Can you imagine what kinds of trouble, joy, love, death-feelings, depressions and trancendentialism you have to go through to write this kind of music?
This music is the world!!
Rach went throgh so much!! And he shared his life with us through his music!!
Cheers for Rach, for classical music and for music in general! This makes me so happy!!! :)) <3
@newgeorge. Yes, indeed! Try searching for "Part V Rachmaninoff Piano Concerto No. 4 Original Version" – magnificent ending. For some reason it won't let me put a link on these comments.
I have been listening to the original version of this Concerto on repeat (probably to the great annoyance of my wife and neighbours) and this updated version is a totally different piece. And a disappointment, although I'll have to try it again.
The concerto is less normative than the others. But the melody at 2:33 is one of the most beautiful, and most Scriabin-esque of all. Also it is modernist, at least in the last movement. The composer is playing with the form.
and the low piano grumbles at 6:55 the 3rd piano concerto 3rd movement, almost direct quote. This last movement is very simillar in orchestration and thematic material to the first piano concerto 3rd movement. possibly why it was not as popular as the second which followed archetypal romantic structure and orchestration
One of the "problems" I hear with the fourth is that Rachi never found that one great melody he found with 2 and 3. Instead, we get flash and glam, but I always keep waiting for him to bust through with that one great melody. Another thing, his original conception of the concerto which has been recorded was much, much longer, more elaborate, more "organic" but a true trial at about 1 hour and 20 minutes for any pianist, conductor, orchestra to play. Still, to me it is the ultimate!
I simpy wonder the meaning of life for someone who can create and imagine all this, I don't know much of music, but in this masterpiece you can clearly feel the vast and detailed language it represents for someone who leaves a deep clue in all the listeners.
It's not more diffucult than anothers ones. It's unpopular because the people minds it's limited! This concert it's about the end of his life, with no possibilities to seem his lost Russian again. He remains his early days in the sign church bell in the first moviment, and de popular russians dances on the third moviment. The 2o. concert was written to his wife, the 3o. to the new world, the 4o. was written to himself.
@NINOABSNABSN Дорогой Нино! Спасибо большое за коментарий о к кому посвящены разные концерты Рахманинова. И я тоже почти всегда слыхал цирковные звоны в его музыке. А народные танцы менее знакомы. Всего доброго! Леон Грин.
Many comments here on why this concerto has not enjoyed the same popularity of his other concerti. I think this piece was very transitional for Rachmaninoff. It is not as structurally cohesive as the 2nd or 3rd. But...this piece is far more interesting harmonically. I think his exposure to a variety of different styles by this time in his career (jazz, blues, etc.) had an impact in him. This is my favorite of al his concerti.
The second and third concerti really grip you from the first note and don't let go until the last. Stylistically, they also are quite different from the Fourth. My words simply cannot do justice to Rachmaninoff's profound and inspired musical vision; but many of my friends never really moved beyond the 2nd and 3rd because of how passionately and painfully moving they are.
It is my favorite of his concertos. Very few pianist can play this concerto correctly. (I believe this is the third revision of the concerto being played)
I highly recommend the interpretation by Michelangeli Benedetti. Quite remarkable.
Unlike the other concerto, if the interpretation is not perfect in synched with the orchestra then the piece becomes very monotonous and boring.
My teacher says this concert is unpopular cause it is so difficult to play, for the pianist and also for the orchestra and above all it is difficult to play it both together... I don´t know...
This is fabulous playing. There is wonderful raport beteen Ashkenazy and Andre Previn. I also love his recording of the Rachmaninov Paganini Variations with Andre Previn. Another wonderful recording.
yes, but not only to play - to listen - professional listening means, not usual:)
However there is one more "small" detail - first playing was not so successful because Rakhmaninov has surpassed expectations of public. The New Concerto was wery ...futuristic. Jokingly, but "c'est la vie".
@LCH14 Yes, this concert is very difficult to play, but that's not the reason that explains its unpopularity that got in its time. The reason is that the people was very used to listen to the 3 other concerts that he wrote, which are more romantic style than this 4th one. This last one hasn't got such a great melody as the great 3rd or 2nd concert and also have got other style, more jazzy. I know this because I read an extense biography of this great composer. Althought, this concerto is great.
I really love this recording. there is great raport between soloist and conductor. In an interview he mentioned that Andre Previn was one of his favourites when he was playing piano concertos.
Can you imagine what kinds of trouble, joy, love, death-feelings, depressions and trancendentialism you have to go through to write this kind of music?
This music is the world!!
Rach went throgh so much!! And he shared his life with us through his music!!
Cheers for Rach, for classical music and for music in general! This makes me so happy!!! :)) <3
MrAx10 2 weeks ago
yes I have decided: Gershwin influence here in plenty. An American concerto by the archetypal Russian composer. It could never quite work that way.
newgeorge 2 weeks ago
@newgeorge. Yes, indeed! Try searching for "Part V Rachmaninoff Piano Concerto No. 4 Original Version" – magnificent ending. For some reason it won't let me put a link on these comments.
domcogan 1 week ago
I have been listening to the original version of this Concerto on repeat (probably to the great annoyance of my wife and neighbours) and this updated version is a totally different piece. And a disappointment, although I'll have to try it again.
domcogan 1 month ago
@domcogan Is the original concerto anywhere on youtube?
newgeorge 2 weeks ago
The concerto is less normative than the others. But the melody at 2:33 is one of the most beautiful, and most Scriabin-esque of all. Also it is modernist, at least in the last movement. The composer is playing with the form.
drjac88 2 months ago
and the low piano grumbles at 6:55 the 3rd piano concerto 3rd movement, almost direct quote. This last movement is very simillar in orchestration and thematic material to the first piano concerto 3rd movement. possibly why it was not as popular as the second which followed archetypal romantic structure and orchestration
Rasterius 5 months ago
the octave jumps down remind me of concerto No.1 3rd movement
Rasterius 5 months ago
Hollywood_____________!
zetangie 7 months ago
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zetangie 7 months ago
One of the "problems" I hear with the fourth is that Rachi never found that one great melody he found with 2 and 3. Instead, we get flash and glam, but I always keep waiting for him to bust through with that one great melody. Another thing, his original conception of the concerto which has been recorded was much, much longer, more elaborate, more "organic" but a true trial at about 1 hour and 20 minutes for any pianist, conductor, orchestra to play. Still, to me it is the ultimate!
wantbearhug 9 months ago 2
@wantbearhug you nailed exactly what i was thinking, im sure many others think it too!
msg355 8 months ago
Perfect in every sense.It is so difficult to play....(¸.•¨¯`*•●♥Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ♥...
MsMacbeth22 10 months ago
I simpy wonder the meaning of life for someone who can create and imagine all this, I don't know much of music, but in this masterpiece you can clearly feel the vast and detailed language it represents for someone who leaves a deep clue in all the listeners.
jpcg7106 10 months ago
8:11
Perfection. It's absolute musical perfection!
SondheimFanatic1 1 year ago
It's not more diffucult than anothers ones. It's unpopular because the people minds it's limited! This concert it's about the end of his life, with no possibilities to seem his lost Russian again. He remains his early days in the sign church bell in the first moviment, and de popular russians dances on the third moviment. The 2o. concert was written to his wife, the 3o. to the new world, the 4o. was written to himself.
NINOABSNABSN 1 year ago
@NINOABSNABSN Дорогой Нино! Спасибо большое за коментарий о к кому посвящены разные концерты Рахманинова. И я тоже почти всегда слыхал цирковные звоны в его музыке. А народные танцы менее знакомы. Всего доброго! Леон Грин.
Leon1949Green 11 months ago
Ashkenazy and Rachmaninoff are god-like.
mmoynan 1 year ago
I really like the way Ashkenazy plays this.
cattleman6420012000 1 year ago
I really love this playing and interpretation. He plays with wonderful musical flair.
cattleman6420012000 1 year ago
than you, now I've heard em all!
richclayderman 1 year ago
ashkenazy plays this just about perfectly. some interpretations use way too little rubato but ashkenazy uses the perfecct amount in certain spots.
JWarwicksoccer 1 year ago
absolutely perfect!!!!!!!!!!!
MegaTomco 1 year ago
amazing!!!ha!
uklin1990 1 year ago
Many comments here on why this concerto has not enjoyed the same popularity of his other concerti. I think this piece was very transitional for Rachmaninoff. It is not as structurally cohesive as the 2nd or 3rd. But...this piece is far more interesting harmonically. I think his exposure to a variety of different styles by this time in his career (jazz, blues, etc.) had an impact in him. This is my favorite of al his concerti.
Stoneyridger 1 year ago
The second and third concerti really grip you from the first note and don't let go until the last. Stylistically, they also are quite different from the Fourth. My words simply cannot do justice to Rachmaninoff's profound and inspired musical vision; but many of my friends never really moved beyond the 2nd and 3rd because of how passionately and painfully moving they are.
TehYif 2 years ago
2:32-3:10...pure bliss. I don't know if I've ever heard anything as beautiful as these 38 seconds.
clyvemontague 2 years ago
@clyvemontague
What about 4:34 to 4:44?
ThaSchwab 1 year ago
It is my favorite of his concertos. Very few pianist can play this concerto correctly. (I believe this is the third revision of the concerto being played)
I highly recommend the interpretation by Michelangeli Benedetti. Quite remarkable.
Unlike the other concerto, if the interpretation is not perfect in synched with the orchestra then the piece becomes very monotonous and boring.
Great interpretation.
dmburke007 2 years ago
This movement defined how Rachmaninov was later influenced by American music. If you listen closely, you can hear bits of jazz.
84Fish48Fish 2 years ago
Absolutely brilliant...
My teacher says this concert is unpopular cause it is so difficult to play, for the pianist and also for the orchestra and above all it is difficult to play it both together... I don´t know...
LCH14 2 years ago 18
This is fabulous playing. There is wonderful raport beteen Ashkenazy and Andre Previn. I also love his recording of the Rachmaninov Paganini Variations with Andre Previn. Another wonderful recording.
cattleman6420012000 2 years ago
@LCH14
yes, but not only to play - to listen - professional listening means, not usual:)
However there is one more "small" detail - first playing was not so successful because Rakhmaninov has surpassed expectations of public. The New Concerto was wery ...futuristic. Jokingly, but "c'est la vie".
ivpo 10 months ago
@LCH14 Yes, this concert is very difficult to play, but that's not the reason that explains its unpopularity that got in its time. The reason is that the people was very used to listen to the 3 other concerts that he wrote, which are more romantic style than this 4th one. This last one hasn't got such a great melody as the great 3rd or 2nd concert and also have got other style, more jazzy. I know this because I read an extense biography of this great composer. Althought, this concerto is great.
MisterAlbertoPiano 6 months ago
this is probably my favorite movement out of any of his concertos. i dont know why its not popular at all it.. its amazing!
JWarwicksoccer 2 years ago 5
I really love this recording. there is great raport between soloist and conductor. In an interview he mentioned that Andre Previn was one of his favourites when he was playing piano concertos.
cattleman6420012000 2 years ago
Only 484 views. Wow, this really IS his least popular concerto. I personally love it.
ProkofievRules 2 years ago 5
Fantastic! Thank u for sharing
Necroman666 3 years ago
The finalle is very difficult!
HellenicMagic 3 years ago 3
Yes, but i think concerto d minor is more diffucult.
I have no idea why this concerto is so unpopular :(
davidbnpl 2 years ago
Thank you for Sharing !
BPanther 3 years ago 13