Part 1 - How Leaving the Watchtower Society Affected Me

[knowareman03]

@liv2share

I woke up Nov 2007, after being told something intriguing by a gentleman..."money is an illusion". I immediately went on the defensive stating the bible says "money is a protection." The gentlmen repeated himself, didn't argue, and left the matter up to me. I can remember telling my brother shortly afterwards..."I'm think I want to get off the grid." I had no idea why I said that. But many, many books later, I can acknowledge today that, that money statement set it all off! :0)

[hypnofan35]

The Earth is hollow with an inner civilization that has actually colonized outer surface world. Don't believe me? i have no reason to lie and am also supported by "gravitational or planetary physics" in this assertion that is universally denied by status reality. Thermodynamics seems to support the existence of high efficiency energy usage, that is universally banned by hierarchy of monopoly. It's a simpler thing to use than what we use now and much more efficient and stabile form.

[hypnofan35]

My dad's "status" was based on shit-faced-angry false accusation, It is mental illness or hiearchal in nature. Doesn't need truth; as long as force can be used and non accountabliity for crimes of logic committed for the sake of self rewarding status behavior. One of the largest decadent human self rewarding is "status behavior" or lying or being on board for the sake of self aggrandization. (basically the normal human self deluding condition). Truth never comes from hiearchy or religion.

[hypnofan35]

Two very large things that we don't believe in are: The earth is hollow as are all planets and other space spheres., and there is heat capture technology which would change "life as we know it". (truth in physical reality). JWs are essentially hierarchy or "belonging status addicted" personalities. It's a hiearchy that is somewhat "natural" but always trafficking in group supported BS or belief. Pointing at a bible just means they are lying usng mythic and twisted history.

[hypnofan35]

Armageddon could happen, but "suit job Armageddon" will probably come first. Every now & again the Earth does some natural movement that can be devistating for civilization. Things move up and things sink. We just don't know or talk about it... There is apparently signs of civilization that are "under water" presently. It means civilization sunk and lost continuity. Religion is normally "pure indoctrination" and designed to make you stupid but belonging.

[hypnofan35]

There is one "physical kind of thing" that no organized group would shed light on. All planets are hollow, and that is where life probably comes from, It could be that planets with the capacity to support life on their outer surface are "rare at best". Hollow earth is simple and simple to prove and could be proven in a day or week or however long it takes to get an underground gravity measurement. This is not done and never alluded to. This just means it's hidden by hiearchy.

[benzion888]

when I left the JW's I found peace with the Christadelphians In the absence of centralised organisation, some differences exist amongst Christadelphians on matters of belief and practice. This is because each congregation (commonly styled 'ecclesias') is organised autonomously, typically following common practices which have altered little since the 19th century. the CD do not believe in the trinity however unlike the jw they believe in the second coming of christ on the eartjh

[MrGuitarist93]

I am a 17 year old boy who has found much wrong with this religion and am positive that it is not the truth through the bible. I would really like the opportunity to talk to you,

[the47alex]

what did you see that made you get out of the JW organization? you sent me your story written. thanks for that. please answer this question

[liv2share]

@the47alex Honestly i didn't "see" anything because like I said, I didn't consciously choose to leave the organization. Intuitively I guess I knew something was wrong. Now all these years looking back my biggest issues are the conditional love required of my family & other JW's. That I made life decisions based upon them forecasting the end of the world & the bible specifically warns against that. And finally that we were required to be closed minded and judgmental of others.

[the47alex]

@liv2share and what do you think about armaggedon?

[liv2share]

@the47alex When i left the dubs i was 100% expecting armaggedon to come. i went about living the only bit of life that i thougt i would have, and put these beliefs out of my mind. One day i realized that the generation who was alive & aware of things happening in 1914 were almost all dead, finally I began to question the beliefs I believed were fact. I dont know about armaggedon, more beliefs than the christians forcast doom and gloom for our future.

[liv2share]

@the47alex Every moment of my nearly 40 years of life has been under this shadow. NO MORE, I will not allow myself to live as if that is a fact of something to happen to me. I've even caught bits and pieces of people beliefs that armaggedon will be a change in the consciousness of nearly every one on earth and that things will make a substantial change for the positive . for some reason that makes some sense to me.  i know my own consciousness has dramatically changed in the last 3 years.

[TheElmaspelon]

@the47alex armaggedon is all bull shit

[the47alex]

@TheElmaspelon when armaggedon comes, you will be sorry. write what I'm saying and when it comes, you will remember what I said. you will rebember me, but it will be late.

[the47alex]

@TheElmaspelon you don't believe about armaggedon, ok. I respect it. I'm not here to say you, " you are wrong". I just would like to know Why you say armaggedon won't comes. could you explain your creed please???

[trezebeesie50]

thanks hope to speak or mail with you if you want to or have the time....KISS FROM THIRZA from the netherlands

[gorgobar]

I had to chuckle when you said about being presented as a good example on the platform - been there done that got the t-shirt ^^

Trouble is I didn't cease associating until my early 30s, and being a man I got a little further than pioneering... it's damn hard now to be making these lifestyle changes. But I would never go back - as the scriptures say, 'then you will leave the truth, and leaving the truth shall set you free' - at least I think that must be what it says :P

thanks for sharing!

[Ribcagehacksaw]

(Jesse) I have to say I really enjoyed your story. So Pioneer School was a let down you say. It's kind of funny because at the school meetings they try to make it sound cool and enticing, by putting up their little spokes boy saying that it was a very enlightening Journey of knowledge. Its probably like any other meeting just smaller and you can't sleep at all because you'll have elder on your ass. But I really enjoyed your video & I think people can learn from this Welcome by the way.

[SomeStylistGuy]

Wow! I almost have to remind myself that you are not someone I've met before. So much of this sounds like my childhood. The eternal silence, the isolation and school issues, the depression. I didn't make it anywhere nEAR my senior year before I ran away, but I commend you for sticking it out. Very good video. (If you are J.W. watching, does thIS sound fake to you? or like some "evil apostate"? )

[liv2share]

@SomeStylistGuy

Thank you so much for your kind words. So many of the stories on here seem similiar to mine and its so comforting to not feel so alone any more.

[trezebeesie50]

@SomeStylistGuy some times I feel like two persons..one befor and one aftrer....JW

[the47alex]

@SomeStylistGuy could you resume what she is saying please? because I can't understand what she says, I don't speak English. I just read and write English.

[MannyMarvel]

gr8 vid, welcome and thx for sharing.

[exjw44288]

Welcome to You Tube!

It's so sad that so many jw kids suffer with depression throughout childhood. For some it lasts throughout adulthood. I'm glad to see that it doesn't seem to have followed you.

[drlove76]

Sounds familiar, thanks for sharing

[jbharla]

Thank you for sharing your story. Your story mirrors my own quite a bit. I also just read Kyria's book a few weeks ago and enjoyed it very much. The Witnesses would like to make you think that "the world" is such a scary place that you won't make it without them. Good for you for seeing through it.