Would any of you, who have seen the movie, "The Dam Busters" think the movie could be done today with the dog's name and the code word for the dam was busted unchanged?
After seeing the splash go that high and the bomb bounce up and hit the plane. Would you want to be in the rear plane during the 3 plane drop test? It's a wonder he didn't get wacked.
@barcalonasucks16 Were you ever told, "If you don't know what you're talking about keep you mouth shut"? You need that here. While the RAF, Canada, New Zealand, and Austrialia were involved with the dam raid. That is not what this vid and discussion is about. This vid is about the U.S. seeing if the bouncing bomb could be used against ships. They got to low in the tests and the crew was killed. The test before this one the water hit the tail and they went lower.
@barcalonasucks16 O.K. for this idiot and others who don't know what they're talking about. Go to the PBS website and watch, "NOVA - Bombing Hitler's Dams". About 50 min. into the video. I recommend the whole show, it's a great show. You'll see the same footage as here. However don't stop there, keep going and they'll show it again.Listen to the narrator very closely. After you see how wrong you are. You don't have to admit defeat. It was a battle of wits and you're unarmed.
@barcalonasucks16 In 1945, a Douglas A-26 Invader of the USAAF was adapted to carry two Highballs almost completely enclosed in the bomb bay. Drop tests were carried out at Eglin Field, Florida, but the program was abandoned after the bomb bounced back at A-26C-25-DT Invader 43-22644 on Water Range 60, causing loss of the rear fuselage and a fatal crash on 28 April 1945.
@barcalonasucks16 Wow! You are dumb. I never said anything about when the attack on the dams were done. The test in 1945, WHERE THE BOMB TOOK THE TAIL OF THE A_26's TAIL, was by an USAAF plane and crew. If you watched the Nova show, you weren't paying attention. Go watch it again and watch the part WHERE THE BOMB TOOK THE TAIL OF THE A_26's TAIL! Then come back and cry.
@ahz...looks like the bomb bounced up and hit the tail. If you follow its trajectory, the bomb is in exactly the right place to do the damage. Good Lord...what a HORRIFIC crash....poor guys. By the way, that's an A-26 Invader, right?
Very interestingly after the success of the dam raids upkeep was also tested on land, specifically on the Ashley Walk Bombing Range in the New Forest. The hope was that it could also be used on land targets but the varying ground surface caused the bomb to fly off in any direction. The same range was used to test the Grand Slam bomb, the crater still being visible today. Within 24 hours of the test, the next bomb destroyed the Bielefeld viaduct which had survived many previous bombing raids.
You're right. It was a Douglas Invader. Modified by Vickers.
28 April - A-26C-25-DT Invader, 43-22644, assigned at Wright Field, Ohio, crashes into the Choctawhatchee Bay, 3 Miles NE of Fort Walton, Florida after being struck by a test Speedee (Highball) bouncing bomb which tears off tail unit, bomber instantly nosing over into the water. It had taken off from Eglin Field, Florida, on a low level bombing exercise at AAF water range Number 60.
interesting fact that i never knew barnes wallis got the idea for this from admiral nelson as he used to skip cannon balls off the water and into enemy ships.he even yorked a french battleship (for those up on cricket terminology).what a fantastic nation we used to be
What sort of planning went into the American trials? Did they study the RAF experiences or just tell the poor A 26 crew to start at 20 feet and work their way up?
i find it fascinating how they made these bobms especially the inventor that diedi saw a programme on tv of the bouncing bomb the revolutions per minute spinning from 1 of these bomds is 1500rpm imagine if that hit u fuck ud be dead it amazes me though
It's just as well those people who think the plane @ 0:43 is a Wellington weren't in the Royal Observer Corps or any kind of job where correct aircraft recognition is critical. How anyone could mistake an A26, particularly with that distinctive vertical fin, for a Wellington is baffling. Sadly, the Invader made a prior run at higher level, seen @1:44, in which the bomb's first bounce goes way above it, so there's a horrible feeling of inevitability watching it come in even lower.
Ironically on tv last night in uk a programme about a professor re creating the whole process of dropping a bouncing bomb from a DC4 as all Barnes Wallis notes had been lost he had to re calculate from scratch. It worked too.
The tests with a ship towards the end were done in a Scottish loch. The ship was an old French WW1 battleship the Admiral Courbet. these tests were for possible use against the Tirpitz, holed up in Norway and surrounded by torpedo nets, so something was needed that could bypass these. I guess this is as close as the whole bouncing bomb chapter got to "633 Squadron", Mosquitoes and all!
It is a B25 USAAF or USN tested it too i remember it from the tv programme, what i would like to know if this was remotely controlled aircraft or were the crew killed
The US trial was fatal. Terrible that men died just to test it.
The Germans got one from the dam raid intact, but they couldn't fathom the spin element.
Still makes my skin tingle watching the films. What a beautiful conclusion to such a typically British adaptation of a simple principle from childhood.
In answer to a previous comment the music is indeed from 633 Squadron, which had a dramatised storyline, I think partially inspired by the Dambusters.
The aircraft being hit by the Highball is an A-26 Invader being used in tests for American use of the weapon on a lake in Florida. This video is a mixture of Upkeep and Highball tests and training: you can tell the difference because Upkeep was just a barrel shape, whereas Highball had tapered ends.
One of those undertakings where genius lies in simplicity. Torpedo nets prevented the conventional method of destructions, so the "bouncing drums" were the solution.
@ptf6rg311sqd23u.Yup, on the subject of confidence:- There was a video on YT (typically, I can't find it now !) showing the perspective from an observer on the deck of that 'target-ship'. They even look over the side when the 'bomb' (dummy?) strikes the hull !?!.
I think the bombs are the smaller high-balls (for mosquitoes) and not the up-keeps (for Lancs).
@bobohomania Because of torpedo nets. These were specifically designed to stay above the surface, reach the target, sink and then explode at a depth (which is more effective).
@carroj9 Wiki has info on 618 Sqn, formed to carry Highball (and not to be confused with the Lancaster equipped 617 Sqn). Although they had individual plane markings they don't seem to have carried a squadron code, see the rafweb site for some images.
The Brits didn't use torps for dam busting because dams could be protected by booms and nets. Torp runs into net/boom, blows it up, dam is unharmed. More, the explosive in the bouncing bomb was about two thirds the total weight of the bomb. A torp is one eighth or less explosive. Nor would a torp strike the dam as hard a bouncing bomb.
The aircraft crashing around about 45 seconds on the clip is an american aircraft when they americans tried the bouncing bomb technique out after the war.
The music here is from 633 Squadron, itself an admirable film and soundtrack, but of course the Dambusters March would be more appropriate for this footage.
@TheSpartanWarrior01 did you get the details for the music? if i remember rightly, the music score was from a film called 633 squadron, about some mosquito's raiding installations in norway.
The ship is the ageing Queen Elizabeth-class 15in gun battleship HMS Malaya. The Highball tests were done in February 1944 on Loch Long, hence the mountains - something Fenland isn't known for. HMS Malaya suffered some damage.
@ukdotcom , I think Highball must have spun like Upkeep. If you watch 2:24-2:26 in metalmelvin's clip, y just after the bomb has crashed into the retaining wall and isn't moving forward anyomore, you'll see a sudden white cloud where the bomb, still spinning, is spraying water into the air, forming a white cloud. Not conclusive, but suggestive.
I am afraid the bomb itself required such a low release in order to bounce as many times as planned. The later piece of film looking rearward from the plane shows the bomb bouncing higher than the camera. Dangerous business.
A more appropriate choice of music might have been 'The Dambuster's March', by Eric Coates, as opposed to the theme from the film '633 Squadron', if I may say so.
At 1m 30s The bottom of the picture a group of people are standing on the beach, 1 man is waving his arms, It is in fact Barnes Wallis himself watching the test at Reculver beach The 3 planes before the tragic crashare Mosquitos practicing with the smaller "Highball" bouncing bombs
Yes it is Wallis but the film was taken at Gibraltar Point Skegness. At Reculver the bombs were dropped on a course parallel to the beach. Many of these films were taken by Louis Klemantaski who after the war distinguished himself as a motor racing photographer.
@spitfireJEJ I stand corrected,According to the Paul Brickhill book about 617 Sq The bits falling from the Lancaster at 0;14 and/or 0;18 were part of the ailaron being torn off by the water jetting upwards. The pilot had a hell of a time landing safely
@notwocivad. Absolutely right. I happen to be reading a new book about Wallis and his inventions "Bouncing Bomb Man" by Iain Murray published by Haynes. Fascinating stuff. For instance, the Sorpe dam was attacked in October 1944 by another squadron using Tallboy bombs on the "dry" side. Although hit several times, the dam still did not yield.
If i told you that it was a mocked up ship, would you believe me? No ship could actually sail up to where the bombing range is because of the Fenland, only flat bottom barges can travel there. It was a mock up of a battleship,
Also the Dambusters also practised at Gib Point in Skegness (where the bomb bounces ashore)
@FormerFF Well said. Also the creative inventors should be lauded. I don't know why I haven't seen this used much more extensively. Did it come in too late? When dropped with proper precausions(altitude) it looks like it could be a highly effective ship buster.
@bfgray They did try to use them against ships: the version designed for use against ships was codenamed Highball - the one used on the dams was codenamed Upkeep. However, there weren't really any targets that they'd be useful against: ships didn't carry torpedo nets while underway, for obvious reasons. Additionally, the torpedo struck below the waterline, whereas the Highball would hit the heavy belt armour designed to take naval shells. No reason to use a Highball instead of a torpedo.
@SerenissimaRepublica Thank you, I might have thought of that myself eventually, lol. Very good points. Makes sense to me esp. in light of lethal testing results.
@SerenissimaRepublica FYI; Highballs were also used in the film Mosquito Squadron. There was also an even smaller bouncing bomb called Baseball, designed for use by MTB's - can you believe it!
@SerenissimaRepublica Highball was developed to attack the battleship Tirpitz while it was anchored in a fjord in norway. It had torpedo nets and the high ball bombs were designed to explode below the waterline using hydrostatic fuses. It was never used in the end because we sank the tirpitz before they were ready
Highball and Mosquitos was long after the dams raid. Still check out the two Lancasters in the first moments of the video lose most of their control surfaces in the first splash after the bomb drop. They were lucky to get home - and that was just the testing! They were still evaluating bomb weight - shape and ideal height/speed at that point.
one of the most dramatic changes to the basic Lancaster airframe came in the early montha of 1943, with the requirement for the aircraft to be modified to carry and deliver 'upkeep' Dr Barnes Wallis's mine.
the idea was to bomb the dams of the German Rhur in operation Chastise. the mines were delivered by Lancasters of the newley formed No.617 squadron on the night of 16/17 May 1943.
Why did that plane crash? Is the exact cause known? Seems that something did a real number on the tail section just as the bomb was hitting the water.
Troy! It was the bouncing bomb itself which bounced back and took the tail off! The lancs dropped at 60ft, but that American aircraft appeared to drop a lighter bomb at about 20ft, with inevitable results, and little time to avoid the first bounce.
That's sad. Any idea how many people died? I bet Wallis & his colleagues were wracked by guilt and kicking themselves for not having anticipated that eventuality.
I think,Troy it shows probably 3 brave men going to a rather rapid death. The Americans decided against the use of the bouncing bomb after a number of tests. Barnes Wallis was devasted with the aircrew losses during the Dam Busters raid, and devoted his later work to pilotless aircraft.
Perhaps,FLWLES you had better take a closer look, the film shows an A26 Invader dropping a highball bomb during later American tests of the weapon. Needless to say the use of the bomb was abandoned.OK buddy!
amazing.
simple and effective.
TheGlebed 2 days ago
Would any of you, who have seen the movie, "The Dam Busters" think the movie could be done today with the dog's name and the code word for the dam was busted unchanged?
zarniwoop42 1 week ago
@zarniwoop42......No...
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After seeing the splash go that high and the bomb bounce up and hit the plane. Would you want to be in the rear plane during the 3 plane drop test? It's a wonder he didn't get wacked.
zarniwoop42 1 week ago
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zarniwoop42 1 week ago
Watching this makes me want to skip a lit M-80 across my rotten neighbor's pool and watch it sink at the far wall..
ronetteloverz 1 week ago 3
@ronetteloverz LOL!
zarniwoop42 1 week ago
Well THAT's the reason for the crash. The Army Air Corp (US Air Force) did the test and it's over water. LOL.
zarniwoop42 2 weeks ago
@zarniwoop42 you do realize that the united states air force had nothing to do with this operation. It was ran by the british and canadian air forces
barcalonasucks16 1 week ago
@barcalonasucks16 Were you ever told, "If you don't know what you're talking about keep you mouth shut"? You need that here. While the RAF, Canada, New Zealand, and Austrialia were involved with the dam raid. That is not what this vid and discussion is about. This vid is about the U.S. seeing if the bouncing bomb could be used against ships. They got to low in the tests and the crew was killed. The test before this one the water hit the tail and they went lower.
zarniwoop42 1 week ago
@zarniwoop42 no this was GB
barcalonasucks16 1 week ago
@barcalonasucks16 O.K. for this idiot and others who don't know what they're talking about. Go to the PBS website and watch, "NOVA - Bombing Hitler's Dams". About 50 min. into the video. I recommend the whole show, it's a great show. You'll see the same footage as here. However don't stop there, keep going and they'll show it again.Listen to the narrator very closely. After you see how wrong you are. You don't have to admit defeat. It was a battle of wits and you're unarmed.
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zarniwoop42 1 week ago
@barcalonasucks16 In 1945, a Douglas A-26 Invader of the USAAF was adapted to carry two Highballs almost completely enclosed in the bomb bay. Drop tests were carried out at Eglin Field, Florida, but the program was abandoned after the bomb bounced back at A-26C-25-DT Invader 43-22644 on Water Range 60, causing loss of the rear fuselage and a fatal crash on 28 April 1945.
zarniwoop42 1 week ago
@zarniwoop42 the bombing of the german dams happened in 1944 just watched an episode on nova about it
barcalonasucks16 1 week ago
@barcalonasucks16 Wow! You are dumb. I never said anything about when the attack on the dams were done. The test in 1945, WHERE THE BOMB TOOK THE TAIL OF THE A_26's TAIL, was by an USAAF plane and crew. If you watched the Nova show, you weren't paying attention. Go watch it again and watch the part WHERE THE BOMB TOOK THE TAIL OF THE A_26's TAIL! Then come back and cry.
zarniwoop42 1 week ago
@zarniwoop42 did anybody post that shot of the a-26 going down?
Or the NOVA re-enactment?
biukucanoe 6 days ago
@biukucanoe Yeah. Right here. About 45 sec. into the video.
zarniwoop42 3 days ago
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zarniwoop42 1 week ago
NOVA just ran this as a part of "Bombing Hitler's Dams"
That is indeed a Douglas A-26 Invader that loses it's tail to splash or bomb..
In USAAF tests for possibly skip bombing Jap shipping
Which it was is irrelevant,, the crew DIED instantly..
Wallis had bent Lancasters from being to close to the splash..
J.C.
375GTB 2 weeks ago
@ahz...looks like the bomb bounced up and hit the tail. If you follow its trajectory, the bomb is in exactly the right place to do the damage. Good Lord...what a HORRIFIC crash....poor guys. By the way, that's an A-26 Invader, right?
TeekiesPlace 3 weeks ago
@TeekiesPlace Dead-on; that's an A-26 (look at the tail).
VagabondAstronomer 2 weeks ago
0:42 FAIL
thegreysniper 1 month ago
Very interestingly after the success of the dam raids upkeep was also tested on land, specifically on the Ashley Walk Bombing Range in the New Forest. The hope was that it could also be used on land targets but the varying ground surface caused the bomb to fly off in any direction. The same range was used to test the Grand Slam bomb, the crater still being visible today. Within 24 hours of the test, the next bomb destroyed the Bielefeld viaduct which had survived many previous bombing raids.
DinoDoesStuff 1 month ago
didnt see that commin did they.....the engiuety of war is amazing great post :-)
weedgrip 1 month ago
When the barrel hit the tail, the shit hit the fan... or something like that. Anyway it must have hurt.
LaburnumDorado 1 month ago
Barnes Wallis was a genious. Simply put.
ovemunk 2 months ago
my ancester somewhere along the line helped to build the bomd i think his name was Bob Catlin.
flyawayreborns95 2 months ago
Amazing and terrible to see the A-26's wings bend downward with the drastic nose-down pitch after the tail is torn off.
abdwyer 2 months ago
@higfny
You're right. It was a Douglas Invader. Modified by Vickers.
28 April - A-26C-25-DT Invader, 43-22644, assigned at Wright Field, Ohio, crashes into the Choctawhatchee Bay, 3 Miles NE of Fort Walton, Florida after being struck by a test Speedee (Highball) bouncing bomb which tears off tail unit, bomber instantly nosing over into the water. It had taken off from Eglin Field, Florida, on a low level bombing exercise at AAF water range Number 60.
fizzylogik 3 months ago
@biskut0024 that is, if I'm not very much mistaken, an American plane. All aboard died and thebus upkeep project was stopped
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Lmao @43 seconds!
biskut0024 3 months ago
Looks like they were released with some spin already on them.
rickcain2320 3 months ago
@rickcain2320 they where, with quite a lot of spin actually, but i cant remember how much
higfny 3 months ago
Plane buster as well )
Roman007M 4 months ago
0:45 FAILBUSTER
Citoex 4 months ago
interesting fact that i never knew barnes wallis got the idea for this from admiral nelson as he used to skip cannon balls off the water and into enemy ships.he even yorked a french battleship (for those up on cricket terminology).what a fantastic nation we used to be
clammy666 4 months ago
0:45 ZOMG, I hope he will be okay.
hashish2007 5 months ago
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bakkus1985 5 months ago
Very nice and useful video, thanks for your up loaded
kyffaa 5 months ago
My God, we're good!
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*LOL* ..if mass murders were good, than the Allies were probably best, above all the Russians.
hatebreederish 1 month ago
What sort of planning went into the American trials? Did they study the RAF experiences or just tell the poor A 26 crew to start at 20 feet and work their way up?
HiWetcam 7 months ago
omg at :41 Did the bomb hit the tail, or did the water splash take it off?
ahz123 8 months ago 5
@ahz123 water splash took off the tail, killed pilot and co-pilot
olicarey 8 months ago
@ahz123 the barrel hit the tail
MrGhoti69 3 months ago
@ahz123 The bomb hit the tail, i went to a lecture today on it with the people who did the remake for channel 4 :)
IndigoHerts 2 months ago
i find it fascinating how they made these bobms especially the inventor that diedi saw a programme on tv of the bouncing bomb the revolutions per minute spinning from 1 of these bomds is 1500rpm imagine if that hit u fuck ud be dead it amazes me though
MrSwifty2 8 months ago
It's just as well those people who think the plane @ 0:43 is a Wellington weren't in the Royal Observer Corps or any kind of job where correct aircraft recognition is critical. How anyone could mistake an A26, particularly with that distinctive vertical fin, for a Wellington is baffling. Sadly, the Invader made a prior run at higher level, seen @1:44, in which the bomb's first bounce goes way above it, so there's a horrible feeling of inevitability watching it come in even lower.
mjeshaw 8 months ago
Ironically on tv last night in uk a programme about a professor re creating the whole process of dropping a bouncing bomb from a DC4 as all Barnes Wallis notes had been lost he had to re calculate from scratch. It worked too.
carroj9 9 months ago
the plane you are all talking about isnt a Vickers Wellington or a B 25 Mitchell, its a Douglas A 26 invader
banjoman713 9 months ago
@banjoman713 You are right i forgot the B25 was a twin fin
carroj9 9 months ago
The tests with a ship towards the end were done in a Scottish loch. The ship was an old French WW1 battleship the Admiral Courbet. these tests were for possible use against the Tirpitz, holed up in Norway and surrounded by torpedo nets, so something was needed that could bypass these. I guess this is as close as the whole bouncing bomb chapter got to "633 Squadron", Mosquitoes and all!
phaasch 9 months ago
It is a B25 USAAF or USN tested it too i remember it from the tv programme, what i would like to know if this was remotely controlled aircraft or were the crew killed
carroj9 9 months ago
@carroj9
The US trial was fatal. Terrible that men died just to test it.
The Germans got one from the dam raid intact, but they couldn't fathom the spin element.
Still makes my skin tingle watching the films. What a beautiful conclusion to such a typically British adaptation of a simple principle from childhood.
timpovikings 8 months ago
Hi could you tell me how i could get a copy of this as i am trying to teach a group of air cadets about the Dam Busters and this would be great.
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Get a downloader and install it on your computer. Ant.com is a good one.
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I used to be an ATC Instructor with 491 Squadron in warwicks and birmingham wing sadly now disbanded
carroj9 8 months ago
Awesome film! Amazing idea of bouncing bomb!
vyamaltsev 1 year ago
In answer to a previous comment the music is indeed from 633 Squadron, which had a dramatised storyline, I think partially inspired by the Dambusters.
malcs0 1 year ago
@malcs0 I am so disappointed that 633 Sqn was fiction!
martynpank 11 months ago
If you also watch carefully, you can also see several Highball tests being made against a fake battleship (including turrets and such).
SerenissimaRepublica 1 year ago
The aircraft being hit by the Highball is an A-26 Invader being used in tests for American use of the weapon on a lake in Florida. This video is a mixture of Upkeep and Highball tests and training: you can tell the difference because Upkeep was just a barrel shape, whereas Highball had tapered ends.
SerenissimaRepublica 1 year ago
One of those undertakings where genius lies in simplicity. Torpedo nets prevented the conventional method of destructions, so the "bouncing drums" were the solution.
BenAliGtor 1 year ago
It was a Avro Lancaster modified bombers, as far as i see.
korchik 1 year ago
there Wellington, not Lancasters
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Barnes Wallis was an INVENTOR!
Patently Creative
ptf6rg311sqd23u 1 year ago
Barnes Wallis was an INVENTOR1
Patently Creative
ptf6rg311sqd23u 1 year ago
@ptf6rg311sqd23u He designed the wellington with its geodtic construction and also apparently a plane that could fly round the world non stop
carroj9 8 months ago
(Sorry about the spelling mistakes in the previous comment).
The observers watching this were certainly confident when you consider how close they were to the final position of the "test bomb"!
ptf6rg311sqd23u 8 months ago
@ptf6rg311sqd23u.Yup, on the subject of confidence:- There was a video on YT (typically, I can't find it now !) showing the perspective from an observer on the deck of that 'target-ship'. They even look over the side when the 'bomb' (dummy?) strikes the hull !?!.
I think the bombs are the smaller high-balls (for mosquitoes) and not the up-keeps (for Lancs).
MrSHAJW 8 months ago
DAMN!!! That `s too close for comfort at 1:42!!!
pitbull73 1 year ago
keiper has about as much film making ability as a pig in shit
darkmossie633 1 year ago
henry keiper is a wanker, making comparison with Star Wars
-he has banned and blocked me from making comments on his videos
what he fails to admit, is that dambusters were real brave men, many of whom were killed on this iconic raid
darkmossie633 1 year ago
why didnt they use torpedos the one dropped from planes?
bobohomania 1 year ago
@bobohomania Because of torpedo nets. These were specifically designed to stay above the surface, reach the target, sink and then explode at a depth (which is more effective).
LaRoza77 1 year ago
the planes are Vickers Wellington bombers, desighned by Barnes Wallis himself
gomo25904 1 year ago
My great great uncal is the most famous dambuster in squadran 617 he killed more then 4000 people
randompeep100 1 year ago
@randompeep100 What a strange comment to post?
ukdotcom 1 year ago
@randompeep100 sure, so he was a bomber who took part in dambusting and he had time to fly around and chech how many people drowned
dmied1 1 year ago
you know how scary it would be to see one of thoes things comeign at you at like 150 mph .... just bouncin ...
tuttoz 1 year ago
0:43
That was dumb. The pilot flew so low! No wonder that the dambuster caught him!
Kevinski1997 1 year ago
Does anyone know the identification codes on any of the Mosquitos dropping the High Ball?
harnois75 1 year ago
@harnois75 618 squadron was it i think
carroj9 8 months ago
@harnois75 i checked my book on squadron codes and they do not seem to have had one or a badge for 618 squadron
carroj9 8 months ago
@carroj9 Wiki has info on 618 Sqn, formed to carry Highball (and not to be confused with the Lancaster equipped 617 Sqn). Although they had individual plane markings they don't seem to have carried a squadron code, see the rafweb site for some images.
heneagedundas 8 months ago
0:45 OOPS!
kobevsjordan310 1 year ago
Check out the german bouncing bomb called Kurt, rocket powered ofcourse. quite impressive.
r1wantone 2 years ago
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Jonno2summit 2 years ago
The Germans had put in anti-torpedo nets in the reservoirs, and the Brits knew it.
Avantime 2 years ago
The Brits didn't use torps for dam busting because dams could be protected by booms and nets. Torp runs into net/boom, blows it up, dam is unharmed. More, the explosive in the bouncing bomb was about two thirds the total weight of the bomb. A torp is one eighth or less explosive. Nor would a torp strike the dam as hard a bouncing bomb.
leoamery 1 year ago
The aircraft crashing around about 45 seconds on the clip is an american aircraft when they americans tried the bouncing bomb technique out after the war.
flounderal 1 year ago
@flounderal the argraft is and american AG-20
Conorsev 1 year ago
@Conorsev.... All the reports and the official one i have read have said it was an A26 from 42nd BG, 100th BS lost May 5, 1945 near Tagalinog Island
flounderal 1 year ago
damn, the last two were going fast!!!
flamedrag18 2 years ago
Remindes me of skipping a stone across water. Same principle I think.
TheMoonCrystal 2 years ago
The music here is from 633 Squadron, itself an admirable film and soundtrack, but of course the Dambusters March would be more appropriate for this footage.
KeeperOfTheKitten 2 years ago
hey i love this music what is it called please could you tell me i want it so badly!!!. thank you
TheSpartanWarrior01 2 years ago
I can send you the music if you mail me your email. let me know
metalmelvin 2 years ago 2
@TheSpartanWarrior01 did you get the details for the music? if i remember rightly, the music score was from a film called 633 squadron, about some mosquito's raiding installations in norway.
tubbymarshall 1 year ago
@TheSpartanWarrior01
The music is the theme from 633 Squadron.
Which is a shame because there already is the Dam Buster's March
BrassPie 10 months ago
@TheSpartanWarrior01 it isTHE DAMBUSTERS MARCH
nignognobby 9 months ago
@nignognobby No, this is the music from 633 Squadron.
heneagedundas 8 months ago
@TheSpartanWarrior01 Sounds like 633 Squadron to me.
Sableagle 8 months ago
@Sableagle cuz it is xd
S06ka 4 months ago
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0:40 epic fail!!
these type of bombs crack me up LOL
pedekiller 2 years ago
poor guy at :44
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flounderal 2 years ago
The ship is the ageing Queen Elizabeth-class 15in gun battleship HMS Malaya. The Highball tests were done in February 1944 on Loch Long, hence the mountains - something Fenland isn't known for. HMS Malaya suffered some damage.
EdWoods4444 2 years ago
Were they live Highballs?
dave41184 2 years ago
This reply makes more sense to my enquiry regarding the mountainous background. Have you any more info?
ukdotcom 1 year ago
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i laughed when the bomb bounced up and hit the plane. Then i realized someone may have died... oops
bryankelly 2 years ago
The NOsquito could only carry the smaller 'highball' anti ship bomb, not the 'upkeep' bouncing bomb and all the wiring/motors to make it spin.
Xiolablu3 2 years ago
@Xiolablu3 Are you saying the mechanism to spin the bomb was not used for Highball? Facts please.
ukdotcom 1 year ago
@ukdotcom No, I am saying that the Mossie could not have carried/used the large dambusters bomb.
Xiolablu3 1 year ago
@Xiolablu3 I know the Mosquito could not accomodate Upkeep. What I am asking you is whether Highball had a spin system like Upkeep?
ukdotcom 1 year ago
@ukdotcom , I think Highball must have spun like Upkeep. If you watch 2:24-2:26 in metalmelvin's clip, y just after the bomb has crashed into the retaining wall and isn't moving forward anyomore, you'll see a sudden white cloud where the bomb, still spinning, is spraying water into the air, forming a white cloud. Not conclusive, but suggestive.
leoamery 1 year ago
why didnt they use mosquitos for the raid? there faster, smaller target to hit
dj8work 2 years ago
The bombs needed for the dams where way to heavy for the Mosquito, fantastic plane though.
sard37 2 years ago
That A26 Invader didn't stand a chance, pilot surely should of been warned to release higher in choppier seas!
Greatest respect to the crew for dying this way.
zucoy21z89 2 years ago
I am afraid the bomb itself required such a low release in order to bounce as many times as planned. The later piece of film looking rearward from the plane shows the bomb bouncing higher than the camera. Dangerous business.
spitfireJEJ 1 year ago
A more appropriate choice of music might have been 'The Dambuster's March', by Eric Coates, as opposed to the theme from the film '633 Squadron', if I may say so.
dinkydexy 2 years ago
At 1m 30s The bottom of the picture a group of people are standing on the beach, 1 man is waving his arms, It is in fact Barnes Wallis himself watching the test at Reculver beach The 3 planes before the tragic crashare Mosquitos practicing with the smaller "Highball" bouncing bombs
notwocdivad 2 years ago
Yes it is Wallis but the film was taken at Gibraltar Point Skegness. At Reculver the bombs were dropped on a course parallel to the beach. Many of these films were taken by Louis Klemantaski who after the war distinguished himself as a motor racing photographer.
spitfireJEJ 1 year ago
@spitfireJEJ I stand corrected,According to the Paul Brickhill book about 617 Sq The bits falling from the Lancaster at 0;14 and/or 0;18 were part of the ailaron being torn off by the water jetting upwards. The pilot had a hell of a time landing safely
notwocdivad 1 year ago
@notwocivad. Absolutely right. I happen to be reading a new book about Wallis and his inventions "Bouncing Bomb Man" by Iain Murray published by Haynes. Fascinating stuff. For instance, the Sorpe dam was attacked in October 1944 by another squadron using Tallboy bombs on the "dry" side. Although hit several times, the dam still did not yield.
spitfireJEJ 1 year ago
This would be fun if the bomb skip OVER the target instead of hiting it.
Wiktormotra 2 years ago
those things are damn weird...
WhamAndRun 2 years ago
Anyone know details of test against ship with Mossie at the end? where it was carried out? what was the ship? eyc
ukdotcom 2 years ago
It was RAF Wainfleet in Lincolnshire, the best live bombing range,
Unfortunatly the RAF have decided to close it down to save money
gunnermorph 2 years ago
Thanks, but does anyone know the name of the ship?
ukdotcom 2 years ago
If i told you that it was a mocked up ship, would you believe me? No ship could actually sail up to where the bombing range is because of the Fenland, only flat bottom barges can travel there. It was a mock up of a battleship,
Also the Dambusters also practised at Gib Point in Skegness (where the bomb bounces ashore)
gunnermorph 2 years ago
I'm intrigued, looks rather hilly for the fens. Any more info please let me know.
ukdotcom 2 years ago
@ukdotcom
They also practised in Yorkshire. Also they were based at Woodhall Spa in Lincs near the Lincolnshire Wolds
gunnermorph 2 years ago
Looked at Wainfleet and it seems pretty flat! do not think Highball film is there.
ukdotcom 2 years ago
Looks big enough to be a battleship
ukdotcom 2 years ago
Guy who guy killed, ouch...
krumpinAnnanth 2 years ago
Much more easy than stoneskipping...
Anyway, I'd like to see a skip bombing to see if there's a noticeable difference in the behavior of the bomb.
Taranis00 2 years ago
LOL at 0:44 - the bouncing bomb took off the Lancaster's tail and the whole thing takes a dip.
Halobenzene 2 years ago
Wasnt a Lacaster ,They have 4 engines and also 2 tails at the end , most likely a wellington or something.
camfroghoofy 2 years ago 2
It was I believe the American test using what looks like a Boston bomber.
StarTux 2 years ago
It was in fact an American test, StarTux but using a Douglas A26 Invader and after the war was over.
YrHen 2 years ago
Thanks, didn't know it occurred after the war and I tend to get the Boston and A26 mixed up.
StarTux 2 years ago
I was looking too...the large square tail ..A-26..?..there is another shot toward the end of another A-26..I thought I was seeing things..
Marauder0090 2 years ago
@camfroghoofy They are A-26C Invaders.
LaRoza77 1 year ago
@camfroghoofy It was a lightning or a mosquito, forget which one is british
MultiAREE 1 year ago
@MultiAREE mosquito is the british one.
streetstream 1 year ago
@camfroghoofy maybe a A-20 known as the boston
thresher4 1 year ago
@camfroghoofy
enlgish bomber right?
planes3333 1 year ago
@camfroghoofy ::I think the Lancasters were modified, according to a docu and the book.
AlfaAxel 1 year ago
Nice Historical Video! Responding to - ddandyy,the video with the bouncing bomb hurtling towards camera is - dambuster raid.
kindbluey 2 years ago
thanks.you finally found the footage for me.
ddandyy 2 years ago
The Nazi rocket powered bouncing bomb took a giant turd on this skimming freak.
thegafferlives 2 years ago
0:44 could have seen that coming... :/
flyerholland 2 years ago
oooo. Epic Fail 0:44
element4c 2 years ago
Brave men died at that moment. Certainly you can honor their sacrifice with something more eloquent than "Epic Fail".
FormerFF 2 years ago 43
Sacrificial Fail.
ollythewally1 2 years ago
@FormerFF Well said. Also the creative inventors should be lauded. I don't know why I haven't seen this used much more extensively. Did it come in too late? When dropped with proper precausions(altitude) it looks like it could be a highly effective ship buster.
bfgray 1 year ago
@bfgray They did try to use them against ships: the version designed for use against ships was codenamed Highball - the one used on the dams was codenamed Upkeep. However, there weren't really any targets that they'd be useful against: ships didn't carry torpedo nets while underway, for obvious reasons. Additionally, the torpedo struck below the waterline, whereas the Highball would hit the heavy belt armour designed to take naval shells. No reason to use a Highball instead of a torpedo.
SerenissimaRepublica 1 year ago
@SerenissimaRepublica Thank you, I might have thought of that myself eventually, lol. Very good points. Makes sense to me esp. in light of lethal testing results.
bfgray 1 year ago
@SerenissimaRepublica FYI; Highballs were also used in the film Mosquito Squadron. There was also an even smaller bouncing bomb called Baseball, designed for use by MTB's - can you believe it!
BADALASS 11 months ago
@SerenissimaRepublica Highball was developed to attack the battleship Tirpitz while it was anchored in a fjord in norway. It had torpedo nets and the high ball bombs were designed to explode below the waterline using hydrostatic fuses. It was never used in the end because we sank the tirpitz before they were ready
thealexthing 10 months ago
@SerenissimaRepublica except of course the bombs were only fused to go off once they'd reached a certain depth below water...
DARolph 8 months ago
@bfgray we had torpedoes for ships lol much more effective
wetend123 10 months ago
can anyone direct me to the footage of when a bouncing bomb bounced towards the camera.
ddandyy 3 years ago
i love watching this.
its amazing how that actually works
myskate12 3 years ago
Highball and Mosquitos was long after the dams raid. Still check out the two Lancasters in the first moments of the video lose most of their control surfaces in the first splash after the bomb drop. They were lucky to get home - and that was just the testing! They were still evaluating bomb weight - shape and ideal height/speed at that point.
graemejwsmith 3 years ago
Practising. For god's sake's man. Pull yourself together and get your damn spelling in order.
Carry on.
moosey62 3 years ago
sorry my mistake its Ruhr not Ruhr.
also i ment months instead of montha.
benjokazooie 3 years ago
one of the most dramatic changes to the basic Lancaster airframe came in the early montha of 1943, with the requirement for the aircraft to be modified to carry and deliver 'upkeep' Dr Barnes Wallis's mine.
the idea was to bomb the dams of the German Rhur in operation Chastise. the mines were delivered by Lancasters of the newley formed No.617 squadron on the night of 16/17 May 1943.
benjokazooie 3 years ago
wow that spash ripped through metal like butter
tagaEskinita 3 years ago
Super invention, et méconnue
ydrareg 3 years ago
Why did that plane crash? Is the exact cause known? Seems that something did a real number on the tail section just as the bomb was hitting the water.
TroyOi 3 years ago
Troy! It was the bouncing bomb itself which bounced back and took the tail off! The lancs dropped at 60ft, but that American aircraft appeared to drop a lighter bomb at about 20ft, with inevitable results, and little time to avoid the first bounce.
YrHen 3 years ago
That's sad. Any idea how many people died? I bet Wallis & his colleagues were wracked by guilt and kicking themselves for not having anticipated that eventuality.
TroyOi 3 years ago
I think,Troy it shows probably 3 brave men going to a rather rapid death. The Americans decided against the use of the bouncing bomb after a number of tests. Barnes Wallis was devasted with the aircrew losses during the Dam Busters raid, and devoted his later work to pilotless aircraft.
YrHen 3 years ago
wtf american aircraft????
have another look buddy i fail to see any american planes there
FLWLES 3 years ago
Perhaps,FLWLES you had better take a closer look, the film shows an A26 Invader dropping a highball bomb during later American tests of the weapon. Needless to say the use of the bomb was abandoned.OK buddy!
YrHen 3 years ago