The republicans have devolved into the perfect case study of how effective branding no matter how hollow can carry the day just by group think and that group think can be summed up in the words of Upton Sinclair who wrote when fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying the cross.
Even if Reagan had been doing the 100% right thing back in the 80's it makes no difference to what should be done today because if nothing else we live in a different world then we did 30 years ago. Times have changed.
So your answer is "take money out the economy, use part of it to pay the government, and then put it back in to the economy. Ya that'll work" The problem is that the average job the government has created by stimulus cost over $1 million. They also go to companies that will not survive so those jobs don't last long anyway. Stimulus is not the answer. I will concede tax cuts don't really help. P.S., a majority of economists believe there is very little the government can do anyway.
FDR made the more changes and progress in office than any other president before him and any known president after him. The New Deal along with FDR's economic plan, as most historians and economist agree, had pulled the US and most the world outside of the Great Depression. WW2 had a large hand inside of the economic stability, but without FDR's bombshell and FDR pulling the US into WW2 it would all simply return to circular loans.
So your one of those ignorant libtards that think WW2 Cut short the depression?
Buddie, wars only destroy.
He also instated regulations on Hollywood saying movie stars can only be in one picture a year.
gold hording, and telling all Farmers they can only use half their land to "Stabilize" food prices. Well it did just at a cost however while food was cheap, it was scarce and thousands of Americans starved to death.
You know that roosevelt wasn't president at the beginning of the great depression.
The progressives had not had any political stance since Woodrow Wilson. That is, just so you know, 3 republican presidents who stood back and let the money be syphoned globally directly to the top bracket in America and it all blew up in their faces in 1929. Roosevelt was elected in 1931. The people who attacked Roosevelt must be psychic; in 1999, did they also attack Obama for not preventing 911
@ThatBlackPanda WTF?? That makes no sense. Woodrow Wilson actually made the Federal Reserve, He then admited he ruined the country by passing the Federal Reserve Act and the 16th Amendment. Any well informed economist knows the Federal Reserve is the primary cause of the Great Depression. Can you say "Easy Money"??? Please take some economic classes or read some REAL economic books reading: Crash Proof 2.0 by Peter Schiff Liberalism by Ludgwig Von Mises Economics in one lesson by Henry Hazlt
Progressives had no hand in causing the great depression (just like this depression). The economists should have attacked the three Republican presidents before FDR for not stopping the Great depression which many economists saw coning due to the fact that the middle class was shrinking and the rich were absorbing a mass of the money. Circular loan hell was going on since 1918 and after the Ruhr Crisis it was obvious to everyone. You have good citations, bad connections.
@ThatBlackPanda WOW. Your right the Republican Presidents could have done more. The only thing that could have been done was obolishing the FED. Hmmmm. Well I'm pretty sure Bill Clinton added significant funds to Freddie and Fannie. I guess you don't understand boom and bust.. The only economist that predicted the Great Depression was FA Hayek. I don't think you understand Democrats and Republicans are the same on Economic matters. All want 2 do is spend. One on Welfare the other Warfare
FA Hayek's prediction of the Great Depression was like that of a mad man shouting on a street corner, an educated mad man, but a mad man none the least. He was a man who had hated the thought of social justice and called it "misguided". He believed in golden shower economics, during his younger days but after a while (1960s) he admitted that laissez-faire government would evolve into fascism "only" if the corporate powers cooperated for power. He predicted a depression which his mindset caused.
"Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the merger of state and corporate power." -- Benito Mussolini
"I find myself more and more relying for a solution of our problems on the invisible hand which I tried to eject from economic thinking twenty years ago." - John Maynard Keynes
New Dealers never accepted the Keynesian argument for government spending as a vehicle for recovery. Most economists of the era, along with Henry Morgenthau of the Treasury Department, rejected Keynesian solutions and favored balanced budgets. - Leuchtenburg p. 171, 245-6; Herbert Stein, Presidential economics: The making of economic policy from Roosevelt to Reagan and beyond (1984)
"Let us be brought to believe it is morally right, and, at the same time, favorable to, or, at least, not against, our interest, to transfer the African to his native clime, and we shall find a way to do it, however great the task may be. The children of Israel, to such numbers as to include four hundred thousand fighting men, went out of Egyptian bondage in a body."
What he says about spending in a recession is hilarious. Maybe they should learn some economics and realize how government causes these problems. Of course they act like these ideas are just crap made up by Reagan, (who did not support smaller govt) relying on the viewer to be ignorant of the existence of the austrian school as well as the information they made very clear.
I tried to listen honestly and closely to what you have to say here. I hear a lot of very passionate complaining and "finger pointing" but I have heard not one single solution regarding this Recession/Depression that President Obama has completely exacerbated by spending all of this borrowed money that WILL HAVE TO BE PAID BACK!. People understand that it takes more than pointing figures and assessing blame. It takes a clear direction and a plan.
@pegclairezach Obama does have one. Bipartisan Fiscal Coalition, but then the Republicans rejected it and goes for the LOL Ryan Budget Plan.
You think the President alone have enough power to do what he wants to do in a far right Republican filled Senate? Even 1/3 of the dems are corrupted by the Corporations, so tell me what is your solution when the GOP filibusters everything?
Republicans don't want recovery, they want double dip recession so they might win the Presidency again.
I don't know what you democrats want. Ronald Reagan was a great president. Don't try to change that because that's a fact and you can't change history. Bush was terrible and that too is true. You democrats talk like you'd want to be all by yourselves giving away money and destroying the budget...we need balance. We need different opinions and minds. I say you should be proud of your party but dont talk trash about the Republicans....you sound like comminists,please!
@lthalial Yes we need different opinions and minds. Just not from the Republican side, their goal have been clear since Obama took the Presidency. Trash talking Republicans doesn't make you a communist, since people in the US don't even know what communism is, they just link it to liberals out of ignorance.
Trash talking about a party that have been doing trash politics is bad in what way? You still believe Republicans are the true patriots? HAH Even the military knows GOP are now trash.
@Neosaigo Yes, few Americans (specially republicans) know what communism is, or maybe they want to make everyone think liberals are communists even if they know that isn't true. I find it funny how they compare the two. I do know what it is so I find it wonderful that Dem. and Rep. have to argue every detail and almost always get to some kind of agreement somewhere in the middle. In my opinion that's beautiful. But comparing Reagan to Bush and pretending Democrats are always right is silly...
Cenk Uygur should say his name at the beginning and end of each talk so that folks get used to hearing his name, particularly his last name. It's a free way to desensitize folks to the name. Don't waste the opportunity.
ANybody who takes the Young Turks seriously is Pathetic. I'm not saying that I disagree with their position on Government involvment during recession, BUT, The way they turn it into a statement trying to claim that "Republicans are old". That's where the Young Turks are idiots.
It seems like there are those who are frozen in the 50's and would like to forget about the whole social revolution of the 60's and 70's! Consciousness is becoming more refined and our societal structure must adhere to it.
Of course the Young Jerk and his band of merry leftist/Socialist/Marxist want change! They want socialil justice economic justice, free healthcare for all, they want to share the wealth for the evil business people, they want factory jobs for everyone, guarenteed income, guarenteed work, and total equality for all of the working class.
Wait a minute isn't that the exact same platform of Lenin, Mao, Hitler, Kim Il Sung, Che, and all the other Socialist mass murderers? Nice going Young Jerk!
@TAMPADOC64 right and our current system of fake capitialism (code for, corporate tyranny) is going fast in the direction of the fake socialist countries, or is already there when you see the damage and death it is responsible for outside our little western bubble (not to mention the increasing damage and death it's responsible for even within)
let me give you a short history lesson. the crash of 1921. no government intervention, gut taxes and spending. recovered in 18 months. the crash of 29 had huge government intervention by both FDR and Hoover . went on for over 15 years. gees which one works better
Obama has been president for 2 years....u are so quick to blame him for unemployment..the huge debt....but let's not forgot it was in fact REPUBLICANS who got us into this damn mess in the first place. u had your 8 years and look what you did to our country. We are in debt because we are still paying for your war in iraq to find those "weapons of mass destruction" did you ever find them? lol It is because of republicans that our country is not progressing
Obama has been president for 2 years....u are so quick to blame him for unemployment..the huge debt....but let's not forgot it was in fact REPUBLICANS who got us into this damn mess in the first place. u had your 8 years and look what you did to our country. We are in debt because we are still paying for your war in iraq to find those "weapons of mass destruction" did you ever find them? lol It is because of republicans that our country is not progressing
The Tea Baggers (Republicans), are making me laugh more, and more. They are sfraid that Sestak will win in PA. That's because he will. Back room deals. Who gives a fuck. That's been going in local, state, and federal governments for decades. What else is new? They, the Baggers, realize they're momentum is losing ground. Especiall when dumb asses like Racist Rnad Rand, and idiot Sue Lowden says the dumb shit that they say.
Spending freeze doesn't mean stop spending, it means don't add anything to the budget, and this is a fundamentally sound concept, especially for a bankrupt nation like ours. "Because they aren't using their minds."
Heres me not using my mind: What do you do when china stops buying our worthless bonds? How do you fund irresponsible, wasteful, crony-capitalistic government programs then? Tax more? Print money? Share your wisdom!
@Hokibukisa First of all because of inflation spending freeze is in fact a cut. Secondly in order to survive in the long run most companies have to avoid bankruptcy and be in a position to expand during recovery. Assets won't be used if no one buys them! Crony capitalism is a problem but its not solved by shrinking government because congress takes their cut first and most money is for mandated programs look at the budget.
@zxcvbnmjhgfdsa1 Spending freeze is not shrinking government unfortunately, it just means oh hay we can't afford the crap we have right now, maybe we shouldn't spend even more than we did last year.
You are correct about the assets, assets wont be used if people don't buy them. PEOPLE. The government is not people. Suggesting that if the government does not spend your money for you that you will not spend it shows a complete lack of faith in the american people.
@Hokibukisa If wages are going up (hopefully at the rate of inflation) and the same money is put into departments, they have to fire people or provide less services. As inflation increases and economy grows the government will spend less as a percentage of GDP. People want deals but they also want the BEST deal. Look at the stock market it went down 50% before people felt it was at the bottom. Housing was the same but in the meantime allot of empty houses!
@zxcvbnmjhgfdsa1 Freeze government growth, hell SHRINK the government spending, and all of those "mandated programs" that WE CANN'T AFFORD ANYWAYS will just have to do with less funds, exist with no funding, or just be dissolved.
However this video is old and the healthcare bill has passed since then. An enormous spending increase! We couldn't pay our bills last year, we sure as hell wont be able to pay them in the future.
@Hokibukisa I agree that budget isin't remotly sustainable without large changes America will never have a surplus again. However I also think that if you lookat what government is actually doing compared to other first world countries it seems like very little. The reality is that government just needs to be as efficent as other countries rather than make cuts. US government spends more on health care per person than France and France covers all citizens!
@zxcvbnmjhgfdsa1 You're distracted with healthcare funding, that isn't even the big picture. The big picture is that we are broke with a government that is behaving like a teenager with his first credit card. We are currently being funded by china buying up lots of 30 year bonds, plus even china is going broke. When they realize that we have no plan to be able to pay them back, or they go broke, they'll stop buying our bonds.
Once china stops investing then we either print money,or raise taxes.
@Hokibukisa Government spends 8% of the nations GDP on health care it is the big picture. The deficits are large but so far the interest cost by themselves aren't alot. Other countries have larger debts like Italy and interest rates are low. Debt is a long term disadvantage but it doesin't mean US can only do IMF approved activities!
@crazyozzyking agreed authoritarian government is needed to stop US from being a lame duck Republicans have Katrina, Democrats have BP oil spill. If nobody wants either party in power why does everyone strategicly vote for them?
@crazyozzyking I say "YES WE CAN" to this! We could use some gulags and about 14.5 million starved to death here in the U.S.A like they did in the good old soviet union! PERESTROIKA!
Republicnas are conservative, the only reason their plans don't work anymore is the fact that the hippies have reached the "congressional age" of between 45 and 70, therefore putting them at the peak of political power. Two angry factions, the conserative right, and the communistic left are poised to fight it out until only one remains. It seems that both parties are becoming more aloof, losing touch with the american people as they begin to form the "Tea Party" party in protest of both sides.
@FinalFantasySage8888 They lose touch with americans because being in touch and giving people what they want doesin't get them elected, money does. Now we have a president who got most of his money from ordinary individuals and congress who gets money from traditional sources. No wonder it's sooo exiting!
Absolutely correct diagnosis of the GOP. The strange truth now, is that no one is paying taxes anymore: The poor get "earned income tax credits" which give them back far more than they have withheld. The rich are lawfully paying no taxes on inherited money, investment earnings, or a whole host of creative compensation packages too complex to describe here. The middle class gets child exemptions and mortgage interest deductions that keep them even. Maybe a few single, high income earners pay
@Stevorino123 It is the professional middle class that pays! The employed doctors with 6 figure salaries as well as other high earning proffessionals. Funny thing is the last true taxpayers vote democrat.
@AtlasShruggery You're another Jon Stewert. He plucks out tiny excerpts. and bends the information. So, you take these quotes totally out of context.
i think that everything is wrong with that republicans. they called president obama a communist. and calling his plans for change socilism. but george w. bush have ran this country like Nazism. and the republicans need to worry more about there racism. the republicans shouldn't believe in ism's but believe in themselfs. i guess that is why they can't never get it ? because retartedism.
There ARE economists out there, very bright ones, who say that we could've easily gotten out of the Depression in just 7 years, rather than over a decade. But Keynesians from the Hoover Administration and the New Dealers took over and misinterpreted the cause of the collapse as "too much greed on Wall St." and "excessive speculation", which is an oxymoron. Economic speculation is a type of COMPETITION in the market, not a cartel. The Pecora Commission was a huge joke, too.
Keynesianism makes me sick, and what makes me wanna puke is people who still hold onto this dead, long-de bunked ideology just because they favor massive gov't spending. That's the ONLY reason! Look at David Brooks, for christ sake! He's not a conservative Republican. Sure, on some issues, he is, but he's a MODERATE overall. The neocons are notorious proponents of big government and the welfare state.
Whatever gov't spends money on, the private sector could do it much better, I assure you.
@whoo "private sector could do it much better" then rape the workers untill the recession is back, then morons like you will keep saying that, and keep a vicous sercle.
True market economists like Milton Friedman wiped guys like Keynes's clocks. There is no way in hell that most economists in the US are Keynesians. That's bullshit. If anything, they just favor liberal policies BECAUSE they're Democrats, not because they have actual proof that most liberal economic policies work well. Paul Krugman is a GREAT example of this. He's more of a liberal pundit than an actual economist. He knows nothing about the market. I'm 22, and I know more than him.
"No economist", Cenk? Well, now you're just spouting Obama talking points! I can name one GREAT economist who knew his stuff: Milton Friedman. John Maynard Keynes was a moron, and he was debunked about half a century ago by guys like Friedman and Henry Hazlitt. Here's some other smart anti-Keynesians: Ludwig von Mises, Carl Menger, Robert Higgs, F.A. Hayek and Mark Skousen, to name a few. And those are certainly NOT in the minority, I can assure you. Krugman's ilk are in the minority.
Reading a Paul Krugman article is like reading "My Pet Goat" upside-down. I bet even BUSH could understand those.
Economists these days are more Keynesian in the realm of monetarism and central banking than anything else. They DO NOT think that in a recession cutting spending is "evil!!!" It's bs, too. Is this to say that our economy is so weak and fragile that it can't grow back on its own, that gov't needs to 'prime the pump' and make it dependent on tax dollars? Please
I love economics, but I cannot find ONE interesting or deep-thinking article from a guy like Krugman that made me think "ohhh! He's onto something!" He recently wrote the dumbest article EVER. What was it about? Oh yeah, that we should CONTINUE massive deficits and perhaps even expand them just to keep the economy from collapsing.
WHAT??? Are you insane, Mr. Krugman? Does that mean we should also expand the Medicare-SS fiscal gap to $60 trillion? Get real, Paul. And leave Princeton.
I'm not saying the free market is perfect, but Keynesians grossly underestimate its potential. By the Keynesians' logic, Japan should've overtaken the US over a decade ago in GDP and growth! Remember the 8 stimulus packages in the 90s? They went absolutely nowhere! The gov't redirected way too much money into ill-advised programs and kept it out of the free market to do its magic. And all this starting at a time when Japan had a huge financial crisis. Keynesianism held Japan back.
Why would liberals believe we didn't land on the moon? North Korean world, u don't know what it's like in North Korea. Comments like these is why I know I'm smarter than conervatives and liberals.
this is just too biased and innacurate it's a joke. seriously, just about 85% of the time when he says "most people ..." it's a lie. like what he said about government not taking action, that's an absolute lie that no economist says that. most of them are saying that, actually. no where in the constitution is the government allowed to interfere in the business world.
You would think the RepubliCON Party would ask for a FEDERAL BAILOUT due to their holding NO true VALUE anymore, embarrassing down-sizing, & being TOTALLY unsuccessful when it comes to having a say in ANY matters which reach the House or Senate Floor. (LOL)
Flush Dimbaugh needs to get OFF the Oxy-Contin....it's obviously eaten away his entire brain!
President Obama was also right on John Boehner. He needs to do something about the obvious cheap face-tan color spray he uses daily.
I said we need to cut taxes, not get rid of them altogether. Everybody knows that.
And that is socialism. That's total socialism. Socialism includes spreading the wealth, having government regulate and open new buisnesses which will increase taxes. And if you look it up, you will realize that socialism has never worked before.
Obama is giving tax cuts to the middle class, the rich still have the tax cuts from the Bush years that will run through 2011. And raising taxes is not socialism is actually what is fiscal conservatism, since it helps reduce the debt.
Tax breaks for the wealthy mean less money for governmental agencies to do there jobs in regards to the other 95% of Americans. You do know that the rich are only 5% of the population, yet control 90% of the wealth. If you make the most money you will be higher taxes. The middle class is the backbone of society.
"You do know that the rich are only 5% of the population, yet control 90% of the wealth. If you make the most money you will be higher taxes."- That is such a lie. 90% of the wealth. That has never been proven before.
The money isn't been spread around, no one is getting a free handout. Raising taxes helps to balance the debt. You can not cut taxes and spend alot of money like the Bush years.
And socialists would claim that "capitalism has never worked before" because of the higher rate of poverty, the tendancy for more extreme groups to arise and the periodic market crashes that wipe out so many people's life savings.
Bush cut taxes but increased spending by a huge amount. And then he tried to cover it by not including much of the military expenditures in his budgets.
There are great Republicans out there -both historically and today - who are smart, honest and worth admiring.
Bush is none of these and you would do well to find someone else to hold up as an example of "fiscal conservatism."
You won't find a fiscal conservative in any modern day Republican. The only difference between Republican and Democrats spending habits is that Democrats don't try to hide it and can actually pay it off. Debt is usually higher under a Republican then a Democrat.
Bush is not the greatest president ever, but my point is is that he does not deserve to be ranked number 37 out of 42. He deserves a better spot than FDR, who is number 3.
And my main point is that Bush doesn't deserve all the credit for keeping America stable, but democrats deserve absolutely none of the credit.
FDR is much better President then George Bush, he helped lead us through the depression and WWII. George Bush only ray of sun was the few weeks after 9/11 after that was a disaster.
Well, Canada also has SOME jobs. I think you meant to say that Canada has a higher unemployment rate that the US, which is true.
However, when unemployed, Canadians have very generous benifits, almost 90% for a long period of time. They also can go back to Uni. without losing it. So, they don't suffer so much from it. Also, much less poverty in Canada.
Look at the list of the 10 happiest countries that came out a few weeks ago, Sweden,Canda Switzerland, Norway made the list, what do they all have in common?
The USA is a great country even without history. Throughout their history, they've been a great country.
Every single country in the world besides the Middle East wants to be an ally with us because they would not want to mess with us.
A lot of Canadians are just a bunch of whiny, socialist, border-hopping users who come into our country, work here, make significantly more money, and then go ack and sleep in Canada at night.
So the US is a great country because it can frighten everyone and only the Middle East (plus Cuba and other South American countries, African nations etc etc) have the guts to stand up to you? Great reasoning, moron. I love life indeed. You love racism, more like. You are a stereotypical US moron who has been ignored and allowed to stagnate intellectually by the Reagan/Bush/Shrub policies towards education.
Where did you read that I am racist. LIBERAL ALERT; putting words in my mouth.
You are a moron who has no clue what makes a country great. We are the only country who has lasted without a monarch for as long as we've existed. We are the only country that has the right to speak freely of our leader, without being prosecuted and all the other countries in Europe and the rest of the world depend on us so much that they would fall flat if they didn't have our support.
By the way, our education system was fine under Reagan and Bush. Our education system has always been great, and untill you prove me otherwise, you are a moron.
You don't have the right to talk about other people's countries that way. America is great, but it's not the greatest. Every country is great in its own special way.
I absolutely do have the right to because we are the greatest country to ever exist. Americans are so spoiled because we have all the protection, rights, and freedom that most of the world dreams of, and yet, we aren't the greatest? How aren't we?
But how do you define 'the greatest'? Every country is great in it's own special way. We aren't the only country in the world to have rights and freedom. The US is great. But so is Japan, Britain, Turkey, and a handful of other nations.
I define greatest as a powerful, longlasting, and devoted country. We have the most devoted military that will fight for the country no matter what the risk is. We have technology that makes other countries become jealous. And we have more sights to see and more free choices than everywhere else in the world.
By your definition, one could say that North Korea is the second greatest country in the world because it has the second strongest military. Also by your definition, China and Egypt could be called the greatest countries because they have been around the longest. Iran could be called the greatest since it has the most devotion (to Islam and nuclear warfare). France, Briton, and Japan could also be called the greatest because they are amongst the most technologically advanced countries.
Personally, I would define the greatest country as the most peaceful and generous nation. A great country should have high standards of living, and make sure that all of its citizens have access to health care, education, housing, etc. It should be advanced and invest in science and technology. A great nation should also be a stable democracy without corrupt leadership. It should promote peace in the world and help those in poor nations.
I disagree on the fact that ALL citizens should have a high standard of living. Like the kids who smoke pot and inject themselves with drugs all day. They belong on the streets for being failures.
No, not all citizens should have a high standard of living. But people who are willing to make something of themselves should. Many of those kids you mention were born into it and can be rehabilitated.
I was born into poverty and that influenced me not to be an idiot and do drugs all day. Like 1% of people without healthcare are actually fighting to be able to afford it. Anyone can afford healthcare if they don't spend their money on things they don't need.
That's not true at all. There are literally millions of people in America who want healthcare but simply can't afford it. I recently heard a story of a woman who had a good job but had to quit because of tumor in her kidney. She had her tumor removed and her healthcare provided the money. Later, she developed a tumor in her other kidney. However, because she could no longer work after the operation, she longer had healthcare and couldn't afford her medical care.
Having socialised healthcare as an option doesn't make a country socialist, in the uk i can still get private care if i want, i work for a private company.
We have more aspects of socialism in the UK than in the US, but to call it a socialist country is crazy.
@xitongzou Yea ??? Socialism to What extent? And, how is Government intervention the same as full-fledged socialism. Just because governments pass laws, that doesn't make it socialist.
@xitongzou haha they're not "socialist" governments that's for certain. however, they have borrowed what they found to be workable socialist ideas and integrated them with their democracies. US has of course done this too, just to a much lesser extent They're social democracies, not socialist. But there are no strict lines, no matter what certain others may want you to think.
@xitongzou they're not socialist countries. However, their governments have borrowed what they found to be workable socialist ideas and integrated them into their democracies. The US has done this too of course, just to a much lesser extent due to the tradition of "commie" paranoia in that country.
Hoover did next to nothing '29 - '33 and by the end of his term, unemployment was over 30% (according to statistics given at the time, which took previously working women into account).
FDR comes in and expands government as far as the other two branches will let him and by 1939, unemployment was almost cut in half.
That's why we had Keynesian economics for so long. That's why W. Bush rushed to bail out the insurance companies - even using socialist policies where necessary.
The unemployment rate by 1941 (not 1945, sorry) had not changed by the end of FDR's second term. What brought us out of the depression was the war, which opened MILLIONS of jobs.
You are close but not exactly correct - the unemployment rate declined throughout the New Deal, though not at nearly the rate its supporters had hoped.
You are correct however, about the New Deal failing to end the Depression before Pearl Harbor, but if the war had not occured it seems likely we would have been out of the Depression by 1945 anyway.
BTW, it was the unique set of circumstances *after* the war that brought high-level prosperity, not the war by itself.
The government wouldn't be paying for people's healthcare, you will still have to pay. It just going to make healtcare more affordable, so you won't be slamed with bills when you are sick.
He would lower premiums through a program that would reduce the exposure of employer health plans to costs of a catastrophic illness. Drug costs would be lowered by allowing patients to buy drugs from abroad and letting the government negotiate for lower prices."
Maybe the Grand Old Hypocrites should become Pinky to the Argentina's Peronistas' Brain and take over the world!!
bannor99 1 month ago
The republicans have devolved into the perfect case study of how effective branding no matter how hollow can carry the day just by group think and that group think can be summed up in the words of Upton Sinclair who wrote when fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying the cross.
idicula1979 4 months ago
Even if Reagan had been doing the 100% right thing back in the 80's it makes no difference to what should be done today because if nothing else we live in a different world then we did 30 years ago. Times have changed.
Kingucktoad 4 months ago
So your answer is "take money out the economy, use part of it to pay the government, and then put it back in to the economy. Ya that'll work" The problem is that the average job the government has created by stimulus cost over $1 million. They also go to companies that will not survive so those jobs don't last long anyway. Stimulus is not the answer. I will concede tax cuts don't really help. P.S., a majority of economists believe there is very little the government can do anyway.
shiningbeans 4 months ago
why don't American conservatives rename their party to "The New Nazi Party", i mean they aren't far off, lets be honest.
conday1990 5 months ago
hussein could have came and blamed the previos administration's fault...not what happenened heree, Kenya boi... bubble boy...
Hope and Change MY BLACK ASS!
SuperMegaUberGenius 5 months ago
OK LETS TINK WHO HAS HELP OUS AMERICANS MORE REBUBLICANS OR THE DEMOCRATS. I CAN TELL YOU HOW DID NOT THE DEM.
never1time 6 months ago
New deal failed
Salvysahagun 6 months ago
@Salvysahagun
The New Deal Failed?
Are you retarded or a troll sir?
ThatBlackPanda 6 months ago
@ThatBlackPanda
Look up the Agriculture Adjustment Act of 1933
and Executive Order 6102.
FDR had a lot of good policies but many destructive ones as well.
Salvysahagun 6 months ago
@Salvysahagun
Not Perfect does not equal "a failure".
FDR made the more changes and progress in office than any other president before him and any known president after him. The New Deal along with FDR's economic plan, as most historians and economist agree, had pulled the US and most the world outside of the Great Depression. WW2 had a large hand inside of the economic stability, but without FDR's bombshell and FDR pulling the US into WW2 it would all simply return to circular loans.
ThatBlackPanda 6 months ago
@ThatBlackPanda
So your one of those ignorant libtards that think WW2 Cut short the depression?
Buddie, wars only destroy.
He also instated regulations on Hollywood saying movie stars can only be in one picture a year.
gold hording, and telling all Farmers they can only use half their land to "Stabilize" food prices. Well it did just at a cost however while food was cheap, it was scarce and thousands of Americans starved to death.
Salvysahagun 6 months ago
@ThatBlackPanda
You should also realize the bias most Economist have.
Keysenian Policies have hi-jacked all university economics. But these same professors said "everything is fine"
"The Housing Bubble Is contained" "Monetary Policy is Excellent" "The US economy is in its prime"
If you do your research thou the people who attack Roosevelt are in reality the only economist that acuratly called the recession.
FA Hayek called the Great Depression two years before black friday.
Salvysahagun 6 months ago
@Salvysahagun
You know that roosevelt wasn't president at the beginning of the great depression.
The progressives had not had any political stance since Woodrow Wilson. That is, just so you know, 3 republican presidents who stood back and let the money be syphoned globally directly to the top bracket in America and it all blew up in their faces in 1929. Roosevelt was elected in 1931. The people who attacked Roosevelt must be psychic; in 1999, did they also attack Obama for not preventing 911
ThatBlackPanda 6 months ago
Salvysahagun 6 months ago
@ThatBlackPanda
Why don't you try refuting some of my datat instead of going on a tangent.
Salvysahagun 6 months ago
@Salvysahagun
Progressives had no hand in causing the great depression (just like this depression). The economists should have attacked the three Republican presidents before FDR for not stopping the Great depression which many economists saw coning due to the fact that the middle class was shrinking and the rich were absorbing a mass of the money. Circular loan hell was going on since 1918 and after the Ruhr Crisis it was obvious to everyone. You have good citations, bad connections.
ThatBlackPanda 6 months ago
Salvysahagun 6 months ago
FA Hayek's prediction of the Great Depression was like that of a mad man shouting on a street corner, an educated mad man, but a mad man none the least. He was a man who had hated the thought of social justice and called it "misguided". He believed in golden shower economics, during his younger days but after a while (1960s) he admitted that laissez-faire government would evolve into fascism "only" if the corporate powers cooperated for power. He predicted a depression which his mindset caused.
ThatBlackPanda 6 months ago
@ThatBlackPanda
Fascism
The merger of state and corperate powers
Far from an Austrian ideal.
You've really been brainwashed by the left haven't you.
Was FDR a Keynsian? Did WW2 Cut short the depression? HAHAHAHAHAH
or better yet Are you aware Lincoln wanted ALL the freed slave deported to Africa. And probally would have done it 2.
Have even read the road to serfdom?
Even Keynes toward the end of his career said we should rely more on the invisible hand.
Salvysahagun 6 months ago
I love to outsmart right-wingers... it causes their stupidity to burt and manifests itself inside a retarded comment, as shown above.
ThatBlackPanda 6 months ago
@ThatBlackPanda
"Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the merger of state and corporate power." -- Benito Mussolini
"I find myself more and more relying for a solution of our problems on the invisible hand which I tried to eject from economic thinking twenty years ago." - John Maynard Keynes
Salvysahagun 6 months ago
New Dealers never accepted the Keynesian argument for government spending as a vehicle for recovery. Most economists of the era, along with Henry Morgenthau of the Treasury Department, rejected Keynesian solutions and favored balanced budgets. - Leuchtenburg p. 171, 245-6; Herbert Stein, Presidential economics: The making of economic policy from Roosevelt to Reagan and beyond (1984)
Salvysahagun 6 months ago
@ThatBlackPanda
"Let us be brought to believe it is morally right, and, at the same time, favorable to, or, at least, not against, our interest, to transfer the African to his native clime, and we shall find a way to do it, however great the task may be. The children of Israel, to such numbers as to include four hundred thousand fighting men, went out of Egyptian bondage in a body."
~ Abraham Lincoln
Salvysahagun 6 months ago
@ThatBlackPanda
Fact - American Liberals hate facts.
While just about every other Political Ideal finds them necessary
bottom line
I Win
Salvysahagun 6 months ago
@ThatBlackPanda
Please actually read the works of FA Hayek
Your like most uninformed Americans.
They don't realize that the Legislative Branch should ALWAYS be more powerful than the Executive
Salvysahagun 6 months ago
@ThatBlackPanda
Every Austrian called the Recession and every major Economic Disaster from the Great Depression to the Collapse of Bretton Woods.
And Democrat and Republican a like always say MORE Spending More Government Power.
Taking advice from the very men who said "the Economy is Great and their will not be a crash"
pshh
Salvysahagun 6 months ago
TAX THE RICH>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
9puertorico 7 months ago
What he says about spending in a recession is hilarious. Maybe they should learn some economics and realize how government causes these problems. Of course they act like these ideas are just crap made up by Reagan, (who did not support smaller govt) relying on the viewer to be ignorant of the existence of the austrian school as well as the information they made very clear.
SecondAgeOfReason 7 months ago
I tried to listen honestly and closely to what you have to say here. I hear a lot of very passionate complaining and "finger pointing" but I have heard not one single solution regarding this Recession/Depression that President Obama has completely exacerbated by spending all of this borrowed money that WILL HAVE TO BE PAID BACK!. People understand that it takes more than pointing figures and assessing blame. It takes a clear direction and a plan.
pegclairezach 8 months ago
@pegclairezach Obama does have one. Bipartisan Fiscal Coalition, but then the Republicans rejected it and goes for the LOL Ryan Budget Plan.
You think the President alone have enough power to do what he wants to do in a far right Republican filled Senate? Even 1/3 of the dems are corrupted by the Corporations, so tell me what is your solution when the GOP filibusters everything?
Republicans don't want recovery, they want double dip recession so they might win the Presidency again.
Neosaigo 7 months ago
I don't know what you democrats want. Ronald Reagan was a great president. Don't try to change that because that's a fact and you can't change history. Bush was terrible and that too is true. You democrats talk like you'd want to be all by yourselves giving away money and destroying the budget...we need balance. We need different opinions and minds. I say you should be proud of your party but dont talk trash about the Republicans....you sound like comminists,please!
lthalial 9 months ago
@lthalial Yes we need different opinions and minds. Just not from the Republican side, their goal have been clear since Obama took the Presidency. Trash talking Republicans doesn't make you a communist, since people in the US don't even know what communism is, they just link it to liberals out of ignorance.
Trash talking about a party that have been doing trash politics is bad in what way? You still believe Republicans are the true patriots? HAH Even the military knows GOP are now trash.
Neosaigo 7 months ago
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@Neosaigo Yes, few Americans (specially republicans) know what communism is, or maybe they want to make everyone think liberals are communists even if they know that isn't true. I find it funny how they compare the two. I do know what it is so I find it wonderful that Dem. and Rep. have to argue every detail and almost always get to some kind of agreement somewhere in the middle. In my opinion that's beautiful. But comparing Reagan to Bush and pretending Democrats are always right is silly...
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lthalial 7 months ago
Cenk Uygur should say his name at the beginning and end of each talk so that folks get used to hearing his name, particularly his last name. It's a free way to desensitize folks to the name. Don't waste the opportunity.
lancethrustworthy 10 months ago
Jesus was a Socialist! And Reagan was a Corporatist!
deeppurple28 11 months ago
@grandmasterkonn "good time for people" how?
unfortunatebeam 11 months ago
ANybody who takes the Young Turks seriously is Pathetic. I'm not saying that I disagree with their position on Government involvment during recession, BUT, The way they turn it into a statement trying to claim that "Republicans are old". That's where the Young Turks are idiots.
BozoClownface 1 year ago
How does spending money get you out of a recession? Isn't debt the problem?
BJ219 1 year ago
It seems like there are those who are frozen in the 50's and would like to forget about the whole social revolution of the 60's and 70's! Consciousness is becoming more refined and our societal structure must adhere to it.
ArtsAlign 1 year ago
and under obama...expect the insults to continue
about how your a jew lap dog nation, zionest...
also the shit about how the U.S millitary
are a bunch of poofters...is the anti-zionest cyber lobby...
and they are counting on obama to be re-elected to continue there
message towards the American public...and further demoralize
an Un-united nation under the obama goverment.
pakreecekennedy 1 year ago
THE YOUNG COMMIES
readyxxi 1 year ago
Of course the Young Jerk and his band of merry leftist/Socialist/Marxist want change! They want socialil justice economic justice, free healthcare for all, they want to share the wealth for the evil business people, they want factory jobs for everyone, guarenteed income, guarenteed work, and total equality for all of the working class.
Wait a minute isn't that the exact same platform of Lenin, Mao, Hitler, Kim Il Sung, Che, and all the other Socialist mass murderers? Nice going Young Jerk!
TAMPADOC64 1 year ago
@TAMPADOC64 right and our current system of fake capitialism (code for, corporate tyranny) is going fast in the direction of the fake socialist countries, or is already there when you see the damage and death it is responsible for outside our little western bubble (not to mention the increasing damage and death it's responsible for even within)
unfortunatebeam 11 months ago
let me give you a short history lesson. the crash of 1921. no government intervention, gut taxes and spending. recovered in 18 months. the crash of 29 had huge government intervention by both FDR and Hoover . went on for over 15 years. gees which one works better
onepiecefan74 1 year ago
FDR was great for his era, but it's time to move on!
EvanoGMan 1 year ago
Reagan was a complete idiot.....guess he represents the right party then, stupid assholes!
kpgps 1 year ago
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Obama has been president for 2 years....u are so quick to blame him for unemployment..the huge debt....but let's not forgot it was in fact REPUBLICANS who got us into this damn mess in the first place. u had your 8 years and look what you did to our country. We are in debt because we are still paying for your war in iraq to find those "weapons of mass destruction" did you ever find them? lol It is because of republicans that our country is not progressing
simplyskyla 1 year ago
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Obama has been president for 2 years....u are so quick to blame him for unemployment..the huge debt....but let's not forgot it was in fact REPUBLICANS who got us into this damn mess in the first place. u had your 8 years and look what you did to our country. We are in debt because we are still paying for your war in iraq to find those "weapons of mass destruction" did you ever find them? lol It is because of republicans that our country is not progressing
simplyskyla 1 year ago
Democrats are too leftist and republicans too conservative. I think I'll go Libertarian.
kanmoreti 1 year ago
conservative its in the name, to conserve preserve the old way of america, although they can't seem to see America has changed
Adjei88 1 year ago
Yeah theres no bias here. no reason to listen here.
blacksmithe1 1 year ago
We need something new, different from Reagan, but not Obama. He has proven to be a disaster.
anthonym267 1 year ago
@anthonym267 Reagan was a great president.
keybladeblastcalibur 1 year ago
In California, Pelosi and Boxer are two i'm not worried about at all.
WilliamHCarney 1 year ago
The Tea Baggers (Republicans), are making me laugh more, and more. They are sfraid that Sestak will win in PA. That's because he will. Back room deals. Who gives a fuck. That's been going in local, state, and federal governments for decades. What else is new? They, the Baggers, realize they're momentum is losing ground. Especiall when dumb asses like Racist Rnad Rand, and idiot Sue Lowden says the dumb shit that they say.
WilliamHCarney 1 year ago
Also, belief keynesian economics (and it is a belief) isn't just a blind hope that everyone can have a free lunch.
Also, Jesus died for your sins and if you believe in him, when you die, you'll spend an eternity in paradise!
Hokibukisa 1 year ago
ignorant muslim terrorist.
floridazation 1 year ago
@TheYoungTurk Math isn't your strong suit is it.
Spending freeze doesn't mean stop spending, it means don't add anything to the budget, and this is a fundamentally sound concept, especially for a bankrupt nation like ours. "Because they aren't using their minds."
Heres me not using my mind: What do you do when china stops buying our worthless bonds? How do you fund irresponsible, wasteful, crony-capitalistic government programs then? Tax more? Print money? Share your wisdom!
Hokibukisa 1 year ago
@Hokibukisa First of all because of inflation spending freeze is in fact a cut. Secondly in order to survive in the long run most companies have to avoid bankruptcy and be in a position to expand during recovery. Assets won't be used if no one buys them! Crony capitalism is a problem but its not solved by shrinking government because congress takes their cut first and most money is for mandated programs look at the budget.
zxcvbnmjhgfdsa1 1 year ago
@zxcvbnmjhgfdsa1 Spending freeze is not shrinking government unfortunately, it just means oh hay we can't afford the crap we have right now, maybe we shouldn't spend even more than we did last year.
You are correct about the assets, assets wont be used if people don't buy them. PEOPLE. The government is not people. Suggesting that if the government does not spend your money for you that you will not spend it shows a complete lack of faith in the american people.
Hokibukisa 1 year ago
@Hokibukisa If wages are going up (hopefully at the rate of inflation) and the same money is put into departments, they have to fire people or provide less services. As inflation increases and economy grows the government will spend less as a percentage of GDP. People want deals but they also want the BEST deal. Look at the stock market it went down 50% before people felt it was at the bottom. Housing was the same but in the meantime allot of empty houses!
zxcvbnmjhgfdsa1 1 year ago
@zxcvbnmjhgfdsa1 Freeze government growth, hell SHRINK the government spending, and all of those "mandated programs" that WE CANN'T AFFORD ANYWAYS will just have to do with less funds, exist with no funding, or just be dissolved.
However this video is old and the healthcare bill has passed since then. An enormous spending increase! We couldn't pay our bills last year, we sure as hell wont be able to pay them in the future.
Hokibukisa 1 year ago
@Hokibukisa I agree that budget isin't remotly sustainable without large changes America will never have a surplus again. However I also think that if you lookat what government is actually doing compared to other first world countries it seems like very little. The reality is that government just needs to be as efficent as other countries rather than make cuts. US government spends more on health care per person than France and France covers all citizens!
zxcvbnmjhgfdsa1 1 year ago
@zxcvbnmjhgfdsa1 You're distracted with healthcare funding, that isn't even the big picture. The big picture is that we are broke with a government that is behaving like a teenager with his first credit card. We are currently being funded by china buying up lots of 30 year bonds, plus even china is going broke. When they realize that we have no plan to be able to pay them back, or they go broke, they'll stop buying our bonds.
Once china stops investing then we either print money,or raise taxes.
Hokibukisa 1 year ago
@Hokibukisa Government spends 8% of the nations GDP on health care it is the big picture. The deficits are large but so far the interest cost by themselves aren't alot. Other countries have larger debts like Italy and interest rates are low. Debt is a long term disadvantage but it doesin't mean US can only do IMF approved activities!
zxcvbnmjhgfdsa1 1 year ago
@ProudKoreanGuy Absolutely Right!
skeezysquirrel 1 year ago
Maybe a communist party or fascist party should emerge?
crazyozzyking 2 years ago 4
@crazyozzyking agreed authoritarian government is needed to stop US from being a lame duck Republicans have Katrina, Democrats have BP oil spill. If nobody wants either party in power why does everyone strategicly vote for them?
zxcvbnmjhgfdsa1 1 year ago
@crazyozzyking I say "YES WE CAN" to this! We could use some gulags and about 14.5 million starved to death here in the U.S.A like they did in the good old soviet union! PERESTROIKA!
TheReaganRevolution 5 months ago
Republicnas are conservative, the only reason their plans don't work anymore is the fact that the hippies have reached the "congressional age" of between 45 and 70, therefore putting them at the peak of political power. Two angry factions, the conserative right, and the communistic left are poised to fight it out until only one remains. It seems that both parties are becoming more aloof, losing touch with the american people as they begin to form the "Tea Party" party in protest of both sides.
FinalFantasySage8888 2 years ago
@FinalFantasySage8888 They lose touch with americans because being in touch and giving people what they want doesin't get them elected, money does. Now we have a president who got most of his money from ordinary individuals and congress who gets money from traditional sources. No wonder it's sooo exiting!
zxcvbnmjhgfdsa1 1 year ago
Absolutely correct diagnosis of the GOP. The strange truth now, is that no one is paying taxes anymore: The poor get "earned income tax credits" which give them back far more than they have withheld. The rich are lawfully paying no taxes on inherited money, investment earnings, or a whole host of creative compensation packages too complex to describe here. The middle class gets child exemptions and mortgage interest deductions that keep them even. Maybe a few single, high income earners pay
Stevorino123 2 years ago
@Stevorino123 It is the professional middle class that pays! The employed doctors with 6 figure salaries as well as other high earning proffessionals. Funny thing is the last true taxpayers vote democrat.
zxcvbnmjhgfdsa1 1 year ago
Isn't it GREAT that RepubliCONs are now irrelevant in Government?
mavrek47 2 years ago
"Trees cause more pollution than automobiles." - Ronald Reagan
"I don't worry about the deficit." - Ronald Reagan
"Facts are stupid things." - Ronald Reagan
"If you've seen one tree you've seen them all." - Ronald Reagan
"The best minds are not on government."
Not in Reagan's government, THAT'S for sure.
George W. Bush was exactly what Ronald Reagan would have been like if Reagan had had a Republican Congress to do his bidding like Bush did.
AtlasShruggery 2 years ago 30
@AtlasShruggery You're another Jon Stewert. He plucks out tiny excerpts. and bends the information. So, you take these quotes totally out of context.
BozoClownface 1 year ago
@AtlasShruggery Reagan was not as stupid as Bush. If Bush is a 9.7 on a 10 scale of stupidity, Reagan was only a 9.5.
Strangerinasland 5 months ago
LOL!!---Yea, that sounds like many republicans... "They're not using their minds!"
iamcora1 2 years ago
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Yea for absolute idiots with time on the air!
God I hate people like these morons.
ProudAmerican1775 2 years ago
i think that everything is wrong with that republicans. they called president obama a communist. and calling his plans for change socilism. but george w. bush have ran this country like Nazism. and the republicans need to worry more about there racism. the republicans shouldn't believe in ism's but believe in themselfs. i guess that is why they can't never get it ? because retartedism.
unelmitchell 2 years ago
hahaha very intelligent argument.
sliterturn1 2 years ago
There ARE economists out there, very bright ones, who say that we could've easily gotten out of the Depression in just 7 years, rather than over a decade. But Keynesians from the Hoover Administration and the New Dealers took over and misinterpreted the cause of the collapse as "too much greed on Wall St." and "excessive speculation", which is an oxymoron. Economic speculation is a type of COMPETITION in the market, not a cartel. The Pecora Commission was a huge joke, too.
whoo689 2 years ago
Keynesianism makes me sick, and what makes me wanna puke is people who still hold onto this dead, long-de bunked ideology just because they favor massive gov't spending. That's the ONLY reason! Look at David Brooks, for christ sake! He's not a conservative Republican. Sure, on some issues, he is, but he's a MODERATE overall. The neocons are notorious proponents of big government and the welfare state.
Whatever gov't spends money on, the private sector could do it much better, I assure you.
whoo689 2 years ago
@whoo "private sector could do it much better" then rape the workers untill the recession is back, then morons like you will keep saying that, and keep a vicous sercle.
symbolmk 2 years ago
True market economists like Milton Friedman wiped guys like Keynes's clocks. There is no way in hell that most economists in the US are Keynesians. That's bullshit. If anything, they just favor liberal policies BECAUSE they're Democrats, not because they have actual proof that most liberal economic policies work well. Paul Krugman is a GREAT example of this. He's more of a liberal pundit than an actual economist. He knows nothing about the market. I'm 22, and I know more than him.
whoo689 2 years ago
"No economist", Cenk? Well, now you're just spouting Obama talking points! I can name one GREAT economist who knew his stuff: Milton Friedman. John Maynard Keynes was a moron, and he was debunked about half a century ago by guys like Friedman and Henry Hazlitt. Here's some other smart anti-Keynesians: Ludwig von Mises, Carl Menger, Robert Higgs, F.A. Hayek and Mark Skousen, to name a few. And those are certainly NOT in the minority, I can assure you. Krugman's ilk are in the minority.
whoo689 2 years ago
Reading a Paul Krugman article is like reading "My Pet Goat" upside-down. I bet even BUSH could understand those.
Economists these days are more Keynesian in the realm of monetarism and central banking than anything else. They DO NOT think that in a recession cutting spending is "evil!!!" It's bs, too. Is this to say that our economy is so weak and fragile that it can't grow back on its own, that gov't needs to 'prime the pump' and make it dependent on tax dollars? Please
whoo689 2 years ago
I love economics, but I cannot find ONE interesting or deep-thinking article from a guy like Krugman that made me think "ohhh! He's onto something!" He recently wrote the dumbest article EVER. What was it about? Oh yeah, that we should CONTINUE massive deficits and perhaps even expand them just to keep the economy from collapsing.
WHAT??? Are you insane, Mr. Krugman? Does that mean we should also expand the Medicare-SS fiscal gap to $60 trillion? Get real, Paul. And leave Princeton.
whoo689 2 years ago
I'm not saying the free market is perfect, but Keynesians grossly underestimate its potential. By the Keynesians' logic, Japan should've overtaken the US over a decade ago in GDP and growth! Remember the 8 stimulus packages in the 90s? They went absolutely nowhere! The gov't redirected way too much money into ill-advised programs and kept it out of the free market to do its magic. And all this starting at a time when Japan had a huge financial crisis. Keynesianism held Japan back.
whoo689 2 years ago
To borrow from Rush: "Regean is dead. His policies may live on but we're in the process of doing something about those as well."
trajan74 2 years ago
Reagan is dead, the GOP needs to move on to survive. He was good for his time, be it has passed. GOP use their minds, what minds?
Duobitdezo 2 years ago
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I'll live in my Regan world. You can live in your North Korean world, you spoiled brat liberal. I'll bet your convinced we didn't land on the moon!
kensmdad 2 years ago
Why would liberals believe we didn't land on the moon? North Korean world, u don't know what it's like in North Korea. Comments like these is why I know I'm smarter than conervatives and liberals.
Duobitdezo 2 years ago
regan was the best president of the modern era. Top 3 ever
billyw32 2 years ago
"regan was the best president..."
Dang, if you worship him so much, shouldn't you spell his name correctly?
mistergarth 2 years ago 2
this is just socialism straight up what these people say.
michaelwuzthere 2 years ago
I wish. I get so mad with people like you, Stalin etc taking the name of Socialism in vain.
PhilJRose 2 years ago
this is just too biased and innacurate it's a joke. seriously, just about 85% of the time when he says "most people ..." it's a lie. like what he said about government not taking action, that's an absolute lie that no economist says that. most of them are saying that, actually. no where in the constitution is the government allowed to interfere in the business world.
michaelwuzthere 2 years ago
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You would think the RepubliCON Party would ask for a FEDERAL BAILOUT due to their holding NO true VALUE anymore, embarrassing down-sizing, & being TOTALLY unsuccessful when it comes to having a say in ANY matters which reach the House or Senate Floor. (LOL)
Flush Dimbaugh needs to get OFF the Oxy-Contin....it's obviously eaten away his entire brain!
President Obama was also right on John Boehner. He needs to do something about the obvious cheap face-tan color spray he uses daily.
R.I.P. GOP
mavrek47 2 years ago
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REAL RepubliCON STIMULUS:
~ CRAIG: A return foot-tapping under mens room stalls
~ LIMBAUGH: Blanket-free LIFE prescription for Oxy-Contin
~ W & SCARAH FAILIN: Each want 1% of Scare-Crow's Brain
~ COULTER: Get Adams Apple Removed
~ CHENEY: Keep Unilateral Contracts & Face Shootings Legal
~ NITT-WITT-MITT ROMNEY: Continue flip-flopping on ALL Issues
~ FOLEY: Return e-mail from teen boys
~ HAGGARD: A male hooker who won't kiss & tell
GOP GOAL: Continue to LOSE DOZENS more Senate & House Seats!
mavrek47 2 years ago 3
If you don't pay taxes at all you won't have roads, medicare, or social security. The country would crumble if we didn't have taxes.
game3525 2 years ago
I said we need to cut taxes, not get rid of them altogether. Everybody knows that.
And that is socialism. That's total socialism. Socialism includes spreading the wealth, having government regulate and open new buisnesses which will increase taxes. And if you look it up, you will realize that socialism has never worked before.
ILOVELIFE3113 2 years ago
Obama is giving tax cuts to the middle class, the rich still have the tax cuts from the Bush years that will run through 2011. And raising taxes is not socialism is actually what is fiscal conservatism, since it helps reduce the debt.
game3525 2 years ago
And Bush cut taxes when he was president. If you actually payed attention to politics, you would know that.
And raising taxes and spreading money around is socialism, and liberalism.
ILOVELIFE3113 2 years ago
Tax breaks for the wealthy mean less money for governmental agencies to do there jobs in regards to the other 95% of Americans. You do know that the rich are only 5% of the population, yet control 90% of the wealth. If you make the most money you will be higher taxes. The middle class is the backbone of society.
game3525 2 years ago
"You do know that the rich are only 5% of the population, yet control 90% of the wealth. If you make the most money you will be higher taxes."- That is such a lie. 90% of the wealth. That has never been proven before.
ILOVELIFE3113 2 years ago
It is true, look it up.
game3525 2 years ago
The money isn't been spread around, no one is getting a free handout. Raising taxes helps to balance the debt. You can not cut taxes and spend alot of money like the Bush years.
game3525 2 years ago
Oh, but it is going to be spread around under Obama's tax plans.
ILOVELIFE3113 2 years ago
And socialists would claim that "capitalism has never worked before" because of the higher rate of poverty, the tendancy for more extreme groups to arise and the periodic market crashes that wipe out so many people's life savings.
EyeLean5280 2 years ago
We have never been a socialist nation. Capitalist countries have always prevailed over socialist nations. That one can be proven.
ILOVELIFE3113 2 years ago
Bush cut taxes but increased spending by a huge amount. And then he tried to cover it by not including much of the military expenditures in his budgets.
There are great Republicans out there -both historically and today - who are smart, honest and worth admiring.
Bush is none of these and you would do well to find someone else to hold up as an example of "fiscal conservatism."
EyeLean5280 2 years ago
You won't find a fiscal conservative in any modern day Republican. The only difference between Republican and Democrats spending habits is that Democrats don't try to hide it and can actually pay it off. Debt is usually higher under a Republican then a Democrat.
game3525 2 years ago
Bush is not the greatest president ever, but my point is is that he does not deserve to be ranked number 37 out of 42. He deserves a better spot than FDR, who is number 3.
And my main point is that Bush doesn't deserve all the credit for keeping America stable, but democrats deserve absolutely none of the credit.
ILOVELIFE3113 2 years ago
FDR is much better President then George Bush, he helped lead us through the depression and WWII. George Bush only ray of sun was the few weeks after 9/11 after that was a disaster.
game3525 2 years ago
Umm...Canada, UK and the commonwealth countries are socialist. What do you mean it hasn't worked?
xitongzou 2 years ago 13
Canada and UK both have less stable econnomies than we do. Socialism is the wrong answer.
ILOVELIFE3113 2 years ago
If having a budget surplus means less stable then by all means...
xitongzou 2 years ago 2
Canada isn't nearly as bad off as we are as of now.
fireemblem1992 2 years ago 2
Canada is far worse off than we are right now. Our country has at least SOME jobs available.
ILOVELIFE3113 2 years ago
Well, Canada also has SOME jobs. I think you meant to say that Canada has a higher unemployment rate that the US, which is true.
However, when unemployed, Canadians have very generous benifits, almost 90% for a long period of time. They also can go back to Uni. without losing it. So, they don't suffer so much from it. Also, much less poverty in Canada.
stevekap8 2 years ago
And less pig-ignorant dunces like this Ilovelife character.
PhilJRose 2 years ago
Look at the list of the 10 happiest countries that came out a few weeks ago, Sweden,Canda Switzerland, Norway made the list, what do they all have in common?
stevekap8 2 years ago
That's just opinions. The USA is the greatest country to ever exist. If anyone has any doubts, just look at our history.
ILOVELIFE3113 2 years ago
What silly reasoning! To argue that the USA IS the greatest country, iit would never due to look at US HISTORY!
You see GREATEST is a comparative word. To compare, you have to look at others in the class, in this case, other countries.
Also, notice that IS is the prentent tense "to be" verb. It ref. to what is so, NOW. On the other hand, history, is, well, history! See the problem?
Having said that, the USA is a great, wonderful country. But so is Sweden. So is Candada.
stevekap8 2 years ago
The USA is a great country even without history. Throughout their history, they've been a great country.
Every single country in the world besides the Middle East wants to be an ally with us because they would not want to mess with us.
A lot of Canadians are just a bunch of whiny, socialist, border-hopping users who come into our country, work here, make significantly more money, and then go ack and sleep in Canada at night.
As for Sweeden, they are just Norway suckups.
ILOVELIFE3113 2 years ago
So the US is a great country because it can frighten everyone and only the Middle East (plus Cuba and other South American countries, African nations etc etc) have the guts to stand up to you? Great reasoning, moron. I love life indeed. You love racism, more like. You are a stereotypical US moron who has been ignored and allowed to stagnate intellectually by the Reagan/Bush/Shrub policies towards education.
PhilJRose 2 years ago
Where did you read that I am racist. LIBERAL ALERT; putting words in my mouth.
You are a moron who has no clue what makes a country great. We are the only country who has lasted without a monarch for as long as we've existed. We are the only country that has the right to speak freely of our leader, without being prosecuted and all the other countries in Europe and the rest of the world depend on us so much that they would fall flat if they didn't have our support.
ILOVELIFE3113 2 years ago
By the way, our education system was fine under Reagan and Bush. Our education system has always been great, and untill you prove me otherwise, you are a moron.
ILOVELIFE3113 2 years ago
Lmao, have you ever heard of No Child Left Behind?
game3525 2 years ago
Yeah, the idiotic socialist thing Bush signed. What about it?
ILOVELIFE3113 2 years ago
You don't have the right to talk about other people's countries that way. America is great, but it's not the greatest. Every country is great in its own special way.
HalfDeath13 2 years ago
I absolutely do have the right to because we are the greatest country to ever exist. Americans are so spoiled because we have all the protection, rights, and freedom that most of the world dreams of, and yet, we aren't the greatest? How aren't we?
ILOVELIFE3113 2 years ago
But how do you define 'the greatest'? Every country is great in it's own special way. We aren't the only country in the world to have rights and freedom. The US is great. But so is Japan, Britain, Turkey, and a handful of other nations.
HalfDeath13 2 years ago
I define greatest as a powerful, longlasting, and devoted country. We have the most devoted military that will fight for the country no matter what the risk is. We have technology that makes other countries become jealous. And we have more sights to see and more free choices than everywhere else in the world.
How do you define the greatest county?
ILOVELIFE3113 2 years ago
By your definition, one could say that North Korea is the second greatest country in the world because it has the second strongest military. Also by your definition, China and Egypt could be called the greatest countries because they have been around the longest. Iran could be called the greatest since it has the most devotion (to Islam and nuclear warfare). France, Briton, and Japan could also be called the greatest because they are amongst the most technologically advanced countries.
HalfDeath13 2 years ago
Personally, I would define the greatest country as the most peaceful and generous nation. A great country should have high standards of living, and make sure that all of its citizens have access to health care, education, housing, etc. It should be advanced and invest in science and technology. A great nation should also be a stable democracy without corrupt leadership. It should promote peace in the world and help those in poor nations.
HalfDeath13 2 years ago 3
I disagree on the fact that ALL citizens should have a high standard of living. Like the kids who smoke pot and inject themselves with drugs all day. They belong on the streets for being failures.
ILOVELIFE3113 2 years ago
No, not all citizens should have a high standard of living. But people who are willing to make something of themselves should. Many of those kids you mention were born into it and can be rehabilitated.
HalfDeath13 2 years ago
I was born into poverty and that influenced me not to be an idiot and do drugs all day. Like 1% of people without healthcare are actually fighting to be able to afford it. Anyone can afford healthcare if they don't spend their money on things they don't need.
ILOVELIFE3113 2 years ago
That's not true at all. There are literally millions of people in America who want healthcare but simply can't afford it. I recently heard a story of a woman who had a good job but had to quit because of tumor in her kidney. She had her tumor removed and her healthcare provided the money. Later, she developed a tumor in her other kidney. However, because she could no longer work after the operation, she longer had healthcare and couldn't afford her medical care.
HalfDeath13 2 years ago 3
yeah that doesnt create crime, are you 12 ?
starbucks3954 2 years ago
Fuck you. I have a lot of friends that do drugs and they are wonderful respectful smart people.
Squipplekillzbitches 2 years ago 2
Most kids who do drugs and inject themself, are children of poorer, drug addictive parents. Did they chose to "belong on the streets"?
It's a diffrence between choosing(18 y old) and being born.
petkol 2 years ago
lol, travel more
starbucks3954 2 years ago
@xitongzou wait you forgot greece. lol
floridazation 1 year ago
@xitongzou canada and uk certainly aren`t socialist, don`t make things up!
keybladeblastcalibur 1 year ago
@xitongzou
Having socialised healthcare as an option doesn't make a country socialist, in the uk i can still get private care if i want, i work for a private company.
We have more aspects of socialism in the UK than in the US, but to call it a socialist country is crazy.
GarethandSarah 1 year ago
@GarethandSarah nah it's not "crazy", that's a bit much, just simply inaccurate.
unfortunatebeam 11 months ago
@unfortunatebeam
wow, that was worth commenting.
really glad you gave some insight.
GarethandSarah 11 months ago
@xitongzou Yea ??? Socialism to What extent? And, how is Government intervention the same as full-fledged socialism. Just because governments pass laws, that doesn't make it socialist.
BozoClownface 1 year ago
@xitongzou haha they're not "socialist" governments that's for certain. however, they have borrowed what they found to be workable socialist ideas and integrated them with their democracies. US has of course done this too, just to a much lesser extent They're social democracies, not socialist. But there are no strict lines, no matter what certain others may want you to think.
unfortunatebeam 11 months ago
@xitongzou they're not socialist countries. However, their governments have borrowed what they found to be workable socialist ideas and integrated them into their democracies. The US has done this too of course, just to a much lesser extent due to the tradition of "commie" paranoia in that country.
unfortunatebeam 11 months ago
I happen to like the English system - it has history to it, poetry almost.
(and I'm no conservative)
EyeLean5280 2 years ago
Hoover did next to nothing '29 - '33 and by the end of his term, unemployment was over 30% (according to statistics given at the time, which took previously working women into account).
FDR comes in and expands government as far as the other two branches will let him and by 1939, unemployment was almost cut in half.
That's why we had Keynesian economics for so long. That's why W. Bush rushed to bail out the insurance companies - even using socialist policies where necessary.
EyeLean5280 2 years ago
The unemployment rate by 1941 (not 1945, sorry) had not changed by the end of FDR's second term. What brought us out of the depression was the war, which opened MILLIONS of jobs.
ILOVELIFE3113 2 years ago
You are close but not exactly correct - the unemployment rate declined throughout the New Deal, though not at nearly the rate its supporters had hoped.
You are correct however, about the New Deal failing to end the Depression before Pearl Harbor, but if the war had not occured it seems likely we would have been out of the Depression by 1945 anyway.
BTW, it was the unique set of circumstances *after* the war that brought high-level prosperity, not the war by itself.
EyeLean5280 2 years ago
Oops made a mistake, $634 billion to help pay for health care reform over the next ten years.
game3525 2 years ago
In all, healthcare isn't going to be free. It still going to cost some.
game3525 2 years ago
Yes. And not having it costs even more.
EyeLean5280 2 years ago
Having it by no means costs less than having it. 237 billion a year is a lot of money.
ILOVELIFE3113 2 years ago
Do you know how much money is lost each year due to the lack of health care coverage?
EyeLean5280 2 years ago
They don't know if anyone who has been sick or knows someone who has been sick in the hospital would know how bad american healthcare is.
game3525 2 years ago
I do. Absolutely none. Money is lost when the government pays for people who aren't insured.
ILOVELIFE3113 2 years ago
The government wouldn't be paying for people's healthcare, you will still have to pay. It just going to make healtcare more affordable, so you won't be slamed with bills when you are sick.
game3525 2 years ago
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ILOVELIFE3113 2 years ago
Hospitals will stay private, the Health insurance is what will change.
game3525 2 years ago
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So we should cut the pay of doctors who work their ass of to get their job. NOT HAPPENING
ILOVELIFE3113 2 years ago
He would lower premiums through a program that would reduce the exposure of employer health plans to costs of a catastrophic illness. Drug costs would be lowered by allowing patients to buy drugs from abroad and letting the government negotiate for lower prices."
game3525 2 years ago
Even Socialist don't think Obama is one of them.
game3525 2 years ago