Tibet WAS,IS,and ALWAYS WILL BE a part of China by NZKOF

[HumanRightsVideosT]

@ NA Support

Is Al Jazeera biased ???

[elazar79]

Wrong! Tubo is free and before the monggol, Tubo was a free state, that example Kingdom of Tufan, Kingdom of Tufan is the kingdom of Tubo. That is a fact. The Monggol rode Tufan, like their rode Xi Xia dan Jin. That is occupied! Like Cummy do in 1949!

[SoundOfHell1]

They killed more than 2MILLION, 20% of Tibetan people. After the WW2, Chinks killed more than 70MILLION innocent people, and still killing civilians, including women and children! They have destroyed hundreds of Buddhist temples,

using violence to force Tibetans speak Chink language. CHINKS LIE about their respected spiritual identity Dalai-Lama a terrorist...

The world must see the TRUTH of CHINA!

CCP are MURDERERS!!! CHINA is a TERRORIST NATION!!!!!

CHINKS are the CRIMINALS!!!!

[woaihefei]

@SoundOfHell1 Have you been to China? Dont follow naively what others say. How bad other nations did in the world? British, French, German, Japanese, and currently American. The only reason that we dont criticise these countries (or less than China), it is only because the world (stupid fashionable things, so called culture, economy, knowledge...etc) is controlled by them. Following your reasoning, these nations are much more terrorist than Chinese.

[SoundOfHell1]

The Criminal Racisit TERRORIST Nation=CHINA

In fact, it estimated that a far larger number of 65,000,000 people had been victimized in China, and still persecuting minorities and committing human right violations ceaselessly. Especially in Tibet, more than 1,200,000 people, corresponding to roughly 20% of the total population, were massacred since being unfairly annexed to Communist China in 1955. Even now, the people in Tibet are still abused, and their cultures are being destroyed.

[rainyday2005]

@SoundOfHell1 hey little jap. eat some chinese shit. else we will nuke u. ok? ^+^

[SoundOfHell1]

CCP are MURDERERS!!! CHINA is a TERRORIST NATION!!!

CHINKS are the CRIMINALS!!!!

They killed more than 2MILLION, 20% of Tibetan people. After the WW2, Chinks killed more than 70MILLION innocent people, and still killing civilians, including women and children! They have destroyed hundreds of Buddhist temples,

using violence to force Tibetans speak Chink language. CHINKS LIE about their respected spiritual identity Dalai-Lama a terrorist...

The world must see the TRUTH of CHINA!!!"

[rainyday2005]

@SoundOfHell1 ^+^ keep on telling u that. this is what happen when u get nuked. the only one got nuked in the history. hahaha

[SoundOfHell1]

People, please listen!!! CHINA is a TERRORIST nation!!!

1)China has killed more than 8 million Tibetan people, and destroyed Buddhist temples, torturing and forcing Tibetans to speak in Chinky language.

2)Oppressed and murdered more than 2 million people in Uyghur.

3)Tortured and killed more than 5 million people in inner Mongolia, Turkey.

Chinks are MURDERERS. CHINKS are CRIMINALS!!!

The world shall join together to fight back the pollution,

Cancer of the world:CHINKS

[rainyday2005]

@SoundOfHell1 good doggie. now do it again. or no chinese shit for u today. ^+^

[woaihefei]

@SoundOfHell1 Stop your rubbish things. Criminals dont mean anything in the current world where the economic interests are the most important things! Western countries are the only beneficiaries of this economy of globalization. Every nation has his specificity, China had and has lots of problems, politically, socially...etc. But Chinese people are great, they are simple and hardworking. Their labor supports Western people's infinite consumption. Everyone here must say thanks to them.

[frygreenie]

Taiwan and Tibet WERE,ARE,and ALWAYS WILL BE integrity part of China , no doubt!!願當中國家犬, 不淪美國走狗! 我是台灣人, 更是中國人.

[roby1211]

Even under the Mongols, Tibet was not explicitly assimilated as part of the Yuan dynasty and in 1358 they got their independence, followed by China. In this sense then, the Ming never incorporated Tibet into their dynasty, albeit Tibet paid tribute to the Chinese - they were never a Vassal of the Ming. Jiajing then ceased relations with Tibet.

Fact 3 - 6 are anything but facts, they don't prove, like facts 1 and 2, that Tibet WAS always part of China. Very non-academic; very sentimental.

[SHUTUPNOOB654]

@roby1211 Tibet was a vassal of Ming, idiot.

[roby1211]

@SHUTUPNOOB654 On The Ch'ing Tributary System by J. K. Fairbank and S. Y. Têng. READ!!!

[SHUTUPNOOB654]

@roby1211 The Qing is a different dynasty, idiot.

[roby1211]

Wrong source sent in haste. No need for cursing.

Vassals and Tributary States are different! Tibet was tributary to the Ming - Ming didn't govern them! hence not a Vassal!. Helmut Hoffman, "Early and Medieval Tibet" or Snow Lion by Goldstein. The whole point is that they have not always been a part of "China"

[SHUTUPNOOB654]

@roby1211 during the Ming, the Tibetans had to accept the Ming emperor as their own emperor, and had to pay tribute to the capital. The also let troops into the area. I'm not even going to talk anymore, you are just a pathetic moron who knows absolutely NOTHING of Tibetan or Chinese history. You're just a band-wagon jumper, who says ''free tibet'' without knowing anything.

[roby1211]

@SHUTUPNOOB654 Spare me your dogmatic dribble. The point, i repeat again, is that the Ming never GOVERNED Tibet, hence not a VASSAL. It is you who is the "bandwagon jumper"; I never said "Free Tibet" I am saying Tibet has not always been a part of "China" - FACT!. This isn't an anti-chinese comment!. If your history is limited fine, be gone with you; but don't accuse me of knowing nothing because I don't agree with you!

[roby1211]

Fact 2 is an extremely poor argument, the Yuan Dynasty where not even Chinese; that is, Han. They where nomads from the Steppes of Mongolia. There is a reason why we call the Mongol invasion in the middle ages, as one of the largest land empires the world has seen, Mongol. Before the Yuan, the Tibetans did infact have an empire to the extent that they even allied themselves with the Arabs to fight to Chinese (661 - 750). However this empire lasted until 842 CE. in which it fragmented.

[roby1211]

I don't know If I should laugh or cry when watching this poorly made video. I was expecting solid facts, what I got was rants, raves, curses and the odd propaganda picture. If there are "solid facts" claiming that Tibet has always belonged to China (which I don't think there are) then this video's portrayal of such facts will make you cringe. Fact 1 doesn't really show that Tibet has always belonged to China, instead its a definition that is subject to change as time passes.

[russiangymfan]

"It's also kind of amusing how defensive China has gotten lately about world leaders meeting with the Dalai Lama"

Halcyon: Who are so-called "world leaders"? Wake up you biased racist! The world is much much bigger than a few west nations in where a lot of anti-China west politicians and groups as well as racists live. The voice of the world certainly include over 1.3 billion Chinese people's voices and voices from those non-west and non-racist nations and regions!

[Halcyonwanderer]

It's also kind of amusing how defensive China has gotten lately about world leaders meeting with the Dalai Lama. A bit jealous, maybe?

[Halcyonwanderer]

Does Tibet belong to China? No more than Poland belonged to Nazi Germany. Communist China took over Tibet by force in the 1950s. If Tibet is part of China as you say, then what is the entire world debating about? The only reason the UN/US hasn't 'liberated' Tibet like they have with so many other countries, is simply because Tibet has no value. Tibet is China's last trophy conquest. A grasping effort of a country to show power while half it's population lives in squalor and poverty.

[jacofan157]

@Halcyonwanderer, you say Tibet has no value? The land in which Tibet occupies contains the best natural resource that can control many other countries. It's called water. Almost half the world's population lives off the water flowing from Tibet. The world is running out of fresh water, and many of the biggest rivers that flow from Tibet are India, Pakistan, Vietnam, Laos, Thailand, Nepal, and Cambodia, oh yeah, and China. Also, many minerals can also be mined out, such as copper, iron, and lead

[STRLOL]

@Halcyonwanderer Going by that argument, the South doesn't belong to America, because they separated and the North took the South over by force.

[MrMinutemen]

it is know that the south-african historybooks said whites and blacks arrived in their lands at the same time(bullshit)..

now i wonder, who produced these historical charts?

freedom for all, we are change!!

[ooolzooo]

somebody please please tell me the name of the song used. I've been wondering for over a year

[Teniteee]

i agree with every one of your facts. im chinese and proud of it

[foxming]

youtube真无耻。原来这个视频点击率已经排在很前面的。现­在从零开始计了，是不是怕罗马系统瓦解阿。原来的视频呢。

[winnika228]

and tell me how many websites are blocked in China

[802tc]

First of all Tibet had been an independent country for thousands of years and was taking over by the evil chinise in 1959. Get your facts straight and the rest of your video is lies and basically a waste of time. Liberate Tibet. Stop the killing... were your human rights china

[tonysuthechineseguy]

yes yes then heaven starts raining down doughnuts and ford trucks the end.

[winnika228]

i suggest YOU get your facts straight. just go to wikipedia and read about the history of Tibet. Tibet was under the Qing Dynasty for quite a while. BYW, Tibet was invaded by Britain, why dont you say anything about that? Most Tibetans were slaves under the Dalai Lama rule, what about that?

[802tc]

slaves.. haha tibetans been and are still slaves to the communist chinese since they took over in 1959. yall need to get the facts straight rather then watching tv in chine were they show propaganda. dumassess

[yjaaron]

oh? you have all the facts straight already hun? even i lived in china for more than 20 years dont get the facts straight right? so where did you get the facts from? ur media on tv? ur mailbox? or in ur fucking dream? maybe the dog next door taught you hun? please, you know what we call ppl like you? yes, you are right, it is DUMBASS. and period

[winnika228]

how are they slaves to the communist chinese compared to what they were before the chinese govt came in? you need to get YOUR facts right.

[yjaaron]

its interesting to see a piece of shit talking about liberate tibet all over the web. tell you what moron, i dont want to spend time to discuss if tibet is part of china or not. its too deep for you, you know what you need to do now? go home and wash ur face then go to bed, have some sleep and next morning, maybe, i meant only maybe, ur sickness will be cured and the facts will be straight. lets cross fingers for you, haliluya!

[winnika228]

i dont think anything got through that head of yours just seeing you talked the way you did. You speak profanity and say haliluya? you have no respect so dont expect others to understand you

[mashiah1]

What's the name of the melody?

[WarrenEdwardBuffet]

copyright infringement

[Shiloh4662]

the Chinese are good at that !

[sm4096]

I am nzkof friend and wrote a great opinion piece about Tibet. Just follow the link from my profile.

[SovietPolice]

Whats the first song used for NZKOF's 中国的城市 Chinese cities 2008?Any kind soul can tell me??

[qwertyyau]

"religion is poison" just in case you didn't hear about it. The current Iraq and Afgan wars are against Muslim Fundamentalist... by Christian countries...? perhaps Mao was right!

[fiernocht]

@qwertyyau eh, calling america a christian country  isnt really yeah. but religion in the world of politics, should have no matter.

[qwertyyau]

3) obviously you know f all about China nor Tibet. B4 last years' riot Tibet was a hot tourist destination!

4) Richard Gere ... who!! tell me which other religious leaders hangs around films stars? I don't see the Pope doing it!

[qwertyyau]

2) which Western country doesn't mointor the internet? try creating a website to 'help' people to settle in the West. Again you WILL be monitored!

[qwertyyau]

NativeSupport: I assume you are comparing China with the West? so...

1) CNN,Fox,BBC,Reuters etc are NOT free nor indepdent, you might think they are, but try posting a pro Iraqi or Afgan 'resistant' comment on any of their forum. I can guarantee you it will not stay for long if at all.

[ricgore]

BBC is funded by UK gov, Fox by Right Wing neocons, CNN and Reuters are part of Big Media and will basically say anything that gets advertising dollars.

[prinznevsky]

the cheap shot about european-heritage people in the US and Australia is really dumb as well. that means technically, All the Han chanese need to move back to the Huang He valley in Henan province...

[ricgore]

And all Russians should live in Kiev, home of the original Rus.

[prinznevsky]

on the one hand, your totally wrong about the "part of china for thousands of years" line. on the other hand you are right about US and British cold war meddling. the bottom line is that the PRC's government has been oppressive to tibetan and uighur people, but they also have defacto rule of the area. If a country is going to claim multiculturality, then it needs to respect the cultures and not repress and discriminate against them.

[DrPork4freedom]

Free Tibet From CCP Bullies

[0LuckyInternetUser0]

in order to do that then stop rioting

[CaptainCool07]

"In the spring of 1934, a Chinese mission led by General Huang Musong, then Deputy Chief of the General Staff of the kuomintang regime, was dispatched to Lhasa with the official purpose of offering condolences to the late 13th Dalai Lama who died in late 1933 Huang left a representative office, along with a wireless set? in Lhasa; these could be actions which the Chinese considered marked their authority in Tibet".

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[alexluarizona]

I really appreciate the guy NZKOF, and the works he s been posting on Youtube, with those inspirational soundtrack, it renders even better effect than those utilized in the original movies

[rebeccaty]

watching this makes me want to cry..

[rjs3400]

個人唯一能夠同意不應該讓西藏獨立的理由是~國防安全~因為西藏­在唐代歷史上就是吐番~與蒙古新疆一樣~為亂中國邊疆~所以在大­一統帝國主義思考下~不讓這些民族與漢族為敵的方法~就是把他們­統一了~拘束在自己的國度內~新疆的東突基本上也是類似的情形~­身為漢族~我可以理解中國面對其他各族要求獨立時的不安

但是在唐代和蕃政策下~以及藏族信仰佛教以後~藏族就很少予漢族­起衝突了不是嗎?今天達賴並沒有說他要完全獨立呀?達賴還是說他­個人寧願看到西藏屬於中國~他與大部分藏人要的~只是文化上的獨­立~或者只要受到更多的尊重也就夠了~個人覺得中國政府根本不必­用這麼強硬的態度對付藏族~如果你們真的同意五十六個民族都是兄­弟手足?

發布這部片子的網友卻用強悍的口氣指出西藏一直都是中國的一部分­~西方美帝少來干涉中國內政~但這樣的態度只是讓其他國家覺得中­國政府根本就是蠻幹~何況中國文化對外族歸順從來都是秉持以德服­人的態度~而不是硬用槍桿子逼別人服氣~這樣的做法只是逼藏族更­想獨立出去罷了~真正要別人歸順你~應該要展現更寬闊的胸襟吧

最後~~~只能說~~~這支片子實在太漢族沙文主義了~~~雖然­我也是漢族~~~

[ElScotto]

Lol, the Dalai Lama is a puppet regime? What are you smoking?

[devttt]

Free Youtube!!

The censorship here is really terrible. The numbers of views is being locked at 17766.

[unit45x]

fool, it is not cencorship, it is just a glitch. It takes time for youtube to catch up and even then it messes up but it does not do it with a bias. It happens to everyone who is on youtube often enough. Fool!

[devttt]

Posted by NZKOF, to express my support, posted this again.