god bless the men in blue!!! one day when shit gets bad people will call for there help and they might not be there. the usa civilans are provided with things like vests and weapons to pretect are selfs not attack one another!!!! for things like what will most likley come on are side of the water not over seas!!! people like me and the men in blue will are who keep are side safe. idots like this guy deserve to have there nuts hack and stung up in a tree.
how one person can kill three officers that responding to a situation, were they unarmed and in plain clothes? once u r in uniform u r a target, i hope other uniformed people always remember that.
your real tough 760guy, i can talk shit on youtube in my moms basement playing with my self you pussy, you dont have half the balls police officers do, so you can go fuck yourself faggot
760guy, you are just a Youtube shock jockey. you will never be able to come face to face with men of honor and say that! You are and always will be a coward!
I would be, "glad", to ronald. But you see I know your just all talk! Oh, by the way, you woud not even get the word, "glad", out of your pathetic mouth. Let me know when your in the U.S. bro.
hey im not your "bro" wtfffff pigs arent bro. but hey this summer im coming to pittsburgh. i wanna see you and say that youre a big fat pig. and im glad that pigs dies.
Notice that every witness of what happened the first few minutes is dead yet the police speak as though the officers approaching the house did so peacefully. That is not known. They may have escalated the situation and introduced the illegal use of deadly force, causing an American citizen to believe his life was in danger.
nasty, disgusting, filthy piece of shit white man is EVIL...that piece of shit cracker will burn in hell like his ancestors...he's going to hell with a SCHOLARSHIP....fuck the CRACKER race for life..
From the officers of the Buncombe County Sheriff's office in Western NC.... Rest in Peace. Our prayers and condolences are with you, your families, and those who must carry on.
god bless the officers that died in the line of duty! god bless the families of these fine men! god bless the family of the gutless coward who robbed this earth of three fine men!
Its' funny how there's no racist comment when a white guy go on a shooting spree but when an Asian go on a shooting spree,it's "ship them back to china" or "fucking ching chong".Well all I got to say to this video is FUCK U WHITEY.
I with you on thgat one. The talk shit about any race who does a shooting, but when that white man in Indiana (i think) walked arounf killing everyone that wasn't white, they didn't have shit to say about that.
Alexin1067 you seem to be the only intelligent blogger out there tonite.The thing to do is elect Uncle Ted for Prez. after Obama Bankrupts America with his bullshit bleeding heart liberlism ideaology. 'We needto help and feed the terrorists in GITMO' BULLSHIT!!!!! Open your eyes, people here in the USA need help, But our tax dollars support sorry-ass who don't want to work cause thats the LIBERAL way! Wish Icould stay home pop out 6 babies get stoned on a Gov. check like like the illegals do.
the only thing that a ban would do, is keep the weapons out of the hands of good people. criminals break laws for a living so what makes people think that they will obey bullshit gun laws?
just look at what the 1994 ban did.....jack shit.
all these people that talk about banning guns are nothing more then uninformed arrogan, smug pieces of fascist shit.
fuck you fascist, its dickheads like you that would imprison your fellow citizens, the american people have and deserve the right to have as much firepower as the cops, its the ultimate balance of power.
and also, I am sure that if rick's neighbors were armed they would have helped the police to put him down.
I am a law abiding citizen who owns an Assualt rifle, I have done nothing wrong, don't you dare talk about taking it away from me, if you try, only violence will result.
WOW, you do love your guns! And If we try to take them from you, you'll take us ALL OUT. Sounds like your guns turned YOU into the same piece of crap that shot the cops. After a year of following these cases you could only walk away with one thing: Law ABIDING PEOPLE ARE CERTAINLY AS GOOD AT SHOTTING INNOCENT PEOPLE AS THE CRIMINALS. Answer this: How do we stop the "law abiding" psychopath from ruining my family and yours? -Now be useful.
i'll tell you this, killers are killers whether there is a gun ban or not, and I assure you that this killer would have had a gun either way, so to pretend like we would have a utopian society without guns in the hands of civilians is bullshit. Another thing, cops believe it or not can be corrupt and abusive of their power so a society where only cops carry guns is a tyranical society.
how do we stop a psychopath from ruining families, simple, defend yourself, preferably with a gun.
Like I said, the gov is not going to take your guns. STOP YOUR PARANOIA. I'm sure YOU AND PEOPLE LIKE YOU will be over the edge well before I. Militia comes to mind. What we need to do is redirect the psychopath before its a psychopath. There are many things we are not doing in the workplace, schools and police force to identify, prevent and defend against loose cannons. More guns don't help either without training. Imagine a WILD WEST WORLD. MAD MAX IS NOT THE FUTURE. Think higher life form.
lol dude, I am not a militia militant guy, I am speaking in hypothetical. I don't do drugs, and I am not looking to whack anybody.
and truthfully, there is no way to tell who will snap and who won't its impossible trying to prevent it would mean hassleling the innocent, like I said, a well armed public is the best defense against rogue psychos.
look right after the civil war, most heavily armed society, least amount of crime.
Your thinking is not hypothetical. It's mainstream Militia or radical NRA "You'll need to take that gun from my cold dead hands". The way you pulled back in your last thread, leads me to believe your probably not one of those. But your thinking puts you in their profile. What's "hassleling the innocent" mean? People with mental issues are now bad people? AND we bother people if we identify those that need help? The future is not a MAD MAX WORLD so we don't need to go back to the civil war past
Which weapon is more nocuous, a rifile or a stabber? Could someone, except Superman, carry out a mass bloodshed with a knife in a shopping mall? Or maybe he could, if nobody is brave enough to fight back. But aren't Americans brave?
hey yxhe, i guess we should ban cars while we're at it because those have killed far more people then guns have in the united states.
and I'll tell you this, if you propose a gun ban that bans guns not only from citizens, but from cops and government, then i'll support it, till then take your fascist crap elsewhere.
Good afternoon sir, I never said we should ban all the guns. But is it necessary for civilians to have AK47s with 30-round magazine to protect themselves?
well, i'll tell you this, if it isn't necessary for civilians to have AK-47s with 30 rd mags to protect themselves then
it isn't necessary for law inforcement to have M-16s with 30rd magazines to uphold the law.
there were to famous and infamous people who supported gun control, Adolf Hitler and Joseph Stalin, they loved the idea of citizens not having guns for obvious reasons.
The only reason cops are carrying AR-15s recently, is BECAUSE they are being outgunned by criminals. It wasn't much long ago that all they carried was a 6 shot .38 special revolver.
The idea that citizens should be armed in case they ever need to "correct" goverment is an antiquated one. Sure your AKs might help you win against the police, but let's see how effective small arms are against a F-22 that can reduce your whole city to dust in seconds.
what you don't get is that you can't rule over a people that don't want you to rule.
what the hell is the government going to govern if there is no one to govern. Who do you think pays for those F22s? The people. So the government is subject to the people so long as the people make it so.
The government is subject to the people, but NOT because the people are armed and outgun them. The idea that you can keep the government in check by utilizing small arms is antiquated.
Small arms are no longer the most destructive weapons, in fact they're far from it.
Oh, and just because you make private gun ownership unlawful, does not mean the country has become a dictatorship like those under hitler or stalin. I guess going by your logic, the UK and Japan are totalitarian states.
you don't get it do you? I never said guns would make the difference, its the principle behind it, before you were making the argument that guns should be banned because they are too dangerous, now you are saying that there are more dangerous things besides guns so whats the big deal if we ban them?
your logic is flawed, yeah, UK and Japan don't have guns so yes they are one step closer to totalitarian states.
Their are more dangerous things besides guns, but not in the hands of the public. I would certainly be against private ownership of tanks and rocket launchers too.
Your logic is flawed, so what if a nation decides to outlaw them? Guns are only one object, we have a lot of things here that are illegal. Weed is illegal here, so does that make us closer to being totalitarian? The U.S. Gov. actually has more penal codes than any other government in the world.
I think weed should be legalized, in fact weed is less dangerous then alcohol. and by the way you can own rocket launchers and tanks, you just need a high class FFL.
and its not a question of whether guns are dangerous or not (we know they are) its the right to own them and whether you like it or not its our right.
you logic is flawed, banning guns would only expand the black market and only criminals and the cops would have them and that is no good.
now governments don't turn totalitorian overnight, they do it gradually so that the people don't notice.
so they count on you giving in to one thing after another, guns are the gateway.
but then again I don't think you are a person who belives in personal freedom because on your page you said "embrace socialism" so basically you are calling on us to embrace the chains of solitude.
I also see that you have a love affair with cops, thats fine, if you're a good cop who tries to make a difference (not just some asshole on a power trip).
but having said that, I find it rather funny that you are for banning or restricting guns from the people.
I see, so you want to be the only dude carrying the gun or in other words, holding power and on top of that you are a socialist, so all this corralates to the fact that you are an elitest who thinks you are above your neighbor.
Quite the contrary, as a socialist, I hate elitists (AKA capitalists). Maybe you should look up the definition of socialism, rather than go by what fox news or your conservative politicians say about it.
Socialism = equality. I do not believe that a small portion of the power elite should control 80% of the wealth in this country, while the vast majority of americans who are hard workers (not lazy), contributing far more to society than these CEOs are forced to fight over what is left.
oh quite the contrary indeed, capatalists (true capitalists) are freedom lovers, people who believe that every man should have equal opportunity, not equal wealth.
See its the PERSUIT of life, liberty, and happiness that is or at least should be endowed to every man.
You socialists believe that all men should have equality in the material sense and you would do so by regulating who can make money and how much, and I tell you THAT IS ENSLAVEMENT AND THEREBY NO EQUALITY AT ALL
on my page I have some videos of an interview with Ayn Rand, I don't know if you heard of her but she was a famous author back in the 30's-50's. And she grew up in a socialist society (Soviet Union) and listen to what she has to say about it,
but I doubt you will becuase generally guys like you hear only what you want to hear.
but none the less I would be impressed if you at least gave it a shot.
well, i'll tell you this, if it isn't necessary for civilians to have AK-47s with 30 rd mags to protect themselves then
it isn't necessary for law inforcement to have M-16s with 30rd magazines to uphold the law.
there were to famous and infamous people who supported gun control, Adolf Hitler and Joseph Stalin, they loved the idea of citizens not having guns for obvious reasons.
didn't mean to send the message twice, youtube glitched or something, anyhow, I have come to the conclusion that people who support restricting guns from citizens are either one of two things
1. way too fearful (believing in fantasy land where we can place our safety in the hands of government without any sort of check or balance)
2. tyrants at heart (who want there to be an imbalance of power where they are the ones with the power)
But the question is that in a modern society, different from the Nazi or Soviet Union during Stalin ruling period, is it still necessary to protect personal rights with weapons? Now with medias, Internet and other valid ways to demonstrate peraonal opinions and need, the character of guns in the society is different from that in the old times.
the danger in what you are saying is that you assume things have changed, I am telling you is that the world is just as twisted today as it ever was in the past. Don't think Stalin and Hitler can never happen again.
A modern society is still in just as much danger to tyranny as societies of old.
They can't so long as there are multiple sovereign nations in this world. In order for gun control to work, there has to be a government with global jurisdiction and law enforcement power. That said government can then shut down ALL firearms manufacturers, indefinitely halting the production of weapons.
I think the gun laws we have now are just fine. 18 to purchase a non-concealable firearm (high power rifle, assualt rifle, and shotgun) 21 to purchase a hand gun.
Criminal background check with every purchase, permit to purchase fully automatics, permit to sell and import and permit for conceled carry (in some states)
I personally think the current system is about as good as it gets for the most part.
but nothing is perfect, safety is never something that can be guaranteed.
Maybe the government could issue gun lecences to qualify people, just as driving lecences. The lecence should be reviewed every 1 or 2 years to insure the safety of both the owner and society.
bad idea, wouldnt solve anything. the problems not guns; if someone want to kill you, they'll find any method available to them. cars are more deadly than guns.
Guns kill more people than cars. Guns are made to kill people. Cars are a form of transportation. You should have to renew your gun license every year-- much like a hunting license.
"How do we stop the "law abiding" psychopath from ruining my family and yours?" Arm yourselves so that you can defend yourselves from such people. Buy a gun and learn how to use it.
Ahh, simple answers to complex questions. Ever wonder why we evolved beyond the Wild West. Let's buy a gun! Oh,no I need another for my car. Oh, I need another to match this outfit. Why do we even need cops? Why should we spend time trying to prevent the problem. DO YOU HONESTLY BELIEVE EVERYONE CAN HANDLE A GUN AND USE IT COMPETENTLY? The next misfire or accident or joke maybe your life. Think about what life is like in the middle east. Can YOU really handle that STRESS!
Of course you know New York is the DOG FIGHTING capitol of the world. He should have adopted some pit bulls before resorting to this. People make tons of money with dog fighting and you know dog fighting is sharply rising. The funny thing about it is that pit bull zealots WANT you to adopt pit bulls - so plenty of dogs available thanks to them blocking breed specific legislation.
There's a difference here. Sick people will use their last $200 to buy a gun LEGALLY to shot up the cops because of the economy. If your SANE, you'll go on public assistance and transition OFF. Remember, the winner in the game of LIFE is the one that lives LONGEST
and let me explain this, I am not a violent person at all, but i do have principle. And whether you like it or not, americans have the right to own guns and the day the government says we can't is the day we need them most.
And yes, I would fight for that right becuase what is living if your not free?
"the winner of life is the one that lives longest"
I guess you never heard of "better to die on your feet then to live on your knees"
Actually, I agree with your right to own a gun. We don't want the gov. to over run anything. At the same time we don't live in the Wild West. The unjustified radical paranoia over gun rights is silly. My worry is if we take a guy like you, load him up with Meth, PCP OR STRESS and there's your next rampage killer. Hmm what just happened here...PARANOID-...KILL. Your thinking-..KILL. Me-higher thinking....NO KILL.. You'll probably die on YOUR knees early. Stop paranoia and think about a solution.
"we don't live in the Wild West." Too bad we don't as the murder rate was a mere fraction of what it is today. Everyone should have a gun and be allowed to carry it.
Don't think things through do you. How would it be if we ALL had guns. Would you trust anyone? Gun fight in the doctors office, workplace, highschools and home. Sound good? Bad joke?- gun fight. Bad grade?- gun fight. I got Cancer!- gun fight. I just DON'T LIKE YOU!-gun fight. How many of these "gun fights" can you survive until GAMEOVER as a video game. How long can your family last? Look! waring neighborhood factions. I trust myself, BUT CAN I TRUST YOU WITH A GUN. Think and address this!
Ok, how about, all law abiding people should have a gun and be allowed to carry it. The overwhelming number are if fact law abiding and not prone to violence. The lack of trust on your part should have no bearing on the exercise of a constitutional right by the people.
Circular argument. How do we know WHO is NOT PRONE TO VIOLENCE. You and OTHERS would certainly rather invest in a gun than prevention. Understand the world you want to live in- My BigMac did not come fast enough-gun fight, You didn't hire me-gun fight. You may think YOUR psychologically mature/balanced to have a gun, BUT IS EVERYONE? Why would crime decrease- gangs of people with firepower would just come into your home and strongarm it. Neighborhoods would turn into factions. Middle East-Why?
Your concerns are irrelevant. It is a right to keep and bear arms. It is a human right to be able to defend oneself from others that would do you or yours harm. The exercise of our rights are not dependent on others who just don't like the right or are afraid of it. It is a rights issue not strictly a gun issue.
right wing fear mongering. it's gonna get worse this summer. with the heat of the summer, the economy still down, unemployment rates going up (everybody knows it's gonna hit 10% unemployment before it starts declining) and fox news and talk radio trying to sabotage the dems... this summer our country is going to become a bloodbath.
There is a difference between criticism and flat-out lies. This kid's actions were based on something that is not even happening. Nobody is taking away anyone's guns, nobody is putting anybody in no FEMA camps. Standing against the Dems econimic plans is one thing, but taking advantage of ignorant people to spread false rumors is sabotage, and is working just fine for GOPers. Like I said, hold on pretty tight because this summer is gonna be a rough ride.
My point being that not every single criticism should not be seen as sabotage and only those crazies who listen to Alex Jones believe in FEMA Camps. Don't start behaving like the GOP partisans did when Bush was pres.
All of this is obama's fault. Him and the left wingnuts who are spending our nation into oblivion, destroying jobs, taxing us to death and trying to take all our rights away. We need to stop obama by unleashing a republican tsunami next year or we will all be slaves to big FED.
god bless the men in blue!!! one day when shit gets bad people will call for there help and they might not be there. the usa civilans are provided with things like vests and weapons to pretect are selfs not attack one another!!!! for things like what will most likley come on are side of the water not over seas!!! people like me and the men in blue will are who keep are side safe. idots like this guy deserve to have there nuts hack and stung up in a tree.
powersmokef250 11 months ago
Thats was the sadiest day in so many peoples lifes
412magic 1 year ago
how one person can kill three officers that responding to a situation, were they unarmed and in plain clothes? once u r in uniform u r a target, i hope other uniformed people always remember that.
torryland 1 year ago
frogdogg68 one of the officers killed was black
ltago 2 years ago
wow
cyclonechickz 2 years ago
big up to the guy who wore the vest
Grittypgh 2 years ago
phuck the po po
Grittypgh 2 years ago
we cant feel bad for the cops pretty soon they will turn on us black people.these cops are gang members its about time they get what they deserve
frogdogg68 2 years ago
In prison theyre the biggest gang
youngmoney1117 2 years ago
I hate when these assholes do this. It gives the godamn lieberals another reason to take guns away from law abiding citizens!!!
drewd1987 2 years ago
Agreed. It's not the guns--it's the people OPERATING THEM.
DetectiveCrockett77 2 years ago
your real tough 760guy, i can talk shit on youtube in my moms basement playing with my self you pussy, you dont have half the balls police officers do, so you can go fuck yourself faggot
SteelersCROSBY87 2 years ago
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SteelersCROSBY87 2 years ago
760guy Your nothing but a fucking bitch
mickymac87 2 years ago
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go fuck yourself
760guy 2 years ago
I'm glad those cop are dead
760guy 2 years ago
your ignorant
AcousticAstro 2 years ago
760guy, you are just a Youtube shock jockey. you will never be able to come face to face with men of honor and say that! You are and always will be a coward!
tkgarrot39 2 years ago
yep go fuck yourself
760guy 2 years ago
hey lets meet up. because i can say that to your face. "glad those cops are dead"
ronaldinhoca 2 years ago
I would be, "glad", to ronald. But you see I know your just all talk! Oh, by the way, you woud not even get the word, "glad", out of your pathetic mouth. Let me know when your in the U.S. bro.
tkgarrot39 2 years ago
hey im not your "bro" wtfffff pigs arent bro. but hey this summer im coming to pittsburgh. i wanna see you and say that youre a big fat pig. and im glad that pigs dies.
ronaldinhoca 2 years ago
Notice that every witness of what happened the first few minutes is dead yet the police speak as though the officers approaching the house did so peacefully. That is not known. They may have escalated the situation and introduced the illegal use of deadly force, causing an American citizen to believe his life was in danger.
LivnLifeToTheFullst 2 years ago
This cop is so whiney... OH WAHHHH WE LOST SOME OFFICERS WAHHHH!
Shut the fuck up and go back to running your radar on the highway you fat whiney pieces of SHIT!
djvampyre 2 years ago
nasty, disgusting, filthy piece of shit white man is EVIL...that piece of shit cracker will burn in hell like his ancestors...he's going to hell with a SCHOLARSHIP....fuck the CRACKER race for life..
slickkapone 2 years ago
one thing about Pittsburgh is people are there for you when you need them.
the mood in the burgh has really settled down since this happend.
Rest In Peace.
29pens48fan25hockey 2 years ago
The time has come for the Pittsburgh Police to have better training to help prevent needless deaths.
runningchance 2 years ago
From the officers of the Buncombe County Sheriff's office in Western NC.... Rest in Peace. Our prayers and condolences are with you, your families, and those who must carry on.
Miveth07 2 years ago 2
Rest in Peace brothers.
OfficerDave 2 years ago 2
god bless the officers that died in the line of duty! god bless the families of these fine men! god bless the family of the gutless coward who robbed this earth of three fine men!
rockysman6 2 years ago
ok guys if we act like this they will no doubtedly take our guns away . and force us to resist. stop being stupid when the time comes you will know
mekanik187 2 years ago
Its' funny how there's no racist comment when a white guy go on a shooting spree but when an Asian go on a shooting spree,it's "ship them back to china" or "fucking ching chong".Well all I got to say to this video is FUCK U WHITEY.
IHateReligiousNuts 2 years ago
I with you on thgat one. The talk shit about any race who does a shooting, but when that white man in Indiana (i think) walked arounf killing everyone that wasn't white, they didn't have shit to say about that.
FUCK YOU WHITEY
diah4 2 years ago
get a fuckin life
Alexn1067 2 years ago
how bout u get me one.
IHateReligiousNuts 2 years ago
Sounds like the cops need more training. Very sad, but you can only screw people over so much before the wackos go .......
RSRNV 2 years ago
Alexin1067 you seem to be the only intelligent blogger out there tonite.The thing to do is elect Uncle Ted for Prez. after Obama Bankrupts America with his bullshit bleeding heart liberlism ideaology. 'We needto help and feed the terrorists in GITMO' BULLSHIT!!!!! Open your eyes, people here in the USA need help, But our tax dollars support sorry-ass who don't want to work cause thats the LIBERAL way! Wish Icould stay home pop out 6 babies get stoned on a Gov. check like like the illegals do.
fishingilove 2 years ago
such a tragedy. my thoughts and prayers go out to the families of the officers involved.
lapdog28 2 years ago
WOW,Hard times..
pass1683 2 years ago
This Fu**er is gonna fry or rote away in jail.
MrIndependent06 2 years ago
the guy who shot these brave police officers SHOULD GET THE DEATH PENALTY. if he dosn't then there is no justice!!!!!!
krbugalou 2 years ago 4
or just life in prison
sholtzrevtek 2 years ago
or maybe free health care and a roof over his head with tv and cable for the rest of his life get real
krbugalou 2 years ago
fine with me as long as he is off the streets.
sholtzrevtek 2 years ago
@krbugalou FUCK THE POLICE AND FUCK YOU TOOOOO
Durako187 9 months ago
It's just a good thing that these psychos can't get their hands on an Abrams tank, there's a victory at least.
BinkieMcFartnuggets 2 years ago
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Kill the police
Kill the whole force
smash the system
destroy the courts
Daxmcneil377 2 years ago
It's time to ban the assault rifles.
yxhe 2 years ago
FUCK YOU!!!!!!!
NoCussingClub 2 years ago
Shame on you! Watch your mouth! Do you eat with that mouth?
yxhe 2 years ago
Assault rifle bans won't do anything.
The M1 Garand is not an "assault rifle", and actually is deadlier than a AR-15.
gfreeman556 2 years ago
the only thing that a ban would do, is keep the weapons out of the hands of good people. criminals break laws for a living so what makes people think that they will obey bullshit gun laws?
just look at what the 1994 ban did.....jack shit.
all these people that talk about banning guns are nothing more then uninformed arrogan, smug pieces of fascist shit.
Alexn1067 2 years ago
No gun is deadlier then another, only the person handling it is.
Maxwedge12000 2 years ago 2
the will to use it
mekanik187 2 years ago
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THEUTUBEHATER 2 years ago
fuck you fascist, its dickheads like you that would imprison your fellow citizens, the american people have and deserve the right to have as much firepower as the cops, its the ultimate balance of power.
and also, I am sure that if rick's neighbors were armed they would have helped the police to put him down.
I am a law abiding citizen who owns an Assualt rifle, I have done nothing wrong, don't you dare talk about taking it away from me, if you try, only violence will result.
Alexn1067 2 years ago
WOW, you do love your guns! And If we try to take them from you, you'll take us ALL OUT. Sounds like your guns turned YOU into the same piece of crap that shot the cops. After a year of following these cases you could only walk away with one thing: Law ABIDING PEOPLE ARE CERTAINLY AS GOOD AT SHOTTING INNOCENT PEOPLE AS THE CRIMINALS. Answer this: How do we stop the "law abiding" psychopath from ruining my family and yours? -Now be useful.
downthedrain08 2 years ago
i'll tell you this, killers are killers whether there is a gun ban or not, and I assure you that this killer would have had a gun either way, so to pretend like we would have a utopian society without guns in the hands of civilians is bullshit. Another thing, cops believe it or not can be corrupt and abusive of their power so a society where only cops carry guns is a tyranical society.
how do we stop a psychopath from ruining families, simple, defend yourself, preferably with a gun.
Alexn1067 2 years ago 2
Like I said, the gov is not going to take your guns. STOP YOUR PARANOIA. I'm sure YOU AND PEOPLE LIKE YOU will be over the edge well before I. Militia comes to mind. What we need to do is redirect the psychopath before its a psychopath. There are many things we are not doing in the workplace, schools and police force to identify, prevent and defend against loose cannons. More guns don't help either without training. Imagine a WILD WEST WORLD. MAD MAX IS NOT THE FUTURE. Think higher life form.
downthedrain08 2 years ago
lol dude, I am not a militia militant guy, I am speaking in hypothetical. I don't do drugs, and I am not looking to whack anybody.
and truthfully, there is no way to tell who will snap and who won't its impossible trying to prevent it would mean hassleling the innocent, like I said, a well armed public is the best defense against rogue psychos.
look right after the civil war, most heavily armed society, least amount of crime.
Alexn1067 2 years ago
Your thinking is not hypothetical. It's mainstream Militia or radical NRA "You'll need to take that gun from my cold dead hands". The way you pulled back in your last thread, leads me to believe your probably not one of those. But your thinking puts you in their profile. What's "hassleling the innocent" mean? People with mental issues are now bad people? AND we bother people if we identify those that need help? The future is not a MAD MAX WORLD so we don't need to go back to the civil war past
downthedrain08 2 years ago
Which weapon is more nocuous, a rifile or a stabber? Could someone, except Superman, carry out a mass bloodshed with a knife in a shopping mall? Or maybe he could, if nobody is brave enough to fight back. But aren't Americans brave?
yxhe 2 years ago
hey yxhe, i guess we should ban cars while we're at it because those have killed far more people then guns have in the united states.
and I'll tell you this, if you propose a gun ban that bans guns not only from citizens, but from cops and government, then i'll support it, till then take your fascist crap elsewhere.
Alexn1067 2 years ago
Good afternoon sir, I never said we should ban all the guns. But is it necessary for civilians to have AK47s with 30-round magazine to protect themselves?
yxhe 2 years ago
well, i'll tell you this, if it isn't necessary for civilians to have AK-47s with 30 rd mags to protect themselves then
it isn't necessary for law inforcement to have M-16s with 30rd magazines to uphold the law.
there were to famous and infamous people who supported gun control, Adolf Hitler and Joseph Stalin, they loved the idea of citizens not having guns for obvious reasons.
Alexn1067 2 years ago
The only reason cops are carrying AR-15s recently, is BECAUSE they are being outgunned by criminals. It wasn't much long ago that all they carried was a 6 shot .38 special revolver.
The idea that citizens should be armed in case they ever need to "correct" goverment is an antiquated one. Sure your AKs might help you win against the police, but let's see how effective small arms are against a F-22 that can reduce your whole city to dust in seconds.
Face it, you cannot defeat the government.
elsamuraiguapo 2 years ago
what you don't get is that you can't rule over a people that don't want you to rule.
what the hell is the government going to govern if there is no one to govern. Who do you think pays for those F22s? The people. So the government is subject to the people so long as the people make it so.
Alexn1067 2 years ago
The government is subject to the people, but NOT because the people are armed and outgun them. The idea that you can keep the government in check by utilizing small arms is antiquated.
Small arms are no longer the most destructive weapons, in fact they're far from it.
Oh, and just because you make private gun ownership unlawful, does not mean the country has become a dictatorship like those under hitler or stalin. I guess going by your logic, the UK and Japan are totalitarian states.
elsamuraiguapo 2 years ago
you don't get it do you? I never said guns would make the difference, its the principle behind it, before you were making the argument that guns should be banned because they are too dangerous, now you are saying that there are more dangerous things besides guns so whats the big deal if we ban them?
your logic is flawed, yeah, UK and Japan don't have guns so yes they are one step closer to totalitarian states.
Alexn1067 2 years ago
Their are more dangerous things besides guns, but not in the hands of the public. I would certainly be against private ownership of tanks and rocket launchers too.
Your logic is flawed, so what if a nation decides to outlaw them? Guns are only one object, we have a lot of things here that are illegal. Weed is illegal here, so does that make us closer to being totalitarian? The U.S. Gov. actually has more penal codes than any other government in the world.
elsamuraiguapo 2 years ago
I think weed should be legalized, in fact weed is less dangerous then alcohol. and by the way you can own rocket launchers and tanks, you just need a high class FFL.
and its not a question of whether guns are dangerous or not (we know they are) its the right to own them and whether you like it or not its our right.
you logic is flawed, banning guns would only expand the black market and only criminals and the cops would have them and that is no good.
Alexn1067 2 years ago
now governments don't turn totalitorian overnight, they do it gradually so that the people don't notice.
so they count on you giving in to one thing after another, guns are the gateway.
but then again I don't think you are a person who belives in personal freedom because on your page you said "embrace socialism" so basically you are calling on us to embrace the chains of solitude.
Alexn1067 2 years ago
I also see that you have a love affair with cops, thats fine, if you're a good cop who tries to make a difference (not just some asshole on a power trip).
but having said that, I find it rather funny that you are for banning or restricting guns from the people.
I see, so you want to be the only dude carrying the gun or in other words, holding power and on top of that you are a socialist, so all this corralates to the fact that you are an elitest who thinks you are above your neighbor.
Alexn1067 2 years ago
Quite the contrary, as a socialist, I hate elitists (AKA capitalists). Maybe you should look up the definition of socialism, rather than go by what fox news or your conservative politicians say about it.
Socialism = equality. I do not believe that a small portion of the power elite should control 80% of the wealth in this country, while the vast majority of americans who are hard workers (not lazy), contributing far more to society than these CEOs are forced to fight over what is left.
elsamuraiguapo 2 years ago
oh quite the contrary indeed, capatalists (true capitalists) are freedom lovers, people who believe that every man should have equal opportunity, not equal wealth.
See its the PERSUIT of life, liberty, and happiness that is or at least should be endowed to every man.
You socialists believe that all men should have equality in the material sense and you would do so by regulating who can make money and how much, and I tell you THAT IS ENSLAVEMENT AND THEREBY NO EQUALITY AT ALL
Alexn1067 2 years ago
on my page I have some videos of an interview with Ayn Rand, I don't know if you heard of her but she was a famous author back in the 30's-50's. And she grew up in a socialist society (Soviet Union) and listen to what she has to say about it,
but I doubt you will becuase generally guys like you hear only what you want to hear.
but none the less I would be impressed if you at least gave it a shot.
Alexn1067 2 years ago
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well, i'll tell you this, if it isn't necessary for civilians to have AK-47s with 30 rd mags to protect themselves then
it isn't necessary for law inforcement to have M-16s with 30rd magazines to uphold the law.
there were to famous and infamous people who supported gun control, Adolf Hitler and Joseph Stalin, they loved the idea of citizens not having guns for obvious reasons.
Alexn1067 2 years ago
didn't mean to send the message twice, youtube glitched or something, anyhow, I have come to the conclusion that people who support restricting guns from citizens are either one of two things
1. way too fearful (believing in fantasy land where we can place our safety in the hands of government without any sort of check or balance)
2. tyrants at heart (who want there to be an imbalance of power where they are the ones with the power)
Alexn1067 2 years ago
But the question is that in a modern society, different from the Nazi or Soviet Union during Stalin ruling period, is it still necessary to protect personal rights with weapons? Now with medias, Internet and other valid ways to demonstrate peraonal opinions and need, the character of guns in the society is different from that in the old times.
yxhe 2 years ago
the danger in what you are saying is that you assume things have changed, I am telling you is that the world is just as twisted today as it ever was in the past. Don't think Stalin and Hitler can never happen again.
A modern society is still in just as much danger to tyranny as societies of old.
Alexn1067 2 years ago
That's why we have so much specific tracffic rules to prevent its damage. However, how could the law contral guns efficiently?
yxhe 2 years ago
They can't so long as there are multiple sovereign nations in this world. In order for gun control to work, there has to be a government with global jurisdiction and law enforcement power. That said government can then shut down ALL firearms manufacturers, indefinitely halting the production of weapons.
elsamuraiguapo 2 years ago
I think the gun laws we have now are just fine. 18 to purchase a non-concealable firearm (high power rifle, assualt rifle, and shotgun) 21 to purchase a hand gun.
Criminal background check with every purchase, permit to purchase fully automatics, permit to sell and import and permit for conceled carry (in some states)
I personally think the current system is about as good as it gets for the most part.
but nothing is perfect, safety is never something that can be guaranteed.
Alexn1067 2 years ago
Maybe the government could issue gun lecences to qualify people, just as driving lecences. The lecence should be reviewed every 1 or 2 years to insure the safety of both the owner and society.
yxhe 2 years ago
bad idea, wouldnt solve anything. the problems not guns; if someone want to kill you, they'll find any method available to them. cars are more deadly than guns.
psbyowner 2 years ago
Guns kill more people than cars. Guns are made to kill people. Cars are a form of transportation. You should have to renew your gun license every year-- much like a hunting license.
coasterfreak100 2 years ago
"How do we stop the "law abiding" psychopath from ruining my family and yours?" Arm yourselves so that you can defend yourselves from such people. Buy a gun and learn how to use it.
Maxwedge12000 2 years ago 2
Ahh, simple answers to complex questions. Ever wonder why we evolved beyond the Wild West. Let's buy a gun! Oh,no I need another for my car. Oh, I need another to match this outfit. Why do we even need cops? Why should we spend time trying to prevent the problem. DO YOU HONESTLY BELIEVE EVERYONE CAN HANDLE A GUN AND USE IT COMPETENTLY? The next misfire or accident or joke maybe your life. Think about what life is like in the middle east. Can YOU really handle that STRESS!
downthedrain08 2 years ago
boooo, i'm coming after you... i'm with the Obama imaginary gun ban... booooo, dumb ass !!
patitofeo76 2 years ago
lol, I am not one of those paranoid types buying into the marketing ploy to buy assualt rifles now before obama bans them.
Alexn1067 2 years ago
Watch your mouth. Shame on you! How much did you get from the gun company last month for supporting them?
yxhe 2 years ago
quite sad, there are these heroes, and then again you have swanson, gurlea and the stark county scum...
dnezekiel 2 years ago
What goes through the people's minds that jump to conclusions and say that gun's is the problem? To much T.V. News.
Kingarthur305 2 years ago 2
you mean another shooting ? is this the same shooting from the vietnamese guy ?
cujo9 2 years ago
Of course you know New York is the DOG FIGHTING capitol of the world. He should have adopted some pit bulls before resorting to this. People make tons of money with dog fighting and you know dog fighting is sharply rising. The funny thing about it is that pit bull zealots WANT you to adopt pit bulls - so plenty of dogs available thanks to them blocking breed specific legislation.
WinterHaven 2 years ago
He thought Obama was gonna ban all guns.
Thanks, Rush!
johnnyk67 2 years ago 2
God, why people are at each other's throat?
MrBinMohamad 2 years ago
Human nature perhaps ? we've been killin' each other for hundreds of years.
RustyCyler 2 years ago 2
Need to start wearing Dragon Skin armor
trav1971 2 years ago
Ya before they start banning bulletproof vest.
THEUTUBEHATER 2 years ago
Death penalty.
biggerflexible 2 years ago
RIP!!!
marshal1973 2 years ago
WTF IS WITH these shootings?!?!??!!!??!
arequipa1 2 years ago
Its the shit hitting the fan.
Mrcharliebobo 2 years ago
It's the economy.
WinterHaven 2 years ago
yup its gonna get worse too desperation breeds crime
3star2nr 2 years ago 2
There's a difference here. Sick people will use their last $200 to buy a gun LEGALLY to shot up the cops because of the economy. If your SANE, you'll go on public assistance and transition OFF. Remember, the winner in the game of LIFE is the one that lives LONGEST
downthedrain08 2 years ago
and let me explain this, I am not a violent person at all, but i do have principle. And whether you like it or not, americans have the right to own guns and the day the government says we can't is the day we need them most.
And yes, I would fight for that right becuase what is living if your not free?
"the winner of life is the one that lives longest"
I guess you never heard of "better to die on your feet then to live on your knees"
Alexn1067 2 years ago 2
If they come for your guns (2nd amendment) give them the bullets 1st.
BTW- Great quote! Was it Reagan?
ninanwk69 2 years ago 2
Actually, I agree with your right to own a gun. We don't want the gov. to over run anything. At the same time we don't live in the Wild West. The unjustified radical paranoia over gun rights is silly. My worry is if we take a guy like you, load him up with Meth, PCP OR STRESS and there's your next rampage killer. Hmm what just happened here...PARANOID-...KILL. Your thinking-..KILL. Me-higher thinking....NO KILL.. You'll probably die on YOUR knees early. Stop paranoia and think about a solution.
downthedrain08 2 years ago
"we don't live in the Wild West." Too bad we don't as the murder rate was a mere fraction of what it is today. Everyone should have a gun and be allowed to carry it.
Maxwedge12000 2 years ago 2
Don't think things through do you. How would it be if we ALL had guns. Would you trust anyone? Gun fight in the doctors office, workplace, highschools and home. Sound good? Bad joke?- gun fight. Bad grade?- gun fight. I got Cancer!- gun fight. I just DON'T LIKE YOU!-gun fight. How many of these "gun fights" can you survive until GAMEOVER as a video game. How long can your family last? Look! waring neighborhood factions. I trust myself, BUT CAN I TRUST YOU WITH A GUN. Think and address this!
downthedrain08 2 years ago
Ok, how about, all law abiding people should have a gun and be allowed to carry it. The overwhelming number are if fact law abiding and not prone to violence. The lack of trust on your part should have no bearing on the exercise of a constitutional right by the people.
Maxwedge12000 2 years ago
Circular argument. How do we know WHO is NOT PRONE TO VIOLENCE. You and OTHERS would certainly rather invest in a gun than prevention. Understand the world you want to live in- My BigMac did not come fast enough-gun fight, You didn't hire me-gun fight. You may think YOUR psychologically mature/balanced to have a gun, BUT IS EVERYONE? Why would crime decrease- gangs of people with firepower would just come into your home and strongarm it. Neighborhoods would turn into factions. Middle East-Why?
downthedrain08 2 years ago
Your concerns are irrelevant. It is a right to keep and bear arms. It is a human right to be able to defend oneself from others that would do you or yours harm. The exercise of our rights are not dependent on others who just don't like the right or are afraid of it. It is a rights issue not strictly a gun issue.
Maxwedge12000 2 years ago
right wing fear mongering. it's gonna get worse this summer. with the heat of the summer, the economy still down, unemployment rates going up (everybody knows it's gonna hit 10% unemployment before it starts declining) and fox news and talk radio trying to sabotage the dems... this summer our country is going to become a bloodbath.
patitofeo76 2 years ago
it goes both ways my friend. the dems aren't blameless either.
arequipa1 2 years ago
It's all part of the Obama plan. Seems everything is going as planned.
ANGLEBOOT 2 years ago
How is critique of the Dems. sabotage?
abarzilai664 2 years ago
There is a difference between criticism and flat-out lies. This kid's actions were based on something that is not even happening. Nobody is taking away anyone's guns, nobody is putting anybody in no FEMA camps. Standing against the Dems econimic plans is one thing, but taking advantage of ignorant people to spread false rumors is sabotage, and is working just fine for GOPers. Like I said, hold on pretty tight because this summer is gonna be a rough ride.
patitofeo76 2 years ago 2
My point being that not every single criticism should not be seen as sabotage and only those crazies who listen to Alex Jones believe in FEMA Camps. Don't start behaving like the GOP partisans did when Bush was pres.
abarzilai664 2 years ago
All of this is obama's fault. Him and the left wingnuts who are spending our nation into oblivion, destroying jobs, taxing us to death and trying to take all our rights away. We need to stop obama by unleashing a republican tsunami next year or we will all be slaves to big FED.
Maxwedge12000 2 years ago
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fucksatanism 2 years ago