if u're a dream theater and anthrax fan then you should know that they're playing dt and anthrax songs.. plus some zeppelin. this is not random banging.
Pair of fine drummers, however - please dont get your favourite drummer confused with who is actually the best, there are numerous players out their who are technically superior to both - I really dont think JoJo Mayer, Thomas Lang or Gavin Harrison will be shitting themselves in fear when watching Mike or Charlie.
I love Mike Portnoy, not only because of his great drumming but also because of his personality. Cool, down-to-earth guy, always speaking nicely about the bands that influenced him.
i disagree about dave and steve smith but buddy rich is good 2 and maybe for taste stewart copeland? come on dude there is so many don't single(in this case triple lol) out those three
i won't make comparisons for this video , benante is one of the first drummers who popularised the "beat blast " he is a great metal and rock drummer (ps : he is my favorite drummer cause i love anthrax !!! (favorite band to )) but i must definitely say that portnoy can play much different styles ( sry for my english i m french )
I don't care who's better, I love these players both! And both Dream Theater and Anthrax! This video is cool, I would have pay a lot to see that LIVE!
ehhh..... no. they dont. however, they are close. i know bernante popularized the blast and whatnot, but portnoy revolutionized metal drumming by almost single-handedly (w/ some influence from rush and styx) incorporated prog drumming into it. benante doesnt come close to that.
youre definitely right, but you should know that many drummers consider portnoy to be one of the most revolutionary drummers ever. kinda just putting that obvious little piece of info out there...
im honestly surprised that you cant think of one... maybe drummers like kirch, jarzombek, bittner, and any other prog metal drummer out there. he was really the first drummer to incorporate funk and jazz into metal. before you decide to make another overly confident smartass remark, just do us all a favor and look it up.
all of this coming from a "drummer" who can barely even keep time...
dude, portnoy has chops. portnoy has funky beats. portnoy is the most recognized prog drummer in the drumming community. you can dissect my argument all you like, but manipulating someones words. what im ultimately saying is that portnoys style is unique. can you stomach that? can you deal w/ these facts, or are you gonna whip out another music history lesson i already knew? get a clue dude. portnoys a drum god.
Tell me what's funky about his playing. There are no Funk elements. Just because he has his grooves does not mean he plays in a Funk style.
Neil Peart is the most recognized Prog drummer, not Portnoy.
If you knew your shit about "music history" you wouldn't be arguing these facts in the first place. What he's playing was done long before him. Portnoy even admitted that himself when he stated that everything they've done was already done by Fates Warning.
goddamn you seem to know about drumming and everything about everything in general. ill bet youre one of those douches who will argue the meaning of life.
he INCORPORATES funk and jazz elements. incorporating and solely playing are two completely different aspects. you could easly say that thats what makes prog prog.
ok for one where the hell did he admit that. i didnt get any email. i havent seen any articles, interviews, or magazines that say that anywhere. lets see it.
Ok, what elements of Funk does he incorporate? Simply groovy playing won't suffice.
On the 2005 expanded edition rerelease of Fates Warning's Awaken the Guardian Mike Portnoy said this in the liner notes: "very often fans and critics credit Dream Theater for creating a whole new genre of progressive metal music in the late '80s/early '90s, . . . but the truth is Fates Warning were doing it years before us."
...yeah some groves such as his take on the one drop when he throws it into 7/8 w/ some 16ths and 32nds on the hats definitely do the trick. you know your music history, ill give you that, but your pseudo knowledge of drums is about as deep as ive ever seen. minimal incorporation of classic time sigs and chops can definitely lend credence enough to classify him as a funky and jazzy metal drummer.
see, thats deff. the reason why i didnt know that. he hasnt made some huge public statement.
Anything that simply grooves or moves isn't exactly Funk playing. Funk playing is often fat, played at mid tempo, and is chock-full of syncopation and off-beat accents. Funk is very close to Jazz, but what I hear in Portnoy is more a Jazz influence than Funk.
What exactly are you referencing with "the one drop"? Are you talking about the rhythm in Bob Marley's song One Drop?
Portnoy is the guy that can cover all those bands (and Dream Theater does) Benante is the guy who drums the crap out of practically every metal drummer.
he covers a song by portnoy, thats why, portnoy has better drum parts in Dream Theater, Benante's drumming in Anthrax is no where close to Portnoy's in Dream Theater
dude they are freakin awesome way better than joey jordison lol they should add on to it and add two more drummers on it dave lombardo and lars ulrich lol have a 4 man drum set
I was at this show! Dream Theater's 20th anniversary tour, they played for like 2 and a half hours straight, ended with Learning to Live! They started playing Slayer in the middle of this solo! Effin' Aye!
oooo sorry i was going off of mike portnoys dvd "in constant motion" they have this vid, but charlie and mike play stockholm syndrome as their last, after 6:00. do u know what it is they play before 6:00?
My goodness!, such a rare ocasion to see these two masters gangbang those drums really nice but with this video you don't actually see them even playing!!! anyone got a link to see one working? or am I missing somekind of codec??? or what!!!
hey guuys can someone tell me pleaseee..... what song is the one played at.... 3:26??' ThAnKs!!
marty182fuck 2 years ago
the song is called 6:00. from the cd awake, by dream theater
sebgonviz 2 years ago
QUE BIEN...
vezok200 2 years ago
im sorry cos i say this but to me that just seems like random banging...im huge dream theater and anthrax fan but thats what i think
progressivellica 2 years ago
if u're a dream theater and anthrax fan then you should know that they're playing dt and anthrax songs.. plus some zeppelin. this is not random banging.
pedrodaniel13 2 years ago
6:00 on a cristmas morn
Zeratol001 2 years ago
hahaha, jordan didn't practice a lot for his 6:00
hellskitchen123 2 years ago
great drummers! great people! great musicians!.........see htose guys playing makes me feel good.
Sarklord 2 years ago
0-1
nfsrf 2 years ago
Pair of fine drummers, however - please dont get your favourite drummer confused with who is actually the best, there are numerous players out their who are technically superior to both - I really dont think JoJo Mayer, Thomas Lang or Gavin Harrison will be shitting themselves in fear when watching Mike or Charlie.
am1933 2 years ago
probably 2 o th top 10 drummers o al-time
pinksmithfloyd 2 years ago
Indians is one of my favourite song
eragraphix 2 years ago
I would start jacking at 2:58 too just like you did
sman865 2 years ago
dam i just want them to continue playing six o clock, suck a frigan awesome song
3bertface01 2 years ago 2
That song is Indians, buy Anthrax. That is why Charlie smiles, it is his groove. The song is on Among the Living.
magnum09 2 years ago
why wie should buy anthrax xD
drumcoverer 2 years ago
Can anyone tell me the song at 2:51? Thanks!
tiredoftypical 2 years ago
that ''guy is charley benante.
he used to play in s.o.d and still plays in anthrax!
fucking hero!
AkkeRmaDmaN 2 years ago
is this guy his apprentice or something?
rob6van1dam9 2 years ago
Both geniuseseseses.
vandal2k6 2 years ago
what Funny drum battle charlie playing dream theater patern and mike playing anthrax patern songs. :) nice video. great drummers.
PogressiveDrummer 2 years ago
both amazing drummers
ImperiledEyes07 2 years ago
Fuck Dream Theater!
Anthrax Rules!
Thrashedbilly 2 years ago
Fuck Anthrax!
Dream Theater rules!
psychoxs 2 years ago
fuck you
anthrax are thrash gods
dream theather prog gods
knrrafriki 2 years ago 7
You're right... I was just mad 'cause he said "Fuck Dream Theater" :). I actually gave a thumbs up too your comment ;)
psychoxs 2 years ago
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Fuck Dream Theater
KissMeImPunk 2 years ago
Fuck you
VFoVendetta 2 years ago
I love how Charlie starts to play 6:00 and then the band joins in!
MephistosCafeManager 2 years ago
the video is clearly not six minutes long. What are you doing?
silversnakeseven 2 years ago
Its a Dream Theater song, off of awake.
MephistosCafeManager 2 years ago
Haha, this is great!
GeorgeWheeler 2 years ago
2:30 is Frankenstein lol.
BagXY2 2 years ago
Amazing stuff from two of Rock or metals best drummers. Love the way Charile dose the intro to Rock 'N' roll. Brilliant stuff from two of my heroes.
paulwall1981 2 years ago
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jonmstar1 2 years ago
Both drummers are great!
I love Mike Portnoy, not only because of his great drumming but also because of his personality. Cool, down-to-earth guy, always speaking nicely about the bands that influenced him.
camelius 2 years ago
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Just because you are in love with Portnoy, that doesn't make him the best drummer in the world.
This discussion is endless, because its just a matter of opinions.
One Fact: Steve Gadd, Steve Smith and Dave Weckl kick both Benante and Portnoy's asses in any style of music.
PiratesofHelmond 2 years ago
i disagree about dave and steve smith but buddy rich is good 2 and maybe for taste stewart copeland? come on dude there is so many don't single(in this case triple lol) out those three
whoareyou134 2 years ago
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There are dozens of better drummers, i just mentioned three.
PiratesofHelmond 2 years ago
I like all drummers that u mentioned. But my fav drummer as BAND DRUMMER not solo is Mike, b/c he sounds awesome with Dream Theater. End of topic! I
slivovich 2 years ago
If someone can give me the titles of the songs and the times, i'll insert it with captions so nobody has to ask again
sikory 2 years ago
Both FUCKING amazing drummers
homebrewe 2 years ago
Q F T ! ! ! :)
refractorhead 2 years ago
i won't make comparisons for this video , benante is one of the first drummers who popularised the "beat blast " he is a great metal and rock drummer (ps : he is my favorite drummer cause i love anthrax !!! (favorite band to )) but i must definitely say that portnoy can play much different styles ( sry for my english i m french )
arrackattack 2 years ago
LOL
50 ways to leave your lover,
Frankenstein...
amazing!
hungryhungryhippo77 2 years ago
I don't care who's better, I love these players both! And both Dream Theater and Anthrax! This video is cool, I would have pay a lot to see that LIVE!
sorakklaflamme 2 years ago
That's your opinion.
So who the hell are you?
Accomplishments of Benante exceed those of Portnoy.
PiratesofHelmond 2 years ago
ehhh..... no. they dont. however, they are close. i know bernante popularized the blast and whatnot, but portnoy revolutionized metal drumming by almost single-handedly (w/ some influence from rush and styx) incorporated prog drumming into it. benante doesnt come close to that.
THEpearldrummer 2 years ago
Uh, no.
Portnoy, himself, has even said that Fates Warning is the band that did it all first.
sonorpaiste702 2 years ago
youre definitely right, but you should know that many drummers consider portnoy to be one of the most revolutionary drummers ever. kinda just putting that obvious little piece of info out there...
THEpearldrummer 2 years ago
Name them.
Portnoy hasn't done anything new or groundbreaking.
sonorpaiste702 2 years ago 2
im honestly surprised that you cant think of one... maybe drummers like kirch, jarzombek, bittner, and any other prog metal drummer out there. he was really the first drummer to incorporate funk and jazz into metal. before you decide to make another overly confident smartass remark, just do us all a favor and look it up.
THEpearldrummer 2 years ago
Bullshit.
The Jarzombek brothers were doing Prog long before DT came about. Watchtower is pretty much the first Prog Metal band ever.
There are no Funk elements in Portnoy's playing.
Arguably the first Jazzy Metal drummer is Bill Ward, drummer for Sabbath.
Bittner doesn't play Prog.
Mark Zonder played Prog before Portnoy, and he played in Fates Warning.
Ricky Colacula of Watchtower was playing Prog Metal before Dream Theater was even formed.
sonorpaiste702 2 years ago 2
all of this coming from a "drummer" who can barely even keep time...
dude, portnoy has chops. portnoy has funky beats. portnoy is the most recognized prog drummer in the drumming community. you can dissect my argument all you like, but manipulating someones words. what im ultimately saying is that portnoys style is unique. can you stomach that? can you deal w/ these facts, or are you gonna whip out another music history lesson i already knew? get a clue dude. portnoys a drum god.
THEpearldrummer 2 years ago
Tell me what's funky about his playing. There are no Funk elements. Just because he has his grooves does not mean he plays in a Funk style.
Neil Peart is the most recognized Prog drummer, not Portnoy.
If you knew your shit about "music history" you wouldn't be arguing these facts in the first place. What he's playing was done long before him. Portnoy even admitted that himself when he stated that everything they've done was already done by Fates Warning.
sonorpaiste702 2 years ago 2
goddamn you seem to know about drumming and everything about everything in general. ill bet youre one of those douches who will argue the meaning of life.
he INCORPORATES funk and jazz elements. incorporating and solely playing are two completely different aspects. you could easly say that thats what makes prog prog.
ok for one where the hell did he admit that. i didnt get any email. i havent seen any articles, interviews, or magazines that say that anywhere. lets see it.
THEpearldrummer 2 years ago
Ok, what elements of Funk does he incorporate? Simply groovy playing won't suffice.
On the 2005 expanded edition rerelease of Fates Warning's Awaken the Guardian Mike Portnoy said this in the liner notes: "very often fans and critics credit Dream Theater for creating a whole new genre of progressive metal music in the late '80s/early '90s, . . . but the truth is Fates Warning were doing it years before us."
sonorpaiste702 2 years ago
...yeah some groves such as his take on the one drop when he throws it into 7/8 w/ some 16ths and 32nds on the hats definitely do the trick. you know your music history, ill give you that, but your pseudo knowledge of drums is about as deep as ive ever seen. minimal incorporation of classic time sigs and chops can definitely lend credence enough to classify him as a funky and jazzy metal drummer.
see, thats deff. the reason why i didnt know that. he hasnt made some huge public statement.
THEpearldrummer 2 years ago
Anything that simply grooves or moves isn't exactly Funk playing. Funk playing is often fat, played at mid tempo, and is chock-full of syncopation and off-beat accents. Funk is very close to Jazz, but what I hear in Portnoy is more a Jazz influence than Funk.
What exactly are you referencing with "the one drop"? Are you talking about the rhythm in Bob Marley's song One Drop?
sonorpaiste702 2 years ago
I was there.
Don't mean to brag or anything, just saying...
AMAZING.
KoryWB 2 years ago
rock and roll cover at about 1:40 was awesome. bonham ftw
jtizz94 2 years ago
that rendition of 6:00 by the guest drummer was awesome!
Da7xT 2 years ago
And so does Vinnie Paul.
PiratesofHelmond 2 years ago
Lars is a fun drummer, not a great drummer, there are few drummers like portnoy or peart that are both amazing and fun to listen to on there own.
joycemaster14 2 years ago
Portnoy is the guy that can cover all those bands (and Dream Theater does) Benante is the guy who drums the crap out of practically every metal drummer.
Lars Ulrich is a little kid compared to Charlie
PiratesofHelmond 2 years ago 7
stop complaining about lars' drumming we get it we can see that
TrashMojo 2 years ago
Someones touchy
MetalKeys205 2 years ago 2
dont forget dave lombardo
ak47dragunov 2 years ago
Benante deffinately wins
PiratesofHelmond 2 years ago
he covers a song by portnoy, thats why, portnoy has better drum parts in Dream Theater, Benante's drumming in Anthrax is no where close to Portnoy's in Dream Theater
joycemaster14 2 years ago
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Still Benante is a much better drummer.
Portnoy is overrated.
And Steve Smith kicks all their asses.
PiratesofHelmond 2 years ago
It's a duet, not a battle. Portnoy is immortal, and therefor cannot lose even if they WERE battling.
SchizoNinja 2 years ago 2
Hmph. I can do that by myself. XD
judahhertz 2 years ago
Anthrax tune called "Indians"
From "Among the Living," methinks...
kansasaxeslinger 2 years ago
Whats the song around the 3 min mark
MetalFanatic600 2 years ago
The part at 1:38 sounds familiar to me...Which song is this from?
PrinzScheissenherz 2 years ago
Rock and Roll - Led Zeppelin
Trecoooool16 2 years ago
funny how the drummers from the bands of the thrash four have all progressed technically except lars ulrich oh well hes still awesome
tjthebest7 2 years ago 8
so true lol
PepDrumLow 2 years ago
they look like good friends
GREIVINGDEATH 2 years ago 2
the beat at 1.52 reminds me of 50 ways to leave your lover. is that the song?
Insectamongus 2 years ago
Just great seeing to dudes, having fun,together, no competion, just JAMM!
Busaridermazz 2 years ago 3
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dream theater is the worst band ever. who listens to that garbage?
MyCatChuck 2 years ago
blasphemy
Raiderfan123 2 years ago
well, you don't but many people around the world do.
They're not garbage. At least they're better than slipknot and Avenged Sevenfold.
And crap like trivium.
COBHC279 2 years ago
OH MY GOD fuckin Benante playin 6;00 that was unexpected and totally awesome.
fuzzo73 2 years ago 3
lars ulrich!!! ha, hed never fucking keep up. so untalented
ajhturnbull 2 years ago
dude they are freakin awesome way better than joey jordison lol they should add on to it and add two more drummers on it dave lombardo and lars ulrich lol have a 4 man drum set
slayerfanslayer 2 years ago
Thats awesome how they did a cover of eachother's material...
lagunaj91 2 years ago 4
No one beats Portnoy.
Hex3d 2 years ago 2
...Except for Sean Reinert.
KissMeImPunk 2 years ago 2
i soooo wanna go on tht kit, can't wait to see dream theater in june!
\m/\m/
tmbmusic575 2 years ago
SAME!!!!!
DimeBenDarrell 2 years ago
Oh my gooooood!!!! They're god!!!!!!!!!!
Karpecek 2 years ago
This was effin sweet. I liked Charlie before, but this solidifies his mad skills!
funkinthechili 2 years ago 3
woot fkn awsom
nornic 2 years ago
Two of the best drummers alive right here
HookInMouth999 2 years ago 3
not even close.
KissMeImPunk 2 years ago
Incredible. The two of them together just flying but in sync. Terrific stuff!
smegweevil 2 years ago 3
what is the song played at 3:51
SOTD86 2 years ago
Dream Theater - 6:00
; )
Osolepro 2 years ago
It's "six o' clock" by dream theater
MisteriosaMente1 2 years ago 4
Charlie fucking pwns
xXJoshyNightmareXx 3 years ago 2
is the frame ratio slower then the audio? It doesnt seem to be synced?
OwnedByMoomin 3 years ago 3
ok, just listened to the entire thing, definitely not the one I was at, hahahaha, but still damn good.
muribry 3 years ago
I was at this show! Dream Theater's 20th anniversary tour, they played for like 2 and a half hours straight, ended with Learning to Live! They started playing Slayer in the middle of this solo! Effin' Aye!
muribry 3 years ago
I was there.
I WAS THERE!
So fucking nuts, my head blew up, I swear.
KoryWB 3 years ago 5
It's Anthrax Indians dingaling....classic mosh staple. (2:51)
str8bttr 3 years ago 3
I like the 'Rock and Roll,' little section in there. And the 'Frankenstein,' section.
thrashkillpunk 3 years ago
what is the song played at 2:51
NoMoREMO212 3 years ago
what is the last song they play?!?!?! JESUS i cant find it
soccerdude6355 3 years ago
6:00 By Dream Theater on the album Awake (one of my favs =D)
Rupnok420 3 years ago
no its not 6:00 its stockholm syndrome... i just found that out
soccerdude6355 3 years ago
stockholm syndrome is a song by muse. im 100% positive that the last song they play is "6:00". listen to the song you'll see.
Rupnok420 3 years ago
oooo sorry i was going off of mike portnoys dvd "in constant motion" they have this vid, but charlie and mike play stockholm syndrome as their last, after 6:00. do u know what it is they play before 6:00?
soccerdude6355 3 years ago
Indians by Anthrax, I didn't know it myself either, but this vid is posted by another user but with working image, I asked it there some time ago ;-)
leftpassenger 3 years ago
... e tutti a casa .....
porcozz 3 years ago
My goodness!, such a rare ocasion to see these two masters gangbang those drums really nice but with this video you don't actually see them even playing!!! anyone got a link to see one working? or am I missing somekind of codec??? or what!!!
georgie6699 3 years ago
Whats the last song they play??
Metal55676 3 years ago
Whats the last song they play??
Metal55676 3 years ago
uuh is it just me or somethings wrong with the vid?
julesickdrums 3 years ago
Both drummers are insanely awesome
HeavyMetal0514 3 years ago 2