For an introduction to the Billy Meier case, please see The Silent Revolution of Truth, available for absolute FREE viewing here titled ‘The Silent Revolution of Truth’. A few comments are made on the idea of War with Iran in the video, so it’s very “ON TOPIC” for the times we are in NOW - see it ABSOLUTELY FREE at THEYFLY dot com
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Anyone who carefully studies the different SIDES of the NEWS about the Russia Georgia August 8 2008 WAR can read carefully and thoughtfully pages 276-277 (excerpted and posted on Michael Horn's excellent THEYFLY site under archived headlines 2008) for a rather keen and uncanny description and PREDICTION of what happened, published first in 2001 and 2004, as I read it my first time while in Tbilisi Georgia in 2006 in the fascinating book 'And Still They Fly' by Guido Moosbrugger.
I'm not sure why Michael Horn keeps taking "The Silent Revolution of truth" down on youtube. For God sakes man, Make it free so that everyone has a chance to see it. It's one of the best ufo docs out there and I would buy the DVD for the school library and the public library. Michael Horn,buddy, you need some sense to be talked into your head, you'll make more money if this DVD is made available for free. Stop hoarding this valuable knowledge!
I don't KNOW about any prophecies and i do not think ill find someone that really knows.. in youtube but thats not the point what the point is that we need to work as a race and find our spiritual sellf and we don't yet do that.We ask and wonder about things way off our current capabilities rejecting old masters or finding new ones,i read about ppl who found the truth in a blog or research......we are like a child asking mom about when ill be 20 yrs.old and we have today to meet... young..hasty.
I wish this dvd could become free to the public. The only people who are gonna pay for it are people who already believe. To the rest of the critics and sceptics which are constantly increasing due to all of the HOAX videos out there, there is no reason for them to think twice.
@reet12337 Michael Horn has done an incredible amount of work, any film producer, professional writer, speaker, and promoter knows this, and he's spent his OWN money to do so. This is what I understand from listening to his interviews. Even Meier himself was instructed in the contact notes, if I remember correctly, to charge something, as we ALL need to EAT and a fair wage should be paid for work. Even scribes earn a wage. These people are NOT wealthy. They do other work for income, or labor.
Hi everyone, just wanted to say that these ships are real and we're surrounded by life everywhere in the galaxy and universe. BUT, most people get on with their lives, and rightly so, and if nothing gets in the way of that then why should they bother looking into ufo's. If it don't change everyday life then few will bother with it. I know this from university days when I showed the "Mexican ufo wave" films. Only about 10 people came to watch, and most of them didn't really care. Sad but true.
why will this help anyone? his material has been available for years. why should families "pool money" to buy a dvd? look. multiple countries have released their UFO data, and guess what? no one cares. Its out there its real, there are pictures, videos and books, but still the same stupid human mentality dominates.
There is so much material, and things to think about, perceptions challenged, and information that it has helped me, and I have heard from others who have appreciated this material and information also. Thanks for the comment, & sharing your opinion. If we trust the outlook given from some sources, it could be a very long time before real and positive change occurs in 'human mentality', however, we should aspire to hope, & the light of truth, IMHO. I personally think it happens now and then.
I want to mention another important point: According to the C-Notes, I understand our genetics, the D.N.A. was altered in many human beings to: 1. Be more aggressive and or warlike 2. to be with disease &or degenerate ie. to live only to 120 years of age, something like this, we have to evolve and fix this D.N.A. or genetic alteration, etc. With this kind of key, not only would our mentality change perhaps, but literally our "being" back to the way it allegedly was before the dna alteration.
This DNA manipulation was done by the Creator Overlords the counter-parts of the Plejarens who split up over 7 billion years ago. The C.O. could not defend themselves because they removed the aggression genes in order to leapfrog the spiritual evolution process, thus created warrior-like humans to defend them. This premature ageing is techincally considered "suicidual" a delibrate Cause to Effectively eliminate these warriors and prevent them from becoming "aware" through shorten life cycles!
If you read & study the Spiritual teachings, the prophetic and predictive data, the contact notes, & really 'think' and contemplate the spiritual teachings, such as in Contact 10 and 11, for example, alone, this will give you much more food for thought than questioning other 'proofs' validity or invalidity. Certainly, the documentary does a great job in presenting much material, but there is so very much more to digest and contemplate. I believe it's well worth the time to search more deeply.
ok. I just watched this doc. Iknow there is a lot of proof to suggest this is all real. Here is the problem. NO SMOKING GUN!
Why not film him discharging the laser gun. It looked ridiculous. And the so called ET woman holding it. They cut out the face. WHY? Because she could be linked to billy? or recognized. I want to believe him but i think he has the responsibility to provide what could have been even better proof.
Hi Rengya through searching you will find your answers a lot of info there I also searches it till I find read and understand everything. in fact it shoul be difficult for me since I was a christian believer but I quit when I read talmudjmmanuel(dot)com, tjresearch(dot)com
As Michael Horn has said "WATCH OUT FOR THAT TREE"... meanwhile your missing THE FOREST... Example? While I was in TBILISI GEORGIA I read "And They Still Fly", got the book by mail while I was there in 2006. See August 8, 2008 '8' crop circle? 08 08 08 - 888 a number in the Henoch Prophecies - now READ pages 276-277 of 'And They Still Fly' archived in excerpt at "TheyFly" (Michael Horn's site). If you have read many sides of the real news concerning that... you'd have a SERIOUS 'clue'.
Meanwhile, we have an incredible amount of scientific, spiritual, prophetic, & predictive data given to us, as evidenced from data & calculations gleaned from Billy Meier's Contact case. Semjase's "The Spiritual Teachings" alone are PRICELESS. And who here conjectures that's just a hoax? How many have taken the precious time to DIGEST & FULLY contemplate the material! & that is rare few, unfortunately. Otherwise, the suggestion of being more original is an oxymoron of stupendous porportions!
I came across pages 276 & 277 of "And Still They Fly" by Guido Moosbrugger (Steelmark, 2nd Edition copyright 2004) of which a 2001 ed. exists. Interesting!!! The excerpt is posted on Michael Horn's 'TheyFly' site now. South Ossettia is 888 miles from Jerusalem. 888 is a number of days mentioned in the Henoch Prophecies. I understand this attack in Georgia started on 08/08/08. A crop circle of a figure '8' on 08/08/08 in Wiltshire England.Saalome.
It's great to hear other's are taking time to examine the material, and doing the research. I myself watched the DVD again last night - it's incredibly helpful to hear about dreams, and how they can teach us, as well as how in a so called "modern world", it can still be so problematic to be an independent thinker for some people. It's taken me a few years to contemplate and study this material, just some of the material. There's a lot to consider in the teachings of the spirit.
I've read the Talmud Jmmanuel, and while in Tbilisi Georgia in 2006 "And They Still Fly", which prediction later, in the book on pages 276-277, began to appear relevant August 8, 2008. There are many videos on these topics on the net freely available, as well as by Wendelle C. Stevens, Edward T. Martin, Dr. Dietmar Rothe, Randolph Winters, etc. Michael Horn does as super great job in this documentary of presenting evidence and the case in "The Silent Revolution Of Truth" DVD
I don't feel like arguing about this anymore, i'm not a specialist on which storyes are hoaxes and which might be true, and even if I was, none of you would understand or listen to me in the first place. But my personal opinion is that Billy Meyer is hoaxing it, I believed in this story until I saw that Billys video was fake. I'm not asking you to be on my side, I don't really care. You belive in it, I don't.
thats fair enough - everyone is entitled to their opinion - however the video & films do in fact hold up - they are just WAY too strong ultimately - especially in one section of one film - where there is a ufo dipping beyond a distant hill/horizon - not easy to accomplish this kind of hoaxing feat with just a small model!!! once again there are a lot of nutjobs in the ufology field - but rest assured....not Billy Meier.
I think that not only Billy Meyer is hoaxing it, but a large group of people. People that say that they have investigated Billy Meyers case, I think they are hoaxing it too. Just hear me out. You know the shows about god at night or in the morning on tv they show them, where people fall uncontious at the touch of hand, and people talk about unbelievable things. Well, I think it is a big act not only by the perfomer, but the whole show is set up for it. You know what I'm talking bout?
No - its just too convoluted - very much speculation with not a SHRED to back it up with - also lets not forget about the eye witness factor - over a hundred simple ordinary folk with highly bizarre paranormal testimonies that serve overallto back up or support the entire Meier story as it is presented - think about - ordinary salt of the earth credible types as eye witness with little or no motivation for lying - possibly the hardest thing to fake in real terms.
Yes, but how do you know that what you are saying is true. What if the people that tell the story are also lying about eye witnesses, what if there are no eye witness, whats if it only a few actors? Look, I'm not saying that anybody is lying, but I'm saying that they might be lying, it's just so easy to do, well, actually, I don't think I could pull of such a big lye, I think you need a talent for it, got to be born with it. I don't believe it, but I might be wrong.
Zee, I think you need to do more research, and maybe watch the video from 1978 where they tested the pictures, video, metals, sound, and even gave Billy a lie detector text, and everything passed. So tell me your proof that everything if fake, because people(experts) have said the stuff is real. So do your damn research.
Zee96969696 You are of many people out there who merely dismiss this case too quickly. Why don`t you get the DVD or borrow it and view it. Read the material; Thoroughly before being so quick to dis it. PLEASE.
Now there was apparently some team investigating this case, and they said that they investigated those videos very closely and there is no way those videos could be fake. Now I don't think I'm going to believe any more fary tales told by some low life people. If there are ufos, then I'll hear it in the news, i'm pretty shure, because that would be big news. And there are news of ufo's, but I haven't seen any news where they say it is confermed that ufo's have visited earth.
lol, English is my second language, yeah, I know I got alot of spelling mistakes. I was bourne in Russia, and moved to Australia at age of 12. Hey, did you hear of the story where a guy killed 2 big grey aliens, and those aliens are living right now deep underground, and they are controlling our governments, and soon there will be a new world order, and aliens are gona take over the earth? Find that story on utube, they say that they have hard evidence to back up theyr story.
his name is Phil Schnieder, type it on youtube, then listen to him closely, he has evidence like rocks from another world, photos, you name it, he's got it. But, I thought Billy Meyer sayd that earth is not in danger from aliens, and there is no one else on earth who is being contacted. But Phil Schnieder says, that there are 11 different spiecies of alien visit earth all the time. Who is telling the truth if any of them?
The Plejaren explain that there are, and have been, many who have had a kind of contact with the Plejaren. But, mostly these people have simply viewed their craft. The ones who have had personal contact have had contact in the form of telepathic impulses and mostly fear to go public. The Plejaren tell us that there are some real contacts taking place with Earth Humans and extraterrestrials other than that with Meier, but they are of a very different essence and are very limited. - (cont'd...)
These include occasional examination contacts by scientific expeditions who mean no harm, and a very occasional kidnapping by others who are barbaric. But this is nothing on the scale of the hysteria often generated . Mostly visitors simply come and go and perhaps observe or collect plant and mineral and other samples for their scientific examinations.
So when they say Billy is the only one it has to be understood to mean the only one with face to face, official, on-going contact, involving a huge amount of note-taking (contact notes) in the context of verall mission itself.
Yes, I know that, this is Billy Meyers story, but Phill Schnieders story is different. And Phill Schnieder has also evidence as good as Billys, maybe even better. Do you get what I'm saying, there are a number of different people who has an alien story, and these storys are different. Do you understand what I am saying, they all say that they have very good evidence to back it up, evidence as good as Billy Meyers, if not better. You probably still not getting it, lol
yeah thats fine i hear ya - just wanted to first clear up - the issue of billy supposedly being the only contactee - that gets thrown around a lot on the net - but is not really the case - figured it was important to clarify that first
anyway re: Phil Schneider - yes have seen all of the vids some time ago - and his testimony is for sure compelling - however didn't comment as not in full authority to say exactly what is going on here in this instance - there are several possibilities - just one is that he has had 'some' experiences but that he is drawing perhaps some very erroneous and misleading conclusions - one has to be very careful here..lots of folks making wild claims - lots of which is just bogus! - eg alex collier!
But how, if they are telling two different storys, then how can one of them support the other. If Phil says Billy is for real, that means that Phil is lying, you get what I'm saying? Phil says that we are all under attack right now from big 7 foot grey aliens, those aliens are slowly taking over our governments, and they abdoct lots of people and eat peoples scins, and soon, we will al be inslaved. Billy is saying, we are not in danger of other aliens.
most probably not lying - just very deluded! - again like alex collier - so many nutjobs - have the feeling that a certain percentage of schneider's brain falls into the nutjob category - also what must be known is that believe it or not there are in fact - false flag abductions being carried out by ufos of terrestrial origin- ie black ops -
they are doing extremely advanced & scurrilous things - anyway definitly the greys are not slowly taking over govs. they dont care about us that much!
I've read the Talmud Jmmanuel, and while in Tbilisi Georgia in 2006 "And They Still Fly", which prediction later,in the book on pages 276-277, began to appear relevant August 8, 2008. There are many videos on these topics on the net freely available - by Wendelle C. Stevens, Edward T. Martin, Dr. Dietmar Rothe, Randolph Winters, etc. Michael Horn does as super great job in this documentary of presenting evidence and the case in "The Silent Revolution Of Truth" DVD. Teachings of Spirit are deep.
I am pretty sure some of the stuff Phil said is true, but some of it isn't true. Billy is telling the truth. Only someone who is stupid would think he is lying, because the guy has pictures of the UFO's from 1964. There is no way someone can fake the picture in 1964. There was no computers back in 1964, and there is no way it could be a model, because it is to far away.
in any case - even leaving out the issue of the cuts/splices (as damning as you think that might be) - bottom line is that this footage is still simply too good anyway - ie ufo with unbelievably good contours, light levels, stunning near impossible to arrive at AERIAL PERSPECTIVE - and that also hovers/pulses similar to countless other highly credible ufos film/vid recordings - and also in a way that correlates with 'hutchinson effect' if you will.the cuts issue - NOT enough to trash the case.
The cuts and splices were made while the original movie film was out of Meier's possession, loaned out to the TV station in Munich. After the reel had been returned it was learned that only a copy of the original was on it. During the process of making a copy, any jumps in the film's position initiated at splice points naturally carry over onto the film copy. Thus, the telltale jumps indicative of cutting and splicing show up on the later video copies of the film copy....
Col. Wendelle C. Stevens, USAF Ret., spent 8 years investigating the case, & after believing it authentic? Is that why Lee & Brit Elders, professionals, spent years investigating the case & felt it should be shared? The alleged prophetic accuracy of copyrighted material years before events later occured as Meier's described in advance? Spiritual Teachings- Universal ONENESS, Eternal Evolution of SPIRIT, Self-RESPONSIBILITY, Unconditional & abiding LOVE, True & real BALANCE, TRUTH, EQUALITY?
120 eye witnesses, so far irreproduceable audio, metal samples, photographic proofs, prophetic accuracy on events published and copyrighted years before coming true - all that hoaxed? It's obvious when people who comment here haven't studied the case, Wendelle C. Steven's videos and presentations of his investigation, Lee & Brit Elders, & all the material available. The book "And They Still Fly" is an excellent source of study on this critically important case. Michael Horn's site also.
Yes, I have been studying the Billy Meier case for a few months as I hadn't heard of it before. I have seen Randolph Winters and gwendelle stevens interviews on youtube which seem very persuasive. There is definately more evidence to proof existance and truth than there is to prove fraud or hoax. The only thing that makes me think 'hoax' is the wedding cake picture of the craft, and the supposedly pleiadian weapon which looks like its been put together with 70's household domestics.
I watched all sides of news on Georgia last few days, also reading many sources. Then I came across pages 276 & 277 of "And Still They Fly" by Guido Moosbrugger (Steelmark, 2nd Edition copyright 2004) of which a 2001 ed. exists. Interesting!!! I read this book while living in Tbilisi for one year.
The discussion has turned into something remniscent of something mentioned in the Talmud of Jmmanuel, Chapter 27, specifically and particularly verse 32. Interesting! Has nothing changed in over 2,000 years? ;)
Did anyone see the Randolph Winter's presentation on Youtube of tape 15B 3 or 4 and mention of "WEATHER" ie. the Billy Meier contact notes regarding that topic?
hey tigr - well done for voicing your well reasoned and highly astute considerations on the Meier Case and in particular on the extremly inspirational must see new DVD...'The Silent Revolution of Truth' - keep up the good work! Saalome gam naan ben uurda, gan njjber asaala hesporoona! Peace be on Earth, and among all beings!
mgilbo you were in Billy's community? As I understand after all the dramas and screw ups driving the Pleiadians away through their ego and political agendas they were a diminished force? Do they still idolise and worship him or have they evolved spiritually?
stargate669, where did you hear that from? If you have ever started a business or managed people on the job, whenever you mix differing personalities together you always will get certain squabbles. That was years ago and there haven't been issues like that for years as per the group and others that go there. There is no worshiping by the way, they tell everyone to use your own reason to come to your OWN conclusions. Its obvious you haven't looked into billy lately considering your questions.
no worshipping?...`certain squabbles'!! c'mon my friend be honest. In the end it doesn't matter what I think but what happened. What happened was so bad, so egotistical, so `human' and such an utter failure that the Pleiadians/Plejorians left in disgust. You failed the planet and billions of people through your own selfish desires. What an opportunity you had to change humanity and you threw it away. The Meiers community is known through the world as the failed community through ego.
Stargate669, who are to tell anyone they failed? Have you gone to Switzerland? Have you visited and spent time with the people there who work full time at their jobs, raise their families and then work for FREE at Figu all night? You are a fool with an agenda and just like all the other UFO Expert wanna bee's that just want to make a buck somewhere. Meier has been very successful in spreading his message to all countries around the world and unfortunately for you, it will continue.
my friend I doubt what you say from your response to me. The only thing I want to be an expert on his myself as that is the only way to evolve and grow. The original idea of the Meiers community was to do just this. But instead with sexual struggles, jealousy, power wranglings etc you became the very institution you were set up to bring down! What you call `billy's material' represents this and that is why there is so much confusion, mocking and rejection of the meiers message.
Stargate669, your tone is funny to me. You tend to think that just because these people get to work with Billy and interpret the material that they are on some higher plane than all other humans. They are just like everyone else in the world. They have fears, ego's, desires, insecurities and more and if you think the Plejarens are going to punish them because they are like every other human on this low level planet, you are nuts. Even the Plejaren are not perfect. Get over it pal, move on.
Stargate669, I don't mean to be rude but please stop talking about the Meier case until you get a clue. It is clear by reading your posts you simply have no clue about the subject and not only that but you are trying to spread lies about the Billy and FIGU.
How would you know? It's quite ridiculous to believe everything that somebody says without question. See my comment above? "two thumbs down" and no rebuttal, that just shows how ignorant people are, they just wanna hear airy fairy lies, and live in ignorance, rather than keep that head above the water and move for themselves.
Constavlos - You've read the Talmud Jmmanuel? You've read Contact Notes 10 and 11? You abhor the Spirit, and Creation? I am suspecting that you have not studied the case, and note that Ret. Lt. Col. Wendelle Stevens USAF did for 8 years, and concluded that THIS case is NO HOAX. And about "reptilians" - how would you know ;)
Condemnation without investigation is the height of ignorance. Albert Einstein
But once Billy Meier's aliens said they lied about nearly everything they taught Billy, and said that original contact notes needed to be held back, that's when I got suspicious. Looks like a swhich happened from the real Pleiadians, over to reptilins, of course... I could be worng, but I don't trust beings that are lairs (self-professed or otherwise).
constavlos no: watch the youtube videos of randolph winter. Understand where there is truth and potential change and great advancement for humanity there you will find the most dis/misinformation. Sadly, what happened with Meiers was ego, sexual and selfish focus in the community. This drove the Pleiadians away. He screwed up and has to live with that. However, forget Meiers focus instead on informing and developing yourself. Change for the world starts within you.
Lol... Stargate669 forgot to take his medicine today. He goes around spreading lies about Billy on all his video's with NO evidence to back it up. The plejaren's left this planet because that portion of their mission was over, NOT because of the group. Stargate669 needs to get a life and realize that Billy's message over the last 50 years has only grown and has been prophecised to grow in the future even more. Get used to it stargate, no matter what you do, you have already lost.
My friend if anyone has agendas it is you! It is a well known fact the Meier community drove away the Pleiadians/Plejorans. I know the community lives within it's own politics and would never acknowledge this. That is your karma to work out. You did have a great opportunity to develop something amazingly special but threw it all away and failed us all. What you do today is invoke all the hierarchical, worship, more than less than things that your whole purpose was to evolve from.
I think that you right about the part were you said we have to learn ourselfs but I feel that we have to have like a mental christian stance we have to hold while doing it in order not to trip and get caught up in the current moments of confusion...and that we need to increase the level of understanding the consequences without disturbing the peace.
You can stand tall after you trip...
If you dont understand put it on the shelf for later bro.
Dear tigr7170, thank you so much for sharing your important and clever comments of the new film of Mr. Michael Horn and Billy Meier...The Silent Revolution Of Truth - The Most Important Case in the Human History on Earth!
Warmest Greetings,
Javier V. Maldonado
Alliance for Responsible Humankind on Earth and Universes
Dear tigr7170, thank you so much for sharing your important and clever comments of the new film of Mr. Michael Horn and Billy Meier...The Silent Revolution Of Truth - The Most Important Case in the Human History on Earth!
Warmest Greetings,
Javier V. Maldonado
Alliance for Responsible Humankind on Earth and Universes
"When your wisdom, truth, and spiritual knowledge increase -- when universal love guides your life -- when your life is a blessing for yourself and for others -- then know that your understanding of the Truth has come to fruition. Then you will know that you and Creation are one, now and forever."
7 main focuses of Plejaren Spirituality:
Universal ONENESS, Eternal Evolution of SPIRIT, Self-RESPONSIBILITY, Unconditional & abiding LOVE, True & real BALANCE, TRUTH,
For an introduction to the Billy Meier case, please see The Silent Revolution of Truth, available for absolute FREE viewing here titled ‘The Silent Revolution of Truth’. A few comments are made on the idea of War with Iran in the video, so it’s very “ON TOPIC” for the times we are in NOW - see it ABSOLUTELY FREE at THEYFLY dot com
tigr7170 2 months ago
Google michael horn show for more info. Recently I read sfaths explaination on theyfly.com and i was truely amazed by the conversation
johnydubz 1 year ago
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Anyone who carefully studies the different SIDES of the NEWS about the Russia Georgia August 8 2008 WAR can read carefully and thoughtfully pages 276-277 (excerpted and posted on Michael Horn's excellent THEYFLY site under archived headlines 2008) for a rather keen and uncanny description and PREDICTION of what happened, published first in 2001 and 2004, as I read it my first time while in Tbilisi Georgia in 2006 in the fascinating book 'And Still They Fly' by Guido Moosbrugger.
tigr7170 1 year ago
seemed like a fake and still is my mind
electronicmedium 1 year ago 4
I'm not sure why Michael Horn keeps taking "The Silent Revolution of truth" down on youtube. For God sakes man, Make it free so that everyone has a chance to see it. It's one of the best ufo docs out there and I would buy the DVD for the school library and the public library. Michael Horn,buddy, you need some sense to be talked into your head, you'll make more money if this DVD is made available for free. Stop hoarding this valuable knowledge!
jamesbrownintown 1 year ago
I don't KNOW about any prophecies and i do not think ill find someone that really knows.. in youtube but thats not the point what the point is that we need to work as a race and find our spiritual sellf and we don't yet do that.We ask and wonder about things way off our current capabilities rejecting old masters or finding new ones,i read about ppl who found the truth in a blog or research......we are like a child asking mom about when ill be 20 yrs.old and we have today to meet... young..hasty.
SA3LLARX 1 year ago
I wish this dvd could become free to the public. The only people who are gonna pay for it are people who already believe. To the rest of the critics and sceptics which are constantly increasing due to all of the HOAX videos out there, there is no reason for them to think twice.
travef9 1 year ago 3
Michael Horn has a digital downloadable version at his excellent THEYFLY website. it's a VERY good idea to donate the DVD to a local library.
tigr7170 1 year ago
@tigr7170 Michael Horn is the biggest dick ever. Who takes money for valuable knowledge as this.
reet12337 1 year ago
@reet12337 Michael Horn has done an incredible amount of work, any film producer, professional writer, speaker, and promoter knows this, and he's spent his OWN money to do so. This is what I understand from listening to his interviews. Even Meier himself was instructed in the contact notes, if I remember correctly, to charge something, as we ALL need to EAT and a fair wage should be paid for work. Even scribes earn a wage. These people are NOT wealthy. They do other work for income, or labor.
tigr7170 1 year ago
@travef9
It will inevitably spread itself through the web.
Maybe they don't want it to spread too fast, mayebe they want to "shock" people slowly rather than all at once.
There are mulitple reason as to why this is not offered for free.
phrygianlydian 1 year ago
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JavierVMaldonado 2 years ago
see my comment on RT Russia Today vid report titled Mysterious circles in Russia's South. Enjoy, I left there June 28 2009 to U.S.A.
tigr7170 2 years ago
Hi everyone, just wanted to say that these ships are real and we're surrounded by life everywhere in the galaxy and universe. BUT, most people get on with their lives, and rightly so, and if nothing gets in the way of that then why should they bother looking into ufo's. If it don't change everyday life then few will bother with it. I know this from university days when I showed the "Mexican ufo wave" films. Only about 10 people came to watch, and most of them didn't really care. Sad but true.
Mrmorlam1 2 years ago
why will this help anyone? his material has been available for years. why should families "pool money" to buy a dvd? look. multiple countries have released their UFO data, and guess what? no one cares. Its out there its real, there are pictures, videos and books, but still the same stupid human mentality dominates.
Fpuke 2 years ago
There is so much material, and things to think about, perceptions challenged, and information that it has helped me, and I have heard from others who have appreciated this material and information also. Thanks for the comment, & sharing your opinion. If we trust the outlook given from some sources, it could be a very long time before real and positive change occurs in 'human mentality', however, we should aspire to hope, & the light of truth, IMHO. I personally think it happens now and then.
tigr7170 2 years ago
I want to mention another important point: According to the C-Notes, I understand our genetics, the D.N.A. was altered in many human beings to: 1. Be more aggressive and or warlike 2. to be with disease &or degenerate ie. to live only to 120 years of age, something like this, we have to evolve and fix this D.N.A. or genetic alteration, etc. With this kind of key, not only would our mentality change perhaps, but literally our "being" back to the way it allegedly was before the dna alteration.
tigr7170 2 years ago
This DNA manipulation was done by the Creator Overlords the counter-parts of the Plejarens who split up over 7 billion years ago. The C.O. could not defend themselves because they removed the aggression genes in order to leapfrog the spiritual evolution process, thus created warrior-like humans to defend them. This premature ageing is techincally considered "suicidual" a delibrate Cause to Effectively eliminate these warriors and prevent them from becoming "aware" through shorten life cycles!
Barbarian216 2 years ago
@Barbarian216 Where did you learn this from?
jamesbrownintown 1 year ago
If you read & study the Spiritual teachings, the prophetic and predictive data, the contact notes, & really 'think' and contemplate the spiritual teachings, such as in Contact 10 and 11, for example, alone, this will give you much more food for thought than questioning other 'proofs' validity or invalidity. Certainly, the documentary does a great job in presenting much material, but there is so very much more to digest and contemplate. I believe it's well worth the time to search more deeply.
tigr7170 2 years ago
ok. I just watched this doc. Iknow there is a lot of proof to suggest this is all real. Here is the problem. NO SMOKING GUN!
Why not film him discharging the laser gun. It looked ridiculous. And the so called ET woman holding it. They cut out the face. WHY? Because she could be linked to billy? or recognized. I want to believe him but i think he has the responsibility to provide what could have been even better proof.
rengya 2 years ago
this is true but youve gotta realise if this is all true he probably couldnt just do what he wants its probably up 2 them
DirtySheetz 2 years ago
Hi Rengya through searching you will find your answers a lot of info there I also searches it till I find read and understand everything. in fact it shoul be difficult for me since I was a christian believer but I quit when I read talmudjmmanuel(dot)com, tjresearch(dot)com
cityofmu 2 years ago
well hmm
rengya 2 years ago
Two thumbs way up, from Terra to Erra.
Thanks for your video post.
Salomee!
spirittruth76 3 years ago
Thanks for commenting Spirittruth76 - glad you enjoyed the post.
tigr7170 3 years ago
As Michael Horn has said "WATCH OUT FOR THAT TREE"... meanwhile your missing THE FOREST... Example? While I was in TBILISI GEORGIA I read "And They Still Fly", got the book by mail while I was there in 2006. See August 8, 2008 '8' crop circle? 08 08 08 - 888 a number in the Henoch Prophecies - now READ pages 276-277 of 'And They Still Fly' archived in excerpt at "TheyFly" (Michael Horn's site). If you have read many sides of the real news concerning that... you'd have a SERIOUS 'clue'.
tigr7170 3 years ago
My impression is they saw all three films of Terminator...THis is all junk..sorry need to try again and try to be original
march101952 3 years ago
Meanwhile, we have an incredible amount of scientific, spiritual, prophetic, & predictive data given to us, as evidenced from data & calculations gleaned from Billy Meier's Contact case. Semjase's "The Spiritual Teachings" alone are PRICELESS. And who here conjectures that's just a hoax? How many have taken the precious time to DIGEST & FULLY contemplate the material! & that is rare few, unfortunately. Otherwise, the suggestion of being more original is an oxymoron of stupendous porportions!
tigr7170 3 years ago
tigr7170 3 years ago
It's great to hear other's are taking time to examine the material, and doing the research. I myself watched the DVD again last night - it's incredibly helpful to hear about dreams, and how they can teach us, as well as how in a so called "modern world", it can still be so problematic to be an independent thinker for some people. It's taken me a few years to contemplate and study this material, just some of the material. There's a lot to consider in the teachings of the spirit.
tigr7170 3 years ago
I also watched the film, good discussion.
HuddyImLicht 3 years ago
I've read the Talmud Jmmanuel, and while in Tbilisi Georgia in 2006 "And They Still Fly", which prediction later, in the book on pages 276-277, began to appear relevant August 8, 2008. There are many videos on these topics on the net freely available, as well as by Wendelle C. Stevens, Edward T. Martin, Dr. Dietmar Rothe, Randolph Winters, etc. Michael Horn does as super great job in this documentary of presenting evidence and the case in "The Silent Revolution Of Truth" DVD
tigr7170 3 years ago
I don't feel like arguing about this anymore, i'm not a specialist on which storyes are hoaxes and which might be true, and even if I was, none of you would understand or listen to me in the first place. But my personal opinion is that Billy Meyer is hoaxing it, I believed in this story until I saw that Billys video was fake. I'm not asking you to be on my side, I don't really care. You belive in it, I don't.
Zee96969696 3 years ago
thats fair enough - everyone is entitled to their opinion - however the video & films do in fact hold up - they are just WAY too strong ultimately - especially in one section of one film - where there is a ufo dipping beyond a distant hill/horizon - not easy to accomplish this kind of hoaxing feat with just a small model!!! once again there are a lot of nutjobs in the ufology field - but rest assured....not Billy Meier.
batdancer 3 years ago
I think that not only Billy Meyer is hoaxing it, but a large group of people. People that say that they have investigated Billy Meyers case, I think they are hoaxing it too. Just hear me out. You know the shows about god at night or in the morning on tv they show them, where people fall uncontious at the touch of hand, and people talk about unbelievable things. Well, I think it is a big act not only by the perfomer, but the whole show is set up for it. You know what I'm talking bout?
Zee96969696 3 years ago
No - its just too convoluted - very much speculation with not a SHRED to back it up with - also lets not forget about the eye witness factor - over a hundred simple ordinary folk with highly bizarre paranormal testimonies that serve overallto back up or support the entire Meier story as it is presented - think about - ordinary salt of the earth credible types as eye witness with little or no motivation for lying - possibly the hardest thing to fake in real terms.
batdancer 3 years ago
Yes, but how do you know that what you are saying is true. What if the people that tell the story are also lying about eye witnesses, what if there are no eye witness, whats if it only a few actors? Look, I'm not saying that anybody is lying, but I'm saying that they might be lying, it's just so easy to do, well, actually, I don't think I could pull of such a big lye, I think you need a talent for it, got to be born with it. I don't believe it, but I might be wrong.
Zee96969696 3 years ago
Zee, I think you need to do more research, and maybe watch the video from 1978 where they tested the pictures, video, metals, sound, and even gave Billy a lie detector text, and everything passed. So tell me your proof that everything if fake, because people(experts) have said the stuff is real. So do your damn research.
frankieallison 3 years ago
@Zee96969696 You don't seem to know what you're talking about.
2009OLP 1 year ago
Zee96969696 You are of many people out there who merely dismiss this case too quickly. Why don`t you get the DVD or borrow it and view it. Read the material; Thoroughly before being so quick to dis it. PLEASE.
bigcree 3 years ago
Now there was apparently some team investigating this case, and they said that they investigated those videos very closely and there is no way those videos could be fake. Now I don't think I'm going to believe any more fary tales told by some low life people. If there are ufos, then I'll hear it in the news, i'm pretty shure, because that would be big news. And there are news of ufo's, but I haven't seen any news where they say it is confermed that ufo's have visited earth.
Zee96969696 3 years ago
wow - thats the most spelling mistakes i've ever seen in a comment! ;)
batdancer 3 years ago
lol, English is my second language, yeah, I know I got alot of spelling mistakes. I was bourne in Russia, and moved to Australia at age of 12. Hey, did you hear of the story where a guy killed 2 big grey aliens, and those aliens are living right now deep underground, and they are controlling our governments, and soon there will be a new world order, and aliens are gona take over the earth? Find that story on utube, they say that they have hard evidence to back up theyr story.
Zee96969696 3 years ago
his name is Phil Schnieder, type it on youtube, then listen to him closely, he has evidence like rocks from another world, photos, you name it, he's got it. But, I thought Billy Meyer sayd that earth is not in danger from aliens, and there is no one else on earth who is being contacted. But Phil Schnieder says, that there are 11 different spiecies of alien visit earth all the time. Who is telling the truth if any of them?
Zee96969696 3 years ago
The Plejaren explain that there are, and have been, many who have had a kind of contact with the Plejaren. But, mostly these people have simply viewed their craft. The ones who have had personal contact have had contact in the form of telepathic impulses and mostly fear to go public. The Plejaren tell us that there are some real contacts taking place with Earth Humans and extraterrestrials other than that with Meier, but they are of a very different essence and are very limited. - (cont'd...)
batdancer 3 years ago
These include occasional examination contacts by scientific expeditions who mean no harm, and a very occasional kidnapping by others who are barbaric. But this is nothing on the scale of the hysteria often generated . Mostly visitors simply come and go and perhaps observe or collect plant and mineral and other samples for their scientific examinations.
(cont'd)
batdancer 3 years ago
So when they say Billy is the only one it has to be understood to mean the only one with face to face, official, on-going contact, involving a huge amount of note-taking (contact notes) in the context of verall mission itself.
batdancer 3 years ago
Yes, I know that, this is Billy Meyers story, but Phill Schnieders story is different. And Phill Schnieder has also evidence as good as Billys, maybe even better. Do you get what I'm saying, there are a number of different people who has an alien story, and these storys are different. Do you understand what I am saying, they all say that they have very good evidence to back it up, evidence as good as Billy Meyers, if not better. You probably still not getting it, lol
Zee96969696 3 years ago
yeah thats fine i hear ya - just wanted to first clear up - the issue of billy supposedly being the only contactee - that gets thrown around a lot on the net - but is not really the case - figured it was important to clarify that first
batdancer 3 years ago
anyway re: Phil Schneider - yes have seen all of the vids some time ago - and his testimony is for sure compelling - however didn't comment as not in full authority to say exactly what is going on here in this instance - there are several possibilities - just one is that he has had 'some' experiences but that he is drawing perhaps some very erroneous and misleading conclusions - one has to be very careful here..lots of folks making wild claims - lots of which is just bogus! - eg alex collier!
batdancer 3 years ago
any anyway, in any case - if memory serves - pretty full sure that Phil Schneider was of the definite opinion that Billy Meier was for real! ;)
batdancer 3 years ago
But how, if they are telling two different storys, then how can one of them support the other. If Phil says Billy is for real, that means that Phil is lying, you get what I'm saying? Phil says that we are all under attack right now from big 7 foot grey aliens, those aliens are slowly taking over our governments, and they abdoct lots of people and eat peoples scins, and soon, we will al be inslaved. Billy is saying, we are not in danger of other aliens.
Zee96969696 3 years ago
most probably not lying - just very deluded! - again like alex collier - so many nutjobs - have the feeling that a certain percentage of schneider's brain falls into the nutjob category - also what must be known is that believe it or not there are in fact - false flag abductions being carried out by ufos of terrestrial origin- ie black ops -
they are doing extremely advanced & scurrilous things - anyway definitly the greys are not slowly taking over govs. they dont care about us that much!
batdancer 3 years ago
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I've read the Talmud Jmmanuel, and while in Tbilisi Georgia in 2006 "And They Still Fly", which prediction later,in the book on pages 276-277, began to appear relevant August 8, 2008. There are many videos on these topics on the net freely available - by Wendelle C. Stevens, Edward T. Martin, Dr. Dietmar Rothe, Randolph Winters, etc. Michael Horn does as super great job in this documentary of presenting evidence and the case in "The Silent Revolution Of Truth" DVD. Teachings of Spirit are deep.
tigr7170 3 years ago
I am pretty sure some of the stuff Phil said is true, but some of it isn't true. Billy is telling the truth. Only someone who is stupid would think he is lying, because the guy has pictures of the UFO's from 1964. There is no way someone can fake the picture in 1964. There was no computers back in 1964, and there is no way it could be a model, because it is to far away.
frankieallison 3 years ago
in any case - even leaving out the issue of the cuts/splices (as damning as you think that might be) - bottom line is that this footage is still simply too good anyway - ie ufo with unbelievably good contours, light levels, stunning near impossible to arrive at AERIAL PERSPECTIVE - and that also hovers/pulses similar to countless other highly credible ufos film/vid recordings - and also in a way that correlates with 'hutchinson effect' if you will.the cuts issue - NOT enough to trash the case.
batdancer 3 years ago
The cuts and splices were made while the original movie film was out of Meier's possession, loaned out to the TV station in Munich. After the reel had been returned it was learned that only a copy of the original was on it. During the process of making a copy, any jumps in the film's position initiated at splice points naturally carry over onto the film copy. Thus, the telltale jumps indicative of cutting and splicing show up on the later video copies of the film copy....
batdancer 3 years ago
Col. Wendelle C. Stevens, USAF Ret., spent 8 years investigating the case, & after believing it authentic? Is that why Lee & Brit Elders, professionals, spent years investigating the case & felt it should be shared? The alleged prophetic accuracy of copyrighted material years before events later occured as Meier's described in advance? Spiritual Teachings- Universal ONENESS, Eternal Evolution of SPIRIT, Self-RESPONSIBILITY, Unconditional & abiding LOVE, True & real BALANCE, TRUTH, EQUALITY?
tigr7170 3 years ago
120 eye witnesses, so far irreproduceable audio, metal samples, photographic proofs, prophetic accuracy on events published and copyrighted years before coming true - all that hoaxed? It's obvious when people who comment here haven't studied the case, Wendelle C. Steven's videos and presentations of his investigation, Lee & Brit Elders, & all the material available. The book "And They Still Fly" is an excellent source of study on this critically important case. Michael Horn's site also.
tigr7170 3 years ago
Yes, I have been studying the Billy Meier case for a few months as I hadn't heard of it before. I have seen Randolph Winters and gwendelle stevens interviews on youtube which seem very persuasive. There is definately more evidence to proof existance and truth than there is to prove fraud or hoax. The only thing that makes me think 'hoax' is the wedding cake picture of the craft, and the supposedly pleiadian weapon which looks like its been put together with 70's household domestics.
englishnationalist 3 years ago
It is a copyrighted work, and from my impression, a very well produced, costly (in terms of time and money) work.
tigr7170 3 years ago
Put The movie on utube!!!!!
hawkeyerocco 3 years ago 2
I watched all sides of news on Georgia last few days, also reading many sources. Then I came across pages 276 & 277 of "And Still They Fly" by Guido Moosbrugger (Steelmark, 2nd Edition copyright 2004) of which a 2001 ed. exists. Interesting!!! I read this book while living in Tbilisi for one year.
tigr7170 3 years ago
The discussion has turned into something remniscent of something mentioned in the Talmud of Jmmanuel, Chapter 27, specifically and particularly verse 32. Interesting! Has nothing changed in over 2,000 years? ;)
tigr7170 3 years ago
Billy's the real deal. Still stands today. Over 30 years.
1gregmichael 3 years ago
Did anyone see the Randolph Winter's presentation on Youtube of tape 15B 3 or 4 and mention of "WEATHER" ie. the Billy Meier contact notes regarding that topic?
tigr7170 3 years ago
This movie needs to be available at every video rental outlet in the world. Get your copy.
100% true.
PEACE to all humans. Y
dewzs 3 years ago
hey tigr - well done for voicing your well reasoned and highly astute considerations on the Meier Case and in particular on the extremly inspirational must see new DVD...'The Silent Revolution of Truth' - keep up the good work! Saalome gam naan ben uurda, gan njjber asaala hesporoona! Peace be on Earth, and among all beings!
russell7771181 3 years ago
Thank you - Peace Be Unto You
tigr7170 3 years ago
saw the vid. Its awesome. Been with Billy's group since early 2000. I highly recommend Billy's material to the world.
mgilbo1 3 years ago
mgilbo you were in Billy's community? As I understand after all the dramas and screw ups driving the Pleiadians away through their ego and political agendas they were a diminished force? Do they still idolise and worship him or have they evolved spiritually?
stargate669 3 years ago
stargate669, where did you hear that from? If you have ever started a business or managed people on the job, whenever you mix differing personalities together you always will get certain squabbles. That was years ago and there haven't been issues like that for years as per the group and others that go there. There is no worshiping by the way, they tell everyone to use your own reason to come to your OWN conclusions. Its obvious you haven't looked into billy lately considering your questions.
mgilbo1 3 years ago
no worshipping?...`certain squabbles'!! c'mon my friend be honest. In the end it doesn't matter what I think but what happened. What happened was so bad, so egotistical, so `human' and such an utter failure that the Pleiadians/Plejorians left in disgust. You failed the planet and billions of people through your own selfish desires. What an opportunity you had to change humanity and you threw it away. The Meiers community is known through the world as the failed community through ego.
stargate669 3 years ago
Stargate669, who are to tell anyone they failed? Have you gone to Switzerland? Have you visited and spent time with the people there who work full time at their jobs, raise their families and then work for FREE at Figu all night? You are a fool with an agenda and just like all the other UFO Expert wanna bee's that just want to make a buck somewhere. Meier has been very successful in spreading his message to all countries around the world and unfortunately for you, it will continue.
mgilbo1 3 years ago
my friend I doubt what you say from your response to me. The only thing I want to be an expert on his myself as that is the only way to evolve and grow. The original idea of the Meiers community was to do just this. But instead with sexual struggles, jealousy, power wranglings etc you became the very institution you were set up to bring down! What you call `billy's material' represents this and that is why there is so much confusion, mocking and rejection of the meiers message.
stargate669 3 years ago
Stargate669, your tone is funny to me. You tend to think that just because these people get to work with Billy and interpret the material that they are on some higher plane than all other humans. They are just like everyone else in the world. They have fears, ego's, desires, insecurities and more and if you think the Plejarens are going to punish them because they are like every other human on this low level planet, you are nuts. Even the Plejaren are not perfect. Get over it pal, move on.
mgilbo1 3 years ago 3
Stargate669, I don't mean to be rude but please stop talking about the Meier case until you get a clue. It is clear by reading your posts you simply have no clue about the subject and not only that but you are trying to spread lies about the Billy and FIGU.
originaldanielsonv2 3 years ago
One word "reptilians"
Constavlos 3 years ago
Has nothing to do with them. Watch the movie!
dewzs 3 years ago
How would you know? It's quite ridiculous to believe everything that somebody says without question. See my comment above? "two thumbs down" and no rebuttal, that just shows how ignorant people are, they just wanna hear airy fairy lies, and live in ignorance, rather than keep that head above the water and move for themselves.
Constavlos 3 years ago
Constavlos - You've read the Talmud Jmmanuel? You've read Contact Notes 10 and 11? You abhor the Spirit, and Creation? I am suspecting that you have not studied the case, and note that Ret. Lt. Col. Wendelle Stevens USAF did for 8 years, and concluded that THIS case is NO HOAX. And about "reptilians" - how would you know ;)
Condemnation without investigation is the height of ignorance. Albert Einstein
tigr7170 3 years ago
Funny :)
But once Billy Meier's aliens said they lied about nearly everything they taught Billy, and said that original contact notes needed to be held back, that's when I got suspicious. Looks like a swhich happened from the real Pleiadians, over to reptilins, of course... I could be worng, but I don't trust beings that are lairs (self-professed or otherwise).
Constavlos 3 years ago
constavlos no: watch the youtube videos of randolph winter. Understand where there is truth and potential change and great advancement for humanity there you will find the most dis/misinformation. Sadly, what happened with Meiers was ego, sexual and selfish focus in the community. This drove the Pleiadians away. He screwed up and has to live with that. However, forget Meiers focus instead on informing and developing yourself. Change for the world starts within you.
stargate669 3 years ago
MY WORD! How did you know that, that's pretty deeply buried info, so how did you find that out? Amazing.
Constavlos 3 years ago
Lol... Stargate669 forgot to take his medicine today. He goes around spreading lies about Billy on all his video's with NO evidence to back it up. The plejaren's left this planet because that portion of their mission was over, NOT because of the group. Stargate669 needs to get a life and realize that Billy's message over the last 50 years has only grown and has been prophecised to grow in the future even more. Get used to it stargate, no matter what you do, you have already lost.
mgilbo1 3 years ago 2
My friend if anyone has agendas it is you! It is a well known fact the Meier community drove away the Pleiadians/Plejorans. I know the community lives within it's own politics and would never acknowledge this. That is your karma to work out. You did have a great opportunity to develop something amazingly special but threw it all away and failed us all. What you do today is invoke all the hierarchical, worship, more than less than things that your whole purpose was to evolve from.
stargate669 3 years ago
I think that you right about the part were you said we have to learn ourselfs but I feel that we have to have like a mental christian stance we have to hold while doing it in order not to trip and get caught up in the current moments of confusion...and that we need to increase the level of understanding the consequences without disturbing the peace.
You can stand tall after you trip...
If you dont understand put it on the shelf for later bro.
truejustice1 3 years ago
having a christian ,ind state is how we got to where we are now. religion is the main problem.
Capclass96 3 years ago 4
Dear tigr7170, thank you so much for sharing your important and clever comments of the new film of Mr. Michael Horn and Billy Meier...The Silent Revolution Of Truth - The Most Important Case in the Human History on Earth!
Warmest Greetings,
Javier V. Maldonado
Alliance for Responsible Humankind on Earth and Universes
Lima, Peru
JavierVMaldonado 3 years ago 3
Dear tigr7170, thank you so much for sharing your important and clever comments of the new film of Mr. Michael Horn and Billy Meier...The Silent Revolution Of Truth - The Most Important Case in the Human History on Earth!
Warmest Greetings,
Javier V. Maldonado
Alliance for Responsible Humankind on Earth and Universes
Lima, Peru
JavierVMaldonado 3 years ago 3
"When your wisdom, truth, and spiritual knowledge increase -- when universal love guides your life -- when your life is a blessing for yourself and for others -- then know that your understanding of the Truth has come to fruition. Then you will know that you and Creation are one, now and forever."
7 main focuses of Plejaren Spirituality:
Universal ONENESS, Eternal Evolution of SPIRIT, Self-RESPONSIBILITY, Unconditional & abiding LOVE, True & real BALANCE, TRUTH,
EQUALITY.
tigr7170 3 years ago