I can relate to your feelings for doing public speaking. However I do think you speak very well despite as you say this tendancy to "fry". I remember Richard Nixon had a real deep "fry" in many of his speeches. I found it was used as some sort of technique (indicating he was being thoughtful). Oh and Henry Kissinger did it very often as well.
You sure do have vocal fry - I got here by serarching YouTube for the term- you're very high up on the list, so I suppose you're a poster child for it now. But fear not!
According to the New York Times:
"Young Women Often Trendsetters in Vocal Patterns"
"They’re, Like, Way Ahead of the Linguistic Currrrve"
Basically it says that flamboyant speech patterns are a good thing, suggesting empowerment and sensitivity. So I suppose you can fry if you want to!
vocal fry isn't a flaw. it's cute, and a neat way to emphasise the lowest registers. it's relatively new as a widespread speech phenomenon so i can see why an academic would look down, but i think ashley has mastered something useful
mostly, public speaking is relax, and know your content backwards
It must be hard to speak with a vocal fry. I tried to do it myself, but just couldn't. How do you do it? I read an article in the paper about vocal fry, and searched for it on Google and found this video. Thank you for demonstrating the vocal fry, even though that wasn't your intention, I'm sure.
I assume that you're probably done with this class already but I realized that everyone is as nervous as you in the class and they are not really paying attention to your speech because they are too worried about their own. Also as soon as you sit down and the next person goes, everyone will forget how you did.
You're worried about following the outline. That's what it is. Outlines are a pain because you have to follow them so you remember what to say. It's speaking, while reading and pausing to find your place...it's a pain. You feel constricted by it because you can't just ad-lib and be yourself. Pretend like you're singing the words in your head. Speak them, but PRETEND you're singing them...like in a musical This will help you be more light hearted and you can relax more. Blessings!
Just leave out the vocal fry. You sound horrible. Is it possible for you to say one sentence without the vocal fry? You did it when you were 'almost yelling' so good job for that few 'clear' words. God bless you. Take off the make up also. It looks hidios. YOU ARE BEAUTIFUL WITHOUT THE MAKEUP AND VOCAL-FRY. God bless you for trying to do better
This is what I've listened from you talking. on :57 "class" and on 3:06 "better" are just the two examples I heard, but there may be more. Here your words are heard as "vocal fry" or sort of like burping the words out, because of how low you sound. The first time I noticed this phenomenon was around 1997 and is mostly on girls. Girls from this generations are speaking with such low voices, especially when they are together. When the girls are at home, they tend to do it less.
Came here trying to figure out what this vocal fry thing is after reading news articles about it. Still not sure I understand it. Supposedly its creeping into speech patterns of the young teens, but I'm not around any to notice this. What is it exactly? That high pitched almost whine at the end of sentences that makes it sound like they are ending with a question mark? Now I wonder if I speak this way as my voice pattern has changed, but I think I speak deeper now. Confusing...
Push from the diaphragm and relax your vocal chords, like a classical singer. In this manner, you can project your voice with greater volume without straining or screaming. You can also find the pitch where you jaw responds with sympathetic vibrations. That will add to the resonance. Rooms themselves also resonate louder to certain frequencies. Speak crisply. Hope that helps.
aww..i kno how u feel hon,i got the same pooey problem... i juz try n imagine everyone in the class in their underpants with a dunce cap on...and then i start my speech..helps a bit :P
Check this out... languagelog.ldc.upenn.edu/nll/?p=3626 it's about vocal fry. I was looking for a sample of what the article was talking about and found your video! Maybe you'll be a youtube star.
I feel like vocal fry is one of those thing that you don't notice until you do, and then you notice it all the time. I don't see why it's bad, though.
I've experienced the breathing difficulties you describe... I have no idea why it happens, but it's terribly frustrating. It happens to me on the phone.
vocal fry MAKES ME CRAZY! I HATE IT! I don't know why. This girl's isn't SO bad. I've heard a lot worse. I can't even take people seriously who speak with it. It's awful. I know. I'm a bad person.
Use research on growing use of "vocal fry" among your demographic as evidence for its acceptability among speakers nowadays. I wonder if this professor knows what Esperanto is?
Found this video after reading about vocal fry on slashdot (the audio sample in the storylink there did not work so I youtubed it). I agree with the article that most girls talk like that now. Its like a trailing off that suggests a worldly dispair like there is more that could be said but it is too tiresome to continue the thought. Lots of girls used to finish every sentence with a rising intonation like they were asking a question with every sentence.
You're going to be flooded with comments from people who just read about vocal fry on Slashdot! Yes, I hear your voice trailing off... a sudden plunge in pitch and volume, and a gravelly timbre -- at the end of many words and the entire final word of most sentences. Good on the prof calling your attention to it!
I read an article on slashdot about "vocal fry" becoming common in the speech patterns of young adults. If you google "vocal fry slashdot" you can find it. Anyway, I was trying to find a sample of what that sounds like which is how I came across your video.
So although I guess it isn't desirable in public speaking I guess it is pretty common among your age group. Although I think it is something I've done all my life too so I don't think it is just among young people...
Hi Ashley, i do the red face thing to. i found that if i really keep focus on what I'm saying I'll get through it . I have EM too and i would like to know if you are still using methadone that you talk about and if it is still working for you. how much and have you had to increase the amount.? best of luck to you Ashley . Judy 7-3-11
I noticed, when you get louder, the fry goes away. You are using more breath to project. Try singing loud in the shower and pay attention to what muscles you are using when doing it and translate that to the speech. :)
@ashley060189 In order to be comfortable giving a speech, you have to be comfortable in the spotlight. You'll develop numerous nervous ticks if you're not in your zone. In other words, you have to go on stage as much as possible -- until it feels normal. Challenge yourself. It doesn't matter what you do or say. What matters is getting time on stage, or at least in front of groups of people -- the larger the better. Toastmasters is a great way to get that.
@ashley060189 Another good tip is to WATCH many many speakers. Use Youtube to your advantage. Watch speakers you like; watch speakers you don't like. Try to discern what it is about the ones you like in contrast to the ones you do not. Trust me. If I can do this stuff, you can do it too.
i have the same problem with the speaking issue thing.. like the breath control, and the shaky voice&all that. plus, i've got a vocal fry.
TaylorAlysse96 6 hours ago
I can relate to your feelings for doing public speaking. However I do think you speak very well despite as you say this tendancy to "fry". I remember Richard Nixon had a real deep "fry" in many of his speeches. I found it was used as some sort of technique (indicating he was being thoughtful). Oh and Henry Kissinger did it very often as well.
BootScootinBoougie 2 days ago
Couldnt understand a word.... looks like a case of Vocal Deep Fry!
aethelwulf19 2 days ago
Does she have crossed eyes?
dubtat 3 days ago
I love your local fry! Please pay no attention to your professor. He's obviously not very intelligent.
Ekdog 3 days ago
You sure do have vocal fry - I got here by serarching YouTube for the term- you're very high up on the list, so I suppose you're a poster child for it now. But fear not!
According to the New York Times:
"Young Women Often Trendsetters in Vocal Patterns"
"They’re, Like, Way Ahead of the Linguistic Currrrve"
Basically it says that flamboyant speech patterns are a good thing, suggesting empowerment and sensitivity. So I suppose you can fry if you want to!
badnewswade 4 days ago 2
vocal fry isn't a flaw. it's cute, and a neat way to emphasise the lowest registers. it's relatively new as a widespread speech phenomenon so i can see why an academic would look down, but i think ashley has mastered something useful
mostly, public speaking is relax, and know your content backwards
5naxalotl 4 days ago
It must be hard to speak with a vocal fry. I tried to do it myself, but just couldn't. How do you do it? I read an article in the paper about vocal fry, and searched for it on Google and found this video. Thank you for demonstrating the vocal fry, even though that wasn't your intention, I'm sure.
wurp88 1 month ago
I assume that you're probably done with this class already but I realized that everyone is as nervous as you in the class and they are not really paying attention to your speech because they are too worried about their own. Also as soon as you sit down and the next person goes, everyone will forget how you did.
JosephToJ 1 month ago
first minute's the reason why i dont watch female how to's.
Vermilionace 2 months ago
nobody cares about your life... just sing lol
kgirlpop 2 months ago
you're beautiful :)
paulitikox 2 months ago
So weird! Most relationships last forever always.
FAYMprod 2 months ago 3
You're worried about following the outline. That's what it is. Outlines are a pain because you have to follow them so you remember what to say. It's speaking, while reading and pausing to find your place...it's a pain. You feel constricted by it because you can't just ad-lib and be yourself. Pretend like you're singing the words in your head. Speak them, but PRETEND you're singing them...like in a musical This will help you be more light hearted and you can relax more. Blessings!
GretaCamilleGarbo 2 months ago
Just leave out the vocal fry. You sound horrible. Is it possible for you to say one sentence without the vocal fry? You did it when you were 'almost yelling' so good job for that few 'clear' words. God bless you. Take off the make up also. It looks hidios. YOU ARE BEAUTIFUL WITHOUT THE MAKEUP AND VOCAL-FRY. God bless you for trying to do better
davidlerell 2 months ago
This is what I've listened from you talking. on :57 "class" and on 3:06 "better" are just the two examples I heard, but there may be more. Here your words are heard as "vocal fry" or sort of like burping the words out, because of how low you sound. The first time I noticed this phenomenon was around 1997 and is mostly on girls. Girls from this generations are speaking with such low voices, especially when they are together. When the girls are at home, they tend to do it less.
screwsalliemaedebt 2 months ago
Came here trying to figure out what this vocal fry thing is after reading news articles about it. Still not sure I understand it. Supposedly its creeping into speech patterns of the young teens, but I'm not around any to notice this. What is it exactly? That high pitched almost whine at the end of sentences that makes it sound like they are ending with a question mark? Now I wonder if I speak this way as my voice pattern has changed, but I think I speak deeper now. Confusing...
AngelaA81410 2 months ago
@AngelaA81410 she does it on every sentence... and explains it by 1:40
at the end her voice gets cracky and that's vocal fry.
squirrelmanish 2 months ago
@AngelaA81410 right!!!
CxiLegend 2 months ago
Push from the diaphragm and relax your vocal chords, like a classical singer. In this manner, you can project your voice with greater volume without straining or screaming. You can also find the pitch where you jaw responds with sympathetic vibrations. That will add to the resonance. Rooms themselves also resonate louder to certain frequencies. Speak crisply. Hope that helps.
littlewhiteshadows1 2 months ago
When I hear vocal fry, I think....Juno
I got through speech class by drinking heavily, not that I recommend that, of course.
carabela125 2 months ago
You're so adorable! I have the same fear of speaking problem :/
Love,
Sarah
bloominwild7 2 months ago
aww..i kno how u feel hon,i got the same pooey problem... i juz try n imagine everyone in the class in their underpants with a dunce cap on...and then i start my speech..helps a bit :P
funkybizkit24 2 months ago
Goddamn that vocal fry sounds awful, you're lucky you're not getting an F. Anyway your speech professor could get you to just stfu?
borlan100 2 months ago
Check this out... languagelog.ldc.upenn.edu/nll/?p=3626 it's about vocal fry. I was looking for a sample of what the article was talking about and found your video! Maybe you'll be a youtube star.
ngara23 2 months ago
I feel like vocal fry is one of those thing that you don't notice until you do, and then you notice it all the time. I don't see why it's bad, though.
squidpants 2 months ago
I've experienced the breathing difficulties you describe... I have no idea why it happens, but it's terribly frustrating. It happens to me on the phone.
618033988749 2 months ago
vocal fry MAKES ME CRAZY! I HATE IT! I don't know why. This girl's isn't SO bad. I've heard a lot worse. I can't even take people seriously who speak with it. It's awful. I know. I'm a bad person.
Commentary1984 2 months ago
Use research on growing use of "vocal fry" among your demographic as evidence for its acceptability among speakers nowadays. I wonder if this professor knows what Esperanto is?
bogblastallofyou 2 months ago
slashdot sent me here. Thx for demonstrating vocal fry =P
frankzhlew 2 months ago 13
Found this video after reading about vocal fry on slashdot (the audio sample in the storylink there did not work so I youtubed it). I agree with the article that most girls talk like that now. Its like a trailing off that suggests a worldly dispair like there is more that could be said but it is too tiresome to continue the thought. Lots of girls used to finish every sentence with a rising intonation like they were asking a question with every sentence.
qualityassurancedept 2 months ago 4
Slashdot effect. Yep, you have vocal fry bad.
DragNetJoe 2 months ago
You're going to be flooded with comments from people who just read about vocal fry on Slashdot! Yes, I hear your voice trailing off... a sudden plunge in pitch and volume, and a gravelly timbre -- at the end of many words and the entire final word of most sentences. Good on the prof calling your attention to it!
LumiereBrothers 2 months ago 4
I read an article on slashdot about "vocal fry" becoming common in the speech patterns of young adults. If you google "vocal fry slashdot" you can find it. Anyway, I was trying to find a sample of what that sounds like which is how I came across your video.
So although I guess it isn't desirable in public speaking I guess it is pretty common among your age group. Although I think it is something I've done all my life too so I don't think it is just among young people...
EvilSpudBoy 2 months ago
google vocal fry creeping into us speech
gwythaint 2 months ago
yes, I hear the vocal fry
gwythaint 2 months ago
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Hi Ashley, i do the red face thing to. i found that if i really keep focus on what I'm saying I'll get through it . I have EM too and i would like to know if you are still using methadone that you talk about and if it is still working for you. how much and have you had to increase the amount.? best of luck to you Ashley . Judy 7-3-11
ikemen1 8 months ago
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ikemen1 8 months ago
I believe I'm the only one on earth that is actually happy being single. Lol
PsychoticButcher 8 months ago 5
@PsychoticButcher Hey, I like being single too! :-p Never said it was a bad thing. Just awkward at first.
ashley060189 8 months ago 5
@PsychoticButcher I bet you're male.
sweetbutdaring 3 months ago
@PsychoticButcher Strong username to post content ratio.
gpl992 2 months ago
@PsychoticButcher Yep thats a excuse in every 12 yr olds life
3XpL0SiVe 2 months ago
I noticed, when you get louder, the fry goes away. You are using more breath to project. Try singing loud in the shower and pay attention to what muscles you are using when doing it and translate that to the speech. :)
rednecktrucker1969 10 months ago 9
@rednecktrucker1969 Thanks for the feedback! :-)
Yes, I've noticed that using more "diaphragm" helps the "vocal fry."
ashley060189 10 months ago
Stagetime, stagetime, stagetime
anzwertree 10 months ago
@anzwertree Can you specify?
ashley060189 10 months ago
@ashley060189 In order to be comfortable giving a speech, you have to be comfortable in the spotlight. You'll develop numerous nervous ticks if you're not in your zone. In other words, you have to go on stage as much as possible -- until it feels normal. Challenge yourself. It doesn't matter what you do or say. What matters is getting time on stage, or at least in front of groups of people -- the larger the better. Toastmasters is a great way to get that.
anzwertree 10 months ago
@anzwertree I will definitely keep that in mind. :-)
I suppose the only way to eliminate a fear is to face it, eh?
ashley060189 10 months ago
Toastmasters helped me a lot with public speaking
anzwertree 10 months ago
@anzwertree I'm actually in the process of investigating Toastmasters. :-)
ashley060189 10 months ago
@ashley060189 Another good tip is to WATCH many many speakers. Use Youtube to your advantage. Watch speakers you like; watch speakers you don't like. Try to discern what it is about the ones you like in contrast to the ones you do not. Trust me. If I can do this stuff, you can do it too.
anzwertree 10 months ago