Another friggin' activist type. He misses the opportunity to educate those who enforce the law. He starts out by failing to carry his ID so he is already suspect. He refuses to give his name and the SCotUS has already affirmed that a person must identify themselves when asked. He was in violation of that if not for the open carry.
Jerks like this give all of us a bad smell and the cops will lump us all into the same mold. He does all of us a disservice and empowers the anti-firearms activists.
@jimpeel His chief didn't agree when he saw the video and the officer received a reprimand. Of course he wanted a formal complaint so the reprimand would have more "force" but he never received the copy as well as two lawyers wanted to take the town/officer to court for this incident and were both going to do it pro-bono.
@jimpeel He's is fully in the right to do wut he is doing, dipshit.... we need to show police they cant just push us around & that we DO in fact have rights!!!! Do EXACTLY as he did in the same situation!
@jimpeel I have to say I think your view of this is a little warped, why should someone have to show ID randomly whenever a cop wants it? You realize upon seeing your ID they know they have jurisdiction over you. Those activist types are the only reason the rest of the world doesn't think america is completely friggin retarted. The activists are the only people left in america with a brain.
@jimpeel Would you cite teh SCotUS ruling on that? Because I'm sure you're wrong. Now, if you live in a State that has a "Stop and ID" law, that is true. However, most don't. My State does not, and I do NOT have to present my ID to a LEO unless he can tell me what crime he can "Reasonably Articulate" that I am commissioning or am about to commission. Even then I only have to give my name and information, I'm not required to show any ID.
I have been in Law Enforcement for 17 years and I will say this. This officer was way out of line! I would file a complaint against him. You don't talk to people like that. Guys like this are why people hate the police these days.
The cop responded to the complaint, chewed you out for not carrying your I.D. then let you go... Im still struggling with what was "wrong" with this officers actions...
@MegaDuke1 So if I call the police because I don't like the color of their clothes or think it clashes the police should investigate? There is nothing unlawful carrying a firearm and the attorney general in my state has stated that a persons annoyance/alarm at the sight of a firearm doesn't override my Right to carry a firearm. Therefor I was stopped for the equivalent of wearing what I wanted or expressing my freedom speech or religion.
@OpenCarryNH Well... yeah, the police are not the law, they are law enforcement, they need to respond to complaints to see if the law is being broken, they did, saw that you (although being a dick) were NOT in fact breaking the law, then left.... again, what did these officers do wrong aside from the potty mouth?
@MegaDuke1 I (and any non-felon, etc in New Hampshire) have a right to carry a firearm, openly or concealed (if so licensed). Another person has a right to be scared at that. HOWEVER their right to be scared does NOT override my right to carry a firearm. As the officer had no cause to believe I was committed a crime the officer was the one in the wrong, not me. Nothing in the above; not in New Hampshire "law" require to me carry an ID nor identify myself.
@OpenCarryNH An officer cant tell if you're a felon by looking at you, I think your little speech at the beginnning tells us clearly your intentions here "Gonna go for a 2 for 1 here". Youre attempt to be controversial is a sophomoric cry for attention that is a tremendous, and potentially dangerous waste of everyones time... I see you getting as ridiculous as the "ridley report" has become in the near future.
Please switch to a topic of activism that actually matters... Thank you.
The police have the right to make sure your gun is legal. You can't just walk around with a gun visible and not even a drivers licence on you, you moron. You're doing nothing to protect yours or anyone elses rights. You're just starting crap with police and posting it on youtube so you can say "look how persecuted I am, poor me". You're not being persecuted. The cops are just doing their jobs. Would you rather they didn't respond at all to people walking around with guns?? You're retarded.
@Mattm1986 Actually no they don't have the right to make sure anything is illegal unless they have reason to believe it isn't and they can't lawfully assume everything is illegal. And I have no need to carry any ID on my when I go anywhere (at least in New Hampshire). If they did I'd have been arrested; not just let go after harassment. Considering there is nothing illegal will walking around with a gun; yes I would rather them not responding to everyone carrying a gun.
@Mattm1986 Walking around and carrying a gun is a RIGHT. Even the attorney general in New Hampshire has stated: "another persons annoyance or alarm at the sight of a gun does not override a persons right to carry a gun."
I know its a right. But you look like an asshole when you go around intentionally trying to get stopped. And when you do you act like you're being persecuted. Isn't that what you wanted? You're not doing anything worthwhile. Get a fucking hobby or a job or something.
@Mattm1986 - We ARE being persecuted every day. The police are CIVILIANS, they are not FEDERAL, and even if they were, they have no POWER OVER a sovereign citizen of NH. Added, which was said numerous times already -it's not against the law to open carry, and you DO NOT have to show papers and ID upon request if no crime has been committed. It's simple: the police have to work FOR us, and not respond to calls made about citizens exercising their RIGHT to open carry. End of story. ;)
@Mattm1986 .. you said,"I know its a right. But you look like an asshole when you go around intentionally trying to get stopped."
Umm .. if its a right then why is he being stopped? Probably because the asshole doesn't know or care what his Rights Are, or what the law says,.. he just wants to punish someone for doing something only an asshole would think is bad based on his opininon, being an asshole, & an uneducated asshole @ that, seeing as his JOB is to uphold a citizens rights... Asshole..
@Mattm1986 You need to learn the law. It's frustrating to see such stupidity from a dunce like yourself, which probably goes a long way in explaining why our country is about to hit the shits.
@Mattm1986 You're retarded. Know your rights. This officer certainly know his rights and the law. Even if the cop is doing his job, he doesn't need to be like this.
I don't know what's more kick ass, the fact that you're open carrying or the fact that you left your I.D. in your kilt....either way, keep up the good work!
@thegrunt69 Why would you need to detain someone who is not breaking a single damn rule? The fact here is half of you cops don't know the rules and then try and pull something out of your ass like this "72 hour rule". You can use that rule when you have caught someone breaking the law.
@kunzy3000 you knew you wouldn't accomplish anything right? first off, some of us have been, or are, police. so the people you think are going to be your allys may not be. second, did you honestly thing calling the police "pig" was so original that you had to explain what you meant?
@301gunnar "you can't do this nonsense in the post 9/11 world you twit" did you not post that? you were out working all night to make a fraction of what i make in 8 hours on the computer. and the "real man" comment was funny, i'll give you that. are you american? america is run by democrats today for better or worse, therefor, they're your dems too. do you think the country just pauses when things aren't going your way?
@301gunnar first off, you brought up 9/11. second, guess what, no matter how much you wish they weren't, their YOUR democrats too. just because you lost, doesn't mean you get to say you're not american. i see you as some fat guys with a pimply ass sitting at a computer sweating just to hit each key while switching between youtube and bestiality porn. should i have called you that even though it has nothing to do with the conversation at hand? and junior to jaded in a paragraph? thats just funny.
@301gunnar so it's not okay for me to "hide behind" my bill of rights? but it is okay for police to hide behind their badges without knowing the extent of their power? you're the one saying people can't do this because of 9/11 and IM the one associating this argument with terrorism? thats not spinning. i took the conversation through a gate YOU opened. and do you honestly think calling me a "leftist spin doctor" is insulting? try conversing instead of just spouting unoriginal political insults.
@301gunnar so you expect to post something telling someone NOT to enjoy being american, then give me a "left hook" when i question you? and by the way, you never addressed my question. you heard something you didn't like, and responded with a horribly unoriginal insult... are you expecting me to respond, "I am rubber, you are glue..."? have we regressed that far? so, without insults this time: are you saying we shouldn't exercise our rights, because someone attacked us for having those rights?
@301gunnar Silence is not a crime. so if a cop were to approach a mute, the mute would be in non-compliance? i agree that when open carrying you need to be ready to deal with police, but there is absolutely NO law requiring you to speak when approached by police. if open carry is legal, local PD should know this. i understand approaching someone who is carrying, but acting the way this officer did is unreasonable. of course, being aggressive the way the civilian did doesn't help either..
@301gunnar yes, they can inquire(ask), and they CAN detain you. but through the whole ordeal, you dont have to say shit. its the 5th amendment. look it up before you post incomplete information as a response.
@301gunnar next time po-po wants to violate your rights feel free to roll over and stick your butt in the air some people have real belief in the constitution. you dont have to prove anything to anybody including cops. you would assume a cop knows this.
@301gunnar I live in reality. See up in NY, you treat yourselves as special because you live in a major city. You aren't special. You actually restrict rights because of your fear of guns.
And I *DO* open carry where I live, and I would never ID myself because I am not required to do so, nor is it the concern of the officer. If I commit no crimes, I have no need to ID myself.
I don't partner with LE. My duty as a citizen is to question authority - not go along with it and be a sheep.
@301gunnar So the cop should have threatened lethal force on a citizen showing no aggression and who is breaking no laws? Right. I live in the United States. Where do you live?
@Rayven10 You live in a country where a 40 year old mother can pretend to be a 13 year old boy and talk a 13 year old girl over the computer and convince her to hang herself, then got off the hook because it was her "right to free speech". So are you going to go out convincing little kids to hang themselves because its your right? I thought either you had the right or you dont, so you need to defend it no matter what?
@Rayven10 Oh ok, seeing how YOU said she was violating his rights, ill just go ahead and believe it right? Care to add on to that and maybe say HOW her rights were violated? All this talk about not obeying authority and not bowing down... yet you expect me to just accept your answer of " Oh, well that doesnt count"? Thats a little ignorant, dont you think?
I'd rather fight to my death to protect my rights, liberties and freedom then give into some COP who merely doesn't like the fact that someone is openly carrying a gun.
@Gopheur New Hampshire doesn't have a permit system for firearms (except hunting). You do however need a license to carry a loaded firearm in a vehicle. Hopefully that will change in 2011.
@301gunnar No, whether you agree or not, "this guy" is doing nothing more than exercising his rights. If anything, he should have not given ANY information and just remained silent.
The more rights we give away, the less we will ever have. While it is obvious he went out looking for police to give him a hard time, they should have never given him that opportunity if they were following the law.
@Rayven10 see, i just dont agree with that. A cop hassles you for no reason and you refuse to give your information, thats standing up for your rights. A cop tries to make you let him search you, and you refuse, standing up for your rights.
You strap a pistol and rifle to yourself and walk up and down a highway until you get stopped. That is not "exercising your rights". Its flaunting them and testing the waters, so you can put a video of yourself on youtube and get attention. end of story.
@tronclay If you are within your rights to "strap a pistol and rifle to yourself and walk up and down a highway", then you are indeed exercising your rights. I myself have tested the waters regarding open carry and I have been stopped by the police.
Because I knew I was legal, I said virtually nothing as per my rights.
What I don't understand is why you would state that refusing a search is standing up for your rights, but legally carrying a firearm isn't. That doesn't make sense.
@Rayven10 What i dont understand is how any sane person who isnt bullshitting themselves or others could say that arming yourself and going out LOOKING TO BE STOPPED BY WALKING UP AND DOWN A HIGHWAY is the same as legally carrying a firearm for protection through the normal course of your day.
Man arms himself to lure an ignorant cop into providing a good show for his youtube fans.
Man arms himself to defend himself and his family.
@tronclay Because at worst, he should have been bored by walking around. What he did was legal, so the cops should have left him alone, and his video would be pointless. Instead, he videoed a cop violating his rights.
Just because you disagree with his actions doesn't make it illegal. I open carry a firearm, and I have had police interactions because of it, even though it is legal. He chooses to make a point of how police harass those acting legally, and that is his right.
@Rayven10 Once again, you fail to admit the obvious fact that he is doing what he is doing simply to bring attention to himself, so he can get an uneducated, ignorant cop to make an ass out of himself so he can have a juicy video to put on youtube.
You just will not bring yourself to say it, why? Because the second you admit hes out doing this shit on purpose even you cant justify it to yourself in your own mind, and thats sad.
Its their right to freedom of speech, so you must think what they do is ok right? You agree with them and their right to try and destroy the emotions of grieving families of soliders who died to defend all the rights you love so much?
@Rayven10 My point is that its common sense to any sane intelligent human being that the Law is not a way to tell you whats right and wrong, just whats legal and illegal. Having the right to freedom of speech does not make every act regarding that freedom "right", it just makes it legal. Having the right to bear arms does not make every act of bearing arms "Right".
This is an example. A man out to waste peoples time so that he can have an interesting youtube video.
@tronclay And my point is that either we have rights or we don't. We are obligated to protect the rights of everyone - especially those you disagree with. Otherwise, we are nothing but schoolyard bullies, telling people how exactly they should live their own lives and conduct their personal business.
Whether you consider this right or wrong, he broke no laws. He should have been treated as such - civilized society demands as much.
@Rayven10 I just cant understand how any intelligent person considers this man some "freedom fighter", he is EXACTLY why cops and the government DONT WANT US AROUND. People like this asshole dont help everyone, they set us back. Your "follow all laws obediently no matter what, because its the law" attitude makes zero sense whatsoever..... back when it was illegal for black people to vote.... would you be the idiot saying "Oh well ya know... its the law guys, sorry."???
@tronclay Wow, you have no idea about anything I believe in or stand for. I absolutely do not like the "follow all laws obediently" mentality. I violate laws all the time if they don't make sense. If anything, I'm a strong advocate for freedom and liberty.
That's why I back this guy. Is he looking for confrontation? Yes. But he isn't breaking any laws or violating the rights of others so he shouldn't be able to even *find* confrontation.
@Rayven10 So you are saying that it doesnt matter if something is right or wrong, just if its legal? Like the westboro baptist church who legally stands outside of dead soldiers funerals holding signs that say
"God killed your faggot soldier"
"soldiers are fags"
and my favorite
"faggoty fag soldier fag"
You would hold up signs like that just because its legal? You agree with their cause just because they do it legally?
@Rayven10 ummm.... the states can overturn the ammendments now? Sorry but thats not something ive heard of, maybe you could send me a link to where you read that a state could overturn the first ammendment right to free speech if they see fit?
My question is why do you roll over and obey anything thats "legal"? I just dont understand the mindset of "Well its legal, it must be ok"
Years ago women, and even blacks as a whole, could not vote. So you are saying back then you would have agreed?
@tronclay No, they cannot. The Supreme Court ruled that states can limit rights for various reasons. No yelling fire in a theater, permits to carry a firearm, etc.
I don't roll over and obey what is legal. We all break the law almost every day in some way. I have no problem standing up for what I think is right, and I've even gotten a few local laws changed because of it.
What I'm saying is that if you have the right to do something, you should not be impeded by the police. Period.
@Rayven10 Well thats the thing, we were talking about WBBC and them "preaching" about dead soldiers. You say that if we, the people, dont like it we can vote to change the laws. If you were saying we could change their ability to preach, you are wrong and thats what i was referring to.
You say you have no problem standing up for what you think is right, yet you said you agree with their right to divebomb funeral services. Our soldiers arent worth standing up for? But gun carry in a park is?
@Rayven10 it seems like you are so interested in this little anti-cop mindset/lifestyle (trust me, you arent the first and you wont be the last, i can search up any gun forum and find hundreds of people just like you) that you only care about one thing: not being hassled by the cops. You dont really care so much about whats "right or wrong", just what power you hold over someone who you previously thought to have all the power over you.
@tronclay Well, you are correct on at least one thing: it's about power. The people have it, the government gets it from us. I am exerting the power I have to enforce my rights, and I enjoy the power I have to push for my rights.
I'm not anti-cop at all, by the way. I'm anti-cop-who-overexerts-his-power. Cops who are honorable and don't abuse their power and/or harass citizens for no reason are cops I respect and have no problems with.
@Rayven10 Im guessing whatever the most common forum/youtube opinion is the one you have. You say you dont respect cops that abuse their power... what about citizens who abuse their power? OH no they are just fine huh?
You really have no argument here. "I have the power to do it, so thats why I do it." is a sentiment probably shared with all the great evils of our time... Hitler, Stalin.... even serial killers, or bad cops. All do what they do just because they can, and you differ in what way?
@tronclay I'm sorry that I have no qualms with people who enforce the rights they are endowed with instead of rolling over because it's the "nice thing to do".
My rights are inalienable, and so I use the rights whenever I see fit. That's how this country is supposed to work.
And seriously - Hitler and Stalin? They were government thugs who abused government power. If you can't see the difference, I am very sorry for you.
I'm done with you - you obviously are OK in cowering in fear.
@Rayven10 Only an idiot equates not wanting to walk up and down a highway with a rifle and pistol on my side to "rolling over".
You are just a grown up child who found a new way to "play", except you would rather play with something that can kill people.
Im sorry but there is no other answer for you, if you think walking up and down the street with a rifle and pistol as an event in and of itself is what our forefathers had in mind by giving us our rights then you are a fucking fool.
@tronclay Either you are for standing up for your rights and the rights of others, or you are not. Disagree with his method, but his rationale still stands.
Enjoy being an imbecile. Reply if you'd like, I'm not even going to read it.
@Rayven10 An imbecile? You are just another bullshit "rights activist" who doesnt do jackshit but sit on his computer admiring idiots who wear firearms just to bring attention to themselves. Do you fight in the military? Ill assume not and go ahead and say that because you dont fight for the country, you fight against it. Do you help local charities and your community? Ill assume not and say that you are now officially against charities and communities.
@Rayven10 You are the fuckin moron saying stupid forum-popular bullshit like
"If you arent fighting FOR your rights, you are fighting AGAINST THEM!!!!"
Please pal. Pull your head out of your pompous ass long enough to look yourself in the mirror and see what kind of fucking fool you are.
Trying to claim you are some gift to your city for walking around (probably) acting like a dink with a gun, then you stick up for stupid pricks like this guy and it lets people know how idiotic you are.
@Rayven10 Also i wouldnt be trying the "civilized society" angle seeing how there is nothing civilized about arming yourself up so you can shoot a fucking youtube video.
"Civilized" would have been this man midning his own business, doing his daily business, getting pulled over for it, and being calm, cool and collected while putting the ignorant cop in his place.
But thats not how it went, is it? He went out LOOKING FOR THE TROUBLE in NO uncertain terms. He SEEKS OUT CONFrONTATION.
Doobie you're my hero! And to the critics, it's not for attention. It's to make a point- has it occurred to anyone that he started filming because he was being detained unlawfully, and not the other way around?
@amykomatic He didnt start filming while being detained,did you even watch the video? He starts it by mentioning how hes going to TRY and get stopped for the second time in one day, he then cuts over to when he starts filming as he sees the cop.
Being stopped/detained during the course of your normal, everyday activites and standing up for your rights is making a point... Going out just to draw attention to yourself soyou can embarrass some idiot cop is just ignorant.
@tronclay Um, yeah I watched the video. This isn't his first video- I meant that he started filming, in general, on various occasions in various places because he had been stopped for doing nothing wrong. Being stopped at some point in the past is what triggered his idea to film more of his walks- that's what I meant. He was being stopped/detained during the course of your normal, everyday activities which is why he one day started filming his everyday activities. Was I more clear that time?
@amykomatic Well,as clear as you may or may have not been, i think you are still wrong. Walking up and down a highway with a rifle and a pistol isnt an everyday activity. Unless he does in fact make it a habit of looking for trouble EVERYDAY, but i still dont think that makes him seem any better.
Exercising his constitutional rights is nonsense to you?
As B. Franklin said, " Those that would give up their freedoms for a little security deserve neither. "
Maybe you think we should live under martial law because of one terrorist act but I don't. You don't like guns, don't have or carry one. Just don't try to impose your paranoia onto others.
The cop didn't "draw down" on him because the cop had no legal grounds to do so.
@yoyo762 Its our right to to bear arms and when situations arise and people are wrongfully held/arrested, its great when someone gets it on tape. This is not one of these situations. The man dresses and equips himself in a way to specifically draw attention to himself, for the distinct and specific goal of prompting phone calls and, hopefully, a run in with the police so he can record his superior knowlege of the law to some idiot cop.
@tronclay Yeah, that Rosa Parks went and did something in a way to specifically draw attention to herself, for the distinct and specific goal of prompting phone calls and, hopefully, a run in with police.
the cop was clearly responding from a bruised ego rather than an objective to uphold the law. see how the cop was trying to pick a fight with the man - this is their tactic more people should stand up to belligerent cops like this. we the people have this right and since the police have stopped protecting and serving and started preying upon the public for income we need to exercise our right to carry arms.
I agree the guy is a joke. There is no clear shot of the "police" whatsoever although i do suspect they were real, i didnt SEE them. The little copmobile out in the distance could also have been recorded like that in any situation. We dont have to take this guy's word for it. Furthermore he actually ADMITS he doesnt have his drivers license, and he WOULD have driven if he werent concerned about being pulled over.
@TextCannon Usually my drivers license is left in the car. At the time I was interacting with the officer I thought it was and it wasn't until later that I realized it was in my house since I had taken it out two days earlier when I was at a bar.
@TextCannon How can you doubt he's been stopped when the police are in so many other videos? Anyway lots of OCers dont carry a drivers license on them, its called sterile carry. They cant ask for what you dont have.
i agree with a lot of these open and concealed carry videos, but this guy is a joke. You can tell within the first 3 minutes that this is all a game to him. He goes out with the strict intent of bringing attention to himself and getting stopped by the police.
@yoyo762 negroes? They are called black people, dont be such an old fuck, times change.
And as far as your question goes, were the people who looked like gangbangers dressing that way JUST to get attention from the cops? Did they start up their youtube video by saying "hmm lets go for a two-for-one today guys", meaning hes TRYING to get stopped for a second time that day.
>>>TRYING<<< to get stopped.
The police are idiots and need re-educating, but guys like this are simply idiotic.
@yoyo762 so not only is your comment racist, but its pretty ignorant as well. You cant compare two people doing two completely different things for two completely different reasons, it just doesnt work. One person dresses a certain way for fashion reasons, and one person dresses a certain ay, and goes walking up and down the street TRYING to get the cops to stop him.
Why? Because the guy is a loser with nothing to do who wants attention, using the "Its my right" cop-out to justify himself.
@tronclay The term negroe is derived from the anthropological classification of negroid. Get over it. The ignorance is yours. And I see you can't wait to play the race card as well. It only took a few lines before that appeared.
So peacefully and quietly exercising his rights is " getting cops attention" ?
So you think dressing as a gangbanger is a "fashion statement" ? I might call it an attempt at intimidation and trying to get cops attention.
@yoyo762 *Calling Negroe to a black person can be considered a racist insult. this word is referred by these words like moor or berber from north africa.*
Well, Cletus, the urban dictionary seems to think you are as much of a racist prick as i do. Regardless of how terms originate, this is 2010 and times change, so dont the meanings and acceptance of certain words or terms. Get over it.
And how do you have the balls to talk to me about playing the race card after saying some ignorant yourself?
@yoyo762 are you actively denying this man was doing what he did for attention? The first 3 seconds of the video you can hear him say "Well i think ill go for a two-for-one today"...... i just dont see how after hearing that you can argue in any way, shape or form that this man is doing this for attention. The constitution and the laws are irrelevant to the REASONING behind this man doing what hes doing. You are just another blind, ignorant racist fuckup.
@yoyo762 you sit here claimingto not be racist yet lookat your comments. "Negroes always" How the fuck is that not racist? Do you really believe its not racist or is this just part of your whole white supremecist game? If you claim all people of one race do anything based on their race then that is RACISM. Do you really need a fucking definition here? You are like alittle kid putting his finger on someone else and going "But im not touching him im not touching him!!!"
@yoyo762 You said "negroes immediately go to the racial aspect opf every debate"
So my quote should have read "Negroes immediately...".
The point is you believe that every single african american on the planet thinks and acts a certain way because they have "different DNA".
Seriously... im not sure whats up with this slew of "upper class educated" type acting like COMPLETE racist pricks but trying to be "proper" about it because they dont want to be "politically incorrect"....
@yoyo762 lol you spout your racist hillbilly bullshit about all black people acting and thinking the same, and then you whine about me doing it to you? Are you kidding me bud? You can read the minds of blacks because you are some master race, but i cant do the same to you? Now you are getting whiny, time to man up.
@yoyo762 You go around calling people negroes, then when someone gets offended THEY are playing the race card....??? Yeah i just dont understand the "logic" behind that.
Im curious, are you here to just act like some snide little asshole, or do you honestly believe the things you say?
"You "might" believe that "gangbangers" dress a certain way to intimidate? But a guy walking up and down a busy highway carrying a rifle and pistol ISNT trying to intimidate?
@tronclay The intimidation part is your interpretation of his actions.
You seem incapable of grasping the constitutional and legal rights involved with his actions. You don't like it, tough. People don't like it, tough.
Apparently your here to represent the side, asshole, negroe gangbanger element.
I'll bet a negroe like you gets hysterical about police abuse of rights when you're stopped in a clean, white neighborhood. Then suddenly rights mean something, eh.
Im black now? So in your world, its only black people who dislike racism? Where do you live, Alabama? Im as white as a sheet of paper, i just have common sense and decency, something you obviously lack.
Do you know why we have rights? So we can be free, and ave options when we NEED them. They didnt fight and DIE for our rights so some guy on his day off could walk up and down the highway looking for attention.
How do you know he wanted attention from the police?
He simply stated his experience with cops hassling him when he exercised his rights.
My rights are in effect at ALL times, not just when I need them. Or rather than when some holier than thou like yourself determines their use to be appropriate.
@yoyo762 Its funny how you have notonce acknowledged himsaying "lets go for a two-for-one today" when referring to getting stopped by the police. Why do you not mention it? Because you have no way to refute it. Now that we have that settled.... You think i am acting "holier than thou" by pointing out that this guy is indeed TRYING TO GET POLICE ATTENTION. I just dont understand why that doesnt get through to you.
Excercizing your rights > Flaunting your rights to bring attention to yourself.
@yoyo762 Until you address this mans desire to gain the attention of the public and local police JUST to have a confrontation to record and place on Youtube, then you have lost. He can legally do what hes doing nobody is questioning that exceptthe public who dont know better andthe uneducated idiot cops who like to cause trouble. But thats not the issue, the issue is going out of his way to purposely cause a commotion. Hes not just walking to his favorite hunting/target spot etc...
@yoyo762 Again, rereading your comments its clear you are just another dime-a-dozen "WHITE POWER WHITE POWER YOURE A NIGGER GIVE ME MY JOBS BACK Oh but im not racist,how absurd." type of wackjob idiot who feels that because he was born white, that its the best and everything else is wrong or inferior.
Like most racists, you have done nothing in your life to give yourself that sense of self worth, so you need to create it out of thin air and claim you were born "the right way".
@yoyo762 Proud of your heritage hahaha..... 2010 term for being a scumbag racist.
Being proud of yourself and your heritage is fine UNTIL it moves on to hating OTHERS because of THEIRS.
How does this not compute to you, if you apparently educated? Your girlfriend left you for a black guy? A black guy beat you up once? robbed you? Or are you just a hateful and spiteful idiot?
And are you seriously that lacking in comebacks that you need to try and accuse me of not being white? Wow.
@yoyo762 Once again, you decline to comment about the mans intention to draw police to himself, strictly so he can document it and put it on youtube.
Lets me guess, when he said "im gonna go for a two-for-one" he meant a meal deal at Denny's right?
So like i said many times, you lost. So why dont you video record yourself exerting your right to free speech by calling black people their "anthropological names" and post the results?
@tronclay The guy shows illegal police intervention to educate and inform the public and to you he just wants attention. Todays technology allows small independant people to show, unfiltered through libtard media, how events go in the real world.
He did not force the cops to do anything. The cops initiated the confrontation.
He does us a public service with an video education . But to you its all a publicity stunt.
Don't watch it if you don't like it. Stay ignorant.
@yoyo762 Haha. Youare so into this shit that you are just blinded to the fact that this guy is an arrogant douchebag out to get peoples attention. Its a game to him. You act as if he is some revolutionary out to educate the world yadayadayada... Bullshit. There are hundreds of jackasses just like him that go out LOOKING FOR ATTENTION. I just dont understand how you are arguing against that. He wasnt hunting or going to the range, he doesnt carry a rifle for self defense normally = Attention
@tronclay Speaking of going for attention, that Rosa Parks really just wanted attention from cops when she refused to move to the back of the bus.
Ya know, if she just acquiesce to societal norms, she wouldn't have been bothered by police. She was just one of hundreds of jackasses who go looking for attention.
You have to agree that what she did she did for attention, that old douchebag of a woman. So arrogant, doing things she knows will invite the cops to the scene.
@yoyo762 are you kidding me? You are comparing an elderly blackwoman who would not relinquish her bus seat toa white woman,to a man who suited up his ar-15 and tactical vest to go for a little stroll, for the sole reason of drawing attention to himself and prompt a situation with the police.
Rosa parks was doing her NORMAL everyday shit and living her life and stood up for herself. This guy treats police interaction as some kind of hobby, a game.
@yoyo762 I dislike guns now? Wow this keeps getting better and better. Werent you just crying like a hurt little bitch about me "telling you the way you felt" about shit? Now you claim im against guns? Please bucko, grow up.
I believe in the right to bear arms and would carry everyday if i could, open and concealed.
But you wont find me going out looking to bring attention to myself.
"Looking to bring attention to myself"
As in, for no other reason than to gain said attention.
@yoyo762 Im not sure how i am ignorant for seeing the clear and concise difference between an 80 year old black woman not giving up her "white only bus seat" and some guy carrying his firearms up and down the street TO PURPOSELY DRAW ATTENTION TO HIMSELF.
DDUUUUUURRRRRRRRRRRRRR. I mean what the fuck else will get through to you?
Woman stands up for her human rights as they are violated > man looking for confrontation so he may express his rights and knowledge of law to some ignorant cop.
@tronclay The only thing he is drawing attention to is the unlawfull detainment and harrassment by police to those exercising their 2nd amendment rights.
Its sad you feel exposing such illegal behaivior by cops to be some selfish endevour.
Think about it for a moment. If nobody bothered him, he would have nothing of interest to show and likely wouldn't show it.
You clearly try to slant his actions as personal attention when in fact, its for a greater, constitutional education purpose
@yoyo762 I clearly slant his actions? No you moron, he slanted himself within the first 5 seconds of the video as he explained his desire to attempt to be stopped by the police for the SECOND time that day.
Do you honestly think the way to educate officers about the law is to walk around trying to cause a scene? You cannot argue that he isnt TRYING to cause a problem, when he ADMITS it within the first 5 seconds.
Push for them to require more education for cops, not this attention whoring shit
@tronclay hey buddy, we do it the same way here in Pa, and because of our actions, the same this fella does, they added Open Carry to every cop in the states yearly refresher training.
Standing up for your rights is attention whoring? Ill remember to say that the next time a class teaches about Rosa Parks. What an attention whore she was! -_-
@YllwFvrPB Right... you and your "buds" are just attention seeking little assholes.
Dont dare compare yourself to Rosa Parks you ungrateful little fuck. She was old woman who stood up for her rights as a HUMAN BEING and refused to let some prissy young white bitch sit in her seat.
You go out looking like an american terrorist in hopes that you will get stopped and hassled, so you can hassle them back.
Comparing yourself to rosa parks makes you look like a complete fucking moron.
@tronclay actually ive never been hassled in two years doing it so I dont expect to be hassled. This guy is like a cop magnet or something. And the times when people even notice Im carrying are few and far between. On the rare occasions someone notices id say 80% dont say anything, just go about there business. The rest might ask a question or two.
I have a right as a human being to be armed either way
@YllwFvrPB "This guy is a cop magnet or something...."
Gee, he must be! ID imagine the rifle on his back, pistol on his hip, tactical vest on his chest and the big dark sunglasses didnt have anything to do with it. I mean, what kind of idiot would think its strange to walk up and down a busy highway with a bunch of weapons? I mean come on its common sense right? Its our right to do it so obviously we need to go out and do it right away, as much as possible, or we lose the right.... right?..
@YllwFvrPB Just liek the Fred Phelps religious nut group right? They NEED to go out and call soldiers faggots, mock dead people and generally be loudmouthed, disrespectful little pricks..... because if they DONT wave a sign that says "DEAD SOLDIERS ARE FAGGOTS, LET THEM ROT", then someday they may not be ABLE to cause that much heartache and distress, right?
@YllwFvrPB By the way, it would be GREAT if you provided ANY sort of prove about your little "actions" being responsible for them adding anything to the training of cops. Or did you forget that running around claiming random things on the internet without proof makes you look like a jack ass?
@YllwFvrPB If you are correct in your claims, why would you not want it to be posted here for everyone to see? Seems a little shady to me that you would want to keep things private. Once again, linking me to some forum where people post videos and stories of how they "totally owned" some ignorant cop who hassled them means, and proves, nothing.
Good for you dude! Way to stand up against the law when you did nothing wrong! I am from California (I hate my state btw) and I participate in open carry. I have not been stopped yet, but I am sure I will be at some point. Continue to carry and be safe! God Bless!
I hate how he thought you needed a permit. I remember reading a story in American Hunter magazine about traveling with guns and the author said airport security guards would always ask him for his "gun license" and he would have to try to explain that there is no such thing as a gun license.
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You are an ASS!!!! Why call attention to yourself? You have the right to carry...FINE, don't be an ass to the officers that contact you. Cooperate and go on your way. Your family better not cry when you get shot by someone who mistakes you for an officer.
You're the ass. He wasn't breaking any laws and exercising a basic right guaranteed by the Constitution in New Hampshire. Just because you're from a state where the cops fear an armed citizenry doesn't mean everyone is. If you've ever spoken to an attorney about police contacts the first thing they'll tell you is not to answer any questions.The cop is also an ass for harassing this guy, who's done nothing illegal.
@traviesoC3 screw you,he is a law abiding citizen minding his own business,the cop was "ASKING" him,he has no right to demand anything.good for you ,I am totally pro-law enforcement,they just need to know the law,and the constitution they're sworn to defend and uphold.
No offense, but if you are going to be carrying a firearm in the open you need to have ID on you. I have carried open in North Carolina and never had a problem but was always prepared to be questioned because it does open up the possibility of being stopped.
Now that I live in Florida I carry concealed and prefer it that way. The first thing a bad guy is going to do to someone in open carry is shoot them or take their gun. If they don't know I have it, they will when it goes bang.
Legally I have no need to carry an ID. Do bad guys walk up to police because they are are openly carrying a gun? Nope. They will avoid that area.
I'm asked at least once when I'm out by someone if I am a police officer, which about half the time turns into a discussion about firearms, open carrying, concealed carrying, and today's violent culture.
What are you hoping to attain? Recognition of open carry? Good. nicely done. However, all you're doing is inciting incident for point proving. this isn't the 50's anymore. People used to be able to walk around with guns before things like the DC sniper, Son Of Sam, VT, Colombine, the tower and the Ohio guard put people in a position where maybe they have a justifiable reasoning in thinking it worrysome for a man to walk down the street with a gun. More power to you I guess Mr. Pistolero.
I am hoping to be able to walk around New Hampshire without asking for permission to carry a gun (meaning I can't conceal carry since I don't want to ask for permission).
So open carry is legal in your state? I ask this because I am in MA and only police officers can open carry Conceled is fine (with proper license) I think open carry is a better idea. Thank you for posting this all the more reason to leave Taxachussetts Well done for you and others protecting our and your second amendment freedom. Keep safe.
IF GUNS WERE OUTLAWED ONLY OUTLAWS WOULD HAVE GUNS.
Yes, it is legal, and guaranteed by the constitution. The AG a few years back even stated: "Another person's annoyance or alarm (at the site of a gun) does not override a persons Right to carry/posses a gun."
I dont have this problem when I open carry in michigan. Try contacting police cheifs, sherriffs, and legislatures with the pertinent information related to open carry.
"do you have any idea how many complaints we've gotten?" aaaaand did they try telling any of the callers that open carry is legal, and to have a nice day and not waste their time anymore? They should have.
Probably one call... and again yes, they should say "open carry is legal....is the person threatening anyone or handling the firearm in public? No. Okay, we'll drive by and take a look but we can't do anything."
Yeah, dude. I live in Wv. I am about to go to court over a gun they found in my car. Was pretty much open carry and not only that. but the clip wasn't even in the car. Aside that, the firing pin was even broken. Really a bunch of bull, because they're saying I'll have to serve 30 days in jail and a 500 fine . When our state is open carry, and recently passed Castle Law.
In our community, there are police who actually "patrol" a recycle bin! Only residents of the small city are allowed to use the bins. Instead of fighting real crimes, they're sitting in the parking lot "guarding" the damned bins. These guys are such dicks!
This man did not commit a crime. We need to stop funding our police to focus on stupid shit. We need more police officers that have the balls to go to hotspots and deal with REAL crime organizations(gangs, racing, vandals, rapist, ect). and Not arresting individuals that would love nothing other than to be left alone, just to fill their quota.
Common sense should always apply in these situations (why OC when you can CC) and why not co-operate with the officer rather than cause him to become riled and suspicious.
However kudos to you for raising awareness of your rights to OC.
If I may suggest a more powerful way yo make a protest would be to organise an event where a series of OC'ers get together at the same time and do something beneficial for the community like litterpicking?
It's been done before (search youtube for the videos) in Nevada to what seems like great effect.
@dkfa And you're a fucking douche bag. I know my rights much better than the average citizen. And I exercise them regularly.
Mattm1986 1 month ago
Another friggin' activist type. He misses the opportunity to educate those who enforce the law. He starts out by failing to carry his ID so he is already suspect. He refuses to give his name and the SCotUS has already affirmed that a person must identify themselves when asked. He was in violation of that if not for the open carry.
Jerks like this give all of us a bad smell and the cops will lump us all into the same mold. He does all of us a disservice and empowers the anti-firearms activists.
jimpeel 8 months ago
@jimpeel His chief didn't agree when he saw the video and the officer received a reprimand. Of course he wanted a formal complaint so the reprimand would have more "force" but he never received the copy as well as two lawyers wanted to take the town/officer to court for this incident and were both going to do it pro-bono.
OpenCarryNH 8 months ago
@jimpeel He's is fully in the right to do wut he is doing, dipshit.... we need to show police they cant just push us around & that we DO in fact have rights!!!! Do EXACTLY as he did in the same situation!
RHallman321 7 months ago
@jimpeel I have to say I think your view of this is a little warped, why should someone have to show ID randomly whenever a cop wants it? You realize upon seeing your ID they know they have jurisdiction over you. Those activist types are the only reason the rest of the world doesn't think america is completely friggin retarted. The activists are the only people left in america with a brain.
DecendKnightsofmalta 6 months ago
@jimpeel Would you cite teh SCotUS ruling on that? Because I'm sure you're wrong. Now, if you live in a State that has a "Stop and ID" law, that is true. However, most don't. My State does not, and I do NOT have to present my ID to a LEO unless he can tell me what crime he can "Reasonably Articulate" that I am commissioning or am about to commission. Even then I only have to give my name and information, I'm not required to show any ID.
RooksGambit 5 months ago
I have been in Law Enforcement for 17 years and I will say this. This officer was way out of line! I would file a complaint against him. You don't talk to people like that. Guys like this are why people hate the police these days.
SteveWaddell1 9 months ago
The cop responded to the complaint, chewed you out for not carrying your I.D. then let you go... Im still struggling with what was "wrong" with this officers actions...
MegaDuke1 1 year ago
@MegaDuke1 So if I call the police because I don't like the color of their clothes or think it clashes the police should investigate? There is nothing unlawful carrying a firearm and the attorney general in my state has stated that a persons annoyance/alarm at the sight of a firearm doesn't override my Right to carry a firearm. Therefor I was stopped for the equivalent of wearing what I wanted or expressing my freedom speech or religion.
OpenCarryNH 1 year ago
@OpenCarryNH Well... yeah, the police are not the law, they are law enforcement, they need to respond to complaints to see if the law is being broken, they did, saw that you (although being a dick) were NOT in fact breaking the law, then left.... again, what did these officers do wrong aside from the potty mouth?
MegaDuke1 1 year ago
@MegaDuke1 I (and any non-felon, etc in New Hampshire) have a right to carry a firearm, openly or concealed (if so licensed). Another person has a right to be scared at that. HOWEVER their right to be scared does NOT override my right to carry a firearm. As the officer had no cause to believe I was committed a crime the officer was the one in the wrong, not me. Nothing in the above; not in New Hampshire "law" require to me carry an ID nor identify myself.
OpenCarryNH 1 year ago
@OpenCarryNH An officer cant tell if you're a felon by looking at you, I think your little speech at the beginnning tells us clearly your intentions here "Gonna go for a 2 for 1 here". Youre attempt to be controversial is a sophomoric cry for attention that is a tremendous, and potentially dangerous waste of everyones time... I see you getting as ridiculous as the "ridley report" has become in the near future.
Please switch to a topic of activism that actually matters... Thank you.
MegaDuke1 1 year ago
The police have the right to make sure your gun is legal. You can't just walk around with a gun visible and not even a drivers licence on you, you moron. You're doing nothing to protect yours or anyone elses rights. You're just starting crap with police and posting it on youtube so you can say "look how persecuted I am, poor me". You're not being persecuted. The cops are just doing their jobs. Would you rather they didn't respond at all to people walking around with guns?? You're retarded.
Mattm1986 1 year ago
@Mattm1986 Actually no they don't have the right to make sure anything is illegal unless they have reason to believe it isn't and they can't lawfully assume everything is illegal. And I have no need to carry any ID on my when I go anywhere (at least in New Hampshire). If they did I'd have been arrested; not just let go after harassment. Considering there is nothing illegal will walking around with a gun; yes I would rather them not responding to everyone carrying a gun.
OpenCarryNH 1 year ago
@Mattm1986 Walking around and carrying a gun is a RIGHT. Even the attorney general in New Hampshire has stated: "another persons annoyance or alarm at the sight of a gun does not override a persons right to carry a gun."
OpenCarryNH 1 year ago
@OpenCarryNH
I know its a right. But you look like an asshole when you go around intentionally trying to get stopped. And when you do you act like you're being persecuted. Isn't that what you wanted? You're not doing anything worthwhile. Get a fucking hobby or a job or something.
Mattm1986 1 year ago
@Mattm1986 - We ARE being persecuted every day. The police are CIVILIANS, they are not FEDERAL, and even if they were, they have no POWER OVER a sovereign citizen of NH. Added, which was said numerous times already -it's not against the law to open carry, and you DO NOT have to show papers and ID upon request if no crime has been committed. It's simple: the police have to work FOR us, and not respond to calls made about citizens exercising their RIGHT to open carry. End of story. ;)
brokor1 10 months ago
@Mattm1986 .. you said,"I know its a right. But you look like an asshole when you go around intentionally trying to get stopped."
Umm .. if its a right then why is he being stopped? Probably because the asshole doesn't know or care what his Rights Are, or what the law says,.. he just wants to punish someone for doing something only an asshole would think is bad based on his opininon, being an asshole, & an uneducated asshole @ that, seeing as his JOB is to uphold a citizens rights... Asshole..
Wrongway1965 9 months ago
@Mattm1986 You need to learn the law. It's frustrating to see such stupidity from a dunce like yourself, which probably goes a long way in explaining why our country is about to hit the shits.
Bluto2973 1 year ago
@Bluto2973
LOL! OH THE IRONY!!
Mattm1986 1 year ago
@Mattm1986 You're retarded. Know your rights. This officer certainly know his rights and the law. Even if the cop is doing his job, he doesn't need to be like this.
dkfa 1 month ago
I don't know what's more kick ass, the fact that you're open carrying or the fact that you left your I.D. in your kilt....either way, keep up the good work!
victimofgovernment 1 year ago
@victimofgovernment Wait til I get detained while OCing wearing the kilt!
OpenCarryNH 1 year ago
@victimofgovernment What ever happed to the 72 hour hold to make sure of Identity.??
I have used that before when people left there ID at home, take them in , fingerprint them and wait for it to come back telling you who they are.
thegrunt69 9 months ago
@thegrunt69 Why would you need to detain someone who is not breaking a single damn rule? The fact here is half of you cops don't know the rules and then try and pull something out of your ass like this "72 hour rule". You can use that rule when you have caught someone breaking the law.
MrAstuflick 7 months ago
@301gunnar pls shut the hellup, u idiot,
fucking disgusting PIG ( COP )!
kunzy3000 1 year ago
@kunzy3000 you knew you wouldn't accomplish anything right? first off, some of us have been, or are, police. so the people you think are going to be your allys may not be. second, did you honestly thing calling the police "pig" was so original that you had to explain what you meant?
2ADB 1 year ago
@301gunnar "you can't do this nonsense in the post 9/11 world you twit" did you not post that? you were out working all night to make a fraction of what i make in 8 hours on the computer. and the "real man" comment was funny, i'll give you that. are you american? america is run by democrats today for better or worse, therefor, they're your dems too. do you think the country just pauses when things aren't going your way?
2ADB 1 year ago
@301gunnar first off, you brought up 9/11. second, guess what, no matter how much you wish they weren't, their YOUR democrats too. just because you lost, doesn't mean you get to say you're not american. i see you as some fat guys with a pimply ass sitting at a computer sweating just to hit each key while switching between youtube and bestiality porn. should i have called you that even though it has nothing to do with the conversation at hand? and junior to jaded in a paragraph? thats just funny.
2ADB 1 year ago
@301gunnar so it's not okay for me to "hide behind" my bill of rights? but it is okay for police to hide behind their badges without knowing the extent of their power? you're the one saying people can't do this because of 9/11 and IM the one associating this argument with terrorism? thats not spinning. i took the conversation through a gate YOU opened. and do you honestly think calling me a "leftist spin doctor" is insulting? try conversing instead of just spouting unoriginal political insults.
2ADB 1 year ago
@301gunnar so you expect to post something telling someone NOT to enjoy being american, then give me a "left hook" when i question you? and by the way, you never addressed my question. you heard something you didn't like, and responded with a horribly unoriginal insult... are you expecting me to respond, "I am rubber, you are glue..."? have we regressed that far? so, without insults this time: are you saying we shouldn't exercise our rights, because someone attacked us for having those rights?
2ADB 1 year ago
@301gunnar Silence is not a crime. so if a cop were to approach a mute, the mute would be in non-compliance? i agree that when open carrying you need to be ready to deal with police, but there is absolutely NO law requiring you to speak when approached by police. if open carry is legal, local PD should know this. i understand approaching someone who is carrying, but acting the way this officer did is unreasonable. of course, being aggressive the way the civilian did doesn't help either..
2ADB 1 year ago
@301gunnar yes, they can inquire(ask), and they CAN detain you. but through the whole ordeal, you dont have to say shit. its the 5th amendment. look it up before you post incomplete information as a response.
2ADB 1 year ago
@301gunnar um... so since terrorists want to take away our rights, we should allow them to win?
2ADB 1 year ago
@301gunnar next time po-po wants to violate your rights feel free to roll over and stick your butt in the air some people have real belief in the constitution. you dont have to prove anything to anybody including cops. you would assume a cop knows this.
dixiejon 1 year ago
@301gunnar I live in reality. See up in NY, you treat yourselves as special because you live in a major city. You aren't special. You actually restrict rights because of your fear of guns.
And I *DO* open carry where I live, and I would never ID myself because I am not required to do so, nor is it the concern of the officer. If I commit no crimes, I have no need to ID myself.
I don't partner with LE. My duty as a citizen is to question authority - not go along with it and be a sheep.
Rayven10 1 year ago
@301gunnar So the cop should have threatened lethal force on a citizen showing no aggression and who is breaking no laws? Right. I live in the United States. Where do you live?
Rayven10 1 year ago
@Rayven10 You live in a country where a 40 year old mother can pretend to be a 13 year old boy and talk a 13 year old girl over the computer and convince her to hang herself, then got off the hook because it was her "right to free speech". So are you going to go out convincing little kids to hang themselves because its your right? I thought either you had the right or you dont, so you need to defend it no matter what?
tronclay 1 year ago
@tronclay Bad example. She violated the 13-year-old's rights.
Rayven10 1 year ago
@Rayven10 Oh ok, seeing how YOU said she was violating his rights, ill just go ahead and believe it right? Care to add on to that and maybe say HOW her rights were violated? All this talk about not obeying authority and not bowing down... yet you expect me to just accept your answer of " Oh, well that doesnt count"? Thats a little ignorant, dont you think?
tronclay 1 year ago
I'd rather fight to my death to protect my rights, liberties and freedom then give into some COP who merely doesn't like the fact that someone is openly carrying a gun.
andrewjs18 1 year ago
Don't you need a permit if you're in a vehicle?
Gopheur 1 year ago
@Gopheur New Hampshire doesn't have a permit system for firearms (except hunting). You do however need a license to carry a loaded firearm in a vehicle. Hopefully that will change in 2011.
OpenCarryNH 1 year ago
@301gunnar No, whether you agree or not, "this guy" is doing nothing more than exercising his rights. If anything, he should have not given ANY information and just remained silent.
The more rights we give away, the less we will ever have. While it is obvious he went out looking for police to give him a hard time, they should have never given him that opportunity if they were following the law.
Rayven10 1 year ago
@Rayven10 see, i just dont agree with that. A cop hassles you for no reason and you refuse to give your information, thats standing up for your rights. A cop tries to make you let him search you, and you refuse, standing up for your rights.
You strap a pistol and rifle to yourself and walk up and down a highway until you get stopped. That is not "exercising your rights". Its flaunting them and testing the waters, so you can put a video of yourself on youtube and get attention. end of story.
tronclay 1 year ago
@tronclay If you are within your rights to "strap a pistol and rifle to yourself and walk up and down a highway", then you are indeed exercising your rights. I myself have tested the waters regarding open carry and I have been stopped by the police.
Because I knew I was legal, I said virtually nothing as per my rights.
What I don't understand is why you would state that refusing a search is standing up for your rights, but legally carrying a firearm isn't. That doesn't make sense.
Rayven10 1 year ago
@Rayven10 What i dont understand is how any sane person who isnt bullshitting themselves or others could say that arming yourself and going out LOOKING TO BE STOPPED BY WALKING UP AND DOWN A HIGHWAY is the same as legally carrying a firearm for protection through the normal course of your day.
Man arms himself to lure an ignorant cop into providing a good show for his youtube fans.
Man arms himself to defend himself and his family.
How can you not comprehend the difference here?
tronclay 1 year ago
@tronclay Because at worst, he should have been bored by walking around. What he did was legal, so the cops should have left him alone, and his video would be pointless. Instead, he videoed a cop violating his rights.
Just because you disagree with his actions doesn't make it illegal. I open carry a firearm, and I have had police interactions because of it, even though it is legal. He chooses to make a point of how police harass those acting legally, and that is his right.
Rayven10 1 year ago
@Rayven10 Once again, you fail to admit the obvious fact that he is doing what he is doing simply to bring attention to himself, so he can get an uneducated, ignorant cop to make an ass out of himself so he can have a juicy video to put on youtube.
You just will not bring yourself to say it, why? Because the second you admit hes out doing this shit on purpose even you cant justify it to yourself in your own mind, and thats sad.
tronclay 1 year ago
@Rayven10 Also im curious... Do you know the Westboro Baptist Church? They go to soldiers funerals with signs like
"God hates dead soldier fags"
"Fuck Fags" oh and my all time favorite...
"God hates fucking gay soldiers gay fags" ..... Witty huh?
Its their right to freedom of speech, so you must think what they do is ok right? You agree with them and their right to try and destroy the emotions of grieving families of soliders who died to defend all the rights you love so much?
tronclay 1 year ago
@Rayven10 My point is that its common sense to any sane intelligent human being that the Law is not a way to tell you whats right and wrong, just whats legal and illegal. Having the right to freedom of speech does not make every act regarding that freedom "right", it just makes it legal. Having the right to bear arms does not make every act of bearing arms "Right".
This is an example. A man out to waste peoples time so that he can have an interesting youtube video.
tronclay 1 year ago
@tronclay And my point is that either we have rights or we don't. We are obligated to protect the rights of everyone - especially those you disagree with. Otherwise, we are nothing but schoolyard bullies, telling people how exactly they should live their own lives and conduct their personal business.
Whether you consider this right or wrong, he broke no laws. He should have been treated as such - civilized society demands as much.
Rayven10 1 year ago
@Rayven10 I just cant understand how any intelligent person considers this man some "freedom fighter", he is EXACTLY why cops and the government DONT WANT US AROUND. People like this asshole dont help everyone, they set us back. Your "follow all laws obediently no matter what, because its the law" attitude makes zero sense whatsoever..... back when it was illegal for black people to vote.... would you be the idiot saying "Oh well ya know... its the law guys, sorry."???
tronclay 1 year ago
@tronclay Wow, you have no idea about anything I believe in or stand for. I absolutely do not like the "follow all laws obediently" mentality. I violate laws all the time if they don't make sense. If anything, I'm a strong advocate for freedom and liberty.
That's why I back this guy. Is he looking for confrontation? Yes. But he isn't breaking any laws or violating the rights of others so he shouldn't be able to even *find* confrontation.
Rayven10 1 year ago
@Rayven10 So you are saying that it doesnt matter if something is right or wrong, just if its legal? Like the westboro baptist church who legally stands outside of dead soldiers funerals holding signs that say
"God killed your faggot soldier"
"soldiers are fags"
and my favorite
"faggoty fag soldier fag"
You would hold up signs like that just because its legal? You agree with their cause just because they do it legally?
Brainwashed by youtube liberals much?
tronclay 1 year ago
@tronclay No, I don't agree with that particular bunch of idiots. But being a true American, I support their right to express themselves.
They have the right to be backwards, inbred, and mindless. They have that right.
I wouldn't hold up those signs because I don't agree. I have that right.
But we should defend those we disagree with.
So yes it doesn't matter if it is right or wrong *IN YOUR EYES* - only what is legal. The state can change the law if the people disagree.
Rayven10 1 year ago
@Rayven10 ummm.... the states can overturn the ammendments now? Sorry but thats not something ive heard of, maybe you could send me a link to where you read that a state could overturn the first ammendment right to free speech if they see fit?
My question is why do you roll over and obey anything thats "legal"? I just dont understand the mindset of "Well its legal, it must be ok"
Years ago women, and even blacks as a whole, could not vote. So you are saying back then you would have agreed?
tronclay 1 year ago
@tronclay No, they cannot. The Supreme Court ruled that states can limit rights for various reasons. No yelling fire in a theater, permits to carry a firearm, etc.
I don't roll over and obey what is legal. We all break the law almost every day in some way. I have no problem standing up for what I think is right, and I've even gotten a few local laws changed because of it.
What I'm saying is that if you have the right to do something, you should not be impeded by the police. Period.
Rayven10 1 year ago
@Rayven10 Well thats the thing, we were talking about WBBC and them "preaching" about dead soldiers. You say that if we, the people, dont like it we can vote to change the laws. If you were saying we could change their ability to preach, you are wrong and thats what i was referring to.
You say you have no problem standing up for what you think is right, yet you said you agree with their right to divebomb funeral services. Our soldiers arent worth standing up for? But gun carry in a park is?
tronclay 1 year ago
@Rayven10 it seems like you are so interested in this little anti-cop mindset/lifestyle (trust me, you arent the first and you wont be the last, i can search up any gun forum and find hundreds of people just like you) that you only care about one thing: not being hassled by the cops. You dont really care so much about whats "right or wrong", just what power you hold over someone who you previously thought to have all the power over you.
Its about power, you enjoy it as much as they do.
tronclay 1 year ago
@tronclay Well, you are correct on at least one thing: it's about power. The people have it, the government gets it from us. I am exerting the power I have to enforce my rights, and I enjoy the power I have to push for my rights.
I'm not anti-cop at all, by the way. I'm anti-cop-who-overexerts-his-power. Cops who are honorable and don't abuse their power and/or harass citizens for no reason are cops I respect and have no problems with.
Rayven10 1 year ago
@Rayven10 Im guessing whatever the most common forum/youtube opinion is the one you have. You say you dont respect cops that abuse their power... what about citizens who abuse their power? OH no they are just fine huh?
You really have no argument here. "I have the power to do it, so thats why I do it." is a sentiment probably shared with all the great evils of our time... Hitler, Stalin.... even serial killers, or bad cops. All do what they do just because they can, and you differ in what way?
tronclay 1 year ago
@tronclay I'm sorry that I have no qualms with people who enforce the rights they are endowed with instead of rolling over because it's the "nice thing to do".
My rights are inalienable, and so I use the rights whenever I see fit. That's how this country is supposed to work.
And seriously - Hitler and Stalin? They were government thugs who abused government power. If you can't see the difference, I am very sorry for you.
I'm done with you - you obviously are OK in cowering in fear.
Rayven10 1 year ago
@Rayven10 Only an idiot equates not wanting to walk up and down a highway with a rifle and pistol on my side to "rolling over".
You are just a grown up child who found a new way to "play", except you would rather play with something that can kill people.
Im sorry but there is no other answer for you, if you think walking up and down the street with a rifle and pistol as an event in and of itself is what our forefathers had in mind by giving us our rights then you are a fucking fool.
tronclay 1 year ago
@tronclay Either you are for standing up for your rights and the rights of others, or you are not. Disagree with his method, but his rationale still stands.
Enjoy being an imbecile. Reply if you'd like, I'm not even going to read it.
Rayven10 1 year ago
@Rayven10 An imbecile? You are just another bullshit "rights activist" who doesnt do jackshit but sit on his computer admiring idiots who wear firearms just to bring attention to themselves. Do you fight in the military? Ill assume not and go ahead and say that because you dont fight for the country, you fight against it. Do you help local charities and your community? Ill assume not and say that you are now officially against charities and communities.
See how that forum bullshit reeks bud?
tronclay 1 year ago
@tronclay Yes, I'm a rights activist, and I don't sit on the computer. I actually go out and do things to push for my rights.
And for enforcing my rights, I "fight against my country"? You really are an idiot.
By the way, I DO help local charities and I DO help my local community. Don't assume - it makes you look stupid.
Rayven10 1 year ago
@Rayven10 You are the fuckin moron saying stupid forum-popular bullshit like
"If you arent fighting FOR your rights, you are fighting AGAINST THEM!!!!"
Please pal. Pull your head out of your pompous ass long enough to look yourself in the mirror and see what kind of fucking fool you are.
Trying to claim you are some gift to your city for walking around (probably) acting like a dink with a gun, then you stick up for stupid pricks like this guy and it lets people know how idiotic you are.
tronclay 1 year ago
@tronclay Perhaps not but carrying weapons in public was not uncommon in the late 1700s.
MagicJigPipe 1 year ago
@Rayven10 Also i wouldnt be trying the "civilized society" angle seeing how there is nothing civilized about arming yourself up so you can shoot a fucking youtube video.
"Civilized" would have been this man midning his own business, doing his daily business, getting pulled over for it, and being calm, cool and collected while putting the ignorant cop in his place.
But thats not how it went, is it? He went out LOOKING FOR THE TROUBLE in NO uncertain terms. He SEEKS OUT CONFrONTATION.
tronclay 1 year ago
Doobie you're my hero! And to the critics, it's not for attention. It's to make a point- has it occurred to anyone that he started filming because he was being detained unlawfully, and not the other way around?
amykomatic 1 year ago
@amykomatic Try to explain that to the board fool tronclay who thinks its all just a selfish publicity stunt and not for a greater cause.
yoyo762 1 year ago
@amykomatic He didnt start filming while being detained,did you even watch the video? He starts it by mentioning how hes going to TRY and get stopped for the second time in one day, he then cuts over to when he starts filming as he sees the cop.
Being stopped/detained during the course of your normal, everyday activites and standing up for your rights is making a point... Going out just to draw attention to yourself soyou can embarrass some idiot cop is just ignorant.
tronclay 1 year ago
@tronclay Um, yeah I watched the video. This isn't his first video- I meant that he started filming, in general, on various occasions in various places because he had been stopped for doing nothing wrong. Being stopped at some point in the past is what triggered his idea to film more of his walks- that's what I meant. He was being stopped/detained during the course of your normal, everyday activities which is why he one day started filming his everyday activities. Was I more clear that time?
amykomatic 1 year ago
@amykomatic Well,as clear as you may or may have not been, i think you are still wrong. Walking up and down a highway with a rifle and a pistol isnt an everyday activity. Unless he does in fact make it a habit of looking for trouble EVERYDAY, but i still dont think that makes him seem any better.
tronclay 1 year ago
@301gunnar Sorry, but the chief of police wanted me to file a formal complaint against the officer so he could discipline the officer.
OpenCarryNH 1 year ago 5
@301gunnar What nonsense??
Exercising his constitutional rights is nonsense to you?
As B. Franklin said, " Those that would give up their freedoms for a little security deserve neither. "
Maybe you think we should live under martial law because of one terrorist act but I don't. You don't like guns, don't have or carry one. Just don't try to impose your paranoia onto others.
The cop didn't "draw down" on him because the cop had no legal grounds to do so.
yoyo762 1 year ago
@yoyo762 Its our right to to bear arms and when situations arise and people are wrongfully held/arrested, its great when someone gets it on tape. This is not one of these situations. The man dresses and equips himself in a way to specifically draw attention to himself, for the distinct and specific goal of prompting phone calls and, hopefully, a run in with the police so he can record his superior knowlege of the law to some idiot cop.
Its.
For.
Attention.
tronclay 1 year ago
@tronclay Yeah, that Rosa Parks went and did something in a way to specifically draw attention to herself, for the distinct and specific goal of prompting phone calls and, hopefully, a run in with police.
Its
For
Attention
yoyo762 1 year ago
BBQ the F'N PIGS
LTL220 1 year ago
the cop was clearly responding from a bruised ego rather than an objective to uphold the law. see how the cop was trying to pick a fight with the man - this is their tactic more people should stand up to belligerent cops like this. we the people have this right and since the police have stopped protecting and serving and started preying upon the public for income we need to exercise our right to carry arms.
markbuiltme 1 year ago
I agree the guy is a joke. There is no clear shot of the "police" whatsoever although i do suspect they were real, i didnt SEE them. The little copmobile out in the distance could also have been recorded like that in any situation. We dont have to take this guy's word for it. Furthermore he actually ADMITS he doesnt have his drivers license, and he WOULD have driven if he werent concerned about being pulled over.
TextCannon 1 year ago
@TextCannon Usually my drivers license is left in the car. At the time I was interacting with the officer I thought it was and it wasn't until later that I realized it was in my house since I had taken it out two days earlier when I was at a bar.
OpenCarryNH 1 year ago
@TextCannon How can you doubt he's been stopped when the police are in so many other videos? Anyway lots of OCers dont carry a drivers license on them, its called sterile carry. They cant ask for what you dont have.
YllwFvrPB 1 year ago
i agree with a lot of these open and concealed carry videos, but this guy is a joke. You can tell within the first 3 minutes that this is all a game to him. He goes out with the strict intent of bringing attention to himself and getting stopped by the police.
tronclay 1 year ago
@tronclay How about negroes that go out on the street looking like gangbangers?
Is that bringing the cops attention?
Doing something legal is grounds for police intervention?
The only thing needed here is education for the cops. And he gave them a lesson.
yoyo762 1 year ago
@yoyo762 negroes? They are called black people, dont be such an old fuck, times change.
And as far as your question goes, were the people who looked like gangbangers dressing that way JUST to get attention from the cops? Did they start up their youtube video by saying "hmm lets go for a two-for-one today guys", meaning hes TRYING to get stopped for a second time that day.
>>>TRYING<<< to get stopped.
The police are idiots and need re-educating, but guys like this are simply idiotic.
tronclay 1 year ago
@yoyo762 so not only is your comment racist, but its pretty ignorant as well. You cant compare two people doing two completely different things for two completely different reasons, it just doesnt work. One person dresses a certain way for fashion reasons, and one person dresses a certain ay, and goes walking up and down the street TRYING to get the cops to stop him.
Why? Because the guy is a loser with nothing to do who wants attention, using the "Its my right" cop-out to justify himself.
tronclay 1 year ago
@tronclay The term negroe is derived from the anthropological classification of negroid. Get over it. The ignorance is yours. And I see you can't wait to play the race card as well. It only took a few lines before that appeared.
So peacefully and quietly exercising his rights is " getting cops attention" ?
So you think dressing as a gangbanger is a "fashion statement" ? I might call it an attempt at intimidation and trying to get cops attention.
Rights are a Cop Out ? Get real.
yoyo762 1 year ago
@yoyo762 *Calling Negroe to a black person can be considered a racist insult. this word is referred by these words like moor or berber from north africa.*
Well, Cletus, the urban dictionary seems to think you are as much of a racist prick as i do. Regardless of how terms originate, this is 2010 and times change, so dont the meanings and acceptance of certain words or terms. Get over it.
And how do you have the balls to talk to me about playing the race card after saying some ignorant yourself?
tronclay 1 year ago
@tronclay You can consider it whatever you want but you don't dictate the language.
Feel free to be perpetually offended. Too bad. I don't care.
Interesting how negroes immediately go to the racial aspect opf every debate. How sad it must be to live in such paranoia.
yoyo762 1 year ago
@yoyo762 are you actively denying this man was doing what he did for attention? The first 3 seconds of the video you can hear him say "Well i think ill go for a two-for-one today"...... i just dont see how after hearing that you can argue in any way, shape or form that this man is doing this for attention. The constitution and the laws are irrelevant to the REASONING behind this man doing what hes doing. You are just another blind, ignorant racist fuckup.
tronclay 1 year ago
@yoyo762 you sit here claimingto not be racist yet lookat your comments. "Negroes always" How the fuck is that not racist? Do you really believe its not racist or is this just part of your whole white supremecist game? If you claim all people of one race do anything based on their race then that is RACISM. Do you really need a fucking definition here? You are like alittle kid putting his finger on someone else and going "But im not touching him im not touching him!!!"
Racism is racism.
tronclay 1 year ago
@tronclay The term negroe is the proper anthropological term to describe the race.
If you don't like it, too bad. Who made you the terminology police?
Do we need your approval to use some scientific term??
You are way too hypersensitive to be white. Where did I say " negroes always " ?? So hypersensitive you now imagine slights. Sad way to live.
yoyo762 1 year ago
@yoyo762 You said "negroes immediately go to the racial aspect opf every debate"
So my quote should have read "Negroes immediately...".
The point is you believe that every single african american on the planet thinks and acts a certain way because they have "different DNA".
Seriously... im not sure whats up with this slew of "upper class educated" type acting like COMPLETE racist pricks but trying to be "proper" about it because they dont want to be "politically incorrect"....
Sad? Yes.
tronclay 1 year ago
@tronclay You have no idea what I believe. So you can quit with the mind reading games. You're no good at it.
You don't like the proper term for a race?? Thats YOUR problem, not mine.
yoyo762 1 year ago
@yoyo762 lol you spout your racist hillbilly bullshit about all black people acting and thinking the same, and then you whine about me doing it to you? Are you kidding me bud? You can read the minds of blacks because you are some master race, but i cant do the same to you? Now you are getting whiny, time to man up.
tronclay 1 year ago
@yoyo762 You go around calling people negroes, then when someone gets offended THEY are playing the race card....??? Yeah i just dont understand the "logic" behind that.
Im curious, are you here to just act like some snide little asshole, or do you honestly believe the things you say?
"You "might" believe that "gangbangers" dress a certain way to intimidate? But a guy walking up and down a busy highway carrying a rifle and pistol ISNT trying to intimidate?
Again, where the fucks your logic?
tronclay 1 year ago
@tronclay The intimidation part is your interpretation of his actions.
You seem incapable of grasping the constitutional and legal rights involved with his actions. You don't like it, tough. People don't like it, tough.
Apparently your here to represent the side, asshole, negroe gangbanger element.
I'll bet a negroe like you gets hysterical about police abuse of rights when you're stopped in a clean, white neighborhood. Then suddenly rights mean something, eh.
yoyo762 1 year ago
@yoyo762 Ahhhh the ignorance of some people :).
Im black now? So in your world, its only black people who dislike racism? Where do you live, Alabama? Im as white as a sheet of paper, i just have common sense and decency, something you obviously lack.
Do you know why we have rights? So we can be free, and ave options when we NEED them. They didnt fight and DIE for our rights so some guy on his day off could walk up and down the highway looking for attention.
Do you deny he wanted attention?
tronclay 1 year ago
@tronclay Are you a mind reader now??
How do you know he wanted attention from the police?
He simply stated his experience with cops hassling him when he exercised his rights.
My rights are in effect at ALL times, not just when I need them. Or rather than when some holier than thou like yourself determines their use to be appropriate.
yoyo762 1 year ago
@yoyo762 Its funny how you have notonce acknowledged himsaying "lets go for a two-for-one today" when referring to getting stopped by the police. Why do you not mention it? Because you have no way to refute it. Now that we have that settled.... You think i am acting "holier than thou" by pointing out that this guy is indeed TRYING TO GET POLICE ATTENTION. I just dont understand why that doesnt get through to you.
Excercizing your rights > Flaunting your rights to bring attention to yourself.
tronclay 1 year ago
@tronclay The only thing settled is we agree to disagree.
Flaunting rights?? I can only exercise them.
So if someone exercises their rights and you don't approve, thats a form of flaunting.
My, my. What a superior attitude you have. And I'm the White power guy supposedly with an attitude. WOW.
yoyo762 1 year ago
@yoyo762 Until you address this mans desire to gain the attention of the public and local police JUST to have a confrontation to record and place on Youtube, then you have lost. He can legally do what hes doing nobody is questioning that exceptthe public who dont know better andthe uneducated idiot cops who like to cause trouble. But thats not the issue, the issue is going out of his way to purposely cause a commotion. Hes not just walking to his favorite hunting/target spot etc...
tronclay 1 year ago
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yoyo762 1 year ago
@yoyo762 Again, rereading your comments its clear you are just another dime-a-dozen "WHITE POWER WHITE POWER YOURE A NIGGER GIVE ME MY JOBS BACK Oh but im not racist,how absurd." type of wackjob idiot who feels that because he was born white, that its the best and everything else is wrong or inferior.
Like most racists, you have done nothing in your life to give yourself that sense of self worth, so you need to create it out of thin air and claim you were born "the right way".
Try college.
tronclay 1 year ago
@tronclay Yes, I'm white and proud of my heritage and my race.
I guess that makes me racist. So be it. Oh, and college? U of M graduate. Maize and blue forever.
yoyo762 1 year ago
@yoyo762 Proud of your heritage hahaha..... 2010 term for being a scumbag racist.
Being proud of yourself and your heritage is fine UNTIL it moves on to hating OTHERS because of THEIRS.
How does this not compute to you, if you apparently educated? Your girlfriend left you for a black guy? A black guy beat you up once? robbed you? Or are you just a hateful and spiteful idiot?
And are you seriously that lacking in comebacks that you need to try and accuse me of not being white? Wow.
Just wow.
tronclay 1 year ago
@tronclay I don't remember saying anything about hating others.
Geez, you have no ability to stay on topic which was / is open carry legality and whether police should interfere with this right.
You are way to obsessed with race to the point that it permeates all thoughts. Very sad state of being.
yoyo762 1 year ago
@yoyo762 Once again, you decline to comment about the mans intention to draw police to himself, strictly so he can document it and put it on youtube.
Lets me guess, when he said "im gonna go for a two-for-one" he meant a meal deal at Denny's right?
So like i said many times, you lost. So why dont you video record yourself exerting your right to free speech by calling black people their "anthropological names" and post the results?
I could use a laugh.
tronclay 1 year ago
@tronclay The guy shows illegal police intervention to educate and inform the public and to you he just wants attention. Todays technology allows small independant people to show, unfiltered through libtard media, how events go in the real world.
He did not force the cops to do anything. The cops initiated the confrontation.
He does us a public service with an video education . But to you its all a publicity stunt.
Don't watch it if you don't like it. Stay ignorant.
yoyo762 1 year ago
@yoyo762 Haha. Youare so into this shit that you are just blinded to the fact that this guy is an arrogant douchebag out to get peoples attention. Its a game to him. You act as if he is some revolutionary out to educate the world yadayadayada... Bullshit. There are hundreds of jackasses just like him that go out LOOKING FOR ATTENTION. I just dont understand how you are arguing against that. He wasnt hunting or going to the range, he doesnt carry a rifle for self defense normally = Attention
tronclay 1 year ago
@tronclay Speaking of going for attention, that Rosa Parks really just wanted attention from cops when she refused to move to the back of the bus.
Ya know, if she just acquiesce to societal norms, she wouldn't have been bothered by police. She was just one of hundreds of jackasses who go looking for attention.
You have to agree that what she did she did for attention, that old douchebag of a woman. So arrogant, doing things she knows will invite the cops to the scene.
yoyo762 1 year ago
@yoyo762 are you kidding me? You are comparing an elderly blackwoman who would not relinquish her bus seat toa white woman,to a man who suited up his ar-15 and tactical vest to go for a little stroll, for the sole reason of drawing attention to himself and prompt a situation with the police.
Rosa parks was doing her NORMAL everyday shit and living her life and stood up for herself. This guy treats police interaction as some kind of hobby, a game.
Get your head out of your fucking ass.
tronclay 1 year ago
@tronclay Your ignorance and bias is getting old.
Both were exercising constitutional rights.
Rosa parks does it.....you approve
Open carry guy does it......you disapprove because you disapprove of guns.
You don't like open carry, tough shit. The man wants to open carry for WHATEVER reason, its his right.
My head is not in my ass. After watching you stick yours up your ass, I felt justice was served, lol.
yoyo762 1 year ago
@yoyo762 I dislike guns now? Wow this keeps getting better and better. Werent you just crying like a hurt little bitch about me "telling you the way you felt" about shit? Now you claim im against guns? Please bucko, grow up.
I believe in the right to bear arms and would carry everyday if i could, open and concealed.
But you wont find me going out looking to bring attention to myself.
"Looking to bring attention to myself"
As in, for no other reason than to gain said attention.
tronclay 1 year ago
@yoyo762 Im not sure how i am ignorant for seeing the clear and concise difference between an 80 year old black woman not giving up her "white only bus seat" and some guy carrying his firearms up and down the street TO PURPOSELY DRAW ATTENTION TO HIMSELF.
DDUUUUUURRRRRRRRRRRRRR. I mean what the fuck else will get through to you?
Woman stands up for her human rights as they are violated > man looking for confrontation so he may express his rights and knowledge of law to some ignorant cop.
tronclay 1 year ago
@tronclay The only thing he is drawing attention to is the unlawfull detainment and harrassment by police to those exercising their 2nd amendment rights.
Its sad you feel exposing such illegal behaivior by cops to be some selfish endevour.
Think about it for a moment. If nobody bothered him, he would have nothing of interest to show and likely wouldn't show it.
You clearly try to slant his actions as personal attention when in fact, its for a greater, constitutional education purpose
yoyo762 1 year ago
@yoyo762 I clearly slant his actions? No you moron, he slanted himself within the first 5 seconds of the video as he explained his desire to attempt to be stopped by the police for the SECOND time that day.
Do you honestly think the way to educate officers about the law is to walk around trying to cause a scene? You cannot argue that he isnt TRYING to cause a problem, when he ADMITS it within the first 5 seconds.
Push for them to require more education for cops, not this attention whoring shit
tronclay 1 year ago
@tronclay hey buddy, we do it the same way here in Pa, and because of our actions, the same this fella does, they added Open Carry to every cop in the states yearly refresher training.
Standing up for your rights is attention whoring? Ill remember to say that the next time a class teaches about Rosa Parks. What an attention whore she was! -_-
YllwFvrPB 1 year ago
@YllwFvrPB Right... you and your "buds" are just attention seeking little assholes.
Dont dare compare yourself to Rosa Parks you ungrateful little fuck. She was old woman who stood up for her rights as a HUMAN BEING and refused to let some prissy young white bitch sit in her seat.
You go out looking like an american terrorist in hopes that you will get stopped and hassled, so you can hassle them back.
Comparing yourself to rosa parks makes you look like a complete fucking moron.
tronclay 1 year ago
@tronclay actually ive never been hassled in two years doing it so I dont expect to be hassled. This guy is like a cop magnet or something. And the times when people even notice Im carrying are few and far between. On the rare occasions someone notices id say 80% dont say anything, just go about there business. The rest might ask a question or two.
I have a right as a human being to be armed either way
YllwFvrPB 1 year ago
@YllwFvrPB "This guy is a cop magnet or something...."
Gee, he must be! ID imagine the rifle on his back, pistol on his hip, tactical vest on his chest and the big dark sunglasses didnt have anything to do with it. I mean, what kind of idiot would think its strange to walk up and down a busy highway with a bunch of weapons? I mean come on its common sense right? Its our right to do it so obviously we need to go out and do it right away, as much as possible, or we lose the right.... right?..
tronclay 1 year ago
@YllwFvrPB Just liek the Fred Phelps religious nut group right? They NEED to go out and call soldiers faggots, mock dead people and generally be loudmouthed, disrespectful little pricks..... because if they DONT wave a sign that says "DEAD SOLDIERS ARE FAGGOTS, LET THEM ROT", then someday they may not be ABLE to cause that much heartache and distress, right?
God forbid that ever happen huh?
tronclay 1 year ago
@YllwFvrPB By the way, it would be GREAT if you provided ANY sort of prove about your little "actions" being responsible for them adding anything to the training of cops. Or did you forget that running around claiming random things on the internet without proof makes you look like a jack ass?
tronclay 1 year ago
@tronclay sure I can provide tons of proof, want it here or in your in box?
YllwFvrPB 1 year ago
@YllwFvrPB If you are correct in your claims, why would you not want it to be posted here for everyone to see? Seems a little shady to me that you would want to keep things private. Once again, linking me to some forum where people post videos and stories of how they "totally owned" some ignorant cop who hassled them means, and proves, nothing.
tronclay 1 year ago
@tronclay your thick, and beyond help
YllwFvrPB 1 year ago
Good for you dude! Way to stand up against the law when you did nothing wrong! I am from California (I hate my state btw) and I participate in open carry. I have not been stopped yet, but I am sure I will be at some point. Continue to carry and be safe! God Bless!
hikerboy16 1 year ago 2
Keep up the good work man. Dont I.D. is a good policy. Keep up with it man! Check out my incident on my channel and comment plz!
usmcbess 1 year ago
I hate how he thought you needed a permit. I remember reading a story in American Hunter magazine about traveling with guns and the author said airport security guards would always ask him for his "gun license" and he would have to try to explain that there is no such thing as a gun license.
bluecobra95 1 year ago
cops that don't know the law are as useful as cups with holes in them
macchef01 1 year ago 5
dumb ass cops i woulded wast my time if the law allows it follow the law
44altecz 1 year ago
Fuckin Hate Filled PIGS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
dovii4ever 1 year ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
You are an ASS!!!! Why call attention to yourself? You have the right to carry...FINE, don't be an ass to the officers that contact you. Cooperate and go on your way. Your family better not cry when you get shot by someone who mistakes you for an officer.
traviesoC3 2 years ago
You're the ass. He wasn't breaking any laws and exercising a basic right guaranteed by the Constitution in New Hampshire. Just because you're from a state where the cops fear an armed citizenry doesn't mean everyone is. If you've ever spoken to an attorney about police contacts the first thing they'll tell you is not to answer any questions.The cop is also an ass for harassing this guy, who's done nothing illegal.
rdbiii 2 years ago 2
@traviesoC3 he wasnt bein an ass he was totally calm.the cop was the ass.
GunNut12680 1 year ago
@traviesoC3 dude u make no sense.why would they mistake him for an officer?are officers the only ones allowed to carry guns?
GunNut12680 1 year ago
@traviesoC3 screw you,he is a law abiding citizen minding his own business,the cop was "ASKING" him,he has no right to demand anything.good for you ,I am totally pro-law enforcement,they just need to know the law,and the constitution they're sworn to defend and uphold.
Netbum1 1 year ago
No offense, but if you are going to be carrying a firearm in the open you need to have ID on you. I have carried open in North Carolina and never had a problem but was always prepared to be questioned because it does open up the possibility of being stopped.
Now that I live in Florida I carry concealed and prefer it that way. The first thing a bad guy is going to do to someone in open carry is shoot them or take their gun. If they don't know I have it, they will when it goes bang.
Gyrene45 2 years ago
Legally I have no need to carry an ID. Do bad guys walk up to police because they are are openly carrying a gun? Nope. They will avoid that area.
I'm asked at least once when I'm out by someone if I am a police officer, which about half the time turns into a discussion about firearms, open carrying, concealed carrying, and today's violent culture.
OpenCarryNH 2 years ago 2
@OpenCarryNH
What I would have done is give my name and town of residence. That should suffice.
TheAerocow 1 year ago
@TheAerocow I saw as much lawful reason to provide him with that information as he lawfully had the right to even ask.
OpenCarryNH 1 year ago
We shouldn't have to carry I.D. everywhere and we shouldn't be harassed for exercising Constitutional rights...period.
rdbiii 2 years ago 5
@Gyrene45 i agree only on that he shouldve had his i.d. then they probably would left him alone sooner but from the looks of it those cops were dicks
GunNut12680 1 year ago
What are you hoping to attain? Recognition of open carry? Good. nicely done. However, all you're doing is inciting incident for point proving. this isn't the 50's anymore. People used to be able to walk around with guns before things like the DC sniper, Son Of Sam, VT, Colombine, the tower and the Ohio guard put people in a position where maybe they have a justifiable reasoning in thinking it worrysome for a man to walk down the street with a gun. More power to you I guess Mr. Pistolero.
japrat91 2 years ago
I am hoping to be able to walk around New Hampshire without asking for permission to carry a gun (meaning I can't conceal carry since I don't want to ask for permission).
OpenCarryNH 2 years ago
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callihn 2 years ago
Would be nice, but for whatever reason they don't seem to do that here. Some towns I've never had problems in. Others I do.
OpenCarryNH 2 years ago
Out of complete curiousity, what were you packing?
Ghostsofthefuture 2 years ago
Sig239, two spare mags, camcorder, and a flashlight.
OpenCarryNH 2 years ago
Great job. Nice video.
numba1stunna4269 2 years ago
GRE-500
OpenCarryNH 2 years ago
So open carry is legal in your state? I ask this because I am in MA and only police officers can open carry Conceled is fine (with proper license) I think open carry is a better idea. Thank you for posting this all the more reason to leave Taxachussetts Well done for you and others protecting our and your second amendment freedom. Keep safe.
IF GUNS WERE OUTLAWED ONLY OUTLAWS WOULD HAVE GUNS.
empd528 2 years ago 2
Yes, it is legal, and guaranteed by the constitution. The AG a few years back even stated: "Another person's annoyance or alarm (at the site of a gun) does not override a persons Right to carry/posses a gun."
OpenCarryNH 2 years ago
I dont have this problem when I open carry in michigan. Try contacting police cheifs, sherriffs, and legislatures with the pertinent information related to open carry.
hercprsound 2 years ago
"do you have any idea how many complaints we've gotten?" aaaaand did they try telling any of the callers that open carry is legal, and to have a nice day and not waste their time anymore? They should have.
constitutionalist89d 2 years ago 7
Probably one call... and again yes, they should say "open carry is legal....is the person threatening anyone or handling the firearm in public? No. Okay, we'll drive by and take a look but we can't do anything."
OpenCarryNH 2 years ago
handle perfectly on your part i believe.
famasdan 2 years ago
Yeah, dude. I live in Wv. I am about to go to court over a gun they found in my car. Was pretty much open carry and not only that. but the clip wasn't even in the car. Aside that, the firing pin was even broken. Really a bunch of bull, because they're saying I'll have to serve 30 days in jail and a 500 fine . When our state is open carry, and recently passed Castle Law.
CrippledRufus 2 years ago
In our community, there are police who actually "patrol" a recycle bin! Only residents of the small city are allowed to use the bins. Instead of fighting real crimes, they're sitting in the parking lot "guarding" the damned bins. These guys are such dicks!
mmmbad 2 years ago 4
This man did not commit a crime. We need to stop funding our police to focus on stupid shit. We need more police officers that have the balls to go to hotspots and deal with REAL crime organizations(gangs, racing, vandals, rapist, ect). and Not arresting individuals that would love nothing other than to be left alone, just to fill their quota.
Stealthx37 2 years ago 13
Common sense should always apply in these situations (why OC when you can CC) and why not co-operate with the officer rather than cause him to become riled and suspicious.
However kudos to you for raising awareness of your rights to OC.
deconverts 2 years ago
If I may suggest a more powerful way yo make a protest would be to organise an event where a series of OC'ers get together at the same time and do something beneficial for the community like litterpicking?
It's been done before (search youtube for the videos) in Nevada to what seems like great effect.
deconverts 2 years ago
Notice the cops straight up tell him he has done nothing wrong,but harass him anyway.
What opinionated psychopaths they are.
THAWK3 2 years ago
Bravo! You're a regular Rosa Parks... you douche bag.
AdamH526 2 years ago