what is going on in there, and you do so without regard to social constructs that inhibit such revelations. I'd like to scan your brain to see if its more hyperactive than ave. brain. I'm sure it is.
DefiningConcepts 2 years ago
Or "true to your feelings and desires".
xprincexofxsavagesx 2 years ago
We all just speculate about what it's like to be without ego...Non of us really have any idea what that means.
aujuliawod 2 years ago
Lol, Osho said that if you get to lose you're ego you'll find yourself
Oedipus58921 2 years ago
Actually I think it would be fun if you for change said something really evil and selfish.
AnarchoSolipsist 2 years ago
I agree with most of your points.
I think the problem occurs when one's sense of self-superiority greatly affect how one interacts with others.
Stephen5000 2 years ago
existence is narcissism. i been sayin it.
arknihil 2 years ago 2
i been sayin' it fer 10 damn years! aint i been sayin it?
galticus 2 years ago
my sentiments exactly, excellent video mayne!
chainzdown2dadik 2 years ago
I actually was thinking that you were a narcissist yesterday, but this was a good video which explains it more. I agree with everything you said here. We are all narcissists. I made a somewhat similar video yesterday, but decided not to upload it. But, I made a slightly different one today that I'm about to upload which talks about similar issues. Maybe you can check it out, and let me know what you think.
thedefendingchamp 2 years ago
what are your opinions of ego death?
DSowns1111 2 years ago
It's great, I'm not "attached" to the idea of the ego (chuckle). The ego can be good, and it can be bad. it brings meaning, but it brings suffering.
Luke12000 2 years ago