Advanced Pitching-Lower Half Efficiency

[wogdoggy]

Why doesnt he teach turning the pocket toward the batter..no lower coil??? Elite hitters coil..so do pitchers

[kgbaseball5170]

great stuff, this is how u learn to stay on your back side and generate power from your hips to throw more consistant on a downward plain to homeplate..

[OCBKbaseball]

good video. ive been trying to work on my lower half

[weatherbyboy3006]

this is a good video.....everything makes sense....ive had coachs try to tell me to sit back on the rubber like that ut ive always have done what u teach....because my dad was a pitcher and told me to do it that way...

[kbeard811]

Which when he went into external rotiaon put a tremendous amount of stress on the arm!

One last thing. On LHE.....I agree that all pitchers do not do this (older tom glavin) This is just a way to help create and use momentum.......look at 99% of the guys (hard throwers) and how they are using their body to create this..........I am not talking about he 1% ers like Tom Sever. There will always be exceptions to the rule!

[kbeard811]

this guy or that guy. There have been and will always be succesful pitchers with some mechanical defficiencies.

I Disagree with the comment about Lincecum. If you watch him in high speed he inside loads and works his front leg down the slope of the mound. By the way he has the same principals of throwing as 99 % of all elite throwers that we see. The differences you see are "his style". If you look at prior he elevated his elbows above his shoudlers going into foot strike.

[mrfinzz]

This is a good vid. This guy's obviously taught lots of people.

Problem is, you can't mass produce pitchers; find what works for you..Many successful P do the opposite of what he is saying here.

Example:Tom Seaver

A Drop&Drive guy, and he had a long, successful career+still has the most HOF votes of all-time.

*Or*

Mark Prior=Taught "perfect" mechanics by none other than Tom House&Big Tex....

and his arm(and career) a a wreck now.

Also Lincecum= breaks like 90% of the "rules" here.

[kbeard811]

I agree that you can't "cookie cutter" teach everybody the same way. We have id about 10 principals that all throwers have in common. Weather you are a more "liner" guy like kofaux or more "rotational" like Lincecum these principals will apply (even though guys may have a different way of going about it). Tom Sever was one of the only true drop and drive guys....he postured himself low and maintained that throughout delivery (hitting his back knee on ground). It is hard to say look at

[OCBKbaseball]

and you have to realize the size difference in pitchers your talking about too, lincecum might be 5'9 and he pitches like he is 6'10 this is because he stays tall like this video shows. but your right about not teaching everyone the same...some coaches are so set in their own ways and wont open up to any suggestions

[SovietskiiSniper]

He's got a good comment: as you raise you, push off in front. I never, ever taught about that one, but yet still being logical.

So many coaches are stupid and don't how and why pitchign does work. Many think there's a perfect motion, which is false. Lincecum has a great one, for him. You can hip turn this much if it suits your body, but there's no point in copying. Find how and why and apply the keys to get success.

Don't follow your coaches, speak together to get the best out of you.

[chupalambestaki]

Not inside the foot, inside the lower leg...so this fellow makes the same mistakes in giving "cues" that he ascribes to others. Throwing off a mound requires different mechanics than from flat ground...this make-shift mound off 4 inches is no better. In order to understand and develop the proper mechanics you must pitch from a mound...only then will you be able to develop and train the proper sequence, with good kinetic energy transfer from the ground up.

[kbeard811]

When your load goes inside the lower leg is also takes the weight to the inside of the foot....so dont be a dumbass. There is more than one way to describe a movment..a cue is "push off the rubber", "squash the bug", "pull your glove to your chest". These are cues....some bad some good, but the player needs undstandig of how the body works to understand cues! The mound is 6". Don't really know what this has to do w this topic. A player can train the kinetic chain flat, 2", 6", 12" 30"

[AztecCrawdaddy]

The best info was regarding the back leg's role when turning the hips; now, looking at guys like Koufax, I can see that you really need to bend that back knee has you turn and work your way down the hill.

[sheadouglas]

This is a well explained video. I have one simple question. When a pitcher's front foot hits the ground his arm should be up and back to be prepared to get on top of the ball to throw "downhill". Will that be affected if they are falling towards the plate as they reach the peak of their balance point? I understand the whole momentum thing for power, and I completely agree, but won't this cause the pitcher to leave the ball up in the zone? I teach pitching too so please give me your thoughts.

[whitefang68]

i mean pushing off the rubber by bending ur back leg

[kbeard811]

you can't push down a hill ......you can push up a hill but not down hill........I just have trouble with that cue word.......likewise, look at some video........if you push against something then you go from a flexed position to a extended positon.......look at video of pitchers back legs at foot strike....they are flexed and not extended........what you are doing is transfering dynamic balance (center of gravity) and momentum and using rotational momentum and not a linear push.

[whitefang68]

bending ur back leg is not bad for some i do it and it makes me throw harder u just have to keep moveing forward and dont stop ur momentum

[kbeard811]

I totally agree with this......as long as you move your center of gravity forwawrd you can flex the back leg (inside load)

what happens with a lot of players they are taught "drop and drive" style of pitching where momemtum is going into the ground as the back leg flexes.......I will agree that this creates a pelvic load which will increase velocity......however you want an inside load where you get the pelvic load plus the use of momentum and dynamic balance

thanks for your comments

[alpenjon]

Thank you!

[Derelicte08]

i know my coach was wrong!

[Strikeout06]

now i know that my coach teaches wrong mecanics, thanks, good vid

[raahr]

very good thanks

[idiotmanhead]

Very good! This guy really knows what he is talking about.

[baseboyy]

very nice vid!

[PittyFilmProductions]

helpful

[digitaldude6745]

VERY NICE VIDEO!!!

for once I see somebody who knows what they are talking about!!

Great job!