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  • What's the rate for gnostic atheist

  • A while back, I shared those prison statistics with a Christian friend of mine. Know what he said? He said they're inaccurate and invalid because "people facing prison will naturally claim to be Christian in hopes of getting leniency". WTF? I told him that even if the statistics are inaccurate by a FACTOR OF 40, per capita there are STILL fewer atheists in prison than Christians. He still dismisses it. A lifetime of delusion requires perpetual denial.

  • "Asians tend to have higher IQs than EVERYONE on average-MUCH higher"

    First off, they are my MUCH higher. Average IQ for white is 100, while for Asians, it is 106. Secondly, there is a general skew that exists since many asians that are tested are from afluent and intelligent immigrant families, which move to places of higher employment. Try running the same IQ test in rural China and see what you get.

    Race and IQ are not that strongly correlated. Environment and demographic factors are larger.

  • where did you get the statistic for britain just curious. I looked up britain on wikipedia and it said that 15% were without religion not 74%

  • @JN5B11 i kno i thought that was a liitle weird so i checked too and it said 20% for the UK

  • @PayPayOkaii: The 20% are atheists but the approx. 70% are accurate when it comes to no personal god/believing in an actual god and the video does state exactely that. ;)

  • @JN5B11: Being a member of a church in Europe does not have to do anything with being religious. ;) Many European countries got state churches that ppl are literally born into and many of us just don't care enough to bother and go to the court or whatever institution responsible to give back our club membership. *lol* The numbers that matter are surveys that ask people if they are religious or not.

  • @Trampadoo right. the statistic i was looking at was from a survey

  • @JN5B11: That's weird because the article on 'demografics of atheism' says 38% in the UK believe in a god, the rest in some force, nature or nothing at all so the stats in the video are pretty accurate even though I am sure they may vary slightly from survey to survey (and atheism increases quickly from year to year, too). The video kind of calls all non-theists atheists but I am okay with that because the point is the correlation between theism vs non-theism, violence vs. peace.

  • @JN5B11: The survey I am referring to is from the Eurobaromenter Poll from 2005 so since atheism is still growing I guess 74% might be pretty spot on by now. Said poll also confirmed that by now about 50% of Europeans don't believe in a god but in a life force, nature or nothing at all.

    Could you tell me where to find the survey you looked up, who conducted it, when etc.?

  • Trouble arises when you have nothing to protect dupes from the purveyors of superstition. Our main problem is not with the poor misguided person, but with the hypocritical leaders who turn them on us.

  • Becoming agnostic has made my life so much better and further empowered me.

  • So this means that you're a good person if you're atheist? No? Then who cares? Atheism doesnt make you smarter, nor does the average intelligence of the group who follow being higher it make it more valid. There is absolute truth to all aspects of life - of that we can be assured. Dont waste your time making videos like this. The truth will be discovered one day. Intelligent Design is still a valid scientific theory, as are Naturalists' claims.

  • God is dead. (Nietzsche)

    Nietzsche is dead(God)

    Nietzsche existed (Röcken birth records, year 1844)

  • ATHEISM FTW!!!! Praise Darwin! humanity still has a chance!

  • Christians aren't posting because they don't like to deal with real things like statistics, facts and scientific method.

  • That's basically how it works with most american protestants and muslims from all over the world I've seen in the internet....

  • Trying to convince religious people is useless...

    "All evidences point that evolution....."

    "EVOLUTION IS EVIL !!! WAAAAH ALLAH AKHBAR!!!! KILL INFIDELS!!!"

    "Statistics clearly show that...."

    "STATISTICS ARE FALSE !!! WAAAAH ALLAH AKHBAR!!! KILL INFIDELS!!!"

    "Countries with less religion are...."

    "ALLAH AKHBAR!!!! JESUS AKHBAR!!! ME NO LISTEN !!! KILL INFIDELEELEEBLEEEEEAAAH!"

    "Because, here, in Europe..."

    "EUROPE IS FAKE WAAAAAH! CHRISTJESUSMUHAMMADALLAH!!!!WA­AAAAH!"

  • Nice false statistics, are you upset that you're outnumbered?

    Get over it and go live your life.

  • @XCHAPYEG Logical fallacy: Argumentum ad populum.

  • THE EXTRAORDINARILY SUPREMELY INTELLIGENTLY DESIGNED UNIVERSE REQUIRES AN EXTRAORDINARILY SUPREMELY INTELLIGENT DESIGNER. When the Lights get turned on by the Lord the darkness of Atheism will go away, and you will be able to understand more clearly what is really happening in the world you live in.

  • @MegaSage007 how can you say there is a god without even knowing enough about the universe to come to that conclusion?

  • @OyonTheAdept Science is not the path to enlightenment.

  • @MegaSage007 science bases it's ideals on empirical evidences- things that pertain to reality. in other words, empirical evidences can be measured.

    if you think knowing about the universe with realistic measurements is not enlightening, that's fine too. but don't go off ranting about how there is a god and you know it.

    come back with actual facts and we might have a good enough discussion.

  • @OyonTheAdept That which is unseen is greater than that which is seen.

  • @MegaSage007 I know Zeus exists.

  • @MegaSage007

    "THE EXTRAORDINARILY SUPREMELY INTELLIGENTLY DESIGNED" designer "REQUIRES AN EXTRAORDINARILY SUPREMELY INTELLIGENT DESIGNER."

    i can do it too :D

  • Ron Paul 2012

    Abolish the State

  • Athiests bitch a lot more than non-athiests.

  • Rejecting a religious doesn't make you smarter, it simply opens your mind so that you can think clearly.

  • statistics, manipulation of christians, Jesus preaching are nonsenses, Atheists say all this things to keep their convenience in their life style up and running without no `blockage no matter what they believe God's patience will always wait for them to turn around and be saved, but if they died without conversion they will inherit eternal damnation, but since they don't believe they will be lost in dark, I reather be manipulated in being Christian then being manipulated in being atheist

  • @jdelta2136

    Wut.

  • @jdelta2136 Thank you for providing proof for this video.

  • how come this video is always taken down and posted back up later? this is the fourth time i've favorited it in one year.

  • ...Am I interpreting wrong? or is it that Barna has changed or omitted part of their statements to sound more favorable for christians after having received criticism from their own community? because if thats the case, I'll stick to what's more likely to be tru; the initial and uncompromised results.

  • hey, im in favor of the vid but something is not adding up. i went to the Barna page to confirm stats and they seem to be different than what u have on the vid. On their page it says "Thirty percent of atheists and agnostics had been married and subsequently divorced. However, the three-point difference from the national average was within the range of sampling error, suggesting that their likelihood of experiencing a dissolved marriage is the same as that of the population at-large"

  • Dude, these correlations are just awful... Reason crime rates are low, and education is high is because of the fact that these are 1st world countries that have a great infrastructure... Correlation does not equal causation... Just because there is a correlation between Ice Cream sales going up and Homicide does not mean Ice Cream causes Homicides... Perhaps the third correlation Summer Time would link the two.Yes I am Christian and no I will not argue, I accept all faiths...

  • @dannyp1162 Alright, i'm not gonna argue either. i just wanted to point out that it's hypocritical of you to write that u accept all faiths when accepting another religion is denying your own. Also, there is no need for causing agent to be specifically identified because if a certain combination of ingredients obtains good results vs another, who cares about the intricacies of how!? (in this context. I don't think the same about primordial soup. There I require something more substantial)

  • @handom85 You misunderstood me, when I said I accept all faiths, it means I am willing to look at you for who you are overall, not by your faith. Bible says to love all, and I will do that. Well, would you like it if I were to say the U.S is declining in intelligence, and power as atheism prospers in it. I'm pretty sure our education system is much weaker then the past, not going to get any info, but we both know this is a common fact. But I doubt Atheism has to be the reason for it.

  • @dannyp1162 ok, Im not proud so i have no problem in being corrected about my misinterpretation of ur "i accept all faiths" statement. my bad, I totally agree that atheism isnt responsible for the poor quality of education in the US (in comparison to the top performing school systems of Singapore, Finland, and South Korea) because the skeptic nature of atheism leads to more in depth criteria, thus enabling the attainment of correct data/knowledge.

  • @dannyp1162 The US is a third world country now?

  • song is rob D - clubbed to death

  • Great video. Subbed!

  • The fact that atheists are less likely to divorce suprised me. I thought that at least a decent ammount of christians would abide by their rules.

  • @raydredX welcome to the light, the real truth. there's much more that might surprise u. Societal health in general is better off in a more secular setting, as the vid says. There are plenty of reputable sources that indicate the same thing.I hope this is just the start of ur journey towards enlightenment, for the sake of urself and humanity. Keep going. Ur on the right path to removing the shroud off ur eyes. good luck.

  • @handom85 Thanks for the incentive but... I'm not religious at all. ;)

  • @raydredX oops. sorry. I just find the idea of a non religious person being surprised by the stat, odd. Its a 1st time for me, but good for you :)

  • @handom85 I guess I expected too much of people. All others stats seemed fine for me(I think... I've seen this video sometime ago, I can't remember them all), but this one is specific looked pretty interesting to me because supposedly the true christian "philosophy" is heavily against divorce. Just seems like many christians don't give a damn about their own religion, they just want to go to heaven.

  • Religion may be for some a problem but is not the doctrine of Jesus what is wrong most likely is people that accomodates certain convinient statements to their advantages but what Jesus preached and what He came from Heaven to do is what makes many of us understand what God likes Christians to do, and atheists don't understand, only until they learn to Love God then they too will understand, not all are going to Heaven Not all are going to hell, but you won't understand that, will you?

  • @MrJdelta2136 y would any rational person waste their time trying to understand the doctrine of something that to the highest degree of certainty obtainable, does not exist? Even if it was tru, scripture ("what jesus preached", "the word of god") is mostly ridiculous. By attributing these statistics to manipulative christians is denying the nature of the doctrine in its entirety; one that advocates abominations. Its there. weather u choose to acknowledge it is another matter.

  • @MrJdelta2136 There is no evidence outside of the Bible for the existence of Jesus. Odd that we know exact dates for many of history's greatest events, but no one bothered to write down dates for any of the events in the Bible...

  • oh by the way just like God wants to save those that are lost, before they die, also the devil wants to catch those that are in love with God, so just like those that are saved already The Saints(RIP) God have them in a safe place, even if they are alive right now, God has them.

    Tthe devil does not have to worry about those that already have in IT'S pocket in this case atheists bad Christians Muslims or Jewish or whatever, I said before you may gain this world but what about the next one?

  • well I'm sorry to cut your happiness short but is not what you do or don't do what makes you an atheist is the fact that you deny the existence of GOD what makes you evil and wrong and a candidate to HELL for even believing in God does not exempt you from Hell for the Devil also believes in God what really is wrong with you is that you not only deny God's existence you laugh at those that Love God, and that is EVIL you may win the world but your soul is already lost,

  • well I'm sorry to cut your happiness short but is not what you do or don't do what makes you an atheist is the fact that you deny the existence of GOD what makes you evil and wrong and a candidate to HELL for even believing in God does not exempt you from Hell for the Devil also believes in God and still is the devil, what really is wrong with you is that you not only deny God's existence you laugh at those that Love God, and that is EVIL you may win the worldbtu your soul is already lost, ophs

  • Jesus is bullshet. I dont like how people say "He is the door to heaven". That doesn't make anymore sense than Islam.

  • i remember when the original maker of this video had it taken down now it is all over the web:)

  • @CesarPhilosophe Dude, I don't have the time to deconstruct your post(s) and explain to you point by point how they're nonsensical. Perhaps you can download 'em and find the smartest person you know there in your little world and let that person offer you some insight, yes?

  • @CesarPhilosophe "You see what I mean now? The devastating power that religion has over people to the point that it blinds them to the horrors of what it really is." This comment sounds like it came from a glue sniffer, no?

    You made some general comments critical of religion and Christianity, but you error when you throw the baby out with the bath water. Socrates said, "Truth is like a barn door; while one can't help but hit some of it, one also can't hit all of it either."

  • @CesarPhilosophe Put the glue bag down and try and make more sense.

  • @Ce "You're right, I know nothing about your life and I still stand behind my original comment." You sound like a confused person. Your original comment indicated that you have a need to have pity for me, yet in the above sentence you acknowledge that you know nothing of my life.

    As far as religion ... I'm fine with people filling up the churches on Sunday, though I'm slow to join them just because my head has to go wherever I go, so I step to the beat of a different drummer but know Jesus is..

  • @guyNbluejeans ... the Son of God and the Redeemer for the sins of many, including my own.

    My friendly suggestion to you is to "just for the heck of it" begin saying sincere prayers asking Jesus to make Himself known to you and to help you set a path for your life that's pleasing to Him, as to do this good things and peace of mind can only be more and more on their way into your life. You'd have nothing to lose and everything to gain!:-)

  • @CesarPhilosophe You say that without knowing my life history and all the many mystical things that have happened to me, including truth as it relates to Jesus and the many surrounding issues that He's about. Truth should be the only thing that matters to anyone, but if you wish to have pity towards me on account of the logic that I run my life by, then no problem; no harm with that.

  • The older I get the more I'm coming to my senses and don't want to live a life without Jesus at the center of it.

    I see that this thread has only comments with atheists posting their shots at Christians, so I guess that means I'll get the Posted Upon Approval thing flying up. You can go ahead and marginalize like that, but at the end of your life you'll still have to answer to Jesus about your life.

  • please tell me what this music is, it's awesome!  Please tell me the name of the artist and song itself, thanks so much! (I am a Christian girl btw.)

  • I haven't laughed like this in a while

  • maybe people in good countries finally have it good enough to not have to kneel down and beg an invisible being for assistance, hopefully we can all have prosperity one day..

  • I'm an atheist but remember figures don't lie unless liars figure. Everything is not always as it seems.

  • wow. This kind of vid is always bombarded with christians trying to justify their religion's immorality, but not here. Awesome 1st for me.

  • When one person suffers from delusion, it is called insanity. When many people suffer from a delusion, it is called Religion.

  • @Z4rifion Uh... you left out cults, cults are minority groups, and religion are the majority groups.

  • @DoNotLaughAtMe

    cults are small religions; nothing more. Same concept.

  • Christians are not posting because they can't dispute statistics.

  • @jfeltes i couldnt agree with you more..

  • Heheh, nice theme, welcome to reality, theists...

  • It sure is, I am so much happier now that I taught myself how to study something with scrutiny, making me disbelieve my old religion of Christianity

  • it is nice to see that you are now able to see the light =] ..

    but now that you are atheist you must represent atheism and help show that we are not evil people or sinners .. we just understand the truth and see through the bull shit.

    i hope your life is much better now that you have gotten rid of that dead weight..

    and i hope that you try and show others why we except science!

    i wish you a GREAT life !!

    P.S -

    also did you rate the vid ? lol

  • Just did =D

  • lol thanks man =] sub if you would like .. i plan on posting more vids like this and also some funny vids as well =]

  • @revowii

    You don't need to represent atheism if you don't want. You are free to do as you choose. That's what atheism is all about. Not having to listen to nobody tell you what you should and shouldn't do with your life.

  • @revowii Before you disbelieve anything make sure you use that fine-toothed comb on EVERYTHING before you accept it. If you truly look at popular cosmic event/origin of life theories objectively you can not help but begin to question them as well. EVERYONE should hold their beliefs or thoughts up to the light and really understand why it is that you believe whatever it is that you believe. Intelligent design IS a valid scientific theory and should be taken more seriously.

  • @psford1 everythig you said was well reasoned, excepting the final sentence.

  • @akolbinger Well I guess I should've said 'ID should be considered a valid scientific theory...' And I stick by that one lol. I can only imagine that we'll disagree on this one but I feel that if you look objectively at popular origin theories (evo, abio, ID) you will find that there really is no theory. And certainly not a scientific one. They are full of so much conjecture and opinion that it shouldnt be possible to classify them strictly as science. Just a thought, not trying to argue. Peace

  • @psford1 this video has nothing to do with scientific theories, who is right, who is wrong, or none of that political crap. Athiest tend to have higher intel on average is what this vid is about. The reason why this statistic doesnt mean anything is because white people,higher ed, more $, less crime stats,better socio status, better nutrition, upbring/culture, lack of disadvantaged position, and about 30 others factors ALL correalate with being athiest, as well as being white.

  • @psford1 look at the data- Asians tend to have higher IQs than EVERYONE on average-MUCH higher. They are on top of every graph. White people are next, blacks are at the bottom. This is far better correalted with race than some beleif system, and even then interpretation is still inaccurate and evidence is largely inconclusive. Y make videos with miss interpreted statistics? That's not ethical at all.

  • @ikcjjtt Oh, no. I agree with what you're saying. I understand that atheists tend to be more intelligent. But, yeah, its definitely not them being atheist that makes them smarter. I think its just that the smarter you are the less likely you are to be believe in something that seems to disagree with science. I just dont like how vids ike this sometimes seem to imply that BECAUSE someone is atheist they are inherently more intelligent - thats certainly not true...

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