After watching this video, I cannot understand why you put Driggs into a pair of Newtons (@ 8:43 in part one of crossover gait correction), a shoe that was constructed for toe-running (not forefoot/midfoot striking per se). He is clearly landing heel first with an exaggerated dorsiflexion at the ankle upon initial contact with the ground + newtons = problems. Also, I have a feeling you may be confusing the type of forefoot landing between sprinters and distance runners
Really, there is no pronation with a forefoot strike? Have you seen Daniel Lieberman's research? Maybe it's different with shoes on, but a forefoot strike should have the person land on the outside/lateral forefoot and then roll across the forefoot to the 1st metatarsal before toe-off (pronation?). There can be more than adequate shock absorption in a properly done forefoot strike. But, my backround is as a barefoot runner, so maybe it's quite different in your typical shod forefoot striker
Thanks for your comment. I aplogize for the tardiness of this response. Yes, we are very familiar with Dr Liebermans work . Please allow me to clarify: There IS pronation with a fore or midfoot strike, just little to no MIDFOOT pronation; pronation can occur in either the rear, mid or forefoot. This video is referring to midfoot pronation. In a true forefoot strike, the foot is often in supination, which effectively locks the subtalar joint so the foot becomes a rigid lever.
@drwaerlop I think that distinction should be clearly outlined in the video. Given the current minimalist movement, terms like 'forefoot strike' and 'heel strike' are becoming more and more ambiguous as different brands (Newton)/running style (Chi, Pose, etc.) coaches define them in their own way. So, it would appear that your definition of 'true forefoot striking' would be best defined as 'toe-running', where the foot IS in fact a rigid lever with little to no heel contact
You are correct. There is not a true, universal descriptor that is used. It is alot like shoe sizing: no standardization. We have some new videos coming out in the new year which more clearly delineate this and more. You can stay updated on the release by following our blog on Tumblr: The Gait Guys
midfoot pronation, ankle dorsiflexion, and hip flexion attenuate shock in the saggital plane and the hip abductors (predominantly gluteus medius) attenuates shock in the coronal plane. We agree the hip abductors are contracting eccentrically, which also helps to keep the hips level
Great video, but I'm not understanding how of the three shock absorbers, hip abduction, attenuates shock? Wouldn't ecc. hip adduction reduce vertical impact more so in this plane?
After watching this video, I cannot understand why you put Driggs into a pair of Newtons (@ 8:43 in part one of crossover gait correction), a shoe that was constructed for toe-running (not forefoot/midfoot striking per se). He is clearly landing heel first with an exaggerated dorsiflexion at the ankle upon initial contact with the ground + newtons = problems. Also, I have a feeling you may be confusing the type of forefoot landing between sprinters and distance runners
TheNaturalRunnerVanc 6 months ago
Really, there is no pronation with a forefoot strike? Have you seen Daniel Lieberman's research? Maybe it's different with shoes on, but a forefoot strike should have the person land on the outside/lateral forefoot and then roll across the forefoot to the 1st metatarsal before toe-off (pronation?). There can be more than adequate shock absorption in a properly done forefoot strike. But, my backround is as a barefoot runner, so maybe it's quite different in your typical shod forefoot striker
jozabakazan 7 months ago
Thanks for your comment. I aplogize for the tardiness of this response. Yes, we are very familiar with Dr Liebermans work . Please allow me to clarify: There IS pronation with a fore or midfoot strike, just little to no MIDFOOT pronation; pronation can occur in either the rear, mid or forefoot. This video is referring to midfoot pronation. In a true forefoot strike, the foot is often in supination, which effectively locks the subtalar joint so the foot becomes a rigid lever.
drwaerlop 6 months ago
@drwaerlop I think that distinction should be clearly outlined in the video. Given the current minimalist movement, terms like 'forefoot strike' and 'heel strike' are becoming more and more ambiguous as different brands (Newton)/running style (Chi, Pose, etc.) coaches define them in their own way. So, it would appear that your definition of 'true forefoot striking' would be best defined as 'toe-running', where the foot IS in fact a rigid lever with little to no heel contact
TheNaturalRunnerVanc 6 months ago
@TheNaturalRunnerVanc
You are correct. There is not a true, universal descriptor that is used. It is alot like shoe sizing: no standardization. We have some new videos coming out in the new year which more clearly delineate this and more. You can stay updated on the release by following our blog on Tumblr: The Gait Guys
drwaerlop 6 months ago
Just to clarify, eccentric hip adduction by the abductors.
Vinjitsu1107 9 months ago
@Vinjitsu1107
midfoot pronation, ankle dorsiflexion, and hip flexion attenuate shock in the saggital plane and the hip abductors (predominantly gluteus medius) attenuates shock in the coronal plane. We agree the hip abductors are contracting eccentrically, which also helps to keep the hips level
drwaerlop 6 months ago
Great video, but I'm not understanding how of the three shock absorbers, hip abduction, attenuates shock? Wouldn't ecc. hip adduction reduce vertical impact more so in this plane?
Vinjitsu1107 9 months ago