ICS L86 A2 Review

[trekonbt]

can you put a madbull daniel defense rail on it while still keeping the support beam/ bipod beam?

[CQBRadio]

@trekonbt Good question - I actually sold this guy a while back so I can't tell you. Sorry man.

[armstrongliam]

i just got this gun and it is the sexyest gun everrrrrrrrrrrrrr!

[oneshoty2]

how much does this gun way

[armstrongliam]

@oneshoty2 like a good 10-11 pounds depending on bbs and battery

[oneshoty2]

its 350$ on evike.com

[DizzyMan24]

Do want.

[xTREGGAx]

i remember learning about and shooting this weopon we were told tht it cud never be replaced as its a really good support weopon in your section as your two gunners could cut anyone in half with the susat attachment from quite a range away

[ohFrags]

i gun is nasty AKA (Awesome) i ordered it and i got it for 150$

[LLLLuuuuKKKeeee]

Its beautiful and so ugly at the same time

[xColdblooded95x]

How are the stock internale on this weapon? Also, how is the accuracy? Would you recommend a tight-bore barrel? Thanks.

[yessthisisthebest]

LSW dum dum, Light-Support-Weapon, i'vfeused the real thing

[killrat55]

Can a 9.6v 1600 mah nun chuck battery fit in their?

[MrCrazyxbox]

congrats on a great review man.

everything spot on except you forgot to mention the adjustable FPS :)

[onehandedphr33k]

Good review! How much does this gun weigh?

[onehandedphr33k]

Good review!

[scramble0gamble]

Evike.com

$350

[yaleydr]

quick question. i cant tell if it has it or not, and i havent heard anything about it. is there a rail beneath the carrying handle?

[CQBRadio]

@yaleydr No, but a rail was included with mine.

[DizzyMan24]

400 dollars?????? thats it? I saw the same gun here in Canada on a website, for SEVEN HUNDRED DOLLARS! 700!

You guys are lucky that airsoft is legal in the US

[christower50]

@DizzyMan24 Yeah some canadian laws are retarded although you dont need the orange flash hider

[britishshock]

DO YOU KNOW IF YOU CAN SWITCH OUT THE OUTER BARREL WITH THE SHORTER L85 OUTER BARREL ???

[sc3n3cor3]

airsoft is lame

[RiseOfImprov]

Does anyone know if the sling on the hand gaurd can go to the other side

[hellfireinator]

I adore this gun but it's a bit big for me ( I prefer smgs like mod5ks and mp40s)

[DuckSmuggler1]

i am training in the army and use these on a regular basis and this is very real and you the first person iv seen to get everything right well done

[MarkTools]

In the real thing, vertical grip is used while shoting from prone position, not while standing.

[spike6822]

I live in the UK, how would i go about getting one over here and what price will i be looking at in pounds?

[RIFLES2J]

Nice review, im really not an airsoft person, but i want one.. Ive fired this many times as im a rifleman in the British Army, the sights are good all the working parts in the TMH (the main body) are pretty cool, are you gunnu get some sights?? if you do get a SUSAT, there really nice and is what the actually have on the LSW & SA80 in the BA :)) Thanks 

[CQBRadio]

@RIFLES2J Thanks man. So tell me - is this a light-support or more of a DMR? I've heard mixed thoughts on this.

[RIFLES2J]

@CQBRadio This is an LSW (Light Support Weapon) there is usually 2 LSW gunners per section. The effective range is around 1000 m. However they are getting pushed out of the way as newer versions of the SA80 (the individual weapon) are being upgraded. Now in Afghan, we tend to use the 'Minimi' (LMG) is it provides ALOT more fire power and is more reliable..

[CQBRadio]

@RIFLES2J Thanks for the clarification. 

[RIFLES2J]

@CQBRadio No problem :)

[schmoo1507]

@RIFLES2J What about the Gimpy (GPMG)? We use that aswell.

[RIFLES2J]

@schmoo1507 Yeah, we use them still but there getting old now and as i said, there getting pushed out by the 'minimi'. For the GPMG to work effectively and fast on foot patrols you need a 2 man team. One shooter and one feeder, where as with the LMG it is box fed with 100 rounds. I just came back from 2 weeks at Lydd training camp in Kent and i got through about 340 rounds in two days in a short training ex in the village they have there.

[MarkTools]

@CQBRadio

This gun has born as an LSW, now is used like a DMR. It has too short mags and it was too accurate for an LMG, so they changed its role (wisely, in my opinion)

[Lowtiercomputer]

@CQBRadio Since you're curious, just more information so you can compare the L86: American forces use 249's as "Light Machine Guns", 2 per squad, with 2 240's in each platoon.

[ScottishRugby23]

Does this gun have 14mm ccw threads?

[linkinpark4eva2k7]

its niot a carry handle its an iron sight ive shot the real L85A2 (5.56) and cadet version L98A2 both can be fitted with the iron sight of susat and everytime ive been on the range ive been told not to carry the weapon by the iron sight... but nice review im very interested in this :)

[hockeykid30b]

GREAT GUN!

[NoBudgetFilmz]

can you get this with drum mag like on cod6?

[NoBudgetFilmz]

i dont know what to get, this p90 or f2000?

[daytonairsofters]

@NoBudgetFilmz you cant really choose, they are all different, you have to take into account what youll be playing, field or cqb, if field, do you want a 15 pound gun that can lay down some serious fire, or an 8 pound or so f2000 that is pretty average. if youre going to play cqb, buy the p90

[NoBudgetFilmz]

@daytonairsofters i went out to a first and only event and then got a l85, armoured inf version. and i have a m203 on the way, if that dont fit my brother can have that for his m4 and also i bought the proper decent acog scope for it (the one with the pin), i go to my first even with it next year in feb so i cant wait to mow down some non acu scumbags

[ChivasUsaFan16]

MY CAT IS IN TO AIRSOFT EVERYTIME IV WATCHED SHES THERE TO WATCH TO IM GONA GET HER A PISTOL

[TheAirsoftAction]

i love it when an american talks about a british rifle its like aliens on mars.

[militarymole]

does this gun accept star magazines

[lukie117]

@militarymole works with any m4 or m16 mags

[ColinSWiseman]

Have you come accross any problem with this AEG? Im thinking of getting the ICS L85A2 and I know there is some with the Army and Star l85s

Thanks

[CQBRadio]

@ColinSWiseman Check out Deadrag Radio on iTunes - Episode # 15. They review an L85 from ICS - they have some interesting things to share. I haven't used this guy a ton so I wouldn't make a recc. one way or the other.

[ColinSWiseman]

@CQBRadio Thanks! ill check it out!

[TOXICAIRSOFT]

can someone tell me if when u take the sight off, theres a rail?

[CQBRadio]

@TOXICAIRSOFT yes, the sight comes off and there is no rail - but I was given a rail with the gun - I am pretty sure that's standard from the factory of ICS to give you a rail too.

[rubberwoody]

I cannot decide between ICS L86 and SRC RPK, my friends think the L86 is ugly but i don't care as long as its comfortable and gets the job done, which would you get if you could only get one?

[CQBRadio]

@rubberwoody I haven't used either a ton because I usually use an M4 but I find the ICS has a much better build. Range is similar. The ICS is kind of awkward to hold if you've never used it before, so I'd recc. you try it out before you buy it. Pluses of the SRC RPK - light, takes AK mags, and nice range.

[rubberwoody]

@CQBRadio plusses of the L86 other than build? it looks like the bipod is a lot better?

[CQBRadio]

@rubberwoody quick-change spring, takes M4 mags, comes with 2 hi-caps, moew unique.

[ii1RONx]

lol i thought you said mk23. I was like thats a PISTOL! Nice review.

[mantaray9992000]

to al who ask. its a bulpup rifle and the weight is at the back. as the video states, left arm across the chest to hold the rear grip right arm on pistolgrip.

if you realy want to you can hold it with left hand under the 'battery compartment' but youll probably find your aim drift upwards from standing and kneeling.

[craig13311]

i just got one today and i have to say it is a beast of a rifle

[nineonmychest]

dayummmn ultimate toy

[Leinen454]

why is there a Grip in the back of a rifle? how people can hold this?

[The54321gravityCAT]

And can you put a m4/m16 drum or box type magazine?

[CQBRadio]

@The54321gravityCAT Haven't tried - not sure. I would assume yes as it take M4 mags.

[rubberwoody]

@The54321gravityCAT technically yes, but since it is bullpup you could not put your elbow down all the way, stick to electric dual mags

[The54321gravityCAT]

How much heavier is the l86a2 than a normal l8582? Because im looking for a good support weapon, but very light weight support weapon. Im sick of carrying my big as m249 thats a peice of crap right now, and im a support gunner (and very good at it :D)

[ahadsz]

@CQBRadio, so you can fit a sussett scope easily on this?

[CQBRadio]

@ahadsz Send me a pic of what kind you're thinking of and I'll let you know.

[ahadsz]

@ahadsz ok will do CQB! And I ended up getting a real sword type 56, but Im looking for a support weapon as well

[Chudawg11]

Why the hell is there a grip in the back of ur gun

[manypersons]

is this the company of heroes music at the start?

[CQBRadio]

@manypersons Not that I know of - I got it from Incompetech Music.

[xLongShot77]

How long is the barrel?

[CQBRadio]

@xLongShot77 550mm

[mandalore1000]

could this still be used in CQB well? I'm planning to get an L85/L86 but can't decide which one to get... The L85 is good for long ranges and CQB but the L86 just looks better...

[CQBRadio]

@mandalore1000 I would recommend the L85 if you are choosing b/t these 2. The L86 is just too long for CQB.

[mandalore1000]

@CQBRadio so does the L85's barrel length compromise accuracy? cuz i'm planning to use it as a DMR lol

[CQBRadio]

@mandalore1000 L86 is best for DMR, 85 for cqb.

[mandalore1000]

@CQBRadio thanks man... oh and btw, i hope im not annoying you or anything but how long is the gun in comparison with an M16 or M4 and does the rail give enough eye relief space for a rifle scope? Sorry for bombarding you with questions...

[CQBRadio]

@mandalore1000 the gun is longer than an M16 - check out Airsoft Station for details on the size and such. There is a rail included so you can take off the carrying handle and put on a scope. I haven't done this, but it's very common to do. Hope that helps. - Carp

[mandalore1000]

@CQBRadio thanks!

[origwhokid49]

can i buy one in canada ? if not do u guys know where ?

[CQBRadio]

@origwhokid49 I'd check with Airsoft Canada's website

[Bobisawesome100]

@origwhokid49 you can't buy anything decent in Canada without a gun license or dropping about $500

[camayda]

thank you very much you were a great help!

[camayda]

can u send me a picture of the rail thanks.

[CQBRadio]

@camayda just the basic rail. To be more specific, there is no rail under the handle but they give you a rail with it so you can attach it if you want to. You unscrew the handle and put on the rail that looks like a standard pic. rail.

[camayda]

can someone tell me the rail system it uses because i need to know if i have to buy a special scope thanks!

[CQBRadio]

@camayda Just your basic rail system - picatinny rails.

[camayda]

does the rear iron sight have a rail system under it?

[CQBRadio]

@camayda yes it does

[FatherLicorice]

its $350 @ kapowwe. com

[Australiaroo]

what is the objection of the rear vertical grip?

[CQBRadio]

@Australiaroo I'm not clear - the object or the objection to the rear vert grip?

[Australiaroo]

@CQBRadio nvm you explained it in your video. i just jumped the gun on the question no pun intended

[free4eva1]

@CQBRadio all british wepons are designed with accuracy in mind the extra grip provides a more stable firing platform

[TrippieIT]

@Australiaroo it is used to pull the butt in tighter to your shoulder when your using the bipod.

[sa80a3]

@Australiaroo its for more support when firing on fully auto on the real one (also the reason for the shoulder strap) you only use it when in prone position

[KeithHPOW]

Great review of a great gun

[rubberwoody]

would the dual m4 1000 round mags work in this and is it worth the money?

[CQBRadio]

@rubberwoody If you like the L86 style, this is a great option. It's well made and has shot well for me so far. I haven't used it a ton, but I do like it a lot. As for the dual M4 mags, it would work, but the gun does come with 2 400-round mags so a few more of those would work best IMO.

[burt2800]

@rubberwoody there's also one made by Ares.

[music036]

How much does this gun way

[CQBRadio]

@music036 Weighs in at about 10 lbs. - just under that.

[Dnit8]

what kind of mags does it use?

[CQBRadio]

M4 style mags - but I'd recc. using ICS brand - some of my M4 mags fit, some don't.

[joni6145]

Fired the real version of this, The real version and airsoft version look so alike. Really the only difference is, orange muuzzle cap.

Great review!

[linkinpark4eva2k7]

@joni6145 It does indeed luck simular although ive only fired the L85A2 never had the oppurtunity to shoot the L86A2.. And know its being phased out by the LMG likely wont get to speicalise with it when im in the RAF Regiment

[tomtubridy]

Yes, but the LSW is the Americanised equivalent to what is, in British terms, known as the L86a2.

[tomtubridy]

does it not get in the way?

[tomtubridy]

It aint the British support rifle, its actually a DMR, our support rifle is the GPMG.

[wcomedy]

lol exactly. Except usually, the l86a2 will have a drum mag instead of a regular m4 mag. I got the A&K 5000 round box mag and it works perfectly.

[MrRWJP]

No it won't. The L86 has never ever been issued with a Box Mag/ Drum Mag. It's only ever been issued with standard SA80/M4 Magazines.

That's why the L86 is now used as a Marksmans Rifle... It simply can't lay down heavy enough fire with 30rd Magazines...

[wcomedy]

yeah, but the real l85/l86 can take the same exact mags that m4s can so it CAN take m4 drum mags, but that doesnt mean that the british army will spend more money for the drum mags. (i dont see why they wont, they modified every single l85a2 to have the susat scope lol) so whats an extra 50 bucks for a drum mag.... lol and whats the point of even having the l86 lsw if you cant put enough rounds down range. basicly, this gun is a l85 varient of the DMR. Dont get me wrong, this is one BADASS GUN

[linkinpark4eva2k7]

You have to be sharpshooter status to use the L86A2 although its now being phased out by the British Military by the LMG as their is a new sharpshooter rifile

[MrRWJP]

Wrong, and technically wrong...

The L86 was the British Support Rifle (hence it was called the L86 LSW). However, due to the fact it only used 30rd Box Magazines, soldiers started using it as a marksmans rifle rather than an LSW.

It was then replaced as an LSW by the FN Minimi.

The GPMG is closer to an LMG, and has only been used at Section level for a few years.

[billybxox]

Fantastic review!!!

One of the best on YouTube!!!

Follow this up with a firing test and internals guide and this would be THE best review !

Fab!!!

[DrIntrebec]

you mean 300 round magazine i have this gun its 300 round (but great vid) thats the only flaw

[CQBRadio]

They are actually 450 round mags - check Airsplat and AirsoftGI.

[rubberwoody]

no bottom rail on the foregrip?

[CQBRadio]

Nope.

[airsoftmasta102]

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[CQBRadio]

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[airsoftmasta102]

@CQBRadio ok so i wanna do the fb thing but how will you know its me??? do i just give you my username or...?

[rees45603]

definatly my favourite weapon of all time, after visiting the royal marine training base with my marine cadet unit i kinda went off this weapon coz its so damn heavy! for real id much rather have the infantry rifle version but for airsoft, damn im so pissed off iv got the l85 not the l86 lmao

[AirsoftM4KWA]

lol cqbradio n you got this big ass gun lol

great review

[IronHideGR]

anyway great review......what 400$

[IronHideGR]

The handle on the back of the gun why is there?

[CQBRadio]

Watch the review and you'll hear about it there. It's a vert grip - strange but it works well.

[asimonds422]

its for prone position mostly

[t8trg8tr]

i cant help this but...FIRST...always wanted to do that

nice review

[IronHideGR]

a...I understand now.You hold the grip with your right arm and you hold the grip with the trigger to fire.