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And thank's to her amazing technique, Nilsson had the ability to produce tones that could last for ever, just listen to her final note in Siegfried, THAT is impressive, and that she could held the high F in pp in Isoldes Liebestod and STILL be perfectly heard on the greatest stages, and cut through the orchestra, THAT is impressive...Dimitrova screamed Turandot.....Evs Turner sang Turandot...Nilsson IS the definitiv Turandot!
@operamusicfan: I believe the F being referred to is the final soft F at the top of the stave on the word "lust". It's Isolde's final note in the opera.
@operamusicfan - You are correct, of course. That F6 is unreachable for all sopranos, save for perhaps Callas and Sutherland and possibly Sills in the earliest parts of their respective careers. Of course, any Queen of the Night MUST have them. Singers like Roberta Peters, Rita Streich, Lucia Popp (very early in her career) and Erna Berger immediately come to mind. I knew the note......I just forgot to refer to it in musician's language. My error.
@Zva26 ey, actual coloratura sopranos are able to reach it, even after of her operation, Dessay is always capable of doing it, Damrau as well. Dramatic sopranos there are just a few, but not all sopranos are uncapable. Remember that the actual world of sopranos is not only conformed by Netrebko and Georghiu, I believe that the lighter ones deserve a mention.
Well this is good but I really don't consider Dimitrova as the greatest dramatic soprano ever lived, that is Nilsson becuse she is unbeatable thanks to her Strauss and Wagner. And true, all italian roles didn't fit Nilsson but many did. So overall Nilsson has a LOTS more power than anyone else and yes Nilsson never sang Abigaille on stage, but i agree, i have never heard anyone produce Nilssons high C in this role...actualy, i've never heard anyone beat her high notes ;)
Nilsson certainly had the best high notes of any dramatic soprano but her middle voice was much weaker and her tone wasn't warm: Flagstad and Varnay were both better in the Wagner roles in my opinion. She did NOT have much more power than anyone else, just on the top notes. Stop exagerrating.
@Matt54e This isn't true. People who heard Nilsson live say how surprising it was that her voice had much more warmth than on studio recordings and that her middle was amazing. Of course there are all kinds of tastes but IMO Nilsson's voice sounds extremely beautiful and youthful. Her tone isn't rounded velvety like Flagstad's, but those qualities don't equal "power/warmth". Her voice was slimmer and more penetrating, but it had that unsurpassable mix of true metal and a clean lyrical sound.
@Jakopsohn You can't really make judgements on the size of a voice through studio recordings, and I'm willing to bet you never saw Nilsson live. No need to exaggerate to try and make a point.
i SAW (ALMOST) THEM all. Unfortunately, I missed this lady, whom I consider possibly the greatest dramatic soprant that ever lived. She had a warm, yet powerful voice & thereby was far better suited than Nilsson for Italian opera. Shame she never had the opportunity to be partnwered by a true Italian spinto tenor like the magnificent Franco Corelli.
It´s sad that Birgit Nilsson never sang Abigaille on stage, but she did this aria on CD. I have never heard any soprano produce the ending high C with such a power.
operamusicfan : grazie per questo caro ricordo ! nel 1968 ho ascoltato dal vivo La Dimitrova in Nabuco , giovane,bella ,la sua voce era immensa,le pianissimi erano cosi belli che facceva vibbrare l`aria nel teatro,da questa sera nel mio cuore c`e posto soltanto per ....La Dimitrova ! Insuperabile,immortale !ancora una volta, grazie !
Well I say it's the other way around. Callas was good but Dimitrova WAS BETTER. Dimitrova was singing these voice killing roles like Abigail, Turandot, Lady Macbeth and Norma in the 1980's the decade after Callas' death. If Callas had lived into the 80's she would have been too old to sing opera and her voice had already died by the late 70's. The retired, powerless Callas would have been in awe and envy of Dimitrova
Verdi knew Ghena would be born sometime in the future and created this role for her AND HER ONLY !!! The only singer who ever did this better than Ghena was Callas.
Forget about all the Netrebkos, Venettas and Scottos. They are no match at all
And Guleghina- pls, do NOT try to sing this piece anymore...EVER !!!!
Callas didn't do this role so many times to consider she did it better than Dimitrova. I think Nabucco is too big for Callas voice at that time after her weightloss. But any way Callas is a colossal singer and did outstanding performances of so many different roles!
Listen to her '49 Napoli recording - she was only 26 years old then and really is great !! Ghena herself admitted that Callas was her all-time teacher and tried to learn fm her all the time / I knew Ghena personally, I've heard this fm her/
But yes, Ghena did Abigaile hundreds of times and actually this role IS / not WAS/ just for her!! That's what I meant
Don't get me wrong! I didn't say that Callas was not a good Abigaille. What I tried to say was that for me iDimitrova is the best in Nabucco by far. But Callas was awesome too. Souliotis did a great job and some others!
there is a quality to Dimitrova's voice that i cannot get over. Its so round and big sounding and clear as a bell at the same time. great dramatic soprano voice. I wish we still had voices like this today.
O my God, what a voice and what energy and stamina! Dimitrova is AMAZING, as always! She is a real evil and jealous bitch, just as Abigaille is supposed to be!
Great,Great,Great.Ghena she's number one.But i don't like the idea from the conductor,in this recording.Why this stretta and accellerando improvviso? Verdi he didn't write all this changeng.......
These last comments were comments were guided towards dannymaestro, concerning high notes and Erika Sunnegårdh that I had never heard about until he told me about her. NOT about Ghena Dimitrova who I absolutely worship and adore.
tis have been one of her best roles and I didnt remember any other soprano who have been such gifted for this role (by stamina voicetype and interpretation!)
in the roles she sang Ghena was the best soprano of all !cannot compare her with other sopranoss ..it has no meaning this . and it wasn' t only the enormous sound was getting off her mouth but also the passion ...had the impression she had a fire in her soul !!!
This woman is the best Abigaille and Turandot the world has ever seen. I have immense respect for her art. She was amazing. It's incredible that a soprano with this enormous voice can have such a control and flexibility. Noone sounds like this anymore.
But now there is Erika Sunnegårdh from Sweden. She does this aria excellent and her Turandot is well-known already. Ms Sunnegårdh, by the way, has a astonishing perfect high d. I heard it in a concert last May.
I have never heard of her, but will chech her out. I live in Norway so I guess I should have heard about her, but are more into the old school singers if afraid. Can learn alot from them.
I have a perfekt high E flat, but you have never heard of me... yet. ;) Can also sing high F's and the rapid coloraturas of the Queen of the Night, being a dramatic soprano that should be practically impossible, so D's don't impress me much. Yes, I know, I am bragging, but it's true, so why not mention it? ;)
Well, when you have sung roles as Fidelio, Turandot and Abigaile on stage several times for 5 years or so, please come back and show your perfect E flat. There are many dramatic sopranos today who doesn´t fix the original notes in the roles, such as the four high h in Kundry or the two high c in Elektra.
Her Cinderella story is moving though... but seriously. She's over 40, that's when people can start singing the repertoir she's singing now. If you want a long career, Abigaille, Turandot, Kundry and Elektra is stuff you wait with till you are "old" enough or else the voice wont last. I will be tossing off my perfect high E-flats till way over 40, BECAUSE I'll wait till I'm mature as an artist. I have the time to wait due to my age, obviously. But hers will be my future repertoir.
Last , but not least... Some dramatic sopranos have the great fortune to have a voice that can handle high pitch and rapid movement, but most don't. That means that because some have problems with even something as low as an h, it doesn't mean everyone will. Even Kirsten Flagstad had problems with high notes. Her C was not very good, she admitted that herself. I belong in the other group even though I have a very dark timbre and metallic edge. I guess I am lucky, and God knows I've worked hard!
Dimitrova was an exceptional Abigaille; no other singers kept the role for 30 years. Anyway, the notes you can sing in practice do not necesarily match what you can on stage. I am sure many dramatic sopranos can sing the Queen of the Night at home. However, only few did; All I know are Deutekom and Gulin. Anyway, if you are a dramatic coloratura, an opera house should hire you; start with the roles like, QOTN, Danna Anna, Desdemona and Elsa. QOTN is difficult but not dangerous like Abigaille.
I am learning the part of the Queen of the Night due to interest from abroad. ;) Donna Anna I have been working on for a while, Elisabetta in Maria Stuarda and Lucrezia Borgia, Semiramide... I plan to specialize in the field of dramatic coloratura because I am lucky enough to always be able to sing rapid and nail the high notes, even in concert. ;) High F's as a dramtic soprano is rare, everyone says so, therefore I have been pushed into the QotN from wellmeaning councellors... A career move...
In 1985 Dimitrova gave a fully staged set of highlights from Norma, Turandot and Aida. The audience was thrilled at the end of the scenes and then the real magic happened. As an encore, she sang "Ebben Avrai lontano" from La Wally with melting tone, exquisite phrasing and volume modulation. I and every one else simply gasped in amazement before errupting into applause after this encore.
One of the most magical opera moments I ever had.
un diamante! pazzesca!
sbranami 2 months ago
@Angeleaf mai più .
bodiloto 10 months ago
Una sola parola : SUBLIME !!!
Ghena ci manchi !
Grazie per tutte le emozione che ci hai regalato : non ti dimenticheremo mai !
Grazie !
31122051 1 year ago 2
BRAVSIMA ance alora che gulleghina.....meno male :-P
gustavoanmosura 1 year ago
She is my favourite Abigaille!
institutiemuz 1 year ago 8
yup!
timotko 1 week ago
why did they speed up the end, bel canto (especially Verdi) is WAY more epic slowed down at the end if anything
raigekimaru 1 year ago
Magnífica!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
aristoteles5059 1 year ago
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Zva26 1 year ago
Bravissima!!!!! The best Abigaille!!!
MrLupo23 1 year ago
like Callas once said, don't compare coke to champagne, Dimitrova being the champagne... though Nilsson is great too!
semprecallas 1 year ago
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And thank's to her amazing technique, Nilsson had the ability to produce tones that could last for ever, just listen to her final note in Siegfried, THAT is impressive, and that she could held the high F in pp in Isoldes Liebestod and STILL be perfectly heard on the greatest stages, and cut through the orchestra, THAT is impressive...Dimitrova screamed Turandot.....Evs Turner sang Turandot...Nilsson IS the definitiv Turandot!
Jakopsohn 1 year ago
@Jakopsohn What high F in Liebestod?? LOL
operamusicfan 1 year ago 3
@operamusicfan: I believe the F being referred to is the final soft F at the top of the stave on the word "lust". It's Isolde's final note in the opera.
Zva26 1 year ago
@Zva26 That's an F#5, not a high F. A high F is heard in Der Holle Rache.
operamusicfan 1 year ago 2
@operamusicfan - You are correct, of course. That F6 is unreachable for all sopranos, save for perhaps Callas and Sutherland and possibly Sills in the earliest parts of their respective careers. Of course, any Queen of the Night MUST have them. Singers like Roberta Peters, Rita Streich, Lucia Popp (very early in her career) and Erna Berger immediately come to mind. I knew the note......I just forgot to refer to it in musician's language. My error.
Zva26 1 year ago
@Zva26 ey, actual coloratura sopranos are able to reach it, even after of her operation, Dessay is always capable of doing it, Damrau as well. Dramatic sopranos there are just a few, but not all sopranos are uncapable. Remember that the actual world of sopranos is not only conformed by Netrebko and Georghiu, I believe that the lighter ones deserve a mention.
RoOodOoOloOmeg 1 year ago
@RoOodOoOloOmeg
if Georghiu and Netrebko don't fit your definition of a "light" soprano, I don't know what does.
raigekimaru 1 month ago
@operamusicfan You can call a high F the F5 when speaking about a drammatico or heavy voice..
distefano13069609 1 year ago
like Callas once said, don't compare coke to champagne, Dimitrova being the champagne... though Nilsson is great too!
semprecallas 1 year ago
@Jakopsohn You are kidding right? Dimitrova is the definitive Turandot.
queenslanddiva 1 year ago
@Jakopsohn ridicolo.
bodiloto 9 months ago
Well this is good but I really don't consider Dimitrova as the greatest dramatic soprano ever lived, that is Nilsson becuse she is unbeatable thanks to her Strauss and Wagner. And true, all italian roles didn't fit Nilsson but many did. So overall Nilsson has a LOTS more power than anyone else and yes Nilsson never sang Abigaille on stage, but i agree, i have never heard anyone produce Nilssons high C in this role...actualy, i've never heard anyone beat her high notes ;)
Jakopsohn 1 year ago
@Jakopsohn
Nilsson certainly had the best high notes of any dramatic soprano but her middle voice was much weaker and her tone wasn't warm: Flagstad and Varnay were both better in the Wagner roles in my opinion. She did NOT have much more power than anyone else, just on the top notes. Stop exagerrating.
Matt54e 1 year ago
@Matt54e This isn't true. People who heard Nilsson live say how surprising it was that her voice had much more warmth than on studio recordings and that her middle was amazing. Of course there are all kinds of tastes but IMO Nilsson's voice sounds extremely beautiful and youthful. Her tone isn't rounded velvety like Flagstad's, but those qualities don't equal "power/warmth". Her voice was slimmer and more penetrating, but it had that unsurpassable mix of true metal and a clean lyrical sound.
Homoclassicus 1 year ago
@Jakopsohn You can't really make judgements on the size of a voice through studio recordings, and I'm willing to bet you never saw Nilsson live. No need to exaggerate to try and make a point.
tenor220 1 year ago
i SAW (ALMOST) THEM all. Unfortunately, I missed this lady, whom I consider possibly the greatest dramatic soprant that ever lived. She had a warm, yet powerful voice & thereby was far better suited than Nilsson for Italian opera. Shame she never had the opportunity to be partnwered by a true Italian spinto tenor like the magnificent Franco Corelli.
DonPaolissimo 1 year ago
I never knew that I would be able to miss somebody I never knew. She is incredible! I cannot get enough of her!
tenorcarlos 1 year ago
I totally agree with lozkhris that "The only singer who ever did this better than Ghena was Callas."
MCSQUARED31 1 year ago
Immortale...
deimakina 1 year ago
Fantastica !
institutiemuz 2 years ago 4
БРИЛЯТНО ИЗПЪЛНЕНИЕ НА БЪЛГАРСКАТА ОПЕРНА ПРИМА ГЕНА ДИМИТРОВА!
ninanaidenova1 2 years ago 4
It´s sad that Birgit Nilsson never sang Abigaille on stage, but she did this aria on CD. I have never heard any soprano produce the ending high C with such a power.
gallstax 2 years ago
I think some low notes are not for Nilsson. And also Nilsson doesn't have enough agility. This is an assoluta role. And Nilsson is a dramatico.
yodavidnavarro 2 years ago 3
She is great and such a big beautfiul voice! I also like laure Harken, and Ghuliena. But not like Dimitrova!
HPetrova 2 years ago
operamusicfan : grazie per questo caro ricordo ! nel 1968 ho ascoltato dal vivo La Dimitrova in Nabuco , giovane,bella ,la sua voce era immensa,le pianissimi erano cosi belli che facceva vibbrare l`aria nel teatro,da questa sera nel mio cuore c`e posto soltanto per ....La Dimitrova ! Insuperabile,immortale !ancora una volta, grazie !
bodiloto 2 years ago 3
j'adore,,,,
amneris54 2 years ago 3
moi aussi,,,,
Aetion 2 years ago
Well I say it's the other way around. Callas was good but Dimitrova WAS BETTER. Dimitrova was singing these voice killing roles like Abigail, Turandot, Lady Macbeth and Norma in the 1980's the decade after Callas' death. If Callas had lived into the 80's she would have been too old to sing opera and her voice had already died by the late 70's. The retired, powerless Callas would have been in awe and envy of Dimitrova
MastersoftheOpera 2 years ago 4
You drool envy and venom all over, to the point that is beyond sane criticism....
Dimitrova, who was trully a great artist, was expressly in awe of Callas and would not subscribe to your advocacy!
CONTESTAR 2 years ago 5
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MastersoftheOpera 2 years ago
Verdi knew Ghena would be born sometime in the future and created this role for her AND HER ONLY !!! The only singer who ever did this better than Ghena was Callas.
Forget about all the Netrebkos, Venettas and Scottos. They are no match at all
And Guleghina- pls, do NOT try to sing this piece anymore...EVER !!!!
lozkhris 2 years ago 4
Halleluiah!
Turand0t 2 years ago
Callas didn't do this role so many times to consider she did it better than Dimitrova. I think Nabucco is too big for Callas voice at that time after her weightloss. But any way Callas is a colossal singer and did outstanding performances of so many different roles!
yodavidnavarro 2 years ago 4
Listen to her '49 Napoli recording - she was only 26 years old then and really is great !! Ghena herself admitted that Callas was her all-time teacher and tried to learn fm her all the time / I knew Ghena personally, I've heard this fm her/
But yes, Ghena did Abigaile hundreds of times and actually this role IS / not WAS/ just for her!! That's what I meant
lozkhris 2 years ago
Don't get me wrong! I didn't say that Callas was not a good Abigaille. What I tried to say was that for me iDimitrova is the best in Nabucco by far. But Callas was awesome too. Souliotis did a great job and some others!
yodavidnavarro 2 years ago
Yes, very much true:):)
lozkhris 2 years ago
Das ist super!!!!!
vocede 2 years ago
absolutely miraculous! I wonder if anyone will ever do Abigaille the way Ghena did?
MyBeautifulNose 2 years ago 2
there is a quality to Dimitrova's voice that i cannot get over. Its so round and big sounding and clear as a bell at the same time. great dramatic soprano voice. I wish we still had voices like this today.
musoph21 2 years ago 4
And another great thing about her voice is the surprising agility she could have when she wanted.
yodavidnavarro 2 years ago
I can't find any words! Bravo!
TraVoiBelle 3 years ago
O my God, what a voice and what energy and stamina! Dimitrova is AMAZING, as always! She is a real evil and jealous bitch, just as Abigaille is supposed to be!
corellithebest 3 years ago 2
Great,Great,Great.Ghena she's number one.But i don't like the idea from the conductor,in this recording.Why this stretta and accellerando improvviso? Verdi he didn't write all this changeng.......
nabucco68 3 years ago
The line of her breath is under controll the whole time and the ease of every tome goes just clean like a polished aeroplane!
BRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAVA!
Heraopera 3 years ago 2
These last comments were comments were guided towards dannymaestro, concerning high notes and Erika Sunnegårdh that I had never heard about until he told me about her. NOT about Ghena Dimitrova who I absolutely worship and adore.
Turand0t 3 years ago
Bravissima! Però mi dispiace dirlo ma nel Nabucco , l'insuperabile resta e resterà per sempre la Souliotis!
lantis323f 3 years ago
Beautiful
voxservice 3 years ago
tis have been one of her best roles and I didnt remember any other soprano who have been such gifted for this role (by stamina voicetype and interpretation!)
BRAAAVA!
Only Ghena for Abigaille.......
Heraopera 3 years ago
Io lo so - mai. La Dimitrova era senza paragone.
assindiastignani 3 years ago
Гена-уникальна!такой больше нет.
svkorban 3 years ago 3
in the roles she sang Ghena was the best soprano of all !cannot compare her with other sopranoss ..it has no meaning this . and it wasn' t only the enormous sound was getting off her mouth but also the passion ...had the impression she had a fire in her soul !!!
Phaidra69 3 years ago
MAGNIFICA!
charlieFirenze 3 years ago 14
This woman is the best Abigaille and Turandot the world has ever seen. I have immense respect for her art. She was amazing. It's incredible that a soprano with this enormous voice can have such a control and flexibility. Noone sounds like this anymore.
Turand0t 4 years ago 6
But now there is Erika Sunnegårdh from Sweden. She does this aria excellent and her Turandot is well-known already. Ms Sunnegårdh, by the way, has a astonishing perfect high d. I heard it in a concert last May.
dannymaestro 3 years ago
I have never heard of her, but will chech her out. I live in Norway so I guess I should have heard about her, but are more into the old school singers if afraid. Can learn alot from them.
I have a perfekt high E flat, but you have never heard of me... yet. ;) Can also sing high F's and the rapid coloraturas of the Queen of the Night, being a dramatic soprano that should be practically impossible, so D's don't impress me much. Yes, I know, I am bragging, but it's true, so why not mention it? ;)
Turand0t 3 years ago
Well, when you have sung roles as Fidelio, Turandot and Abigaile on stage several times for 5 years or so, please come back and show your perfect E flat. There are many dramatic sopranos today who doesn´t fix the original notes in the roles, such as the four high h in Kundry or the two high c in Elektra.
dannymaestro 3 years ago
Her Cinderella story is moving though... but seriously. She's over 40, that's when people can start singing the repertoir she's singing now. If you want a long career, Abigaille, Turandot, Kundry and Elektra is stuff you wait with till you are "old" enough or else the voice wont last. I will be tossing off my perfect high E-flats till way over 40, BECAUSE I'll wait till I'm mature as an artist. I have the time to wait due to my age, obviously. But hers will be my future repertoir.
Turand0t 3 years ago
Last , but not least... Some dramatic sopranos have the great fortune to have a voice that can handle high pitch and rapid movement, but most don't. That means that because some have problems with even something as low as an h, it doesn't mean everyone will. Even Kirsten Flagstad had problems with high notes. Her C was not very good, she admitted that herself. I belong in the other group even though I have a very dark timbre and metallic edge. I guess I am lucky, and God knows I've worked hard!
Turand0t 3 years ago
what in the world is this "h" you're talking about?
tenor220 2 years ago
That h happens to be a b in your terminology. In Norway and in Germany (I think) we use that letter for b. maybe other places too.
Turand0t 2 years ago
Ahh thanks for clarifying.
tenor220 2 years ago
Seems like my replies to you end up at the top of the page, so look further up if curious, if not leave it at this.
Turand0t 3 years ago
Dimitrova was an exceptional Abigaille; no other singers kept the role for 30 years. Anyway, the notes you can sing in practice do not necesarily match what you can on stage. I am sure many dramatic sopranos can sing the Queen of the Night at home. However, only few did; All I know are Deutekom and Gulin. Anyway, if you are a dramatic coloratura, an opera house should hire you; start with the roles like, QOTN, Danna Anna, Desdemona and Elsa. QOTN is difficult but not dangerous like Abigaille.
kh3205 3 years ago 2
I am learning the part of the Queen of the Night due to interest from abroad. ;) Donna Anna I have been working on for a while, Elisabetta in Maria Stuarda and Lucrezia Borgia, Semiramide... I plan to specialize in the field of dramatic coloratura because I am lucky enough to always be able to sing rapid and nail the high notes, even in concert. ;) High F's as a dramtic soprano is rare, everyone says so, therefore I have been pushed into the QotN from wellmeaning councellors... A career move...
Turand0t 3 years ago
and moser, how can you omit moser
SiEtIn1 2 years ago
great singer, great artist. she has reviewed her technique 3 times in her life span.monster of valiance and hard work.a reference!
pslogge 4 years ago 2
In 1985 Dimitrova gave a fully staged set of highlights from Norma, Turandot and Aida. The audience was thrilled at the end of the scenes and then the real magic happened. As an encore, she sang "Ebben Avrai lontano" from La Wally with melting tone, exquisite phrasing and volume modulation. I and every one else simply gasped in amazement before errupting into applause after this encore.
One of the most magical opera moments I ever had.
63Attila 4 years ago 4
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Of course this is the studio recording, but again, she doesn't do a single one of the eight trills. The voice, as usual, is trilling though!
Shahrdad 4 years ago
This is not only "sehr gut" This woman was an animal!!! Fantastic!!!!!!!!!!!!
pafnuzzi 4 years ago 5
oh das ist sehr gut
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