I think bubblers, bongs, hookahs, ect are great for party smokin n stuff, but when your a low budget stoner like me, the best way to make your shit last is a small glass pipe, take medium toaks hold your shit in cover the pipe after each hit so it goes out, i see people takin these massive bong hits n shit and they blow the smoke right out, thats such a waste, if u hold that smoke in longer you get much higher :) Happy smoking
@BasjNL yeah...in 3 secounds your lungs absorb all the thc they can, holding it in longer is pontless except if you wanna loose brain cells to get high lol
@chiefbluntsmoker you would think so, but holding it in, 1 hit shots, taxi's, toking the same toke 3 4 times etc etc all seriously harms your lungs. had to throw out my bong coz it was giving my lungs way too many problems. i really wanna try vaporizers, anyone know how it feels like?
yo my man what ur talking about is a fukin water fountain it used to be called a bubbler, the thing Ras_eel is using is called a BUBBLER due to the fact that it uses a BUBBLE filtering system.... but yeah u were kinda right
You know that people call it that? Retard. Yes I know that anyone can change it. But it's true, if you don't believe me, that's your problem. Ask anyone in Oregon, Wisconsin, Australia and New England.
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hahahhahaha u called us wiggers.ur fucking white. and you are literally acting black that is a black religion you dumbass. i dont use youtube to talk shit u can call my phone for that. dude im not gonna bother you anymore but for real if you tube is ur life and you have nothing better to do than comment on my videos? thn you need to fin yourself a girl or at least some friends man
its illegal, medical is here but nothing like dispensaries or anything. were just the #1 potconsuming nation in the world, criminal charges against marijuana recreational use are very minor less than in the U.S
@ACmetalfaceDC i dont know but when i smoke weed its seems to be fround apon in canada the cops where i live dont even care or ever bust me i live in whistler bc but if you get caught with over 500 worth then they care but everywhere i go incanada they dont seem to care unless in a bulding or somewhere govermental
its not a bubbler its just 2 ash catchers seems like it would be easy for one part to come off... not with those clips tho... where did u get those orange clips? or what are they
nice you have some of the best .. i love my little bubblers and glass on glass. check this vid out if your high it might make you laugh lol watch?v=51ccJU4XRDs
if u need a dealer, everything u talk about in public use the word "Dank" for example ur walking down a street and u see a yard sale, and u see a couch that looks nice say " damn that couch is Dank!" then be like "hmm...damn i wish i had some Dank" then ppl will no ur looking and will more than likely sell to u if there is a dealer around, this only works around sketchy places, not like a church (lol) or cop station (lolx2)
lmao i saw that post. lmao this was only posted 3 weeks ago. and that grasscity thing was a like months ago. how the hell did i run into u. lmao so crazy
i know i remeber that too!!! and like i was thinking the whole time. lmao no one would do that. and i was thinking, god no one can be dumb enough to take his advice. lol so its rather the original poster. or some weirdo who decided to remeber his post or something word for word and thought it was a good idea. lmao
go to your local school, ask someone to get you a bag, then ask them to ask the dealer if you can have the number, ive done that and got like 5 dealers
i like the wide base on the top ashcatcher too that shit will never tip over on a carpet. if you live in the bay area...do you go to a dispensiary. i go to mr. nice guy in the city that place has the bomb hash!
why the fuck are you guys talkin about how much thc is transfered through jesus. i actually have a few ashcatchers and an inline. i would need one more k clip though. that gromment glass on glass joint was a good idea for amouth peice! by the way your thc chart is off "thecitadel" their is hash and hash oil that has more then that. sorry man but people decided to turn your video into a theory on thc in such...i just enjoyed the video good times!
I couldn't agree more. A couple of nights ago I smoked a fat bowl out of my bong and got righteously blazed. The next day I smoked two bowls (out of my pipe) and a spliff and still didn't get as high. It was the same weed, too.
an expirement run by NORML (im sure youve all heard of this organization) found that bongs and waterpipes filtered out more thc than they did tar + etc..
so unless you drink the bong water (and many of us have before...) its a waste of cannabis.
and hydro/aero is always going to have a higher percentage, as well as weedd with more sativa genetics than indica... i wouldnt be surprised if you would be able to grow something with even more thc perventage than that..
even though some stronger strains no longer exist, like the super sativa of the 70's..
i don't mean to criticize you bro but the only way you could get 98-99% of the THC is by using a vaporizer. a bong will give you about 80%, but it's still my fav method
The amount of THC that water filters out is so miniscule that you would have to drink ALOT of bong water, and I mean like liters, to feel anything and you would most likely puke before then.
hahaha ive done that before, but with a bong attached, smooth ass hit right, but what u need is some diffuser beads for the bottom of ur bong. only like 5-10 bucks and makes it a nice smooth hit.
i bought myself a very small bubbler today (it looks exactly like a small pipe if you cover the bulb), and i have a question about punching.
do you usually punch the bubbler bowl the same way you would in a bong (i.e. clear the bowl), or do you just put in a screen/dump the ashes like you would with a pipe.
use a glass screen for a bubbler, if you can get one other wise dont try to cash bowls cuz the clogg easy and the stem's break really easy, even from blowing through it ( i would know it happened to a friends bubbler of mine )
nice hit and it looks pretty good, but foreal dawg u need a screen for that... it just kept on kickin... good thing it was a bubbler so u didnt get the scoobys lol
I think you just went on my list of people who I want to smoke with
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jayblescashews 2 months ago
get a j-hook
greenbrad182 3 months ago
finally i see someone use an ashcatcher as a bubbler
jayblescashews 3 months ago
santalost weight?
pugskreationz 5 months ago
santa?
pugskreationz 5 months ago
Woooow
khrystal1968 7 months ago
this dudes awesome
highbanchee 11 months ago
all i can say is , future me
StraightRainbow31 11 months ago
SWEEEEEET BEARD!
StarvationKillz 1 year ago
That is awesome! Props for creativity brother. Keep on smokin.
Kurse14 1 year ago
did you break 2 bongs and put the two ash catchers together. .... Lol love it , and dont lie
Crazdbonghits 1 year ago
Chillest Stoner alive :)
skylersfsd4848 1 year ago
may i make a statment. this dudes dope as hell
xXkiller666Xxxx 1 year ago
how could i get in tuch with them?
legalizeit93 1 year ago
wats the difference between a bubbler and a bong. i really do wanna know. please dont call me a pussy noob bitch loser. i just wanna know...
conbgely010 1 year ago
@conbgely010 bong is a big thing u smoke out of and an ashcatcher is an add on to the bong to give more filteration from water
JarretJarrey 1 year ago
Gear is a great brand i've had two and they were worth the $
dirtbiker24732 1 year ago
Awesome beard!
EviLReN3 1 year ago
where did u get that adapter at
tearbear55 1 year ago
where did you get that ashcatcher that looks like a beaker?
thats sooooooo badass. great vid
Nonexistanthuman 1 year ago
1:29 he sucks the cherry through the bubbler.
orion773 1 year ago
jah
23456vabch 1 year ago
jah rastfari!<3
spitefire1012 1 year ago
why must stoners always look for the lighter!!!
MyTagYourIt 1 year ago 2
@MyTagYourIt i think you answered that yourself, stoners, implying were always high
Madvillian01 1 year ago
CHRIS HASLAM!
pktaylorpk4 1 year ago
thats awsome man
queerboy68 1 year ago
diggin the beard man
Fractalrider 1 year ago
if you turned your head to the left and held a spliff, you'd look like the zig zag man :D
sevensixtwomilimeter 1 year ago
I think bubblers, bongs, hookahs, ect are great for party smokin n stuff, but when your a low budget stoner like me, the best way to make your shit last is a small glass pipe, take medium toaks hold your shit in cover the pipe after each hit so it goes out, i see people takin these massive bong hits n shit and they blow the smoke right out, thats such a waste, if u hold that smoke in longer you get much higher :) Happy smoking
chiefbluntsmoker 1 year ago
@chiefbluntsmoker thats bullcrap your lungs filter out the thc in like less than 2 sec
BasjNL 1 year ago
@BasjNL yeah...in 3 secounds your lungs absorb all the thc they can, holding it in longer is pontless except if you wanna loose brain cells to get high lol
TheFlameAlchemist05 1 year ago
@chiefbluntsmoker you would think so, but holding it in, 1 hit shots, taxi's, toking the same toke 3 4 times etc etc all seriously harms your lungs. had to throw out my bong coz it was giving my lungs way too many problems. i really wanna try vaporizers, anyone know how it feels like?
ff11r 1 year ago
@ff11r You dont really feel a vape, you can feel warmth in your lungs but thats it, you get super stoned also...
thekushgurus 1 year ago
@ff11r feels like warm air
Elephantnuts100 1 year ago
I want to know how much it takes you to get at a good level of stonage?
props btw
Taydrum 1 year ago
i would hate hitting that shit and drop it
caboralph 1 year ago
fuk yer
twigs1nr 1 year ago
you sound abit canadian.
topbluffa1 1 year ago
This AM Static loves you !!!
thisamstatic09 1 year ago
damn nice bubbler
mr0war 1 year ago
um, no, there's a link to bong bubblers if it wasn't what you're looking for. and who in the HELL calls a water fountain a bubbler?
TheUglyPuppets 1 year ago
stoopid kid...U can drink out of a bubbler after I smoke out of it
duood 1 year ago
@ stoopkid80
You are a fucking idiot
BSi420 1 year ago
Look it up on Wikipedia, not lying.
stoopkid80 1 year ago
yo my man what ur talking about is a fukin water fountain it used to be called a bubbler, the thing Ras_eel is using is called a BUBBLER due to the fact that it uses a BUBBLE filtering system.... but yeah u were kinda right
FrankBleau 1 year ago
That term is still used today
stoopkid80 1 year ago
@stoopkid80 Lol you know that virtually anybody can go on Wikipedia and change whats written there right?
RogerM00n 1 year ago
You know that people call it that? Retard. Yes I know that anyone can change it. But it's true, if you don't believe me, that's your problem. Ask anyone in Oregon, Wisconsin, Australia and New England.
stoopkid80 1 year ago
@stoopkid80 I dont care about that, but dont use wikipedia as proof. Because its not.
RogerM00n 1 year ago
Did you read the previous comment? Until you do, please leave. Good day.
stoopkid80 1 year ago
@RogerM00n You, are retarded. And what you say is not true. That is not correct.
xJZNxH4MM3Rx 1 year ago
respect man
flyinhigh420yadig 1 year ago
A bubbler is something you drink out of...
stoopkid80 1 year ago
u really are a STOOPid KID fukin taard....
FrankBleau 1 year ago
Prove that, look up 'bubbler' on Wikipedia.
stoopkid80 1 year ago
DUDE, your so down to earth, rastaaa mun! keep tokin
411xsam 1 year ago 27
I want your hat
FoMyMusic 1 year ago 2
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hahahhahaha u called us wiggers.ur fucking white. and you are literally acting black that is a black religion you dumbass. i dont use youtube to talk shit u can call my phone for that. dude im not gonna bother you anymore but for real if you tube is ur life and you have nothing better to do than comment on my videos? thn you need to fin yourself a girl or at least some friends man
WestWestClique420 1 year ago
Lol you're pretty open about it..you like in Hollan or got a prescription?
ACmetalfaceDC 2 years ago
CANADA
speeedemon420 1 year ago
Is recreational use legal in Canada or just medical?
ACmetalfaceDC 1 year ago
its illegal, medical is here but nothing like dispensaries or anything. were just the #1 potconsuming nation in the world, criminal charges against marijuana recreational use are very minor less than in the U.S
speeedemon420 1 year ago
@ACmetalfaceDC only medical bro
i wish it was legal as recreational
Psychosomatic0 1 year ago
its not legal but u get a slap on the wrist if cuaght
iSNiPexHigH 1 year ago
hahaha
AfroNinja187 1 year ago
@ACmetalfaceDC i dont know but when i smoke weed its seems to be fround apon in canada the cops where i live dont even care or ever bust me i live in whistler bc but if you get caught with over 500 worth then they care but everywhere i go incanada they dont seem to care unless in a bulding or somewhere govermental
Xbox36oChannel 1 year ago
i support you man
TwiceRader 2 years ago
thats no bubbler thats a dubbler haha
orangejulius3 2 years ago 2
nice
jordanb1833 2 years ago
dude i need the down stem you have as your mouth pice i need one were did you get it i realy need one tell me were you got yours
legalizeit93 2 years ago
my head shop carries them ask the dudes there to order you one they work perfect!!
420mmmkay 2 years ago
This is a beautiful video! I'd like to send you some great hash CLAY! That's right! Clay! It's great shit:) yupyup
Skylerhwright 2 years ago
that beard is fucking amazing
felix200100 2 years ago 3
is that matisyahu
macdaddyo2 2 years ago 17
you can buy those clips frm any pipe shop there so wen u pull ur bowl out every thing else stays 2gether
sojaandxrae 2 years ago
its not a bubbler its just 2 ash catchers seems like it would be easy for one part to come off... not with those clips tho... where did u get those orange clips? or what are they
shenaniganz420 2 years ago
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nice red neck bich
GwoodBloodz 2 years ago
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ur gay
jilllolly 2 years ago
I have never seen a bubbler like that ever in my entire life.
stoopkid80 2 years ago
Clever, very clever. I miss my bubbler. I need to get another one.
batman61092 2 years ago
nice you have some of the best .. i love my little bubblers and glass on glass. check this vid out if your high it might make you laugh lol watch?v=51ccJU4XRDs
jel2100 2 years ago
one hit and done yo lmfao
CrAkADaVE97 2 years ago
goodbye mr rasta man lol
coolkid325 2 years ago
haha i remember when this video just came out its been a year today how weird
csmit 2 years ago
diggin the music :)
ItsATig123 2 years ago
can some 1 help me out. the guy i used to buy from stoped selling and now i need to fine some 1 new to buy off. how do i find some one?????
KongAtDaGates 2 years ago
wear a shirt that says i need a new dealer
maslabud 2 years ago 3
u live in canada, and go to Galt?? if so i can get u anything u want.
sayyay 2 years ago
sorry lad. i live in australia but still looking
KongAtDaGates 2 years ago
if u need a dealer, everything u talk about in public use the word "Dank" for example ur walking down a street and u see a yard sale, and u see a couch that looks nice say " damn that couch is Dank!" then be like "hmm...damn i wish i had some Dank" then ppl will no ur looking and will more than likely sell to u if there is a dealer around, this only works around sketchy places, not like a church (lol) or cop station (lolx2)
sayyay 2 years ago
thnx lad
KongAtDaGates 2 years ago
I remember reading that post almost word for word on Grasscity. Is that you??
mrbobsevil 2 years ago
yep thats me
sayyay 2 years ago
lmao i saw that post. lmao this was only posted 3 weeks ago. and that grasscity thing was a like months ago. how the hell did i run into u. lmao so crazy
trailerwolf 2 years ago
i know i remeber that too!!! and like i was thinking the whole time. lmao no one would do that. and i was thinking, god no one can be dumb enough to take his advice. lol so its rather the original poster. or some weirdo who decided to remeber his post or something word for word and thought it was a good idea. lmao
trailerwolf 2 years ago
oh wait it is him,. just read one reply down... wow i cant believe this,. im so high. what are the odds of all this shit. ahh im so happy.
trailerwolf 2 years ago
go to your local school, ask someone to get you a bag, then ask them to ask the dealer if you can have the number, ive done that and got like 5 dealers
misterpoody 2 years ago
holy fuckin shit where did u get that contraption
VivaLaRasta2009 2 years ago
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KongAtDaGates 2 years ago
long live 10 ft
devivo420 2 years ago
lol its more work rolling a blunt then putting these pieces together not to mention how much bud you will save.
JJFatty422 2 years ago
srry bt ill nvr smk sum shit like that ever in my life!! id rather smoke outta a blunt then have to hold up a pipe over my head, ya digg?
santiago405918 2 years ago
You get a better hit with a bong. Whatever it's your weed that you're wasting bud. Ya digg?
TurbooMan 2 years ago
i alreadyy know its just that i wouldent go thru all the work holding it over my head ya feel me?
santiago405918 2 years ago
Ya I understand what you mean, but still, when we're talking about getting higher, i'll pretty much do anything lmao.
TurbooMan 2 years ago
tru i feel ya, but i havent smoked in so long cause probation, but if it got me higher yea i guess i would do it
santiago405918 2 years ago
haha cool man :)
zzzmarcuszzzllla 2 years ago
i like the wide base on the top ashcatcher too that shit will never tip over on a carpet. if you live in the bay area...do you go to a dispensiary. i go to mr. nice guy in the city that place has the bomb hash!
zObdayzzz 2 years ago
why the fuck are you guys talkin about how much thc is transfered through jesus. i actually have a few ashcatchers and an inline. i would need one more k clip though. that gromment glass on glass joint was a good idea for amouth peice! by the way your thc chart is off "thecitadel" their is hash and hash oil that has more then that. sorry man but people decided to turn your video into a theory on thc in such...i just enjoyed the video good times!
zObdayzzz 2 years ago
why to be clever
wbfw 2 years ago
erm? where da hell is his bong? the pre-cooler with the ashcatcher fits in a bong ...... 8-)
fratzegullasch 2 years ago
no shit it does but he is just showing how he uses it as a bubbler
wbfw 2 years ago
best fucking thing i have ever seen.
damnthosecongas 2 years ago
thats one fatty bubblerr
notinsanesk8r 2 years ago
KottonmouthSoldiers
i may have been wrong about the percentage, but it is still not true that bongs filter a lot of THC.
lpfreak1192 2 years ago
I couldn't agree more. A couple of nights ago I smoked a fat bowl out of my bong and got righteously blazed. The next day I smoked two bowls (out of my pipe) and a spliff and still didn't get as high. It was the same weed, too.
Cheesepuffs414 2 years ago
THC isnt very water soluble
dudefreezone 2 years ago 2
an expirement run by NORML (im sure youve all heard of this organization) found that bongs and waterpipes filtered out more thc than they did tar + etc..
so unless you drink the bong water (and many of us have before...) its a waste of cannabis.
anyone know if this is true?
KottonmouthSoldiers 2 years ago
not true bongs get me much more ripped then a joint or pipe.
fake false info.
Rtm182 2 years ago
joints only get like
30% of the thc.
and bowls get like 45%
bongs are like 60-70
i think.
harryboy300 2 years ago
thats wrong info dude
joints - 39% THC
bongs, pipes, bubblers - 79% THC
Vaporizers - 92% THC
Rtm182 2 years ago
oh shit. sorry. i wasnt 100% accurate xD
i just knew i was kinda close
harryboy300 2 years ago
whats ur source? bubblers/bongs and pipes having the same THC percentage sounds wrong
KottonmouthSoldiers 2 years ago
well actually i dunno but i know bongs pipes and bubblers are pretty close
Rtm182 2 years ago
sorry. i pressed the wrong reply button.
hehe.
xD
harryboy300 2 years ago
i guess thc is hella effective then... considering most weed is only 1-4% thc, but it can get as high as 8%...
getting less than half of that on average seems kind of a waste. what about vaporizers?
KottonmouthSoldiers 2 years ago
most is 4-7% thc and they found a guy in england growing g-13 with 29%
thecitadel429 2 years ago
4-7 4-8 its all the same
and hydro/aero is always going to have a higher percentage, as well as weedd with more sativa genetics than indica... i wouldnt be surprised if you would be able to grow something with even more thc perventage than that..
even though some stronger strains no longer exist, like the super sativa of the 70's..
KottonmouthSoldiers 2 years ago
its not true man
smokin herb out of a bong purifies the THC and you get about 98-99%of the THC that your herb has to offer
so smoke a bong man; you'll get higher
lpfreak1192 2 years ago
i don't mean to criticize you bro but the only way you could get 98-99% of the THC is by using a vaporizer. a bong will give you about 80%, but it's still my fav method
plumcrazypurp 2 years ago
A Vaporizer gives you about 90%
The only way to get 100% is by eating it.
Hellion12321 2 years ago
dude its all good youre right
i was a little highh when i put that up
but yeah man i love them to death as well
lpfreak1192 2 years ago
The amount of THC that water filters out is so miniscule that you would have to drink ALOT of bong water, and I mean like liters, to feel anything and you would most likely puke before then.
IntergalacticTourist 2 years ago
did u make that?
PlanBsk8rkid 2 years ago
dubbler
cairovm 2 years ago 2
double bubble
nigel1700 2 years ago
sweet beard
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mrweedman805 2 years ago
i love home engineered glass.
IBG67 2 years ago
hey guys, Do you know where else people sell gas masks besides the army surplus store?
The surplus sore in my town doesnt sell them for sum reason, and i've been trying to get one for a while now
Fatal132 2 years ago
ebay
gbaby689 2 years ago
They sell gasmask bongs at headshops bro
aSp3encer 2 years ago
hahaha ive done that before, but with a bong attached, smooth ass hit right, but what u need is some diffuser beads for the bottom of ur bong. only like 5-10 bucks and makes it a nice smooth hit.
rleverage 2 years ago
goddamn i wish you were my neighboor
FluffyAnger571 2 years ago 2
looks perfect for salvia or dmt hehehe.
atomicrooster 2 years ago
you would probably drop your bubbler on the ground instantly due to the rapidity of the buzz to get on
mrcooki3 2 years ago
Your gonna get alot more than a fuckin buzz man. more like rapid entering into the spirit realm as you are born again as a wallabe.
atomicrooster 2 years ago
lolll yea well you will still drop your bubbler and broke them ^_^
mrcooki3 2 years ago
thats a weed star ashcatcher for the guy that was talking shit about it but worships this guy. nice way to smoke hash.
theblackopal 2 years ago
what are thoes clips for?
ISWADN 2 years ago
maybe so it wont fall out im not sure though
commandocarebear 2 years ago
its for when yu pull out the bowl or wat ever yu have it attched to
so it wont pull out the downtube
skerpskero 2 years ago
looks nice.
fuhde1 2 years ago
you look like jared berman thats the worst insult ever
hardyharharyea 2 years ago
damn i like that glass...........
kingsblendblunt 2 years ago
man i gotta raid my chemistry class
HiAzShit 2 years ago
haha thats exactly what i was thinking
GodlyVayne 2 years ago
Nice dude i want one
aklgh 2 years ago
how much is a cheeeap ashcatcher? in £ pls i anyone knows, thks
matprithellodave 2 years ago
well you can find a crappy one for almost any price,... maybe even 5 if your looking in the right place
johnr1031 2 years ago
about 25 for a decent on. I think those two are gear, so they are about 25 If I remember correctly.
In pounds, that would be about 18.
fiyahballz 2 years ago
i bought myself a very small bubbler today (it looks exactly like a small pipe if you cover the bulb), and i have a question about punching.
do you usually punch the bubbler bowl the same way you would in a bong (i.e. clear the bowl), or do you just put in a screen/dump the ashes like you would with a pipe.
bapee105 2 years ago
use a glass screen for a bubbler, if you can get one other wise dont try to cash bowls cuz the clogg easy and the stem's break really easy, even from blowing through it ( i would know it happened to a friends bubbler of mine )
misterpoody 2 years ago
same way with a regular bowl
knightelf190 2 years ago
probablly a bit awkward to smoke out of but still cool
thedirtynasty 2 years ago
thts not hash hash burns alot different than that
urmom213213 2 years ago
No, thats hash. Hash looks like it falls on fire and shit. Its hash.
Sodavideos 2 years ago
dude hes gonna get sooo high
MackenzieSutherland 2 years ago
hey guys, how much are those butane lighters he has? and also the triangular catcher, how much should it go for?
SlayingMinion 2 years ago
Seems pretty effective.
MercuryLIGlass 2 years ago
nice
fallofnations 2 years ago
ten foot in the background :D
thizznewton 2 years ago
thats a nice hat
MrBuddism 2 years ago
"It's called a snap" who said snap was the official word for the ash's going threw the bowl??
hahahalolha49 2 years ago
i like the clock!
Chenderschaender 2 years ago
nice hit nigga lol respect
KiiDCutiiiE 2 years ago
nice hit and it looks pretty good, but foreal dawg u need a screen for that... it just kept on kickin... good thing it was a bubbler so u didnt get the scoobys lol
jay1012345 2 years ago
its called a snap bro
rcollins923 2 years ago
ur dumb lol
hahahalolha49 2 years ago
hahaha because thats what its fucking called.
anyone who isnt dumb and knows how to use a bong knows that sucking the ashes through into the bong water is called a snap. look it up dumb fuck.
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hahahalolha49 2 years ago
lol man the scoobyes never any good
red14x 2 years ago