as a Polish wiccan, i absolutely LOVE this!!! OMG... if only, one day all slavs could return to their ancient pagan roots..if only.. FUCK Christianity!!!
I'm Polish and I see the pagan revival here, it is not massive and widespread but you can sometimes meet people praying to old Slavic gods in forests... Almost all Poles are Roman-Catholics but sometimes I wonder how it was for my ancestors to worship old, ancient Slavic gods...
Why do you call them idol worshippers? They worship the gods of nature and honor the seasons. if anything, Christianity is idol worship because it sets up Jesus as equal to God.
I am not Russian, but my ancestors in Europe were forced to suppress their "pagan", nature-based religions as much as these people and their Russian ancestors were. And what is wrong with rejecting some or all of modern life? They live in community, they live close to nature, they're returning to their roots.
Russian History Viewed through Distorted Mirrors by Nicolai Levashov is a great book as well, great overview of the Slavic Vedas, the oldest texts in the world, google it, its free.
They aren't idol whorshippers! they worship ancient and glorious gods you fools are "RussiaToday" need to repost this with the correct title. " Slavic Pagans Honoring Their Ancestor's Lives and Gods"
All your orthodox CHRISTIAN beliefs come from a JEW religion! Every written word of your Christianity and Islam was though up and confounded by JEWS! Just because a nation has a history of a certain religion doesn't mean it belongs there. You Russians are so brainwashed you don't even know your ancestors native religions you probably don't even know why the wolf is used as a symbol in the balkans something that had to do with satanic slavic paganism! Embrace your true essence fools!
lol their hippies ... how can you not eat meat,, its the best thing the world! Besides do you REALLY think that people back at the time did not eat meat because they wanted to be one with nature? morons
I am a believer of the Hellenic Gods but rejecting modern civilization is a bit much for me. I think this story is a bit slanted. It seems to be they're Russian Homesteaders who happen to be polytheistic in nature.
@runner784 listen to me you narrow minded christian - go back and read your Bible - Matthew 7:2 to be precise, and then come back humbled. Don't preach your faith when clearly you need a pagan to remind about the inner workings of its dogma. After 2000 years of Christian oppression, europe and the world are beginning to go back to their roots and reclaim what is rightfully theirs.
@BlochyBoi but i'm Muslim, and most Russians today are more of "Bulgar" descent than "Slavic" descent by virtuous ancestry as told by their genes..... why not if this were True, they were to be told to practice Tengriism their real ancestors true religion, not Slavic paganism, the religion of their linguisticly adoptive ancestors, and like most Bulgars, we mixed with Slavs, Finns, Hungarians and Tatars and remaining are Chuvash.
notice at 2:09 she says she called their way ''pagan'' n they denied being called pagan...so,this is telling me that its this ''modern world'' who judge..but catholics idol worship mary and saint statues..and the hanging cross is all idol worship...but one thing these people have is '' love'' and if you got love your following christ's path in saving life....wado
pagan religions have always been about worshiping random gods from cows the moon to even fish i suppose its convenient and has very little rules and guide lines. Do pagan religions have hermits that give their whole lives to god ? have they ever had saints? Do they have stories where saints performed miracles? Do they believe in loving everyone even people with other beliefs and religions? im not even supposed to be watching this...good day.
Yes, we should be logical and realize that God can only take the form of a self-sired, bleeding human sacrifice dying ignomiously nailed to a piece of wood. Much less random.
I know pagans who learn a plethora of dead languages like old Norse and ancient Greek, prepare elaborate rituals, give regular offerings, and build their own shrines and altars. On the whole, I think it's very rare for modern Christians to show a similar degree of devotion.
while I generally prefer to follow Paganism in the modern civilization (Pagans have always been practical after all, we created and used all kinds of novelties eagerly), I admire such an initiative. It's a good way to know and feel the Old Ways better than in a big city...
This comment has received too many negative votesshow
Why are these people returning to paganism? What does it really have to offer anybody except a series of little ceremonies that give people who participate a sense of belonging. Do the pagan gods speak? NO. Where were they when paganism was nearly wiped off the face of the earth? Those pagan gods didn't do anything to stop it because they don't exist. Hey people, just join the Society for Creative Anachronism where you can play make-believe all you want. It's all fake anyway.
Paganism, for some, is a return to what was abandoned for a religion that offered a political advatage for those who converted to it. NOT that Christianity is not a valid religion, but some of us DO hear the "pagan gods", as you call them. I "hear" their call everyday.
And why did they not "do anything to stop" polytheistic religions from dying out? Because the Gods don't need us. They answer some who call on them, and there are times when we desperately need the Gods, but they NEVER need us.
The gods are not jealous. Who could belief jealous gods exist when more than one religion abides on earth?
By that logic, the logic that gods would prevent people from rejecting their worship, shouldn't all the world have always been Christian? Doesn't this make the jealous god, not the pagan god, seem more absurd?
First off all I belief the Rus people are not all Orthodox Christians and never have been. Christianity was forced on Russian people with sword and fire. These people have the right to return to their roots and ignorant chauvinistic Christians have no right and power to prevent this. So stop wasting your time.
Hmm ... Uneducated neo-pagans, who believed in psevdoistoriyu, albeit silent. Read the history of the Russian Orthodox Church, my friend. I have said.
Haha, you just have to open any book by the government of Moscow from the 14-17th century. The nasty little horrors described there on how to deal with non-believers tell enough. And i'm quite sure you haven't read those but the works by pro-christian modern writers.
Who forced Orthodox Christianity on the Russians??? Russians picked up Orthodox Christianity from the Byzantine (Greek) empire, whom they never warred with.
@JuniusFaction Actually, if you read the primary sources, it is clear that Vladimir thought Christianity was superior to other religions - including his own paganism. The idea that ancient peoples converted for only political reasons is disproved by the conversion of the Khazars.
There are many motives you could project over him, admittedly. However, you have to take into account that he was a devout pagan who abruptly changed his mind. I've read that he was just scared silly by some theologian who told him about hell, and it's also very possible he did it for political reasons. The primary chronicles say the Rus were impressed with Byzantium's prosperity though, and to me that makes more sense to me than anything else.
@JuniusFaction Being scared of Hell and believing Christianity was the proper response would mean Vladimir believed Christianity to be the superior religion. Your own reply defeats you.
I was being dismissive, and I was unclear. In my mind, fear for himself would be an equally poor motive for him. No, it doesn't necessarily mean Christianity appealed to him in any other way; the threat of hell is there to give Christianity the ability to convert by being threatening, rather than being inspiring in any way. I still do believe virtually all European rulers were under noteworthy political pressure to convert by this time.
@vladimir998 After that they started to baptize old "pagans" (also notice that 1. christian popes were Jews)..They killed ALL priests of old faith (last ones were killed in 12 century AD), old Tzarian Libraries, Orthodox (not Christian - but "pagan") burned to the ground, and over 12 million people slaughtered including women and children. Those who survived, were brought to special brainwashing programs by Jesuits (from this word comes "Jesus")
@VendPrekmurec NO. None of what you are rambling about is believed by a single reputable historian anywhere in the world. You're spinning silly conspiracy stories that have no basis in fact whatsoever.
@vladimir998 term "Pagan" comes from Slavic word "Bogan" or "Godly" in english.
In Sanskrit Bhaga means "Bog" (Slavic) or "God" in English
"Pagan" became NEGATIVE term by Yahwists even today... they mock from "pagans" (old Aryan Slavic Church - PravoSlavna Vera - of old faith) as some primitive religion. Actually Slavic "pagan" church was not religion, but old Faith (Vera- Faith and knowledge - Veda of Ra (Brahma)
@VendPrekmurec NO. The term "pagan" is from Latin: paganus - meaning rural person, a rustic. Christianity was an urban religion. The old pagan religion was held onto by the rural people much longer.
@vladimir998 Well are you afraid that Torah was written in 11. century AD and that so called western hisTORy is in fact a FAKE?
Well I can write you Vedic micro and macro time concepts of the universe (age of the universe) ... but hey... Indian civilization is not 3000 years older right? Because Yahwists say so!
@VendPrekmurec Call me a moron, but at least I knew the correct origins of the word "pagan" while you did not. Between us I am the only one with any knowledge. The Torah was written long before the 11th century - on that Christians, Jews, Muslims, and secular scholars all agree. Only a few kooks like yourself dispute that.
@VendPrekmurec Uh, NO. Christianity came to be BEFORE there was a Byzantine Empire. There has never been an "Orthodox ("slavic pagan"" religion ever, anywhere that produced a Christian church of any type. The Torah was known centuries before the 11th century.
@VendPrekmurec Uh, no. Any scholar history of any repute would say that Christianity existed before the Byzantine Empire. Only a fool would dispute what is so obviously shown in the literary, historical and archeological records. You're showing that you live in a word of shadows and conspiracies. Sciolism is not the answer.
@vladimir998 for you Jew. "TORAH" comes from Russian "pov-TORIT" and it means "to repeat" - when Afro-Semitic Jews overtaken the Russian Khazarian Khaganat, the NWO started and they went to Byzantine, where Sahendrin composed "jewish" religion and wrote Leningrad Codex (1. bible and 1. torah)
Many of words were simply taken from old Slavic faith "Sabbath" from "Sabaot" ("slava from", Pashet, Nimrod (silent genus).and perverted
After destruct. of Byzantine they moved to "new JeRUSAlan" - Russia
@vladimir998 "Scholar" of the "history" (stories from Torah ). "School", "SHOLA", "Schule" comes over Jesuit Christian( Inquisition) - Yahwistic order of Hebrew "SH'OL" - which was implemented over ancient Egyptian secret societies - TUAT school of Osiris's priest, called "Levites" (Moses was Osiris's priest, with the real name Osarphys - read Flavius-Manetho )
so much about your "ancient israel" and your "scholars" - of yahwistic wikipedia
@vladimir998 "You're showing that you live in a word of shadows and conspiracies." well my life is not your business ok?
"Pagan" comes from "Latin" - but Latin "pagan" was taken from Slavic "Bog" or Sanskrit "Bhaga". Slavic (Shivait) language still use above 40% of old Sanskrit words - when Hindus use bellow 25%...
@vladimir998 "Uh, no. Any scholar history of any repute would say that Christianity existed before the Byzantine Empire. " yes there existed Osiris's cult - called "Krst" (Christ) or Krishna's cult in India or Mithra's cult,...
about the word "Krst" - this is an ancient Slavic word, used for "twice born" - incarnation... - incarnated god XPCT (Hor(u)s - XOPC or Svetovid - Son of slavic Ra or indian Brahma.)
@vladimir998 when Christianity (KRST = slavic XPCT - or Krst-na - reincarnated (twice) one god XOPC (Hors or Horus - in old egypt) or Svetovid ("Christ") or Krishna, Osiris's perversion of "Krst" - his fake son Horus... became Jewish (Osirian) new implementation of "Christ" as "lords" incarnated / god Jesus ...
After that Jews killed over 12 million "pagan" Russians and other Vends (old slavs) over whole europe... so was "hisTORy" written as you today know it...
All your orthodox CHRISTIAN beliefs come from a JEW religion! Every written word of your Christianity and Islam was though up and confounded by JEWS! Just because a nation has a history of a certain religion doesn't mean it belongs there. You Russians are so brainwashed you don't even know your ancestors native religions you probably don't even know why the wolf is used as a symbol in the balkans something that had to do with satanic slavic paganism!
@evilfromtheorient I am not Russian, but you are clearly a moron. Russians lose little by not knowing their old pagan religion which none of them have practiced for a 1000 years. Everything lasting and good that the Russians have they got from Christians: written language, literature, art, schools, music, etc. None of it came from pagans. And about the wolf: you're wrong. Cultures routinely adopt animal images. There's no satanism there.
Wrong Russians lost of a-lot of their culture by adopting a JEW RELIGION! Many still practice it as evidence by this video. Russians had culture, a language, music and art all before Christian invaded and killed Russians, Christianity turned Russia into another western puppet... Also if you Russians are so proud of Christianity then why deny its Jewishness...If you deny it you are only deceiving your self and land yourself into eternal torment as mentioned in Christian bible..
Technically, the Greek alphabet *was* invented by pagans. The Christians were only civilized because they supplanted the pagan civilization of the Roman Empire. You act as though civilization wouldn't have existed without them.
@JuniusFaction Indeed! The Slavs and Balts were the peoples whom resisted the most against the spread of christianity and every day I wish they had not been defeated.
you're so stupid and bigoted. Good Russian or Pole can be Christian, Pagan, Atheist or anything. Patriotism is not in the religin you follow, but in your love for the Motherland. And if you were to judge patriotic feelings by religion, then Paganism wins, as the religion of the deepest roots and oldest tradition. You can't be a patriot dishonoring the religion which made Slavs the Slavs. Slava Bogom/Glory to the Gods!!
@OldWaysFollower I would sign everything you said! This is a problem especially in the Balkans... Serbs - Orthodox, Bosnians - Muslim, Croats - Catholic. Well that doesn't cut it! You can be Orthodox and a Bosnian, or Muslim and a Croat!
Good on you! May the ancient European/Slavic Gods of Natural, Real spiritual paths be re activated and overthrow the megalomaniac evil Great Dictator in the Sky of monotheism. Unity through Diversity/Many, and NEVER through one only.
Greater Dharmic wisdom is the answer. Monotheism only brings war, hatred, division, oppression, intolerance and falsehood.
jesus christ is an idol!! why do people want to reduce god to a person? god is everything, is everywhere, god`s always been here hterefore he cant return.
because we are tired of being slaves to judeo-christianity in the name of which. Only suffering has been brought to the world. Jesus Christ was a man who did good deeds, he was not the son of god, it's impossible that someone can get pregnant from the holy spirit, what is a holy spirit ? do you even know? you are a sheep just like most people are, fallen a slave to a jewish god.
Christianity is rebirth after a bombardment of pain and despair. Suffering was the state of man and is the state of man. Love is the path of suffering a Christian chooses. It is humbling and peaceful. Remember many people take the name Christian, but do not live by it. Do not judge other Christians for their mistakes. I respect and honor these people in the video for leading uncomplicated lives, regardless of their faith WildChild2021.
Very interesting. You call Jesus just a man who did good deeds and say he was not the son of God. Then you further call someone a "sheep just like most people are, fallen a slave to a Jewish god."
the holy spirit is a Cosmic Energy we Hail the Sun God we don't bow to him or kneel before him, we are truly free. We are equal to our Gods. Truth be told more blood had been spilled in the name of your judeo-christianity than anything else. Salem murders is a great example and the Crusades. You are all mere puppets and slaves nothing more. We the Pagans are the truly free Hail to Perun
Because they worship idol!. I love how you wrote your message with a computer, which counts as materialism. Can anyone say hypocrite? Kill your self or do what they do or you don't actually believe your words foo.
pagan,and yes why should europeans not do this? why should a jewish god be shoved down our throats? what was wrong withour ancient gods? go fuck all christianity! we never asked or needed it,who decided that a jewish bible was just what we needed in the west? i am quite happy with my ancient northern european gods thankyou very mush...
@jamierourketen I agree! It makes me sick, when politicians asskiss Vatikan and they jointly say, that Europe has christian roots! BULLSHIT! EUROPE HAS PAGAN ROOTS!!!
You must not know too many Amish people then. On the whole, they are self-sufficient and stable. In circumstances in which they need help, the community comes to their aid. Heathen groups aspire to the same sense of community. I am also not sure how being rootless would be any more effective at stopping ICBMs.
It's all about choice and I like that. There is definitely something good to be said about older cultures that respected nature and valued a strong social structure, like the American Indians. I challenge you to spend time in a large American city and see how many people interact with you. It's close to zero. That one percent is mostly someone either begging for something or trying to sell you something. In large cities, you become reduced to nothing more than an object in other peoples way.
How are they helpless to an advancing world? I am not a big Amish supporter but respect their differences in their way of life. I certainly dont see them as helpless though.
If the christian god exists? Why he create pagans?
henkea76 3 months ago 2
as a Polish wiccan, i absolutely LOVE this!!! OMG... if only, one day all slavs could return to their ancient pagan roots..if only.. FUCK Christianity!!!
SLAWA, BRACIE!!!
demonicDEBACLE 3 months ago
I'm Polish and I see the pagan revival here, it is not massive and widespread but you can sometimes meet people praying to old Slavic gods in forests... Almost all Poles are Roman-Catholics but sometimes I wonder how it was for my ancestors to worship old, ancient Slavic gods...
PdP4ever 3 months ago 2
Why do you call them idol worshippers? They worship the gods of nature and honor the seasons. if anything, Christianity is idol worship because it sets up Jesus as equal to God.
I am not Russian, but my ancestors in Europe were forced to suppress their "pagan", nature-based religions as much as these people and their Russian ancestors were. And what is wrong with rejecting some or all of modern life? They live in community, they live close to nature, they're returning to their roots.
xander7ful 4 months ago 2
Listen to the song "Miles away" by Kaz Piech!!!!!!!!!
TheKPiech 5 months ago
Idol-worshippers! Pagans worship the gods, not their idols!
Heidenrot 6 months ago 2
Russian History Viewed through Distorted Mirrors by Nicolai Levashov is a great book as well, great overview of the Slavic Vedas, the oldest texts in the world, google it, its free.
YSBCITTAR 6 months ago
They aren't idol whorshippers! they worship ancient and glorious gods you fools are "RussiaToday" need to repost this with the correct title. " Slavic Pagans Honoring Their Ancestor's Lives and Gods"
SarahLikesRamen101 9 months ago
This has been flagged as spam show
All your orthodox CHRISTIAN beliefs come from a JEW religion! Every written word of your Christianity and Islam was though up and confounded by JEWS! Just because a nation has a history of a certain religion doesn't mean it belongs there. You Russians are so brainwashed you don't even know your ancestors native religions you probably don't even know why the wolf is used as a symbol in the balkans something that had to do with satanic slavic paganism! Embrace your true essence fools!
evilfromtheorient 9 months ago
Pagans do not worship idols. Statues are only symbols of what is really worshiped.
whitebull11 11 months ago
lol their hippies ... how can you not eat meat,, its the best thing the world! Besides do you REALLY think that people back at the time did not eat meat because they wanted to be one with nature? morons
3choBlast3r 11 months ago
@3choBlast3r
Oh i see, we are spreading our thoughtless opinion in public. Well, in that case..
I think you are worse than a moron ;-)
Vensu907 11 months ago
I am a believer of the Hellenic Gods but rejecting modern civilization is a bit much for me. I think this story is a bit slanted. It seems to be they're Russian Homesteaders who happen to be polytheistic in nature.
SteampunkPagan 11 months ago
FUCK OFF with your bullshit
jessicafischerqueen 1 year ago
Jesus and Muhammed is dead!
Pagans gods live forever!
henkea76 1 year ago 2
@henkea76
AGREED 10000%
demonicDEBACLE 3 months ago 2
The New World Order Wants you to reject Christianity
runner784 1 year ago
Comment removed
VendPrekmurec 1 year ago
Comment removed
VendPrekmurec 1 year ago
Comment removed
VendPrekmurec 1 year ago
@runner784 Christianity was dead by 19th century, except for third world and some backwater shitholes. Civilization and progress of Europe did that.
People are fighting NWO by returning to their pre-christian and pre-jewish roots.
OkurkaBinLadin 1 year ago
@OkurkaBinLadin Okay, Illuminati hated Abrhamic religions, they want you to become Pagan,
Slavs worshipped God, and his name was Perun, only the astray and perished slavic tribes paganized!
runner784 1 year ago
@runner784 Slavs did not worshiped "God", but gods as their ancestors...
VendPrekmurec 1 year ago
@runner784 Isn't it ironic how the New World Order exists only through the objections of hard line christian fundamentalists?
rahagbab 5 months ago
BURN IN HELL!!!!! This is the worst of all sins !!
runner784 1 year ago
@runner784 listen to me you narrow minded christian - go back and read your Bible - Matthew 7:2 to be precise, and then come back humbled. Don't preach your faith when clearly you need a pagan to remind about the inner workings of its dogma. After 2000 years of Christian oppression, europe and the world are beginning to go back to their roots and reclaim what is rightfully theirs.
BlochyBoi 1 year ago
@BlochyBoi but i'm Muslim, and most Russians today are more of "Bulgar" descent than "Slavic" descent by virtuous ancestry as told by their genes..... why not if this were True, they were to be told to practice Tengriism their real ancestors true religion, not Slavic paganism, the religion of their linguisticly adoptive ancestors, and like most Bulgars, we mixed with Slavs, Finns, Hungarians and Tatars and remaining are Chuvash.
runner784 1 year ago
Comment removed
VendPrekmurec 1 year ago
Comment removed
VendPrekmurec 1 year ago
Why is there no sound?
FilipMarkovski 1 year ago
notice at 2:09 she says she called their way ''pagan'' n they denied being called pagan...so,this is telling me that its this ''modern world'' who judge..but catholics idol worship mary and saint statues..and the hanging cross is all idol worship...but one thing these people have is '' love'' and if you got love your following christ's path in saving life....wado
chulah12 1 year ago
Comment removed
VendPrekmurec 1 year ago
pagan religions have always been about worshiping random gods from cows the moon to even fish i suppose its convenient and has very little rules and guide lines. Do pagan religions have hermits that give their whole lives to god ? have they ever had saints? Do they have stories where saints performed miracles? Do they believe in loving everyone even people with other beliefs and religions? im not even supposed to be watching this...good day.
pavilreutov 1 year ago
Yes, we should be logical and realize that God can only take the form of a self-sired, bleeding human sacrifice dying ignomiously nailed to a piece of wood. Much less random.
I know pagans who learn a plethora of dead languages like old Norse and ancient Greek, prepare elaborate rituals, give regular offerings, and build their own shrines and altars. On the whole, I think it's very rare for modern Christians to show a similar degree of devotion.
JuniusFaction 1 year ago 2
Comment removed
VendPrekmurec 1 year ago
while I generally prefer to follow Paganism in the modern civilization (Pagans have always been practical after all, we created and used all kinds of novelties eagerly), I admire such an initiative. It's a good way to know and feel the Old Ways better than in a big city...
OldWaysFollower 2 years ago
Im a Polish slav
23PBZ 2 years ago 3
We,Slavs,have our own faith - rodnoverie!
You,Semite,have yours.Friendly advice:fuck christianity,islam and judaism and return to your truly faith Adad and Hadad!
Rodnoverje 2 years ago 3
This comment has received too many negative votes show
Why are these people returning to paganism? What does it really have to offer anybody except a series of little ceremonies that give people who participate a sense of belonging. Do the pagan gods speak? NO. Where were they when paganism was nearly wiped off the face of the earth? Those pagan gods didn't do anything to stop it because they don't exist. Hey people, just join the Society for Creative Anachronism where you can play make-believe all you want. It's all fake anyway.
beatlesguy01 2 years ago
Paganism, for some, is a return to what was abandoned for a religion that offered a political advatage for those who converted to it. NOT that Christianity is not a valid religion, but some of us DO hear the "pagan gods", as you call them. I "hear" their call everyday.
And why did they not "do anything to stop" polytheistic religions from dying out? Because the Gods don't need us. They answer some who call on them, and there are times when we desperately need the Gods, but they NEVER need us.
Stoirmeacha 2 years ago 2
How about you go fuck yourself? Where was Yahweh when Nero was burning Christians? Pagan gods DO speak, just not to idiots like you.
HoundofOdin 2 years ago 6
exactly HoundOfOdin. With Slavic Pagan Greetings from Poland. Hail slaviske og nordisk hedendom!
OldWaysFollower 2 years ago 5
the Beatles suck...how does that feel?
Norn 2 years ago
The gods are not jealous. Who could belief jealous gods exist when more than one religion abides on earth?
By that logic, the logic that gods would prevent people from rejecting their worship, shouldn't all the world have always been Christian? Doesn't this make the jealous god, not the pagan god, seem more absurd?
.
JuniusFaction 2 years ago 3
It's always good to know where you come from. This is inspiring, and the Slavic people have many great traditions. I love this.
courtneyrao 2 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
Russian people - the Orthodox Christians! People who are on the video - sectarians, neo-pagans, the enemy is RUSSIA!
I - Russian, I am Orthodox!
PanSandro 2 years ago
shut the fuck up, go lick the local priests ass...
rogsvarog 2 years ago
This has been flagged as spam show
You can do without the rudeness?
PanSandro 2 years ago
No, give up writing such bullshit and I might just do without it. :)
rogsvarog 2 years ago
First off all I belief the Rus people are not all Orthodox Christians and never have been. Christianity was forced on Russian people with sword and fire. These people have the right to return to their roots and ignorant chauvinistic Christians have no right and power to prevent this. So stop wasting your time.
Aniketos00 2 years ago 2
Hmm ... Uneducated neo-pagans, who believed in psevdoistoriyu, albeit silent. Read the history of the Russian Orthodox Church, my friend. I have said.
PanSandro 2 years ago
Haha, you just have to open any book by the government of Moscow from the 14-17th century. The nasty little horrors described there on how to deal with non-believers tell enough. And i'm quite sure you haven't read those but the works by pro-christian modern writers.
Aniketos00 2 years ago 2
Who forced Orthodox Christianity on the Russians??? Russians picked up Orthodox Christianity from the Byzantine (Greek) empire, whom they never warred with.
Odin74M 2 years ago
VOLODOMYR adopted Christianity from the Byzantines for the same reason that he immediately afterward married a Greek princess; politics.
That was all the justification the Christians needed to spread the religion forcefully throughout Rus. There was a lot of resistance.
JuniusFaction 2 years ago 13
@JuniusFaction Actually, if you read the primary sources, it is clear that Vladimir thought Christianity was superior to other religions - including his own paganism. The idea that ancient peoples converted for only political reasons is disproved by the conversion of the Khazars.
vladimir998 1 year ago
@vladimir998
There are many motives you could project over him, admittedly. However, you have to take into account that he was a devout pagan who abruptly changed his mind. I've read that he was just scared silly by some theologian who told him about hell, and it's also very possible he did it for political reasons. The primary chronicles say the Rus were impressed with Byzantium's prosperity though, and to me that makes more sense to me than anything else.
JuniusFaction 1 year ago
@JuniusFaction Being scared of Hell and believing Christianity was the proper response would mean Vladimir believed Christianity to be the superior religion. Your own reply defeats you.
vladimir998 1 year ago
Comment removed
VendPrekmurec 1 year ago
@vladimir998
I was being dismissive, and I was unclear. In my mind, fear for himself would be an equally poor motive for him. No, it doesn't necessarily mean Christianity appealed to him in any other way; the threat of hell is there to give Christianity the ability to convert by being threatening, rather than being inspiring in any way. I still do believe virtually all European rulers were under noteworthy political pressure to convert by this time.
JuniusFaction 1 year ago
Comment removed
VendPrekmurec 1 year ago
@vladimir998 After that they started to baptize old "pagans" (also notice that 1. christian popes were Jews)..They killed ALL priests of old faith (last ones were killed in 12 century AD), old Tzarian Libraries, Orthodox (not Christian - but "pagan") burned to the ground, and over 12 million people slaughtered including women and children. Those who survived, were brought to special brainwashing programs by Jesuits (from this word comes "Jesus")
and hisTORy (story of Torah) was written AGAIN.
VendPrekmurec 1 year ago
@VendPrekmurec NO. None of what you are rambling about is believed by a single reputable historian anywhere in the world. You're spinning silly conspiracy stories that have no basis in fact whatsoever.
vladimir998 1 year ago
@vladimir998 term "Pagan" comes from Slavic word "Bogan" or "Godly" in english.
In Sanskrit Bhaga means "Bog" (Slavic) or "God" in English
"Pagan" became NEGATIVE term by Yahwists even today... they mock from "pagans" (old Aryan Slavic Church - PravoSlavna Vera - of old faith) as some primitive religion. Actually Slavic "pagan" church was not religion, but old Faith (Vera- Faith and knowledge - Veda of Ra (Brahma)
VendPrekmurec 1 year ago
@VendPrekmurec NO. The term "pagan" is from Latin: paganus - meaning rural person, a rustic. Christianity was an urban religion. The old pagan religion was held onto by the rural people much longer.
You have no idea of what you're talking about.
vladimir998 1 year ago
@vladimir998 Well are you afraid that Torah was written in 11. century AD and that so called western hisTORy is in fact a FAKE?
Well I can write you Vedic micro and macro time concepts of the universe (age of the universe) ... but hey... Indian civilization is not 3000 years older right? Because Yahwists say so!
moron
VendPrekmurec 1 year ago
@VendPrekmurec Call me a moron, but at least I knew the correct origins of the word "pagan" while you did not. Between us I am the only one with any knowledge. The Torah was written long before the 11th century - on that Christians, Jews, Muslims, and secular scholars all agree. Only a few kooks like yourself dispute that.
vladimir998 1 year ago
@vladimir998 no You have no idea, what you are talking about...
Bhaga is Sansktits word, i do not care if Yahwists say if is this "latin" word... I know it is Aryan word.
VendPrekmurec 1 year ago
@VendPrekmurec No you don't. "Pagan" is from the Latin - that's why it was used in Latin. Look it up in any standard dictionary or encyclopedia.
vladimir998 1 year ago
Comment removed
VendPrekmurec 1 year ago
@VendPrekmurec Uh, NO. Christianity came to be BEFORE there was a Byzantine Empire. There has never been an "Orthodox ("slavic pagan"" religion ever, anywhere that produced a Christian church of any type. The Torah was known centuries before the 11th century.
vladimir998 1 year ago
@vladimir998 sure because on Yahwistic western Wikipedia is written that ..
bullshit!
so called history - especially Wikipedian is based on Scalingers occult Jesuits cabinet from 17 and 18. century.,,
VendPrekmurec 1 year ago
@VendPrekmurec Uh, no. Any scholar history of any repute would say that Christianity existed before the Byzantine Empire. Only a fool would dispute what is so obviously shown in the literary, historical and archeological records. You're showing that you live in a word of shadows and conspiracies. Sciolism is not the answer.
vladimir998 1 year ago
@vladimir998 for you Jew. "TORAH" comes from Russian "pov-TORIT" and it means "to repeat" - when Afro-Semitic Jews overtaken the Russian Khazarian Khaganat, the NWO started and they went to Byzantine, where Sahendrin composed "jewish" religion and wrote Leningrad Codex (1. bible and 1. torah)
Many of words were simply taken from old Slavic faith "Sabbath" from "Sabaot" ("slava from", Pashet, Nimrod (silent genus).and perverted
After destruct. of Byzantine they moved to "new JeRUSAlan" - Russia
VendPrekmurec 1 year ago
@vladimir998 "Scholar" of the "history" (stories from Torah ). "School", "SHOLA", "Schule" comes over Jesuit Christian( Inquisition) - Yahwistic order of Hebrew "SH'OL" - which was implemented over ancient Egyptian secret societies - TUAT school of Osiris's priest, called "Levites" (Moses was Osiris's priest, with the real name Osarphys - read Flavius-Manetho )
so much about your "ancient israel" and your "scholars" - of yahwistic wikipedia
VendPrekmurec 1 year ago
Comment removed
VendPrekmurec 1 year ago
@vladimir998 "You're showing that you live in a word of shadows and conspiracies." well my life is not your business ok?
"Pagan" comes from "Latin" - but Latin "pagan" was taken from Slavic "Bog" or Sanskrit "Bhaga". Slavic (Shivait) language still use above 40% of old Sanskrit words - when Hindus use bellow 25%...
VendPrekmurec 1 year ago 2
This has been flagged as spam show
@vladimir998 "Uh, no. Any scholar history of any repute would say that Christianity existed before the Byzantine Empire. " yes there existed Osiris's cult - called "Krst" (Christ) or Krishna's cult in India or Mithra's cult,...
about the word "Krst" - this is an ancient Slavic word, used for "twice born" - incarnation... - incarnated god XPCT (Hor(u)s - XOPC or Svetovid - Son of slavic Ra or indian Brahma.)
VendPrekmurec 1 year ago
This has been flagged as spam show
@vladimir998 when Christianity (KRST = slavic XPCT - or Krst-na - reincarnated (twice) one god XOPC (Hors or Horus - in old egypt) or Svetovid ("Christ") or Krishna, Osiris's perversion of "Krst" - his fake son Horus... became Jewish (Osirian) new implementation of "Christ" as "lords" incarnated / god Jesus ...
After that Jews killed over 12 million "pagan" Russians and other Vends (old slavs) over whole europe... so was "hisTORy" written as you today know it...
VendPrekmurec 1 year ago
Comment removed
VendPrekmurec 1 year ago
Comment removed
VendPrekmurec 1 year ago
@vladimir998
All your orthodox CHRISTIAN beliefs come from a JEW religion! Every written word of your Christianity and Islam was though up and confounded by JEWS! Just because a nation has a history of a certain religion doesn't mean it belongs there. You Russians are so brainwashed you don't even know your ancestors native religions you probably don't even know why the wolf is used as a symbol in the balkans something that had to do with satanic slavic paganism!
evilfromtheorient 9 months ago
@evilfromtheorient I am not Russian, but you are clearly a moron. Russians lose little by not knowing their old pagan religion which none of them have practiced for a 1000 years. Everything lasting and good that the Russians have they got from Christians: written language, literature, art, schools, music, etc. None of it came from pagans. And about the wolf: you're wrong. Cultures routinely adopt animal images. There's no satanism there.
vladimir998 9 months ago
@vladimir998
Wrong Russians lost of a-lot of their culture by adopting a JEW RELIGION! Many still practice it as evidence by this video. Russians had culture, a language, music and art all before Christian invaded and killed Russians, Christianity turned Russia into another western puppet... Also if you Russians are so proud of Christianity then why deny its Jewishness...If you deny it you are only deceiving your self and land yourself into eternal torment as mentioned in Christian bible..
evilfromtheorient 8 months ago
@vladimir998
Technically, the Greek alphabet *was* invented by pagans. The Christians were only civilized because they supplanted the pagan civilization of the Roman Empire. You act as though civilization wouldn't have existed without them.
JuniusFaction 8 months ago
@JuniusFaction Indeed! The Slavs and Balts were the peoples whom resisted the most against the spread of christianity and every day I wish they had not been defeated.
Hail those who fought for freedom!
Hail those who still fight for it!
Hail the Gods and Goddesses!
ManelinhoAraujinho 1 year ago
you're so stupid and bigoted. Good Russian or Pole can be Christian, Pagan, Atheist or anything. Patriotism is not in the religin you follow, but in your love for the Motherland. And if you were to judge patriotic feelings by religion, then Paganism wins, as the religion of the deepest roots and oldest tradition. You can't be a patriot dishonoring the religion which made Slavs the Slavs. Slava Bogom/Glory to the Gods!!
OldWaysFollower 2 years ago 3
Are you Russian? You know that in ðóñêèé pagan art (ancient) nebylo patriotic theme in general.
PanSandro 2 years ago
@OldWaysFollower I would sign everything you said! This is a problem especially in the Balkans... Serbs - Orthodox, Bosnians - Muslim, Croats - Catholic. Well that doesn't cut it! You can be Orthodox and a Bosnian, or Muslim and a Croat!
FilipMarkovski 1 year ago
Good on you! May the ancient European/Slavic Gods of Natural, Real spiritual paths be re activated and overthrow the megalomaniac evil Great Dictator in the Sky of monotheism. Unity through Diversity/Many, and NEVER through one only.
Greater Dharmic wisdom is the answer. Monotheism only brings war, hatred, division, oppression, intolerance and falsehood.
Yogiphildas 3 years ago
jesus christ is an idol!! why do people want to reduce god to a person? god is everything, is everywhere, god`s always been here hterefore he cant return.
mentalliberation 3 years ago
because we are tired of being slaves to judeo-christianity in the name of which. Only suffering has been brought to the world. Jesus Christ was a man who did good deeds, he was not the son of god, it's impossible that someone can get pregnant from the holy spirit, what is a holy spirit ? do you even know? you are a sheep just like most people are, fallen a slave to a jewish god.
WildChild2021 3 years ago
Comment removed
halfrek 2 years ago
Christianity is rebirth after a bombardment of pain and despair. Suffering was the state of man and is the state of man. Love is the path of suffering a Christian chooses. It is humbling and peaceful. Remember many people take the name Christian, but do not live by it. Do not judge other Christians for their mistakes. I respect and honor these people in the video for leading uncomplicated lives, regardless of their faith WildChild2021.
halfrek 2 years ago
Very interesting. You call Jesus just a man who did good deeds and say he was not the son of God. Then you further call someone a "sheep just like most people are, fallen a slave to a Jewish god."
Interesting...you sound like a Muslim to me.
beatlesguy01 2 years ago
the holy spirit is a Cosmic Energy we Hail the Sun God we don't bow to him or kneel before him, we are truly free. We are equal to our Gods. Truth be told more blood had been spilled in the name of your judeo-christianity than anything else. Salem murders is a great example and the Crusades. You are all mere puppets and slaves nothing more. We the Pagans are the truly free Hail to Perun
WildChild2021 3 years ago
Idols? WTF?
Those are old Slavic Gods!!!
boolet7375 3 years ago
Why are they called idol worshippers?Because they reject the god of Materialism?More power to them.
AuroraKismet 3 years ago 3
Because they worship idol!. I love how you wrote your message with a computer, which counts as materialism. Can anyone say hypocrite? Kill your self or do what they do or you don't actually believe your words foo.
cortezawwris 3 years ago
a computer is a tool;materialism is an ideology and also a lifestyle.
You have murder in your heart wishing me,a complete stranger dead.You've no right to judge them you would be killer.
AuroraKismet 3 years ago 2
More people going back to their ancestors true ways. It is how it should be, the best of luck to them. Hail Odin!
falconskitchen 3 years ago
pagan,and yes why should europeans not do this? why should a jewish god be shoved down our throats? what was wrong withour ancient gods? go fuck all christianity! we never asked or needed it,who decided that a jewish bible was just what we needed in the west? i am quite happy with my ancient northern european gods thankyou very mush...
jamierourketen 3 years ago 34
@jamierourketen I agree! It makes me sick, when politicians asskiss Vatikan and they jointly say, that Europe has christian roots! BULLSHIT! EUROPE HAS PAGAN ROOTS!!!
FilipMarkovski 1 year ago
@jamierourketen well done buddy
SilniPerun88 1 year ago
@jamierourketen EXACTLY
MrsLetsgocamping 1 year ago
i love this. i didnt even know ppl still do this. i'd love to live like that, but its hard to do it in the modern world.
some of these dont even look slavic though
mashkaa 3 years ago
You must not know too many Amish people then. On the whole, they are self-sufficient and stable. In circumstances in which they need help, the community comes to their aid. Heathen groups aspire to the same sense of community. I am also not sure how being rootless would be any more effective at stopping ICBMs.
verzannt 3 years ago
It's all about choice and I like that. There is definitely something good to be said about older cultures that respected nature and valued a strong social structure, like the American Indians. I challenge you to spend time in a large American city and see how many people interact with you. It's close to zero. That one percent is mostly someone either begging for something or trying to sell you something. In large cities, you become reduced to nothing more than an object in other peoples way.
paladin939 3 years ago 4
you are right,return to pagan ritual
jamierourketen 3 years ago 2
of course it does...acually like those of the Germanic tribes which reached from Iceland to the Slavic regions. Odin was invoked.
percheronpalmsannie 3 years ago 2
How are they helpless to an advancing world? I am not a big Amish supporter but respect their differences in their way of life. I certainly dont see them as helpless though.
cyndeelouwho1972 3 years ago 3
lool. popovka.. popa means ass in russian. nice place i think
wuri4 3 years ago