Well, that's all well and fine but starches also play a huge role in obesity, diabetes, kidney disease, neuropathy, heart disease, etc. Also, idk about da Atkins diet, but the paleo diet promote eating fruits and veggies low in starch over meat. Then meat comes as a second place/ or third depending how you look at it, as a macronutrient.
Ahh, the title of this video is incorrect. John stated that early humans WERE hunter and gathers, although the gathering took a much larger part than the hunting...
This is still true of modern hunter-gatherer cultures, who opportunistically gather, and hunt primarily during hot seasons when animals are restricted to small water sources. Typically they are not overly successful.
I would suggest (if possible) that you consider renamed the title of the video..
The transition from hunter gatherer to farmer was done under sufferance. People were far more happy, healthy and free as hunter gatherers. Farming was a miserable existence in comparison. Hunter gatherers lived a spontaneous free life with large amounts of time dedicated to leisure.
hunter gatherer societies still exist today. This man is shot to bits, read a book mate there are still hunter gatherers and they tend to have more free time than people living in a capitalist society dependent on agriculture for survival.
Missed in all the ice age / cavemen lore is that the entire world was not glaciated. Other than Canada and far northern Europe, the rest of the now-inhabited world was temperate. Anyone with a garden can see how obvious farming would have been to prehistoric humans. Plants sprout out of seeds and roots? Let's move them around and get more plants. Compare that to the difficulty of making weapons or killing anything other than bugs, and one can assume farming (and starch eating) preceded hunting.
That is what I have always heard as well. Hunter/gatherers didn't work 9 to 5 jobs, their only job was providing food, which didn't comprise of their entire day...a surprisingly small amount, it is believed. I have a degree in Cultural Anthropology and Dr. McDougall makes a lot of incorrect statements and logical fallacies to support his agenda.
@elementz1986 I love it when people agree with me! His seminal vesicle argument is compelling... if true.
I have a High School Diploma and Dr. McDougall makes a lot of incorrect statements and logical fallacies to support his agenda... sounds like the line from a commercial for the support of education or the support of the meat industry(in pill commercial style). :)
@elementz1986 Nowadays we have more free time to do other stuff besides looking for food. In that time it was a necessity, because they did not have supermarkets where they could buy their food. No, if they wanted to survive they needed to get the food themselves. Trust me, when u are starving the only thing that is on ur mind is food. And it did comprise their whole day, because the more they gathered, the brighter the future.
When "white-people" teach that people worked long hours gathering and hunting, and that time improved work hours, this is false, and is most likely taught to make people believe that they are "more free" now when in reality, the opposite is true.
SOME of what this man says is true, but MOST is white-perspective biased BS. For one thing, indigenous people who have learned from their tribal ancestors will tell you that when HUmans were "gather-hunters", they only had to work THREE HOURS A DAY for their basic needs to be met, then the rest was devoted to play and spirituality. This is most likely why they were more spiritually advanced.
@ayemaya75 It all depends on how plentiful food is where you are, how much competition there is for that food supply, what season you're in, etc. If life was always that easy, we never would have created agriculture, irrigation systems, built armies and civilizations, etc. It's not nearly as simple as you make sound. He makes some valid points about the importance of starches in the human diet.
Resources have always been abundant, if the area became depleted, people migrated to another area. "Competition" was not needed until people obsessed with "greed" invaded the area. Still today, if it wasn't for "greed", there would be enough for everyone without "competition". I still do not agree with most of his biased perspectives.
@ayemaya75 Resources have not always been abundant. Why do you think cavemen ate other cavemen? To avoid starvation. Scarcity is most likely what drove early man to leave Africa and migrate elsewhere. Eventually, the world was populated and there were no new places to settle, thus competition for resources and war. You clearly have a very biased perspective yourself.
Cavemen ate other cavemen??? That's a new one! I wonder what "evidence" "they" imagined and created for that one. I TOTALLY disagree with the "theories" that you support. I have nothing further to say.
@ayemaya75 Just google "cannibal cavemen," you'll find article after article discussing the archaeological findings which prove cavemen cannibalized one another for food. Look it up!
@ayemaya75 Well, professional anthropologists say you're wrong, and I believe them over you any day, as would anyone with a brain. You have some idealistic theories about how early man lived and I'm sorry to say they simply aren't true. Life was a struggle.
Regarding your comment about "cavemen" being "cannibals": Some probably would disagree with me and I know that many would not. My professors were all "professional". Anthropologists argue greatly amongst themselves because it's all based on perspectives. The only way it could be "proven" is if we built a time machine and went back to that era.
@scooma1 Since you seem interested, check out Dr. McDougall's video "The Perils of Dairy." If you skip ahead to 39:55 he discusses more Inuit excavations which showed the same coronary disease and severe osteoporosis; they were between the ages of 20 and 40. He also discusses a study published on the Inuit from the 1970's which dealt with the health problems associated with meat heavy diets, like the Inuit.
@scooma1 Cut meat, dairy, eggs and oil out of your diet, and you will never have a heart attack or stroke. If you chose to bring any of these four ingredients into your diet, you are consuming the building blocks for cardiovascular disease. Are you on drugs?
@scooma1 If I delete a post it's because I made an error... Or I wanted to phrase something differently, LOL. Again, look at you trying to change the subject... ha ha ha.
@scooma1 The funny thing is I proved to you many posts ago that a meat heavy diet causes cardiovascular disease by using the Inuit as an example. But then, without missing a beat, you tried to dodge that train by shifting to the subject of Egyptian mummies hoping to find refuge in the apparent Mummy paradox. But again, you have been defeated by the facts. Put up the white flag and come out with your hands up. It's over.
@scooma1 Let me help you out... THE EGYPTIAN MUMMY PARADOX from the McDougall Newsletter May 2011, "This apparent contradiction between the disease-filled bodies of mummies and the ancient Egyptian diet is resolved by understanding that people entitled to the rituals of mummification and noble burials were wealthy, typically royalty and priests, not the common person. The rich foods consumed by the elites were vastly different than the frugal, mainly vegetarian, diets the common laborers ate"
@scooma1 Just give up already, lol. Check out the video "Make Yourself Heart Attack Proof" by Dr. Esselstyn. It's a great lecture and I learned a great deal from it. There is new thinking on cardiovascular disease and he explains it very well. He will recommend you cut meat, dairy and vegetable oil out of your diet, and he has plenty of research to back up his conclusions. I strongly recommend EVERYONE check it out.
@scooma1 Again, you're talking about Mummies who were royalty in their day, then attributing to them the diet of the average Egyptian. Sure, the average Egyptian ate a diet high in fruits vegetables and grains, but the royal families ate a much richer diet, higher in meat and fat. Thus the presence of cardiovascular disease.
@scooma1 No, The Mummies were not the average Egyptian, those were the kings who ate a meat heavy diet. You're trying to confuse the issue. Just admit you were mistaken and take this as a lesson learned.
My messages are probably marked as spam because either you marked them, or because I've posted too much in too short a time.
@scooma1 Don't change the subject. Just look at the Inuit woman who was unearthed and look at the condition her arteries are in, they even put pictures in there for you to examine. Here lies the proof, just like you wanted: an Inuit woman, living 500 years ago on a meat heavy diet, lacking in grains, has cardiovascular disease.
@scooma1 I found it. The name of the article is THE PALEOPATHOLOGY OF THE CARDIOVASCULAR SYSTEM by Dr. M.R. Zimmerman. In this article he identifies cardiovascular disease in the arteries of mummified humans dating back 3,000 years... long before McDonald's appeared. The article discusses the Inuit woman as well. This study proves that eating meat, no matter how "organic" or "grass fed" it may be, still causes cardiovascular disease in human beings.
@scooma1 I'm not sure if it was the same finding, I don't remember reading about 5 other people. The osteoporosis though, showed that our theories on high animal protein diets do in fact cause osteoporosis, even in ancient cultures before the introduction of "white man's food" - according to Weston Price. I will try to find that article if I can and tell you more about it.
@scooma1 First off, his name is Dr. Campbell; his first name is Colin. Secondly, you just said that Dr. Campbell "ignored" these people, so how is reading his book going to educate me about a people he didn't study...?
And I'll admit, I haven't read his book, I've just read about some key findings he made and watched some lectures by him on youtube.
@scooma1 I wasn' t talking about the modern Inuit. If I was, I would have mentioned their higher cancer and diabetes rates. I'm talking about the traditional Inuit who live on their traditional diets. I was reading an article recently about an Inuit woman who was found and excavated after being frozen for ~ 500 years. She had osteoporosis and plaque in her arteries when they studied her.
@scooma1 Since I can't verify anything about those people, I can compare them to the Inuit and tell you that the Inuit are not as healthy as people claim. Sure, cancer rates are low, but that's because they eat a lot of raw meat, as opposed to cooked meat. Autopsies have been done on dead Inuit and they have been found to have coronary disease just like everyone else who eats meat. They also suffer from the highest Osteoporosis rate on Earth. They also don't grow very tall; 5' 4" on average.
@scooma1 I have looked at the data. Her claim is that there are too many other variables to conclude that animal proteins cause cancer.. it's nonsense. We all have cancer cells in our bodies right now. The only way your body keeps them subdued is with a healthy immune system. You will not have a healthy immune system on a diet of COOKED animal fats and proteins. If you want to live like the Eskimos and eat raw meat, have fun. Most of us would rather eat raw fruits and vegetables for health.
@scooma1 I've looked into some of the "claims" made against the China Study and haven't read anything convincing enough to discredit their research. I've watched 4 youtube videos with Denise Minger, who supposedly was "debunking" The China Study, and didn't hear a single intelligent sentence come out of her mouth. Until I see something convincing enough to cast any doubt on the China Study, I'll go along with their findings. No reason to think otherwise.
@scooma1 I don't eat meat, and have no intention of eating it. I recommend you check out "The China Study" by Dr. Colin Campbell and "Make Yourself Heart Attack Proof" by Dr. Esselstyn if you want to know exactly what meat eating will do to you long-term. Why people like yourself are obsessed with fat and meat is beyond me. I think deep down, you would much rather be lean and healthy than be bulky and slow. I don't know what shape you're in, but it sounds like you're justifying being overweight
@scooma1 Your boy, "Butterbean" will die at an early age, I can pretty much guarantee it judging by how morbidly obese he is. He looks horrible. Sumo wrestlers fight in a circle and the goal is to push the other one's fat ass out of that circle; there's no comparison to what the gladiators were doing. They were fighting in an open arena where one person was going to be killed by the other. "Butterbean" wouldn't stand a chance in an open arena with weapons being used in 100 degree heat.
@scooma1 Yes I have bit my cheek, and luckily my teeth DID NOT cut through my cheek like warm butter. I ate meat for the first half of my life and I know for a fact that my teeth cut through fruits way easier than they cut through steak. Eating meat requires a lot of chewing and is very taxing on your digestive system. We don't have the physiology of a meat eater, that's why people who eat meat on a regular basis develop so many ridiculous health problems that never seem to go away.
@scooma1 No, I don't like to think of them in fur skins, and no again on your fat argument here. The fatter you are, the slower you are and the quicker you will tire. Not to mention they were fighting in a warm mediterranean climate; you would be an idiot to be fat and wear fur. Where do you come up with this nonsense? A trim gladiator would run circles around a fat gladiator and the fat one would be defeated by the SUPERIOR trim fighter.
The research of Dr. Karl Grossschmidt is exactly what Dr. McDougall is responding to in that video excerpt. If you look at depictions of the gladiators, they are muscular but never fat. I've actually never read any Of Dr. McDougall's books, and all the fact checking I've done has been primarily on wikipedia. You haven't explained how a person who doesn't eat fat, gets fat. I'd like to hear your reasoning there. I bet you're gonna blame carbohydrates... am I right?
@1imesub c'mon ,we both now all this nonsense spouted by low carb paleo primal trolls focuses on obesity and fat being solely and unequivocally a result of carbs!! eat ALL the saturated animal fat and cholesterol that you desire and you will healthy! What a crock of shit.
As usual, Dr.McDougall is right on the money. These fools have no real arguement. They use pseudobroscience to justify their destructive lifestyle.
@scooma1 Nobody said they were vegan for moral reasons. What resulted from a diet of Barley and Beans, however, was a superior athlete, that's all he's saying. The gladiators had no substantial source of fat in their diet, so for you to suggest that they were "fat" is an uneducated guess. I've already looked into many of his historical claims and found them to be accurate. If you have some actual "facts" to dispute any of his claims, feel free to post them.
@cekf8 If you haven't already watched it, check out his "Gladiators were Vegan" lecture on youtube. He introduces new facts to aid in disproving the current wisdom. Also check out his lecture on youtube called "The Starch Solution." He discusses recent archaeological findings in Mozambique which date the consumption of grains back ~ 105,000 ago, and in Chile, potatoes ~ 14,000 years ago. What he's saying that starches were the vital fuel for human evolution; meat wasn't all that important.
@1imesub I'm Okey w? agriculture and food but the time-line is taking with evolution theory in mind which is is based on the philosophy of naturalism, the uniformitarianism assumption is that the same natural laws and processes that operate in the universe now, have always operated in the universe in the past and apply everywhere in the universe. It has included the gradualistic concept that "the present is the key to the past" and functioning at the same rates.than build it in to Dating system
It should be obvious that we are not meat eaters by design. I think the funniest claim by meat pushers is that our canines are designed for ripping and tearing flesh... those tiny things?! I always love hearing that one... thanks for the laughs guys.
@1imesub Especially since Gorillas have much larger canines and very rarely consume meat in the wild, horses (and many animals for that matter) also have canines and never eat meat. Dogs (for whom canines are named) are actually true omnivores anyways, not carnivores like most people think. However i think the funnier claim is that our current brain size is due to us eating meat in the past. . .
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kronier 1 week ago
Well, that's all well and fine but starches also play a huge role in obesity, diabetes, kidney disease, neuropathy, heart disease, etc. Also, idk about da Atkins diet, but the paleo diet promote eating fruits and veggies low in starch over meat. Then meat comes as a second place/ or third depending how you look at it, as a macronutrient.
tatsumakisempyukaku 1 month ago
@tatsumakisempyukaku Depends what starches your are talking about...
gymgymgymgym 4 weeks ago
LOL - BS
jm9rssl 1 month ago
He's simply wrong.
bryn93 1 month ago
@bryn93 Tell us about that... He's simply right...
XxDadaxXx 1 month ago
Dr. McDougall has an uncanny way of explaining things so they're easily understood. Love him.
MrJaketthomas 2 months ago
Ahh, the title of this video is incorrect. John stated that early humans WERE hunter and gathers, although the gathering took a much larger part than the hunting...
This is still true of modern hunter-gatherer cultures, who opportunistically gather, and hunt primarily during hot seasons when animals are restricted to small water sources. Typically they are not overly successful.
I would suggest (if possible) that you consider renamed the title of the video..
ChuckNumans 2 months ago 2
Dr. Mac is right on regarding the history of mankind. Our population growth is a resulted from technology that enabled us to utilize fossil fuel.
etramway 2 months ago
The transition from hunter gatherer to farmer was done under sufferance. People were far more happy, healthy and free as hunter gatherers. Farming was a miserable existence in comparison. Hunter gatherers lived a spontaneous free life with large amounts of time dedicated to leisure.
fiveredpears 2 months ago
I know a lot of people think he's right and a lot of people think he's wrong, but no one is giving links or references! PLEASE!
vteam02 3 months ago
this is false and also disrespectful.
gremlinfeatures 3 months ago
@gremlinfeatures It's true. Consuming the dead is disrespectful.
1imesub 2 months ago
hunter gatherer societies still exist today. This man is shot to bits, read a book mate there are still hunter gatherers and they tend to have more free time than people living in a capitalist society dependent on agriculture for survival.
gremlinfeatures 3 months ago
@gremlinfeatures You missed the point.
1imesub 2 months ago
every thing about this is wrong
preston9019 3 months ago
potato is from Peru 10,00 years ago they discovered! and now we have it in our plates enjoy a good food! :)
TheAmigogrande 3 months ago 2
what bullshits there are still tribals with hunters-gatherers in africa.... farming came just in 7000bc.
ButhThe 4 months ago
Missed in all the ice age / cavemen lore is that the entire world was not glaciated. Other than Canada and far northern Europe, the rest of the now-inhabited world was temperate. Anyone with a garden can see how obvious farming would have been to prehistoric humans. Plants sprout out of seeds and roots? Let's move them around and get more plants. Compare that to the difficulty of making weapons or killing anything other than bugs, and one can assume farming (and starch eating) preceded hunting.
deadeyedick1933 6 months ago
I believe they had more free time in the gatherer days.
Guesticle 6 months ago
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That is what I have always heard as well. Hunter/gatherers didn't work 9 to 5 jobs, their only job was providing food, which didn't comprise of their entire day...a surprisingly small amount, it is believed. I have a degree in Cultural Anthropology and Dr. McDougall makes a lot of incorrect statements and logical fallacies to support his agenda.
elementz1986 5 months ago
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@elementz1986 I love it when people agree with me! His seminal vesicle argument is compelling... if true.
I have a High School Diploma and Dr. McDougall makes a lot of incorrect statements and logical fallacies to support his agenda... sounds like the line from a commercial for the support of education or the support of the meat industry(in pill commercial style). :)
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Guesticle 5 months ago
@elementz1986 Nowadays we have more free time to do other stuff besides looking for food. In that time it was a necessity, because they did not have supermarkets where they could buy their food. No, if they wanted to survive they needed to get the food themselves. Trust me, when u are starving the only thing that is on ur mind is food. And it did comprise their whole day, because the more they gathered, the brighter the future.
ImaRiseToThaTop 4 months ago
@ImaRiseToThaTop Read The Clan of the Cave Bear by Jean M. Auel
rhythymsofmysoul 4 months ago
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Bodybuddhauk 6 months ago
Part 2 of 2:
When "white-people" teach that people worked long hours gathering and hunting, and that time improved work hours, this is false, and is most likely taught to make people believe that they are "more free" now when in reality, the opposite is true.
ayemaya75 7 months ago
Part 1 of 2:
SOME of what this man says is true, but MOST is white-perspective biased BS. For one thing, indigenous people who have learned from their tribal ancestors will tell you that when HUmans were "gather-hunters", they only had to work THREE HOURS A DAY for their basic needs to be met, then the rest was devoted to play and spirituality. This is most likely why they were more spiritually advanced.
ayemaya75 7 months ago
@ayemaya75 It all depends on how plentiful food is where you are, how much competition there is for that food supply, what season you're in, etc. If life was always that easy, we never would have created agriculture, irrigation systems, built armies and civilizations, etc. It's not nearly as simple as you make sound. He makes some valid points about the importance of starches in the human diet.
1imesub 7 months ago
@1imesub
Resources have always been abundant, if the area became depleted, people migrated to another area. "Competition" was not needed until people obsessed with "greed" invaded the area. Still today, if it wasn't for "greed", there would be enough for everyone without "competition". I still do not agree with most of his biased perspectives.
ayemaya75 7 months ago
@ayemaya75 Resources have not always been abundant. Why do you think cavemen ate other cavemen? To avoid starvation. Scarcity is most likely what drove early man to leave Africa and migrate elsewhere. Eventually, the world was populated and there were no new places to settle, thus competition for resources and war. You clearly have a very biased perspective yourself.
1imesub 7 months ago
@1imesub
Cavemen ate other cavemen??? That's a new one! I wonder what "evidence" "they" imagined and created for that one. I TOTALLY disagree with the "theories" that you support. I have nothing further to say.
ayemaya75 7 months ago
@ayemaya75 Just google "cannibal cavemen," you'll find article after article discussing the archaeological findings which prove cavemen cannibalized one another for food. Look it up!
1imesub 7 months ago
@1imesub
I am an anthropology major and that is pure BS. NOW, that is ALL that I have to say. Period.
ayemaya75 7 months ago
@ayemaya75 Well, professional anthropologists say you're wrong, and I believe them over you any day, as would anyone with a brain. You have some idealistic theories about how early man lived and I'm sorry to say they simply aren't true. Life was a struggle.
1imesub 7 months ago
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ayemaya75 7 months ago
@1imesub
Regarding your comment about "cavemen" being "cannibals": Some probably would disagree with me and I know that many would not. My professors were all "professional". Anthropologists argue greatly amongst themselves because it's all based on perspectives. The only way it could be "proven" is if we built a time machine and went back to that era.
ayemaya75 7 months ago
@ayemaya75 Does it really matter to you that much?
1imesub 7 months ago
Another great video!
adkpinecone 8 months ago
i eat meat. but less than before. 1/5 of my diet is meat.
mrzack888 8 months ago
@scooma1 Since you seem interested, check out Dr. McDougall's video "The Perils of Dairy." If you skip ahead to 39:55 he discusses more Inuit excavations which showed the same coronary disease and severe osteoporosis; they were between the ages of 20 and 40. He also discusses a study published on the Inuit from the 1970's which dealt with the health problems associated with meat heavy diets, like the Inuit.
1imesub 8 months ago
@scooma1 No problem.
1imesub 8 months ago
@scooma1 I highly recommend you check out the heart attack proof lecture I mentioned earlier. You may get something out of it, I did.
1imesub 8 months ago
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1imesub 8 months ago
@scooma1 And you say you're not on any drugs?
1imesub 8 months ago
@scooma1 Ha ha ha... poor little guy, ran outta facts...
1imesub 8 months ago
@scooma1 LOL yeah, because they eat dairy and oil. You didn't know that?
1imesub 8 months ago
@scooma1 The argument is over, I'm just wondering if you are on any drugs right now...
1imesub 8 months ago
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1imesub 8 months ago
@scooma1 Cut meat, dairy, eggs and oil out of your diet, and you will never have a heart attack or stroke. If you chose to bring any of these four ingredients into your diet, you are consuming the building blocks for cardiovascular disease. Are you on drugs?
1imesub 8 months ago
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1imesub 8 months ago
@scooma1 If I delete a post it's because I made an error... Or I wanted to phrase something differently, LOL. Again, look at you trying to change the subject... ha ha ha.
1imesub 8 months ago
@scooma1 The funny thing is I proved to you many posts ago that a meat heavy diet causes cardiovascular disease by using the Inuit as an example. But then, without missing a beat, you tried to dodge that train by shifting to the subject of Egyptian mummies hoping to find refuge in the apparent Mummy paradox. But again, you have been defeated by the facts. Put up the white flag and come out with your hands up. It's over.
1imesub 8 months ago
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1imesub 8 months ago
@scooma1 Let me help you out... THE EGYPTIAN MUMMY PARADOX from the McDougall Newsletter May 2011, "This apparent contradiction between the disease-filled bodies of mummies and the ancient Egyptian diet is resolved by understanding that people entitled to the rituals of mummification and noble burials were wealthy, typically royalty and priests, not the common person. The rich foods consumed by the elites were vastly different than the frugal, mainly vegetarian, diets the common laborers ate"
1imesub 8 months ago
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1imesub 8 months ago
@scooma1 Just give up already, lol. Check out the video "Make Yourself Heart Attack Proof" by Dr. Esselstyn. It's a great lecture and I learned a great deal from it. There is new thinking on cardiovascular disease and he explains it very well. He will recommend you cut meat, dairy and vegetable oil out of your diet, and he has plenty of research to back up his conclusions. I strongly recommend EVERYONE check it out.
1imesub 8 months ago
@scooma1 Again, you're talking about Mummies who were royalty in their day, then attributing to them the diet of the average Egyptian. Sure, the average Egyptian ate a diet high in fruits vegetables and grains, but the royal families ate a much richer diet, higher in meat and fat. Thus the presence of cardiovascular disease.
1imesub 8 months ago
@scooma1 No, The Mummies were not the average Egyptian, those were the kings who ate a meat heavy diet. You're trying to confuse the issue. Just admit you were mistaken and take this as a lesson learned.
My messages are probably marked as spam because either you marked them, or because I've posted too much in too short a time.
1imesub 8 months ago
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@scooma1 Don't change the subject. Just look at the Inuit woman who was unearthed and look at the condition her arteries are in, they even put pictures in there for you to examine. Here lies the proof, just like you wanted: an Inuit woman, living 500 years ago on a meat heavy diet, lacking in grains, has cardiovascular disease.
1imesub 8 months ago
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@scooma1 I found it. The name of the article is THE PALEOPATHOLOGY OF THE CARDIOVASCULAR SYSTEM by Dr. M.R. Zimmerman. In this article he identifies cardiovascular disease in the arteries of mummified humans dating back 3,000 years... long before McDonald's appeared. The article discusses the Inuit woman as well. This study proves that eating meat, no matter how "organic" or "grass fed" it may be, still causes cardiovascular disease in human beings.
1imesub 8 months ago
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1imesub 8 months ago
@scooma1 I'm not sure if it was the same finding, I don't remember reading about 5 other people. The osteoporosis though, showed that our theories on high animal protein diets do in fact cause osteoporosis, even in ancient cultures before the introduction of "white man's food" - according to Weston Price. I will try to find that article if I can and tell you more about it.
1imesub 8 months ago
@scooma1 First off, his name is Dr. Campbell; his first name is Colin. Secondly, you just said that Dr. Campbell "ignored" these people, so how is reading his book going to educate me about a people he didn't study...?
And I'll admit, I haven't read his book, I've just read about some key findings he made and watched some lectures by him on youtube.
1imesub 8 months ago
@scooma1 I wasn' t talking about the modern Inuit. If I was, I would have mentioned their higher cancer and diabetes rates. I'm talking about the traditional Inuit who live on their traditional diets. I was reading an article recently about an Inuit woman who was found and excavated after being frozen for ~ 500 years. She had osteoporosis and plaque in her arteries when they studied her.
1imesub 8 months ago
@scooma1 Since I can't verify anything about those people, I can compare them to the Inuit and tell you that the Inuit are not as healthy as people claim. Sure, cancer rates are low, but that's because they eat a lot of raw meat, as opposed to cooked meat. Autopsies have been done on dead Inuit and they have been found to have coronary disease just like everyone else who eats meat. They also suffer from the highest Osteoporosis rate on Earth. They also don't grow very tall; 5' 4" on average.
1imesub 8 months ago
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1imesub 8 months ago
@scooma1 I have looked at the data. Her claim is that there are too many other variables to conclude that animal proteins cause cancer.. it's nonsense. We all have cancer cells in our bodies right now. The only way your body keeps them subdued is with a healthy immune system. You will not have a healthy immune system on a diet of COOKED animal fats and proteins. If you want to live like the Eskimos and eat raw meat, have fun. Most of us would rather eat raw fruits and vegetables for health.
1imesub 8 months ago
@scooma1 I've looked into some of the "claims" made against the China Study and haven't read anything convincing enough to discredit their research. I've watched 4 youtube videos with Denise Minger, who supposedly was "debunking" The China Study, and didn't hear a single intelligent sentence come out of her mouth. Until I see something convincing enough to cast any doubt on the China Study, I'll go along with their findings. No reason to think otherwise.
1imesub 8 months ago
@scooma1 I don't eat meat, and have no intention of eating it. I recommend you check out "The China Study" by Dr. Colin Campbell and "Make Yourself Heart Attack Proof" by Dr. Esselstyn if you want to know exactly what meat eating will do to you long-term. Why people like yourself are obsessed with fat and meat is beyond me. I think deep down, you would much rather be lean and healthy than be bulky and slow. I don't know what shape you're in, but it sounds like you're justifying being overweight
1imesub 8 months ago
@scooma1 Your boy, "Butterbean" will die at an early age, I can pretty much guarantee it judging by how morbidly obese he is. He looks horrible. Sumo wrestlers fight in a circle and the goal is to push the other one's fat ass out of that circle; there's no comparison to what the gladiators were doing. They were fighting in an open arena where one person was going to be killed by the other. "Butterbean" wouldn't stand a chance in an open arena with weapons being used in 100 degree heat.
1imesub 8 months ago
@scooma1 Yes I have bit my cheek, and luckily my teeth DID NOT cut through my cheek like warm butter. I ate meat for the first half of my life and I know for a fact that my teeth cut through fruits way easier than they cut through steak. Eating meat requires a lot of chewing and is very taxing on your digestive system. We don't have the physiology of a meat eater, that's why people who eat meat on a regular basis develop so many ridiculous health problems that never seem to go away.
1imesub 8 months ago
@scooma1 No, I don't like to think of them in fur skins, and no again on your fat argument here. The fatter you are, the slower you are and the quicker you will tire. Not to mention they were fighting in a warm mediterranean climate; you would be an idiot to be fat and wear fur. Where do you come up with this nonsense? A trim gladiator would run circles around a fat gladiator and the fat one would be defeated by the SUPERIOR trim fighter.
1imesub 8 months ago
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1imesub 8 months ago
@scooma1 Watch Dr. McDougall's youtube video, "The Starch Solution."
1imesub 8 months ago
The research of Dr. Karl Grossschmidt is exactly what Dr. McDougall is responding to in that video excerpt. If you look at depictions of the gladiators, they are muscular but never fat. I've actually never read any Of Dr. McDougall's books, and all the fact checking I've done has been primarily on wikipedia. You haven't explained how a person who doesn't eat fat, gets fat. I'd like to hear your reasoning there. I bet you're gonna blame carbohydrates... am I right?
1imesub 8 months ago
@1imesub c'mon ,we both now all this nonsense spouted by low carb paleo primal trolls focuses on obesity and fat being solely and unequivocally a result of carbs!! eat ALL the saturated animal fat and cholesterol that you desire and you will healthy! What a crock of shit.
As usual, Dr.McDougall is right on the money. These fools have no real arguement. They use pseudobroscience to justify their destructive lifestyle.
ConcreteRiver 1 month ago
@ConcreteRiver Amen!
1imesub 1 month ago
@scooma1 Nobody said they were vegan for moral reasons. What resulted from a diet of Barley and Beans, however, was a superior athlete, that's all he's saying. The gladiators had no substantial source of fat in their diet, so for you to suggest that they were "fat" is an uneducated guess. I've already looked into many of his historical claims and found them to be accurate. If you have some actual "facts" to dispute any of his claims, feel free to post them.
1imesub 8 months ago
@cekf8 If you haven't already watched it, check out his "Gladiators were Vegan" lecture on youtube. He introduces new facts to aid in disproving the current wisdom. Also check out his lecture on youtube called "The Starch Solution." He discusses recent archaeological findings in Mozambique which date the consumption of grains back ~ 105,000 ago, and in Chile, potatoes ~ 14,000 years ago. What he's saying that starches were the vital fuel for human evolution; meat wasn't all that important.
1imesub 8 months ago
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1imesub 8 months ago
I always thought this was an idea grabbed out of thin air, with no evidence whatsoever to substantiate the claim man was a hunter-gatherer.
swampratzozzle 8 months ago
I love this until he talks about 12000 years where does he gets these numbers.
drshamast 8 months ago
@drshamast His numbers are correct. Search "Timeline of agriculture and food technology" on wikipedia and see for yourself.
1imesub 8 months ago
@1imesub I'm Okey w? agriculture and food but the time-line is taking with evolution theory in mind which is is based on the philosophy of naturalism, the uniformitarianism assumption is that the same natural laws and processes that operate in the universe now, have always operated in the universe in the past and apply everywhere in the universe. It has included the gradualistic concept that "the present is the key to the past" and functioning at the same rates.than build it in to Dating system
drshamast 8 months ago
The summer is the only time I get organic mint from my yard, and so far I haven't used it near often enough. I feel so much better with greens!
CharlotteFairchild 8 months ago
Powerful Video!!!!
thank you for sharing
Namaste
IChoseTheRedPill 8 months ago 2
Yes, the body makes its energy from carbohydrates
natureasintended 8 months ago
I love this man! Such a simple and honest message.
PianistErikOsterberg 8 months ago 3
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PianistErikOsterberg 8 months ago
It should be obvious that we are not meat eaters by design. I think the funniest claim by meat pushers is that our canines are designed for ripping and tearing flesh... those tiny things?! I always love hearing that one... thanks for the laughs guys.
1imesub 8 months ago 27
@1imesub Especially since Gorillas have much larger canines and very rarely consume meat in the wild, horses (and many animals for that matter) also have canines and never eat meat. Dogs (for whom canines are named) are actually true omnivores anyways, not carnivores like most people think. However i think the funnier claim is that our current brain size is due to us eating meat in the past. . .
101011001 8 months ago 17
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1imesub 8 months ago
@101011001 LOL, do they say that too? about the brain size? I must admit I haven't heard that before, but it is laughable.
SibelCatana 8 months ago