Why is the photography on Brit documentaries so bad?? The music and bands are always the best, but you can count on the pictures being drab, lifeless, uncreative, and almost boring.
even out of tune this song sounds good by the pretenders--probly when it was transferred from tape the video was slow so that's why it's all out of tune. too bad she smokes. always liked the pretenders. so many big singers are smokers. vetter, hynde, robert plant... too bad. anyway i always liked her unique voice.
@sabaqat It is at the same tempo as the standard track; Jimmy Scott and Farndon are tuned down a half step, a common practice to make it sound ballsier and also to make it easier if the singer is having trouble hitting the high notes. If the tempo were slower, I would say it was slowed down, but it is the same. It is the tuning. For this tune, the low E string of the bass guitar is tuned down a whole step to D, so when you add the half-step detune to that, it really sounds low, D flat
@acbulgin2 that is VERY interesting about the tuning--I did not know they did that. i might try that... but i disagree about the tuning of the song, it is out of tune, it sounds wrong. you may not be old enough to remember what a cassette or video tape sounds like when it's wound too tight. There is another similar video, a smiths song, that just sounds terrible and people are criticizing johnny marr saying he's an idiot and can't tune his guitar but i'm sure it's because of the tape quality.
@sabaqat Yes I am quite old enough to remember tape decks and LP's (I'm 44). And yes, there can be video and audio tape speed variations that cause pitch variations (it's called "wow"). Additionally, this is obviously an off-the-cuff live rendition of the song. Chrissie is having real problems reaching the notes (maybe it's the stupid cigarette). Notice the first "gonna make you, make you, make you notice" part. She is grabbing at her throat as it it were sore, which it probably was.
@sabaqat It also sounds "wrong" because, aside from the half-step down tuning, it is not the finished, produced, overdubbed, mixed and mastered track we all heard on the record and the radio.Notice that the E11 chord on the Fender Rhodes electric piano is missing on the "I gotta have some of your attention, give it to me." parts. It's on the finished, official track. One of the greatest rock albums of all time. It had it all. I bought it the moment it became available. I think I was 13.
@acbulgin2 wow we're about the same age. i used to love the pretenders and the cars, those were the first bands i used to like... anyway who really cares about the tuning of some song performed 20 years ago, definitely not worth arguing over. ok take care
@sabaqat There is no argument, I was just explaining perhaps why it might have sounded "wrong" to you. There is no question Jimmy and Pete are tuned down a half-step. Any guitar player with perfect pitch or a pitch reference like a tuned guitar or tuner will tell you. They were just messin'. Havin' fun, and notice that guitar jam in the middle of this version is not even on the official one. I think it sounds cool, almost Rush-like or perhaps Van Halenesque. Yes Cars great.
@acbulgin2 You're right about the de-tuning. My guess is Chrissie was having trouble with her voice that night. Notice how she kind of squeaks out the highest notes. And sounds a little forced.
James Honeyman Scott RIP. I get very sad when I listen to the guitar solo in Lovers of Today. Such a terrible, terrible shame. I'll always think of him as one of the greatest.
Without a doubt, had Jim Scott and Peter survived the early 80s they would still be huge today. It was the combination of the 4 that made the band so great. Chrissy still does great stuff but isn't consistent
I don't think anyone ever accused Hynde of being an excellent singer however her VOICE was awesome and meshed with the tunes to an extent that is just not seen anymore.
This is the song that introduced me to the Pretenders..almost 30 years ago. Been a fan ever since. It was one of the first videos shown on MTV also. Can't seem to find that video anywhere.
Leona D You played this song till it wore the needle out.... and me....I will always remember our years together then... great times .. thank god I didn't marry you...
I love the cheap raw production. If they had a budget for a couple steadycams and a director it would have been a slickly edited lip-synced piece of crap. I LOVE IT! Unlike the Grammys, an actual real performance.
You raise a good point, but I'm not persuaded that the two possibilities you set forth are the only ones. I've seen lots of footage that conveys the gritty realness you value and yet is also well-photographed. And I don't see what lip-syncing has to do with anything. Anyhow, we don't get to see a lot of video of the late lamented Pete and James, and I wish that what we do have were more expertly shot.
No those aren't the only two, but if they were, i would take this one. It makes me feel like you're a fly on the wall in their rehearsal, rather than an audience member of a show. It just feels like the inside scoop. Just like it's fun to see outakes from movies.
great video. Just as i remember them. Wonder if Chrissie is still smoking or like the rest of us old farrts has given up for fear of dyin too young. What happened the two players who passed away...drat, I like to think they are all immortal.
ummmm anyone seen the 977 website? the video on there of this os good...same thing just without the silly man at the beginning....aaaahhhh its just timeless...
I've seen clips of this in various Prenteders docs. It's obviously form some UK TV show in 1979 or '80. Does anyone have the full length version of this program?
lol, the guitar and bass weren't even tuned together....you can hear the way the harmonics vibrato at the sustain in the end.....oooops
needaman66 1 month ago
I'll give it to you alright.....you wait n see
needaman66 1 month ago
GIVE ME YOUR ATTENTION "GIVE IT TO ME"
chxheart 2 months ago
Why is the photography on Brit documentaries so bad?? The music and bands are always the best, but you can count on the pictures being drab, lifeless, uncreative, and almost boring.
powergirl901 6 months ago
@powergirl901 tradition my dear....pip pip
needaman66 1 month ago
Excellent video. Thanks!
jimmygster 8 months ago
GONNA USE MY FINGERRRRRRRRRRRRRRZZZ!!!!!!
SneakyDastard 10 months ago
Nena is better fakt. Remember kino auf wiedersehn and das mega hit 99 luft ballons
MrBigbelly49 11 months ago
I am wondering
eworldplaza 1 year ago
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eworldplaza 1 year ago
define real talent - beautiful vocals with a mic in on hand and a cigarette on the other. Beautiful
papiiuenvy186 1 year ago
What beautiful voicings from the Honeyman!
ddactyl 1 year ago
No. There's something wrong with the sound on this video..at 2:55 it dips.and the whole thing may be 1/2 step slow..nit tuned down.....
mrpentium 1 year ago
the guitarist used to live just up the road from my house, i think that may be why there are so many guitarists here
wxdanwx 1 year ago
chrissy hynde hates this song, saw her say that on some interview
marktwain4 1 year ago
Sometimes you just use your imagination.
mlpuppies 1 year ago
even out of tune this song sounds good by the pretenders--probly when it was transferred from tape the video was slow so that's why it's all out of tune. too bad she smokes. always liked the pretenders. so many big singers are smokers. vetter, hynde, robert plant... too bad. anyway i always liked her unique voice.
sabaqat 1 year ago
@sabaqat It is at the same tempo as the standard track; Jimmy Scott and Farndon are tuned down a half step, a common practice to make it sound ballsier and also to make it easier if the singer is having trouble hitting the high notes. If the tempo were slower, I would say it was slowed down, but it is the same. It is the tuning. For this tune, the low E string of the bass guitar is tuned down a whole step to D, so when you add the half-step detune to that, it really sounds low, D flat
acbulgin2 1 year ago
@acbulgin2 that is VERY interesting about the tuning--I did not know they did that. i might try that... but i disagree about the tuning of the song, it is out of tune, it sounds wrong. you may not be old enough to remember what a cassette or video tape sounds like when it's wound too tight. There is another similar video, a smiths song, that just sounds terrible and people are criticizing johnny marr saying he's an idiot and can't tune his guitar but i'm sure it's because of the tape quality.
sabaqat 1 year ago
@sabaqat Yes I am quite old enough to remember tape decks and LP's (I'm 44). And yes, there can be video and audio tape speed variations that cause pitch variations (it's called "wow"). Additionally, this is obviously an off-the-cuff live rendition of the song. Chrissie is having real problems reaching the notes (maybe it's the stupid cigarette). Notice the first "gonna make you, make you, make you notice" part. She is grabbing at her throat as it it were sore, which it probably was.
acbulgin2 1 year ago
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acbulgin2 1 year ago
@sabaqat It also sounds "wrong" because, aside from the half-step down tuning, it is not the finished, produced, overdubbed, mixed and mastered track we all heard on the record and the radio.Notice that the E11 chord on the Fender Rhodes electric piano is missing on the "I gotta have some of your attention, give it to me." parts. It's on the finished, official track. One of the greatest rock albums of all time. It had it all. I bought it the moment it became available. I think I was 13.
acbulgin2 1 year ago
@acbulgin2 wow we're about the same age. i used to love the pretenders and the cars, those were the first bands i used to like... anyway who really cares about the tuning of some song performed 20 years ago, definitely not worth arguing over. ok take care
sabaqat 1 year ago
@sabaqat There is no argument, I was just explaining perhaps why it might have sounded "wrong" to you. There is no question Jimmy and Pete are tuned down a half-step. Any guitar player with perfect pitch or a pitch reference like a tuned guitar or tuner will tell you. They were just messin'. Havin' fun, and notice that guitar jam in the middle of this version is not even on the official one. I think it sounds cool, almost Rush-like or perhaps Van Halenesque. Yes Cars great.
acbulgin2 1 year ago
@acbulgin2 You're right about the de-tuning. My guess is Chrissie was having trouble with her voice that night. Notice how she kind of squeaks out the highest notes. And sounds a little forced.
jimmyfrench 1 year ago
@jimmyfrench she needs a spanking for smokeing that cigarette
spacepatrolman 1 year ago
That's cool how Chryssie smokes her cigarette during the guitar solo.
brothertee1017 1 year ago
attention it is on the chart but still said it say the words pocket
twinchihuahuas 1 year ago
she,s the sexiest woman alive
coxhoe789 1 year ago
Chrissy HYNDE : Uber rock chick !!! She has it all...
essertpitay 1 year ago
Pity whoever loaded this didn't read the title properly. It's pocket not pockets. Best song they ever did though (IMO)
meridenmetal 1 year ago
James Honeyman Scott RIP. I get very sad when I listen to the guitar solo in Lovers of Today. Such a terrible, terrible shame. I'll always think of him as one of the greatest.
RealMusicLover1972 1 year ago
Without a doubt, had Jim Scott and Peter survived the early 80s they would still be huge today. It was the combination of the 4 that made the band so great. Chrissy still does great stuff but isn't consistent
suffra2 1 year ago
what a great "souvenir" !!!! still so good
Blardoni2 2 years ago
musically this is fantastic
ThoseDirtyFeckers 2 years ago
i just love this song and this is an awesome version
thanks so much for sharing it:)
rockabillychickee 2 years ago 3
@rockabillychickee check into a devotion it is class and school will make the test always so way cheap cool
twinchihuahuas 1 year ago
On the issue single Iam sure Chrissy is playing Rhythm Guitar, it sounds like it can anyone enlighten me.
25ghr 2 years ago
super!! I love this song! =)
dandarknes19 2 years ago
I don't think anyone ever accused Hynde of being an excellent singer however her VOICE was awesome and meshed with the tunes to an extent that is just not seen anymore.
JimmyVolmer 2 years ago 11
I accuse her of being an excellent singer. Maybe not in this but, check out songs like 'Happy Christmas' or 'One More Time'
She's got a voice of gold.
berettadreams 2 years ago
Too young for cigaret, too young to die...forget it...try to be older...don't be in a hurry...
bozara777 2 years ago
I love this song, Chrissie Hynde rules
mescalia 2 years ago 2
this song is amazing
thrilllerlover 2 years ago 8
got brass
in pocket
got bottle, i/m gonna use it
intention, i feel inventive on a make you, make you make you notice
ha, ha...
jcdab15 2 years ago
nice
tuttifrutti2705 2 years ago
This is the song that introduced me to the Pretenders..almost 30 years ago. Been a fan ever since. It was one of the first videos shown on MTV also. Can't seem to find that video anywhere.
gtc1961 2 years ago
yes Chrissy you are special......so special!!
Excellent song ,great performance by top musicians!
thank you!
josepolo950 2 years ago 3
love this song. have ever since it first came out and even after all these years....... fantastic
theoni2002 2 years ago 2
I just saw them in concert this week in Tulsa! They were so good!
terricarrier 2 years ago
Gotta love the cigarette in hand, too cool Chrissie.
tpmh37 2 years ago
darn. was hoping to catch her puff in between verses :D
denim98 2 years ago
Man, thanks for posting this, really enjoyed it!!!
furyofbongos 2 years ago 2
Leona D You played this song till it wore the needle out.... and me....I will always remember our years together then... great times .. thank god I didn't marry you...
Bunty1962 2 years ago
great song, I love her voice
perriziapcl 3 years ago 4
omg thats a girl?
tjyff 2 years ago
-______-U
syx84 2 years ago
i'm special, so special ...............
lustewart77 3 years ago 3
WOW!!!!!!!!!!!
starbuckita 3 years ago 3
Great solid P Bass sound.
backthisway 3 years ago 3
RAW! Awesome I cant stop coming back to this video! Thanks.
ppalaz1 3 years ago
Oh, how I admired Chrissie!
She´s so talented and really
SO SPECIAL!
rdamh 3 years ago
HAPPY TIMES in Edinburgh,,,,,,
rainbowcrazyfreak 3 years ago
THE SINGER IS SEXY.
jazz352 3 years ago 2
wait...what year was this. 1979 or something???
chrissiehyndefan 3 years ago 2
I LOVE THIS SONG.
jazz352 3 years ago
yeah, thereabouts.
woodie1964 3 years ago
dag, never seen anyone smoke and sing at the same time
earlymtv 3 years ago 3
damn that girl was singing with a cigarette
papiiuenvy186 3 years ago 4
This has been flagged as spam show
yeah i don't like that
gutchman84 3 years ago
wHAT A PITY THE TWO GUYS DIED FROM drugs!!
rogcuadra 4 years ago 4
This is soooooo hot! I'm gonna try this song on my lone acoustic ... (scream).. Chrissie is great... the whole band is awesome!!! Peace, ~Sharon
sharbohemia 4 years ago
Awesome... -Z
Eckzachly 4 years ago
She was a smoker and she was born sept 1951
ppalaz1 4 years ago
Chrissie was born September 20,1948.
ghostchantxx 4 years ago
1951
ppalaz1 4 years ago
Chrissie Hynde isn't a smoker.
ghostchantxx 4 years ago
not anymore
ppalaz1 4 years ago
Nice performance, miserably photographed. Too dark; camera three miles away on the longer shots. Pity.
dharmabums320 4 years ago
I love the cheap raw production. If they had a budget for a couple steadycams and a director it would have been a slickly edited lip-synced piece of crap. I LOVE IT! Unlike the Grammys, an actual real performance.
MACpro58 4 years ago 4
You raise a good point, but I'm not persuaded that the two possibilities you set forth are the only ones. I've seen lots of footage that conveys the gritty realness you value and yet is also well-photographed. And I don't see what lip-syncing has to do with anything. Anyhow, we don't get to see a lot of video of the late lamented Pete and James, and I wish that what we do have were more expertly shot.
dharmabums320 4 years ago
No those aren't the only two, but if they were, i would take this one. It makes me feel like you're a fly on the wall in their rehearsal, rather than an audience member of a show. It just feels like the inside scoop. Just like it's fun to see outakes from movies.
MACpro58 4 years ago
Yeah, I can definitely agree with that. Enjoy!
dharmabums320 4 years ago
man, i love that girl.
palarjones 4 years ago
great video. Just as i remember them. Wonder if Chrissie is still smoking or like the rest of us old farrts has given up for fear of dyin too young. What happened the two players who passed away...drat, I like to think they are all immortal.
missremorse 4 years ago
Chrissy in all her beauty.
canucksnoise 4 years ago
Really amazing how much this little country has contributed to the world in the field of music/entertainment
wank0r 4 years ago
shes from Ohio
suninmyhair 4 years ago
Its like Echo Beach 1980, a track that stays with you forever, thanks
cisco9x 4 years ago
Great to see Martin Chambers' two tone kit. Is it me, or do they start this a bit slow?
SONOR4 4 years ago
this is better than the music vid cause its all really them performing the way they would
64willis 4 years ago
wow, this is awesome
davidmjeong926 4 years ago
I love this song to bits. Thanks for posting. Fantastic Pretenders.
Glorify27 4 years ago
I have this on VHS. It's called British Rock.
pinkBEAT1 4 years ago
that's a great vid. Chrissie smoking!!! WOW LOVE LOVE LOVE & thanx to whoever put this here :-)
BeeRubble 4 years ago
ummmm anyone seen the 977 website? the video on there of this os good...same thing just without the silly man at the beginning....aaaahhhh its just timeless...
bollockstobebo 4 years ago
I've seen clips of this in various Prenteders docs. It's obviously form some UK TV show in 1979 or '80. Does anyone have the full length version of this program?
SkeeterNYC 4 years ago
Pete Farndon was too cool. He tunes his low string to D for this song.
bassfiddlesteve 4 years ago
jungs,don't forget that Pete Fardon was there too
oleshatterbutt 4 years ago
WOW!! Thanks for the vid. James Honeyman-Scott did rule!!
ghm113 5 years ago
James Honeyman Scott is absolutely brilliant. I wish he was around for a lot longer than he was. Think of the possibilities. A true LEGEND.
local27 5 years ago
fantastic that turned back the clock
stephenj4995 5 years ago
anyone know where this is from?
lostlanguage 5 years ago