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  • un diamante! pazzesca!

  • @Angeleaf mai più .

  • Una sola parola : SUBLIME !!!

    Ghena ci manchi !

    Grazie per tutte le emozione che ci hai regalato : non ti dimenticheremo mai !

    Grazie !

  • BRAVSIMA ance alora che gulleghina.....meno male :-P

  • She is my favourite Abigaille!

  • yup!

  • why did they speed up the end, bel canto (especially Verdi) is WAY more epic slowed down at the end if anything

  • Magnífica!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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  • Bravissima!!!!! The best Abigaille!!!

  • like Callas once said, don't compare coke to champagne, Dimitrova being the champagne... though Nilsson is great too!

  • @Jakopsohn What high F in Liebestod?? LOL

  • @operamusicfan: I believe the F being referred to is the final soft F at the top of the stave on the word "lust". It's Isolde's final note in the opera.

  • @Zva26 That's an F#5, not a high F. A high F is heard in Der Holle Rache.

  • @operamusicfan - You are correct, of course. That F6 is unreachable for all sopranos, save for perhaps Callas and Sutherland and possibly Sills in the earliest parts of their respective careers. Of course, any Queen of the Night MUST have them. Singers like Roberta Peters, Rita Streich, Lucia Popp (very early in her career) and Erna Berger immediately come to mind. I knew the note......I just forgot to refer to it in musician's language. My error.

  • @Zva26 ey, actual coloratura sopranos are able to reach it, even after of her operation, Dessay is always capable of doing it, Damrau as well. Dramatic sopranos there are just a few, but not all sopranos are uncapable. Remember that the actual world of sopranos is not only conformed by Netrebko and Georghiu, I believe that the lighter ones deserve a mention.

  • @RoOodOoOloOmeg

    if Georghiu and Netrebko don't fit your definition of a "light" soprano, I don't know what does.

  • @operamusicfan You can call a high F the F5 when speaking about a drammatico or heavy voice..

  • like Callas once said, don't compare coke to champagne, Dimitrova being the champagne... though Nilsson is great too!

  • @Jakopsohn You are kidding right? Dimitrova is the definitive Turandot.

  • @Jakopsohn ridicolo.

  • Well this is good but I really don't consider Dimitrova as the greatest dramatic soprano ever lived, that is Nilsson becuse she is unbeatable thanks to her Strauss and Wagner. And true, all italian roles didn't fit Nilsson but many did. So overall Nilsson has a LOTS more power than anyone else and yes Nilsson never sang Abigaille on stage, but i agree, i have never heard anyone produce Nilssons high C in this role...actualy, i've never heard anyone beat her high notes ;)

  • @Jakopsohn

    Nilsson certainly had the best high notes of any dramatic soprano but her middle voice was much weaker and her tone wasn't warm: Flagstad and Varnay were both better in the Wagner roles in my opinion. She did NOT have much more power than anyone else, just on the top notes. Stop exagerrating.

  • @Matt54e This isn't true. People who heard Nilsson live say how surprising it was that her voice had much more warmth than on studio recordings and that her middle was amazing. Of course there are all kinds of tastes but IMO Nilsson's voice sounds extremely beautiful and youthful. Her tone isn't rounded velvety like Flagstad's, but those qualities don't equal "power/warmth". Her voice was slimmer and more penetrating, but it had that unsurpassable mix of true metal and a clean lyrical sound.

  • @Jakopsohn You can't really make judgements on the size of a voice through studio recordings, and I'm willing to bet you never saw Nilsson live. No need to exaggerate to try and make a point.

  • i SAW (ALMOST) THEM all. Unfortunately, I missed this lady, whom I consider possibly the greatest dramatic soprant that ever lived. She had a warm, yet powerful voice & thereby was far better suited than Nilsson for Italian opera. Shame she never had the opportunity to be partnwered by a true Italian spinto tenor like the magnificent Franco Corelli.

  • I never knew that I would be able to miss somebody I never knew. She is incredible! I cannot get enough of her!

  • I totally agree with lozkhris that "The only singer who ever did this better than Ghena was Callas."

  • Immortale...

  • Fantastica !

  • БРИЛЯТНО ИЗПЪЛНЕНИЕ НА БЪЛГАРСКАТА ОПЕРНА ПРИМА ГЕНА ДИМИТРОВА!

  • It´s sad that Birgit Nilsson never sang Abigaille on stage,  but she did this aria on CD. I have never heard any soprano produce the ending high C with such a power.

  • I think some low notes are not for Nilsson. And also Nilsson doesn't have enough agility. This is an assoluta role. And Nilsson is a dramatico.

  • She is great and such a big beautfiul voice! I also like laure Harken, and Ghuliena. But not like Dimitrova!

  • operamusicfan : grazie per questo caro ricordo ! nel 1968 ho ascoltato dal vivo La Dimitrova in Nabuco , giovane,bella ,la sua voce era immensa,le pianissimi erano cosi belli che facceva vibbrare l`aria nel teatro,da questa sera nel mio cuore c`e posto soltanto per ....La Dimitrova ! Insuperabile,immortale !ancora una volta, grazie !

  • j'adore,,,,

  • moi aussi,,,,

  • Well I say it's the other way around. Callas was good but Dimitrova WAS BETTER. Dimitrova was singing these voice killing roles like Abigail, Turandot, Lady Macbeth and Norma in the 1980's the decade after Callas' death. If Callas had lived into the 80's she would have been too old to sing opera and her voice had already died by the late 70's. The retired, powerless Callas would have been in awe and envy of Dimitrova

  • You drool envy and venom all over, to the point that is beyond sane criticism....

    Dimitrova, who was trully a great artist, was expressly in awe of Callas and would not subscribe to your advocacy!

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  • Verdi knew Ghena would be born sometime in the future and created this role for her AND HER ONLY !!! The only singer who ever did this better than Ghena was Callas.

    Forget about all the Netrebkos, Venettas and Scottos. They are no match at all

    And Guleghina- pls, do NOT try to sing this piece anymore...EVER !!!!

  • Halleluiah!

  • Callas didn't do this role so many times to consider she did it better than Dimitrova. I think Nabucco is too big for Callas voice at that time after her weightloss. But any way Callas is a colossal singer and did outstanding performances of so many different roles!

  • Listen to her '49 Napoli recording - she was only 26 years old then and really is great !! Ghena herself admitted that Callas was her all-time teacher and tried to learn fm her all the time / I knew Ghena personally, I've heard this fm her/

    But yes, Ghena did Abigaile hundreds of times and actually this role IS / not WAS/ just for her!! That's what I meant

  • Don't get me wrong! I didn't say that Callas was not a good Abigaille. What I tried to say was that for me iDimitrova is the best in Nabucco by far. But Callas was awesome too. Souliotis did a great job and some others!

  • Yes, very much true:):)

  • Das ist super!!!!!

  • absolutely miraculous! I wonder if anyone will ever do Abigaille the way Ghena did?

  • there is a quality to Dimitrova's voice that i cannot get over. Its so round and big sounding and clear as a bell at the same time. great dramatic soprano voice. I wish we still had voices like this today.

  • And another great thing about her voice is the surprising agility she could have when she wanted.

  • I can't find any words! Bravo!

  • O my God, what a voice and what energy and stamina! Dimitrova is AMAZING, as always! She is a real evil and jealous bitch, just as Abigaille is supposed to be!

  • Great,Great,Great.Ghena she's number one.But i don't like the idea from the conductor,in this recording.Why this stretta and accellerando improvviso? Verdi he didn't write all this changeng.......

  • The line of her breath is under controll the whole time and the ease of every tome goes just clean like a polished aeroplane!

    BRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAVA!

  • These last comments were comments were guided towards dannymaestro, concerning high notes and Erika Sunnegårdh that I had never heard about until he told me about her. NOT about Ghena Dimitrova who I absolutely worship and adore.

  • Bravissima! Però mi dispiace dirlo ma nel Nabucco , l'insuperabile resta e resterà per sempre la Souliotis!

  • Beautiful

  • tis have been one of her best roles and I didnt remember any other soprano who have been such gifted for this role (by stamina voicetype and interpretation!)

    BRAAAVA!

    Only Ghena for Abigaille.......

  • Io lo so - mai. La Dimitrova era senza paragone.

  • Гена-уникальна!такой больше нет.

  • in the roles she sang Ghena was the best soprano of all !cannot compare her with other sopranoss ..it has no meaning this . and it wasn' t only the enormous sound was getting off her mouth but also the passion ...had the impression she had a fire in her soul !!!

  • MAGNIFICA!

  • This woman is the best Abigaille and Turandot the world has ever seen. I have immense respect for her art. She was amazing. It's incredible that a soprano with this enormous voice can have such a control and flexibility. Noone sounds like this anymore.

  • But now there is Erika Sunnegårdh from Sweden. She does this aria excellent and her Turandot is well-known already. Ms Sunnegårdh, by the way, has a astonishing perfect high d. I heard it in a concert last May.

  • I have never heard of her, but will chech her out. I live in Norway so I guess I should have heard about her, but are more into the old school singers if afraid. Can learn alot from them.

    I have a perfekt high E flat, but you have never heard of me... yet. ;) Can also sing high F's and the rapid coloraturas of the Queen of the Night, being a dramatic soprano that should be practically impossible, so D's don't impress me much. Yes, I know, I am bragging, but it's true, so why not mention it? ;)

  • Well, when you have sung roles as Fidelio, Turandot and Abigaile on stage several times for 5 years or so, please come back and show your perfect E flat. There are many dramatic sopranos today who doesn´t fix the original notes in the roles, such as the four high h in Kundry or the two high c in Elektra.

  • Her Cinderella story is moving though... but seriously. She's over 40, that's when people can start singing the repertoir she's singing now. If you want a long career, Abigaille, Turandot, Kundry and Elektra is stuff you wait with till you are "old" enough or else the voice wont last. I will be tossing off my perfect high E-flats till way over 40, BECAUSE I'll wait till I'm mature as an artist. I have the time to wait due to my age, obviously. But hers will be my future repertoir.

  • Last , but not least... Some dramatic sopranos have the great fortune to have a voice that can handle high pitch and rapid movement, but most don't. That means that because some have problems with even something as low as an h, it doesn't mean everyone will. Even Kirsten Flagstad had problems with high notes. Her C was not very good, she admitted that herself. I belong in the other group even though I have a very dark timbre and metallic edge. I guess I am lucky, and God knows I've worked hard!

  • what in the world is this "h" you're talking about?

  • That h happens to be a b in your terminology. In Norway and in Germany (I think) we use that letter for b. maybe other places too.

  • Ahh thanks for clarifying.

  • Seems like my replies to you end up at the top of the page, so look further up if curious, if not leave it at this.

  • Dimitrova was an exceptional Abigaille; no other singers kept the role for 30 years. Anyway, the notes you can sing in practice do not necesarily match what you can on stage. I am sure many dramatic sopranos can sing the Queen of the Night at home. However, only few did; All I know are Deutekom and Gulin. Anyway, if you are a dramatic coloratura, an opera house should hire you; start with the roles like, QOTN, Danna Anna, Desdemona and Elsa. QOTN is difficult but not dangerous like Abigaille.

  • I am learning the part of the Queen of the Night due to interest from abroad. ;) Donna Anna I have been working on for a while, Elisabetta in Maria Stuarda and Lucrezia Borgia, Semiramide... I plan to specialize in the field of dramatic coloratura because I am lucky enough to always be able to sing rapid and nail the high notes, even in concert. ;) High F's as a dramtic soprano is rare, everyone says so, therefore I have been pushed into the QotN from wellmeaning councellors... A career move...

  • and moser, how can you omit moser

  • great singer, great artist. she has reviewed her technique 3 times in her life span.monster of valiance and hard work.a reference!

  • In 1985 Dimitrova gave a fully staged set of highlights from Norma, Turandot and Aida. The audience was thrilled at the end of the scenes and then the real magic happened. As an encore, she sang "Ebben Avrai lontano" from La Wally with melting tone, exquisite phrasing and volume modulation. I and every one else simply gasped in amazement before errupting into applause after this encore.

    One of the most magical opera moments I ever had.

  • This is not only "sehr gut" This woman was an animal!!! Fantastic!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • oh das ist sehr gut

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