I don't know how people can argue that a stateless society can have bribery and corruption in it. Bribery can only work in a system where the initiation of force is accepted as justice and morality. Bribery is simply using money or favors to persuade an administrator of "legal force" to use that force to one's benefit. Take away the legality of force (and the non-contributing bureaucracy that goes with it).... and there is no one left to bribe.
@erentheca I've asked them to point to real world examples of this and they refuse to answer. I point to private regulating firms like UL and they also refuse to answer.
you've come to fight as a free man and a free man you are!
fear is the tool of control, it is an offense to anything deemed civilized. i say live your life fearlessly and do as you please within reason, i download tons of crap illegally and i'll be damned if i'm going to lose sleep over it. fuck these people.
I don't see why artists don't just make money the way that most websites do. They could just make their material available for free on their own websites, and then charge people to advertise on their sites. The more popular their song/movies/games/whatever were, the more hits their site would get, and the more money they'd make selling ad space. This seems like a much simpler and more effective way of solving the piracy problem than locking people up for 50 years.
@mrplow8 The smart ones are doing that. It's the slower ones who whine to daddy govco to make the mean old internet go away so they can prop up their outdated business model.
The internet has made publishing companies into unneccessary middlemen and rather than embrace this and come up with a new plan, they'd rather just throw a tantrum about it.
@lordthawkeye I think that is the real issue of it. As much as the publishers whine and complain about "intellectual property rights" invoking the image of a poor author, musician, artist, or director, who has been "cheated" of his wages (even though those rights are owned by the publisher and the artist gets a fraction of the revenues) their real fear is that the internet will lead creative people to bypass the publishers entirely... and they can't let that happen....
Megaupload was launching an Internet-based, extremely low-overhead record label. I'm not entirely sure how that was gonna work, but part of the business model was to pay artists per download, even though some or all of the downloads were going to be free. It's rumored that they had some pretty big artists ready to sign on with them, supposedly including famed rapper will.i.am.
Then the so-called Department of Justice happened.
I don't know how people can argue that a stateless society can have bribery and corruption in it. Bribery can only work in a system where the initiation of force is accepted as justice and morality. Bribery is simply using money or favors to persuade an administrator of "legal force" to use that force to one's benefit. Take away the legality of force (and the non-contributing bureaucracy that goes with it).... and there is no one left to bribe.
erentheca 1 month ago
@erentheca I've asked them to point to real world examples of this and they refuse to answer. I point to private regulating firms like UL and they also refuse to answer.
Sorry folks but empericism always beats theory.
lordthawkeye 1 month ago
@lordthawkeye True that.
erentheca 4 weeks ago
that picture makes me nervous because i have a crap load of music i didnt pay for and games i didnt pay for.... :'(
topei18 1 month ago
@topei18
you've come to fight as a free man and a free man you are!
fear is the tool of control, it is an offense to anything deemed civilized. i say live your life fearlessly and do as you please within reason, i download tons of crap illegally and i'll be damned if i'm going to lose sleep over it. fuck these people.
junior00bacon00chee 1 month ago
Statist logic: Monopolies are bad, except when they're coercive, then they're integral to human society.
crazypants88 1 month ago
@crazypants88 Therefore: Monopolies are bad...except the state; It's a "good" monopoly. Yes, yes, a "good" bloated, inefficient, irresponsive, self-serving, self-justifying, criminal monopoly...
ebalosus2 1 month ago
@ebalosus2
"except the state" and ones created/maintained by the state; don't forget.
vspqbd 1 month ago
@crazypants88
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junior00bacon00chee 1 month ago
I don't see why artists don't just make money the way that most websites do. They could just make their material available for free on their own websites, and then charge people to advertise on their sites. The more popular their song/movies/games/whatever were, the more hits their site would get, and the more money they'd make selling ad space. This seems like a much simpler and more effective way of solving the piracy problem than locking people up for 50 years.
mrplow8 1 month ago
@mrplow8 The smart ones are doing that. It's the slower ones who whine to daddy govco to make the mean old internet go away so they can prop up their outdated business model.
The internet has made publishing companies into unneccessary middlemen and rather than embrace this and come up with a new plan, they'd rather just throw a tantrum about it.
lordthawkeye 1 month ago
@lordthawkeye I think that is the real issue of it. As much as the publishers whine and complain about "intellectual property rights" invoking the image of a poor author, musician, artist, or director, who has been "cheated" of his wages (even though those rights are owned by the publisher and the artist gets a fraction of the revenues) their real fear is that the internet will lead creative people to bypass the publishers entirely... and they can't let that happen....
erentheca 1 month ago
@erentheca The image of poor artists is misleading when you think about who actually owns most copyrights. Sure as heck ain't the creators themselves.
Like Jim Sterling said, for publishers to complain about piracy is like a burglar complaining that he got mugged. Very hard to sympathize.
lordthawkeye 1 month ago
@mrplow8
Megaupload was launching an Internet-based, extremely low-overhead record label. I'm not entirely sure how that was gonna work, but part of the business model was to pay artists per download, even though some or all of the downloads were going to be free. It's rumored that they had some pretty big artists ready to sign on with them, supposedly including famed rapper will.i.am.
Then the so-called Department of Justice happened.
PanzerDivisionBOM 1 month ago
Don't steal, the government hates competition.
MirageScience 1 month ago
It's like the Middle Ages. You can kill one of your fellow serfs, but the second you even inconvenience one of the nobility it is off to the tower.
johnrainrules 1 month ago 2