Riz Khan - Islam in Malaysia - 08 Aug 07

[21mij]

Assalamualikum , people the Kuffars are mocking the Qur'an in Pornography!

please no kids please , only strong minded adults -

website - xxxhorror . c o m the devil woman -sophie dee

pls stop them!

[Denaeize]

Iam not Malaysian but i do believe Malaysia has right to protect their religion because of the rise of non-Muslim population i mean 40% is a lot their country might me taken by hindus or christians in the future and they cant let that happen.

[mattcase9]

@Denaeize ur not Malaysian and what u said is pure bullshit...

and dnt be pissed coz i have the right to comment on what u said... and I AM MALAYSIAN.

[Denaeize]

@mattcase9 you are right you have right to comment and i am not mad at you

[makatogonzo]

I think this video at 07:10 highlights that Malaysian Muslims like Haji Suleiman Abdullah think that their religion is perfect and universal and that non muslims MUST share in that belief. I think that is very self fish.

Malaysia has a 2 court system. If it was truly an Islamic state then there would only be one.

[nazifdaniel]

secular is separation between church and relegious we malaysia dont have church govern.....

we have sultan as our leader so we are islam country

[mattcase9]

@nazifdaniel wrong the sultan doesnt run the country his just a figure head..

[Subjectivist]

Malaysia is a secular state! .....or should be. :p

[javed119]

yes u right my brother if they dont like islam and muslims the immgrents should go back where the came from.

[kooupm11]

@javed119

yes, you should go back to indonesian.

[lancelot14992]

@javed119 yes dude if you don't like it please feel free to return to indo

[nogocologne]

In Malaysia haben muslimische Fanatiker Brandanschläge auf 3 christliche Kirchen verübt. Im Hintergrund steht ein Gerichtsurteil über Allah: Nachdem Christen ursprünglich verboten worden war, Gott als Allah das arabische Wort für Gott allgemein anzusprechen , hat ein Gericht diesen Sprachgebrauch jetzt erlaubt.

Dies ist für Moslems äußerst beleidigend. Sie demonstrierten: „Allah ist nur für uns! und mussten ihrer Empörung mit dem in Brand Setzen von Kirchen Ausdruck verleihen.

[TakiyahYeira]

If nonMuslims don't like it they should move out of Malaysia.

[Dicopsy]

Muslims must move out of the world and go back to hell.

Islam is a disgusting religion, the muslim god is the devil.

Your prophet mahomet was a pedophile, a murderer, an incestuous. He was an epileptic, a pathological liar.

Where muslim are, the shit is.

Your islam was created by jews, your haddits come from the jewish talmud.

[doldas1]

@Dicopsy - i think you don't have any idea what islam is. go to school, college or what so ever and learn, dude.

[salamsumasuma]

@Dicopsy: may i know why u so angry to Muslim and Islam... i dont know if ur angry is based on stupidity or craziness on something...

[hasnasal]

@TakiyahYeira

ooi takiyah... if muslim dont like it they should go back to the jungle...

[freeview2010]

Takiyah Yeida sorry man you are not a true muslim just another uneducated nut case hiding behind the good name of Allah.You can foul your malay friends but not Allah.

[TakiyahYeira]

Allahu Akbar! Assalaamu Alaykum to all Malaysian Muslims.

[hasnasal]

@TakiyahYeira

oiii... apa yang kao laong ni. Macan takde otak... malu lah macam ni orang islam!!

[megatown]

YOu will not sell your beloved child fucker barbar as the right example [ARCHETYPE] for a healthy mankinds future, since he is certainly the last one to fit such requirements !!!

[pisang179]

how about womens rights? Do islam give equal right to women as much as man do? I think no.

[salamsumasuma]

i dont know if equal in non muslim meaning is: if when women wear bikini, men also wear bikini... when men wear short, women also wear short...

it is your meaning for equal. right???

stupid...

[hasnasal]

@salamsumasuma

Yes I am muslim... I want both man and woman naked. You have to look beyond bikini bro...

[hasnasal]

@pisang179

Actualy they have more rights. Woman can wear gold and silk but muslim mn can't.

[doldas1]

@pisang179 -islam is protecting woman actually. u need to get a deep understanding on what islam is about rather than just jump into conclusion about what you've heard from someone else or the media. try to consult an islamic scholar and they will tell you what islam is about. another thing is forgive me and my fellow muslims for not practicing islam as a whole. its not the religion but its our fault. we believe that islam is a perfect religion. we the one who might make islam look imperfect.

[muslimwhacker]

@doldas1 "The male shall have the equal of the portion of two females" (see also verse 4:176).

Qur'an (2:282) - (Court testimony) "And call to witness, from among your men, two witnesses. And if two men be not found then a man and two women."

[tuitionlah]

malaysian plz dont have religion....there is only god ...no religion in the whole semesta

[megatsyazlee]

Also non-malays are telling us that we oppressed them. Chinese citizens are controlling more the 50% of the economy. Does that sounds like oppressed people? Also principles of jus soli (similar rights) are the exact reasons the malayan union was rejected and basic foundations of the independence campaign. When malay won all seats in the first election we give chairs to indian and chinese parties with the agreement that malays be given privelage. That was the agreement.

[tomohawkz]

Bro.just want 2 have a sincere conversation.I went 2 a malay school &was put into a special class just 4 the malays bcoz my name sounded muslim & i looked lik a malay & i had 5As in my UPSR. I loved it, i studied agama & wanted 2 know more about Islam.i studied 4 12yrs in depth 2 bcom a muslim but jus could not bcoz ther was no conviction within and did not seem right. This was bcoz, i jus did not merely follow my ustad/ulama but I read& investigate 2understand;warganegaramalaysi­a at gmaildotcom

[megatsyazlee]

Okay, ill try to answer this to the best of my ability. But ill try to personally msg in youtube okay. Because its gonna be long. I mean i dont mind questions and such. Ill be happy to explain. It is just when people just arbitrarily judged without any conscious thought and spew hateful remarks that i get mad. I mean come on arent we better then this.

[megatsyazlee]

Also it is part and parcel in islamic law that muslim cannot apostate. Also it is only illegal to preach to a muslim. Because muslim cannot change their religion. Now asking to change that is actually asking the muslims to change their religion. Meaning you are asking us to change what is part and parcel of islamic law. Is that fair? Do we ask non-muslim to change their religion in malaysia. Do we stop you from wearing your crosses and such.

[tomohawkz]

Bro. U r not telling the truth. The Quran clearly states" the is No Compultion"!!.4instence, If u r a man & i come up 2 u & tell u that soon u r goin 2 b pregnant & need2 buy an insurance policy, will u buy? u know the truththat naturally u will NEVER b pregnant as a man.Now, if u feel that Islam is the way of life, y r u afraid of someone coming & preachin 2 u. God has given us brains,u must read, investigate & STOP cheatin urself. At the end it only hurts u. Malaysia is not a MUSLIM State!!!

[megatsyazlee]

Thats just mean u dont understand. No Compulsion means in you are not under any duress to convert to islam. But when you do you are bound by all its tenets and law. It is like citizenship. No one would force you to become a citizen. But when you do. You cannot pick choose which law in the country that you follow. You must follow all. Thats why it is important for non-muslim to really study the religion before deciding to join. It is a lifelong commitment. .

[tomohawkz]

Sure no compulsion 2 nonmuslims. As much as u want me 2 respect ur rights 2believe in urchoice of religion,which i truely do,y cant u respect the believes of those muslims who r born into a muslim family. I beleive they still have a choice 2 choose the part they want 2 go. Example, Lina Joy, a malaysian Malay who did not convert 2 a muslim. She was born as a muslim, raised up as a muslim but after much reading, investigation she belived that this is not the right faith 4 her.don she have a right

[salamsumasuma]

@tomohawkz: what the related between pregnant and believe??? all human even non muslim or semi-crazy can answer that only women can pregnant...but Islam only Muslim can accept and believe it not like non Mulim... all human know only women can pregnant but not all people know about Islam...

[megatsyazlee]

I dont understand why non-muslim are so threaten. If is an islamic state. It doesnt effect you guys. Islamic law cannot touch you. The government are trying hard to legislate jurisdictional conflict so that you cannot be touched by it. Dhimmis or whatever are just arabic labels. It means non-muslim citizens. which you are.

[tomohawkz]

Muslims need to follow the quran and their prophet Muhammad. He fasted so you fast. he tought about jihad, so u jihad. he married a 9 yr old kid!!! whenhe was 50+. why not, those of u muslim followers who has kids are already 9 yrs old, giveme ur contact, i will personally find guys who are 50+ & wants to marry a kid for ur girl. WOW!!! Does'nt that sound SO SICK.. Thats what ur beloved prophet did. Why not u do to. Watch, soon the muslim leader will force u 2 marry ur kids to older men!!!!!!!

[megatsyazlee]

Sometimes one can be so surprised how ignorant people can be. It is futile to apply current customs and traditions to those that is in practice during the middle ages. During the time of the prophet. i.e the middle ages it is normal for girls to be married young. 12, 10 or even 9 years old. This is practiced all over the world. Perhaps you should read more on history before condemning a certain fact.

[tomohawkz]

Dont even go ther. U r talking about history. I have read the whole Quran 4 times(back 2 back). Full of contridictions. Yes I do agree with u during the middle age, people could marry at a young age. But this young age was propotioned right. Maybe a teenager/20's/ worst is 30's to a young girl that has come 2 her age. But 4 Muhammad, he had more than 22 ladies in his life.He was over 54 when he married with Siti Aishah. Does'nt that shows how pervert he was. Start investigating and read more..

[megatsyazlee]

Did u read it in arabic. are you trained in the methodology of Islamic Law. . Do you study which ayah is abrogated and which contained legalistic value and which doesnt.. Do you study the sciences of how the islamic rule is derived from the quran. No. What I am trying to say is that. I am all for difference of opinion. But at least that opinion must be formed in fair and qualified bearings. If not than it just myriad of sentences which is filled with ignorance and hate.

[tomohawkz]

There is no hatred bro. I read the Yusuf Ali translation. But just being honest. God has given humanity the ability 2 think, 2 evaluate, 2 imagine, 2 compare & contrast & then 2 come 2 conclusions based upon knowledge. This is what differentiates the faculties of human beings from the other members of the Animal Kingdom. If God can preseve the Quran, how come he could not preseve the Bible. If the revelations come from God, how come ther is hundreds of contridictions in the Quran??

[megatsyazlee]

Now i respect your opinion i do. But why dont u get it. If i can accept that you are entitled to your religion a then why can you not respect mine. What you are saying is that because just because you believe a different way then i should also believe in that way. What i am fighting for is the right for Islamic law to be applicable to muslims. As it is. But apparently just because you dont believe its true then i dont have that right?

[megatsyazlee]

Contradictions is because u dont understand. Studying the Quran means studying it in context. Why it was revealed. Where was it revealed. Is it an answer to a question or an event. Or whether it was an earlier postion. which was abrogated by more recent passage. Does it have legal effect. Also its in Arabic. Which is so very different then english. Much is lost in translation. There's a whole method to it. It is like a layman reading a very long and complex legislation they will not understand

[tomohawkz]

Contradictions is bcoz i don understand? tat is y i said earlier God hasgiven us brains 2 read & understand. Bro, don cheat urself. i don wan 2 go ther but since i don understan could u please answer this question according 2 ur understandin with context. who was the 1st muslim? how many days in the creation?6/8.which was created 1st,heaven/earth? wat was man created frm?wher is Allah&histhrone? Does Allah 4give Shirk?yes&no Wine?good/bad..Again, no hate bro.jus need 2 understan.please help...TQ

[HayImGood]

When you try to explain islam from the perspective of the west, then you get stupid terminology like secular and democracy. Democracy is not the epitome, what if 90% of people say cow can fly, democracy will take that as truth, that stupid indeed.

[megatown]

THERE IS NO EXTREME OR MODERATE ISLAM, THERE ONLY AN IMPLEMENTED [=HOUSE OF ISLAM] OR A NOT YET IMPLEMENTED ISLAM [HOUSE OF WAR].

There is only one Islam because there is only one Quran which calls jews and christians apes and pigs, there is only one quran who calls for hatred, warmonger,subjugation, discrimination, polarization,women & child discrimination, slavery, totalitarity including politics and military, since when religion cares obout politics and military, please..> SATANS WORK !

[RussiaXmuslims]

fuck muslims

[rabin46]

the korans answer to ratio= kill , hell and murder.

mohammed promoted inbreeding for a reason, he was well aware of the fact that products of inbreeding are easier to brainwash.

the muslims of today are products of 1400 years of uncles and aunts penetrating eachother, so expecting them to have the abilities needed for rational (instead of emotional) thinking is far to ambitous.

[OgmiosTube]

Welcome to compare

1. ISLAMIC ANTIVALUES [=principles of the dark] with

2.UNIVERSAL VALUES [=principles of the light]

on Ogmiostube-channel

[megatown]

ISLAM VALUES are universal values ???? =Stoning of girls in love =hanging homosexuals =child's vagina mutilation =who converts to christ: kill ! =women beating =women half value of man =child marriage =enslavement business =kill sister if in love with a non-muslim =non-muslims are 2nd class beings =women, donkeys, dogs nullify prayer =burka=hatred=violence= no human rights =Sex with animals =house of war =fascism=one unique endless shame !

[megatown]

BALANCE = STANDS OVER ALL

BALANCE = THE PRINCIPLE OF ALL PRINCIPLES

BALANCE = THE BASIS OF ALL DIVINE UNIVERSAL LAWS

BALANCE MUST BE PROTECTED AGAINST INFILTRATIONS AND TAKE OVER OF THE PRINCIPLES OF DISBALANCE

-The basis of all universal divine laws is the BALANCE !

-The basis of all evil laws is the DISBALANCE !

Pedophily is OUT OF BALANCE!

Poligamy is OUT OF BALANCE

Mohammed the "King" of pedophily, polygamy, women subjugation.

Mohammed is the "King" of DISBALANCE.

[megatown]

Tabari IX:113 Treat women well for they are like domestic animals...

[megatown]

The dog, donkey and women nullify the prayer...

[megatown]

A womens testimony is half worth that of a man [Quran 2:282]

[megatown]

Women is like a field to be used by man as he wills [Quran 2:223]

[tubmarine]

misunderstandings...

[megatown]

no misunderstanding and no misconception but exactly that what you can expect from a pedophile caravan robber, brutal warlord, instinct driven perverted individual as it was that mohammed. ONE IMMENSE UNIQUE SHAME !!!

[tubmarine]

sometimes silence is the answers for all questions... may god bless you..

[megatown]

tell this to the stoned young girls or hanged homosexuals and all those people suppressed and suffering under islamic fascism !

What an impertinence !

[tubmarine]

are you christian or what?

[megatown]

I am a human

[megatown]

Women are deficient both in mind and religion. [Bukhari. menses book 304]

[tubmarine]

misconception.....

[zakuk77]

Malaysia has the potential to become a good model for Islamic governance. It's economic model as well as social stability is a good pointer to that effect.

[cessmundock]

I think all the muslim rulers of the world must be killed. There must be a non muslim ruler in Malaysia by this there wil not be any bribe in the country

[RoGuEclaud]

Traditionally Muslims were the underdogs. I use were because they hardly are anymore. Especially when education is free and scholarships are mostly for them. Thing is their standard of living is mucho better now but scholarships are still being distributed according to that uneven quota. It's not fair.

[RoGuEclaud]

one more thing is religion in malaysia has been forced among followers. I don't think it's the same outside Malaysia. For example, when one marries a musim he or she must be muslim as in if you're not, you are forced to convert. So if people of other religion refuse for their children or grandchildren to fall in love with a muslim here can you blame them?

[RoGuEclaud]

sorry.. I meant non-followers

[malaikou]

all suck....why islam country always have war and u can see they die like a dog....why? where is allah? where is ur god? ask islam why always have war in there own country?????why why why where si god?????????????????allah??all­ah??????christian ????????where is ur mother fucker help where is ur better life???

[sizzer33]

Malik Imtiaz, smart guy..dumb fat guy, islamic values doesn't equate universal values. We have non-islams in this country.

[IntaMalsi]

in Malaysia the majority are protected and the minority are oppressed. THe majority are protected cos they are lazy and dont work hard. The minority who work hard cos they want a better life for their children are bullied.

[HayImGood]

Bull shit, you prefer to be minority like in Thailand then? Where you have to forgot your language, culture and your relative are killed by the day because you do not want to assimilate!

[IntaMalsi]

We aren't in Thailand. We don't need to copy other countries way of oppression. We need to stop oppression in our own lands first. You just proved to the whole internet world what the majority in Malaysia are like. they use foul language when none has been used against them.... way to go!

[malaikou]

malaysia are not musliam coz malay suck.........

[aimermama]

malay suck = chinese suck = india suck . all suck , (all have their own weakness.)

if malay suck ( malay government), we wont care about minority races. or other races. remember that, better we will be like thailand, just care for majority only.

[Lahore2sexy]

btw why dont u give us proof of christian charities helping muslims...all the examples u talk about none of them have helped muslims....give me proof of these people helpin muslims?

[Lahore2sexy]

well dont forget in islam we are not supposed to show off after giving charity otherwise our charity is negated....christians love to show off and tell people they are helping people....muslims silently help we have the most charities in third world countries...many more than christians and its a fact

[zetigrey]

WHERE ARE the mother TERESAS,NELSON MANDELAS,MARTIN LUTHER KINGS,GHADHIS and BUDDAHAS of the I slamic world?Where are the charties from Islamic countries towards the non -Islamic countries that are in need?Where is the humanism in Islam towards non- muslims?

[Lahore2sexy]

i dont think westerners need muslim help....we're the poorest people in the world and also because of you westerners we are in this state....btw still islamic charities are active in all non muslim countries....next time check the website of a few islamic charities websites to see the work they do in non muslim countries.

[zetigrey]

This is lot of cock and bull, a statment,without any examples,Muslim charities only help muslims and then of course collections are made for Jihad!!

[xtremeownage2]

Muslims have made the most contributions throughout history for love, humanism, peace, tolerance, equality, and charity. You would not know this, because your media has brainwashed you!

[zetigrey]

Balls!

"5.51": O you who believe! do not take the Jews and the Christians for friends; they are friends of each other; and whoever amongst you takes them for a friend, then surely he is one of them; surely Allah does not guide the unjust people.

[eziad85]

suddenly u know the quran?

[asgar87]

This is not about islam and non muslims, it is about affirmative action being given to bhami putra (people of the land) which is the first inhabitants of malaysia (not chinese or indian). cos gov b4 didnt care abt the majority, n thats why so many ethnic malays r so poor. I do agree there is corruption n not all the poor ethnic malays are benefitting. But if there are indian muslims they arent gettin preferential treatment. Stop making this a religious debate. its about majority vs minorities.

[oratorspeaker]

we non Muslims in Malaysia are living under an unofficial dhimmi status . thats the truth!the west beware your fate in the future you might be made dhimmis by islam in your own lands!

[bensjt]

one more thing..."there's no god but Allah".. i am sorry to say that Allah would have to share his/her place with Buddha, Jesus, all the other gods and deities and so on in this world... this is what we call diversity and is what make this world a beautiful place! lastly god bless malik imtiaz!

[bensjt]

all Suleiman Abdullah said was Islam this and Muslim that, come on what's next? The Great Wall of China was built by Muslims? The world does not evolves around Islam.. that's the problem with Malaysian Muslims... please look around... the two largest nations or the future most powerful nations (China and India) are not dominated by Muslims... is time for the Malay Muslim to open their mind and be flexible in order to cope with globalisation...

[oratorspeaker]

its sad that the only person fighting for non muslims in malaysia is a muslim. we should be ashamed

[2221971]

yea satisfy u'r lust & ego & give it the name of Islam.Great.

[aburebecca]

The correct interpretation of this from an islamic perspective in my judgment has to lie in between the haji and malik imtiaz's perspective, Truly Justice and Democracy are foremost, well after that come Hijab issues but nevertheless are important. There is no democracy in Malaysia, how Islam?

[nonbumianakm]

Islamization has hijacked Malaysia and violated the Constution and this subtle invasion is backed by a corrupt Barisan party, a corrupt judicary, a corrupt police and electoral system. Non-Muslim Malaysian are now facing the eradication of their human rights and the writing is on the wall....

[sirwallaby]

wow nice debate,malaysians r very good manners and well spoken ppl.

[silentsoliloquy13]

brick4sale: Indonesian Muslims are free to convert to other religions without sanctions, Malaysian Muslims do not have that opportunity. Preaching another religion to a Muslim is outlawed by most states (though probably all now, after the PM made a statement imploring those who hadn't to immediately do so).

[ahadi1982]

if researching is booring then dont assume and dont be emotional:P indonesia? is a secular state. read its constitution, especially about "panca sila". people are confused with terms Islamic state and muslim state. If you want Islamic state, none exists in the world currently so it is unfair to equate the teachings of Islam with the politics of the muslim world. thats why u shud educate then propagate rather then just blindly selling hate.

[brick4sale]

Which is a more moderate Islamic state Indonesia, or Malaysia?

[brick4sale]

What I mean is which country is more tolerant of other religions and has the less extreme views of Islam it's Malaysia right?

[evilthought]

Officially, Indonesia is a secular state (unlike Malaysia). The word Islam is not in the constitution. However, we already know there are many extremists in Indonesia too.

[Redhunt86]

indonesian films and music are definitely more liberal than those of malaysian malays. The openness and tolerance obviously pissed off the islamic extremists.

[ahadi1982]

this is to all who have made comments, research what islamic state and what does secular means then put your comments.

[fuzz767]

...but researching is soooo the boring :(

[fuzz767]

THEY DO NOT. Bullying us into accepting Islam, and reprimanding us for failing to adhere to islamic practices in the public realm is opressive and tormenting. It's so sad that the malay community in malaysia has become almost like a mad mob, pursuing and terrorizing those who do not abide by the same moral ground.The sad part is that because this mob is so large, politicians are eager to exploit their voting capabilities, and pander to their every desire.

[Redhunt86]

Ah ye to that. hopefully major cities would vote in the opposition in the elections. At least we would be able to create secular safe havens where everybody;s right are safe guarded. The current generation of politicians cannot be trusted to protect the rights of non-muslims.

[fuzz767]

malik imtiaz bring up an huge point when he mentions "imposing moral standards on others". what sulieman abdullah and ppl who think like him fail to register is the fact that they DO do this, and worst, they believe they are doing it for the benefit of the general public who are, they mistakenly assume, are in want and desperate need of their help.

[layakdog]

i agree, what's wrong with muslims today is that they believe that people can forced to be more religious. that is simply stupid. aren't people supposed to be judged by allah on what they do willingly for example wearing hijab. if the hijab is imposed as a law then it is hardly done by choice. then the whole point of willingly practicing religion is redundant.

i thought islam was about people's intentions but to me it seems to be more about force and less about personal choice.

[fuzz767]

sulieman abdullah totally got owned!! His arguments were ignorant and dated, and you can tell he's been living in this hole secured by his beliefs and where the opinions of those far removed from himself and his closed-minded gofers are NEVER taken into consideration.

[makhluq]

I went to university with Malik Imtiaz. He is obviously very articulate. He won many debating championships for his university (ironically, the International ISLAMIC University). But he has always had secular views. Personally, I think his arguments are unfounded.

[layakdog]

i disagree with you. anytime one group's ideas are considered superior to the other group's ideas, there is bound to be trouble. everyone should have the choice to follow what ever people want to follow. how can you force someone to believe in what you believe in? forcing people to abide by rules that only apply to you creates resentment. in islam all people are equal and that should be recognized in terms of making laws for a multi religious nation.

[LawrenceErnie]

Islam is not compatible with secular government.

[makhluq]

I agree. Islam in fact presents itself as an alternative to a secular government. Of course, if you believe that secularism is the yardstick against which all other systems have to be measured, you'll have a problem with Islam.

[fearless7nicku]

I'm glad that Al Jazeera is discussing this. I've been told to avoid travel to Malaysia because people fear that the religion, Islam, has taken on a dangerous role in the country that would make it unsafe for Western travelers. I still feel very ignorant on Malay culture and Islam's role in Malaysia's politics, but I'm much more interested now.

[t00muchtim3]

I didn't know there were so many Desi Muslims in Malaysia :D. Still though why can't there be secular Muslim nations? Why do some governments always hijack our religion to gradually make totalitarian states. Islamic country can be a cultural connotation but not the law of the land.

[layakdog]

since when is religion, a personal choice, a ruling body. these people who say there should be islamic laws and sharia are misguided. the ones that are even more misguided are the people who believe that there should be a caliphate. if there were such a thing i bet most leaders would be arab and the others would feel resentment. arab culture has had too much influence in islam. islam is a religion and it can be varied by culture.

[cowinafield1989]

video davo210,look for video davo210

[mimeNo9]

Very interesting show. I hope Al Jazeera has more coverage of the stories and issues affecting Southeast Asia-- Bangladesh, Burma (the plight of Burmese minorities is a hugely underreported story), Thailand, Cambodia, Vietnam, Brunei, Malaysia and Indonesia.

[msgg81]

Now its all about finding the correct balance between religion n politics which equals Harmony.

Its a model thats hard to replicate.

[mimeNo9]

It's not that hard to replicate. Modern-day Malaysia is as close to the classical Islamic caliphate in spirit than anything else in the world.

[Raggaefrog]

mimeNo9, the statement you made is not only true but it demonstrats what a sad state of affairs the Muslim world is in. May Allah help us to establish a truly Islamic country.

[layakdog]

a truly islamic state allows all religions equal status and does not show favortism. malaysia shows favortism towards malays so it is un-islamic. all people should be treated equally regardless of religion.

[megatown]

"Islam respects other religions" WHAT ???

You respect only until there is no other way. From the moment when Islam takes power everything has to be subjugated:

// Christs, Jews become dhimmis, other believers are threatened with execution the same as apostates and homosexuals, women children soppressed, press zensured, democracy and free opinion abolished, individual freedom ended.

Muslims confuse reciprocal respect with SUBJUGATION !!!

Islam ist the teaching of DESPECT!

[fuzz767]

if you believe that...then i feel sorry for you.