Personally, I prefer Andrei Gavrilov's rendition. You kind of need to be really really on top of it in order to avoid making certain sections sound unnatural or stilted. For most recordings, I can almost see the pianist placing each chord methodically. I think especially with the chord section here, you have to have a good combination of control and recklessness... while I love Ashkenazy, I don't think his playing of this part is the best.
I saw Ashkenazy a ten years ago. In the first half he played Mozart - crap. In the second half Ravel - great. Then Rachmaninov - out of this world. It's in his blood.
Maybe we'll have the privilege to listen to your interpretation one of these days ? I would love that, because, frankly, Biret and Weissenberg ? Seriously ? Try at least to use Horowitz as a possible match !
Well, maybe is it just a hearing problem ... Just not sure wether is it 99% of the musicians in the world or just you. Lol !
BTW, I prefer Ashkenazy's later version with Haitink. The sound is even fuller, denser
Funny, I played this cadenza a lot, and I guess I have the same edition than Ashkenazy, because he plays exactly (actually, I wish I could say the same for me !) what is written in the text I use too . But be sure I will forward your comment to Maestro Ahskenasy and tell him that there is one person who knows better than him (who is incidentally considered as Rachmaninov best interpret ever by many, many professional musicians and pianists. but hey, what do they know, right ?)
listen it from Idil Biret and try to feel the darkness, Ashkenazy's one is a dark interpretation, well, but there are too much wrong notes that irritates me. i always believe that all songs should be played in original without any change, Biret and Weissenberg make like this and they are both dark too.
@abmsghost@abmsghost that fool thestarsheriff is comparing different interpretations of the cadenza.
it's alot different, not to mention, hell of a lot slower.
very different, but it ain't wrong notes. his ears just can't tell that the difference between the two is drastically different interpretations, tempo, and focus on it seems like some cheery tone. i don't like birut's, ashkenazy is much more... russian
@abmsghost Obviously, its a studio recording. It's not live. The same way that every pianist's studio recording of any piece doesn't contain wrong notes.
also, biret plays so fucking slow, you can hear every single note.
ashkenazy played the part that you probably are hearing as wrong notes way different. it sorta flows together in a melancholic feel to it... not the crisp, slow, cheery style that biret plays it.
and oh yeah, it aint mistakes. it is your horrible ears.
i don't believe your comments. is this good? I hear a lot of wrong notes, why anyone did not mention about it? i think that one is so bad, please listen it from Idil biret and Alexis Weissenberg, and also from Berman.
Well, I like both Askenazy's and Berman's interpretation. The first part (before the jumping chords) Ashkenazy manages to get a dark growing phrase. Berman has also a growing phrase, but it sounds less dark. At the juming chords, I like Berman's speed, but Ashkenazy expresses the polyphony differently. After the first phrase (till 1:52) he emphasizes the low notes, and I quite like that. The only thing I dislike, is that he arpeggiates some chords. Nevertheless, musicaly he plays it very well.
Ashkenazy attacks this cadenza like he did Ravel's Scarbo- Not rushed, but very persistant as well as technically flawless. Right now he is my favorite pianist.
What I especially like about Ashkenazy is that he is equally a great conductor. Listen to his recording of the Rach 3 where Ashkenazy is the CONDUCTOR of the Cleveland Orchestra and Thibaudet is the pianist. He treats the concerto more like a symphony with piano so that orchestral details, inaudible or too soft in most recordings, are much more prominent. The power of the climaxes is without equal.
I think this is the best recording. Previn is excellent and, like Yehudi Menuhin's Schubert symphony recordings, proves that the best conductors are/have been soloists. I also prefer Ashkenazii's interpretation of the cadenza to all others I've heard because it is majestic and musical.
I like the way Volodos attacks the chordal sequence (the 'real beginning' of the ossia cadenza) and seems to quicken the tempo. His cadenza is monumental but could only work if that kind of power is sustained till the end of the concerto - and only if the orchestra is also powerful enough. I don't like the way he shortens the climactic chordal sequence (properly done at 2:39 - 2:53 on this Ashkenazy recording), though...
Ashkenazy has incredible technical ability and amazing depth of interpretation in Rachmaninov. He is far my favourite for Rachmaninov and many other composers. His playing and interpretation impress me so much. I have heard all the main recordings including the great Volodos.
Lazar Berman is the unquestioned master of this Cadneza, Volodos and Gilels and .......you always have to have some human effluent gargabe like parkourjordz make charming comment like this.....
It's sad very few people do the first cadenza...the second one is too light, this one's so powerful, and it has to be played by the right person. This guy, Ashkenazy and Yefim Bronfman both play it with such power, it's amazing...
Actually it's a bit careful and slow in the big chordal changes near the end of the cadenza, and still imperfect, I feel like askenazy looses some of the passion in his playing, never really been one of my top faves, great great player, but not my favorite, I'd rather have him take more chances,
what's wrong with you, people? Rach 3 by Volodos with Levine in Berlin '99 is no worse for sure (if not better). The most passionate interpretation and the most powerful performance yet
The other version is just not as good as this one.
hippie6996 1 week ago
Personally, I prefer Andrei Gavrilov's rendition. You kind of need to be really really on top of it in order to avoid making certain sections sound unnatural or stilted. For most recordings, I can almost see the pianist placing each chord methodically. I think especially with the chord section here, you have to have a good combination of control and recklessness... while I love Ashkenazy, I don't think his playing of this part is the best.
zhangensprachen 1 month ago
2 persons are idiot
LuisPolena88 1 month ago
Horowitz owns Rach 3, in my opinion.
forgottenbooks 2 months ago
I see we have 2 voters who can play better than Ashkenazy
swirls999 3 months ago
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bervy8 5 months ago
I saw Ashkenazy a ten years ago. In the first half he played Mozart - crap. In the second half Ravel - great. Then Rachmaninov - out of this world. It's in his blood.
99hoolio 6 months ago
very good....but not the top.......
zipronovic 8 months ago
rach 3 > rach 2
dommboi69 8 months ago
@dommboi69 rach 3 != rach 2
rachmaninovs 8 months ago 5
Mr. Ashkenazy? You win three internets.
BenMcCormack91 9 months ago
2:36 EXPLOSION
fledgehog 9 months ago
so heavy.
kasyapa 9 months ago
I don't know why, but I definitely prefer this cadenza over the light toccata-style one. It sounds so much more raw and powerful.
allenglandlawns 9 months ago
Although I really admire Ashkenazi, it's not even close to Bronfman Rach 3.
Sory ,someone have to say the truth.
MrRaphaelBM 10 months ago 2
@MrRaphaelBM true.
marvinracer88 7 months ago
@MrRaphaelBM Lazar Berman owns this Cadnezza BUT Ashakanazy does a truly wonderful interpretation, in fact of all, its the most musical I think :)
busylifemeto 6 months ago
Ashkenazy is for me the best performer of Rachmaninoff alive. His candenza is just wonderful.
ClassicalMusicPL 1 year ago
This sounds so damn right!! I love him!!!!
opterios 1 year ago
he's conducting the piano to play the cadenza
crapatitus 1 year ago 2
lol@Sibelius shirt
ilikehaku1100 1 year ago
I like this cadenza better than the other one.
OrangeSodaKing 1 year ago
Is it strange that I like this cadenza more than the other one? Most performers seem to play the other one only :/
unitednerdsbeproud 1 year ago
entrambe le cadenze sono eccezionali, ma questa dà qualcosa in più...
samuelegatti 1 year ago
@thestarsherrif
Maybe we'll have the privilege to listen to your interpretation one of these days ? I would love that, because, frankly, Biret and Weissenberg ? Seriously ? Try at least to use Horowitz as a possible match !
Well, maybe is it just a hearing problem ... Just not sure wether is it 99% of the musicians in the world or just you. Lol !
BTW, I prefer Ashkenazy's later version with Haitink. The sound is even fuller, denser
mimolechien 1 year ago
@thestarsherrif..
Funny, I played this cadenza a lot, and I guess I have the same edition than Ashkenazy, because he plays exactly (actually, I wish I could say the same for me !) what is written in the text I use too . But be sure I will forward your comment to Maestro Ahskenasy and tell him that there is one person who knows better than him (who is incidentally considered as Rachmaninov best interpret ever by many, many professional musicians and pianists. but hey, what do they know, right ?)
mimolechien 1 year ago
love his shirt!!!!!!
alexmanzo19 1 year ago
is that paderewski on his shirt? random guess
musicandminastirith 1 year ago
@musicandminastirith It's Sibelius - hence the 'Finlandia'!
Haeronthegreat 1 year ago 5
@Haeronthegreat thanks!
musicandminastirith 1 year ago
@musicandminastirith Sibelius when he was young...never mind
abmsghost 1 year ago
yeah new video format.
elpapaya94 1 year ago
listen it from Idil Biret and try to feel the darkness, Ashkenazy's one is a dark interpretation, well, but there are too much wrong notes that irritates me. i always believe that all songs should be played in original without any change, Biret and Weissenberg make like this and they are both dark too.
thestarsheriff 1 year ago
@thestarsheriff could you point out where the all those wrong notes are? I'm quite curious I must say..
voolare 1 year ago
@thestarsheriff there are no wrong notes.
abmsghost 1 year ago
@abmsghost @abmsghost that fool thestarsheriff is comparing different interpretations of the cadenza.
it's alot different, not to mention, hell of a lot slower.
very different, but it ain't wrong notes. his ears just can't tell that the difference between the two is drastically different interpretations, tempo, and focus on it seems like some cheery tone. i don't like birut's, ashkenazy is much more... russian
koryano321 1 year ago
@abmsghost Obviously, its a studio recording. It's not live. The same way that every pianist's studio recording of any piece doesn't contain wrong notes.
debussy84 1 year ago
@thestarsheriff
its not the wrong notes.
its how they both interpreted it.
also, biret plays so fucking slow, you can hear every single note.
ashkenazy played the part that you probably are hearing as wrong notes way different. it sorta flows together in a melancholic feel to it... not the crisp, slow, cheery style that biret plays it.
and oh yeah, it aint mistakes. it is your horrible ears.
koryano321 1 year ago
@thestarsheriff Songs?
abmsghost 1 year ago
i don't believe your comments. is this good? I hear a lot of wrong notes, why anyone did not mention about it? i think that one is so bad, please listen it from Idil biret and Alexis Weissenberg, and also from Berman.
thestarsheriff 1 year ago
Well, I like both Askenazy's and Berman's interpretation. The first part (before the jumping chords) Ashkenazy manages to get a dark growing phrase. Berman has also a growing phrase, but it sounds less dark. At the juming chords, I like Berman's speed, but Ashkenazy expresses the polyphony differently. After the first phrase (till 1:52) he emphasizes the low notes, and I quite like that. The only thing I dislike, is that he arpeggiates some chords. Nevertheless, musicaly he plays it very well.
nmvdw 1 year ago
la piu bella cadenza assolutamente...poi arriva volodos...ma qui lui era grande
goldberg72 1 year ago
@goldberg72 se condo me è troppo densa, preferisco quella normale
4785689 1 year ago
@4785689 quale sarebbe quella normale? quella che fa horowitz e lo stesso rackmaninoff?
goldberg72 1 year ago
@goldberg72 Si (:
4785689 1 year ago
Ashkenazy attacks this cadenza like he did Ravel's Scarbo- Not rushed, but very persistant as well as technically flawless. Right now he is my favorite pianist.
656of1000 2 years ago 18
What I especially like about Ashkenazy is that he is equally a great conductor. Listen to his recording of the Rach 3 where Ashkenazy is the CONDUCTOR of the Cleveland Orchestra and Thibaudet is the pianist. He treats the concerto more like a symphony with piano so that orchestral details, inaudible or too soft in most recordings, are much more prominent. The power of the climaxes is without equal.
Opoczynski 2 years ago
i want that shirt.
sooo badly.
MIFFLISH 2 years ago 31
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGH!
BrookHornblower 2 years ago
I think this is the best recording. Previn is excellent and, like Yehudi Menuhin's Schubert symphony recordings, proves that the best conductors are/have been soloists. I also prefer Ashkenazii's interpretation of the cadenza to all others I've heard because it is majestic and musical.
BrookHornblower 2 years ago
Have you heard Volodos'? I think that recording is pretty monumental.
lacrymosa85 2 years ago
yes, I like it, too. Volodos is my favourite pianist.
BrookHornblower 2 years ago
I like the way Volodos attacks the chordal sequence (the 'real beginning' of the ossia cadenza) and seems to quicken the tempo. His cadenza is monumental but could only work if that kind of power is sustained till the end of the concerto - and only if the orchestra is also powerful enough. I don't like the way he shortens the climactic chordal sequence (properly done at 2:39 - 2:53 on this Ashkenazy recording), though...
BrookHornblower 2 years ago 2
I think that's Horowitz's influence (the cadenza cut)
lacrymosa85 2 years ago
oh, right. i saw your videos - you play very well - have you tried doing the cadenza?
BrookHornblower 2 years ago
Thanks! Yeah I can play the entire first movement. I play the ossia cadenza. I haven't had a chance to upload it unfortunately (or film it).
lacrymosa85 2 years ago
Ashkenazy has incredible technical ability and amazing depth of interpretation in Rachmaninov. He is far my favourite for Rachmaninov and many other composers. His playing and interpretation impress me so much. I have heard all the main recordings including the great Volodos.
cattleman6420012000 2 years ago
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BrookHornblower 2 years ago
holy monster! i want that shirt sooooo bad!
MIFFLISH 2 years ago 3
What ruined this for me was the entire middle register needed voicing so all I heard the whole time was god awful clanging hahahahah .
I usually love ASHKENAZY and sitll do but this recording was harsh
Jamessemaj12 2 years ago
in my view, he does the best rendition of the rach 3. right pace, good precision, and it just sounds so dramatic.
thornydevil1 2 years ago
Bella,ma a me piace di più quella di Van Cliburn.
Bonita,pero me gusta màs la de Van Cliburn
frederickfrederikfre 2 years ago
An unimaginative performance by Ashkenazi. Must be a bad hair day for him.
freeqwerqwer 2 years ago
Lazar Berman is the unquestioned master of this Cadneza, Volodos and Gilels and .......you always have to have some human effluent gargabe like parkourjordz make charming comment like this.....
busylifemeto 2 years ago
It's sad very few people do the first cadenza...the second one is too light, this one's so powerful, and it has to be played by the right person. This guy, Ashkenazy and Yefim Bronfman both play it with such power, it's amazing...
mario54671 2 years ago
He's very very good,
Actually it's a bit careful and slow in the big chordal changes near the end of the cadenza, and still imperfect, I feel like askenazy looses some of the passion in his playing, never really been one of my top faves, great great player, but not my favorite, I'd rather have him take more chances,
ocsound1 2 years ago
Well I mean I still prefer Yefim Bronfman, but I also love Ashkenazy.
mario54671 2 years ago
Absolutely breathtaking.
Bravo, Ashkenazy! (and love the shirt, lol)
vlucas1112004 2 years ago 3
yeah I want that shirt....
rosenpwn0rt 2 years ago
one of my most favorite Rach3 cadenza
Breathtaking Passion + Incredible Technique
Bravo !!
liszt731 2 years ago 2
Vladimir Ashkenazy has incredible depth and understanding when he plays Rachmaninov.
cattleman6420012000 2 years ago
If you like this, listen to the cadenza played by Arcadi Volodos in his CD recording of the Rach 3...
JAPointon 3 years ago
what's wrong with you, people? Rach 3 by Volodos with Levine in Berlin '99 is no worse for sure (if not better). The most passionate interpretation and the most powerful performance yet
nickrussel79 2 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
Im sorry but Volodos can go suck his mums balls.
parkourjordz 2 years ago
lmao
lacrymosa85 2 years ago
This is fantastic. The man is a marvel.
cattleman6420012000 3 years ago
This is bliss!
ivanbunny25 3 years ago 3
lol the t-shirt reminds me of phil spector!
dlfunky 3 years ago
One of the best version ever!I have this CD,a marvl for who enjoy Rach's music.
Too dramatic and powerful.
He has a funny shirt!
ArturoAlejandroS 3 years ago
Absolutely Astounding. I haven't heard this version....thanks so much for posting. I'm rocked.
sugarlandscott 3 years ago
1:21 is so dramatic!! I never heard Ashkenazy playing this cadenza, but I have to say it's probably one of the best interpretation i've heard.
IloveAlexisBledel689 3 years ago 2
this is incredible, marvellous
4Loki 3 years ago
and yeah, the T-shirt is amazing, too
4Loki 3 years ago 2
Wow that blew my brains out...
ajcsanders 3 years ago
Magnificent playing. So balanced, controlled and inventive. Up to his usual standard.
vladdegs 3 years ago
Holly shit, this is simply awesome !
Five stars for sure !
yojukitomodele 3 years ago
Fantstic playing and marvellous interpretation.
cattleman6420012000 3 years ago