I'd say if he rejected the Bible because he went to Harvard (a liberal school), he went to the wrong seminary. I seriously doubt that he had faith in Christ; therefore, by definition, not a convert from Christianity despite his credentials. Good riddance, he shouldn't have been preaching in a church in the first place. We recognize that scholars can be liberal and exalt themselves over the Lord, and not even a good muslim. Again, one who can't understand, can't teach. See John 3:10-12 Nicodemus
I'd say if he rejected Christianity because he went to Harvard, then he went to the wrong seminary. Yes, the Bible does say there were differences and what the reasoning for them were--basically that you did not need to become a Jew to become a Christian. I seriously doubt that he had faith in Christ; therefore, by definition is not a convert from Christianity for all his "credentials." We recognize that some scholars are liberal, so they exalt themselves over the Lord, so not even good muslim.
@Heatherbloom75 "I seriously doubt that he had faith in Christ"
I seriously then doubt that you have any proof that he hadn't faith, because you base your thoughts on...doubts !
Christians converts in masses in western countries to Islam, cause like him, they discovered that Christianity isn't the original message of Jesus, no wonder it's confusing. And finally they discovered the message of Jesus in the Quran, which I advise you to look into, at least look at the sourat Mary, peace be upon her
@Domna7 I based my opinion on his own words that he did not believe several basic things that Christians believe. I forgot Muslims have this big thing about the word "doubt". I don't believe that he had true faith. Ah, I was just discussing an aspect of churches in America. They have been infiltrated by non-believing communists who are teaching "social justice" and "collective salvation." Now that is a perversion of the Gospel. They do not believe in the Bible nor in the sovereignty of God.
@Heatherbloom75 "I based my opinion on his own words that he did not believe several basic things that Christians believe."
If you had seen the video from the start, he stated that he was a true believer, he began studying when he was very young...
"I forgot Muslims have this big thing about the word "doubt"'
It's common sense, it's not just Muslims--> doubts are doubts, facts are facts. If you aren't sure, doesn't have any proof you cannot certificate anything.
@Domna7 I did see the video from the beginning. I watched five. He NEVER said he was a "true believer" as you claim. He said the church "was the center of community life" and he lists the activities that he did. We call it "checking the boxes". He never professed his belief or acceptance of Jesus or that he was baptised (though I do assume he went through the motions.) He calls himself "atypical" but he cannot use the word that we would use which is "apostate." Yes, we have them too.
@Heatherbloom75 I'm referring to the reasons that lead him to choose to study Christianity and becoming a ministry, He was truly passionate and sincere, to achieve graduation from Harvard University I think. Let's not do a "presume on intents". When he says I did not believed in the trinity concept, he is referring in his passage to Harvard, where he studied thoroughly about it--> see 00:0001:0501:25 here in this part 2. His non beliefs in trinity is the fruit of searches and historical facts
@Heatherbloom75 ""apostate." Yes, we have them too. " Yes apostate in the eyes of the trinitarian churches. But atypical is more precise, because it gives indication that he isn't rejecting Jesus as a prophet of God and some what he believed is maybe from his teachings. He just rejected what isn't true and doubtful to be from God.
@Heatherbloom75 "They have been infiltrated by non-believing communists who are teaching "social justice" and "collective salvation.""
I don't know about that but one thing for sure : The Original teachings of Jesus had been lost and the Church had been infiltrated long ago, by the franc-masons, before communism would be born.
@Domna7 His own words are "I had trouble with the concept of Jesus dying for someone else's sins" and you think that he can tell you anything about it? He rejected it because he did not understand it. But it is amazing that when he preached that message, many came to listen. But he doesn't say those same people believe his new message. That would be another matter. Whatever his mental reasoning is, it cannot replace faith in the Creator. He is also not the first pastor/deacon who did not believe
I'd say if he rejected the Bible because he went to Harvard (a liberal school), he went to the wrong seminary. I seriously doubt that he had faith in Christ; therefore, by definition, not a convert from Christianity despite his credentials. Good riddance, he shouldn't have been preaching in a church in the first place. We recognize that scholars can be liberal and exalt themselves over the Lord, and not even a good muslim. Again, one who can't understand, can't teach. See John 3:10-12 Nicodemus
Heatherbloom75 11 months ago
I'd say if he rejected Christianity because he went to Harvard, then he went to the wrong seminary. Yes, the Bible does say there were differences and what the reasoning for them were--basically that you did not need to become a Jew to become a Christian. I seriously doubt that he had faith in Christ; therefore, by definition is not a convert from Christianity for all his "credentials." We recognize that some scholars are liberal, so they exalt themselves over the Lord, so not even good muslim.
Heatherbloom75 11 months ago
@Heatherbloom75 "I seriously doubt that he had faith in Christ"
I seriously then doubt that you have any proof that he hadn't faith, because you base your thoughts on...doubts !
Christians converts in masses in western countries to Islam, cause like him, they discovered that Christianity isn't the original message of Jesus, no wonder it's confusing. And finally they discovered the message of Jesus in the Quran, which I advise you to look into, at least look at the sourat Mary, peace be upon her
Domna7 11 months ago
@Domna7 I based my opinion on his own words that he did not believe several basic things that Christians believe. I forgot Muslims have this big thing about the word "doubt". I don't believe that he had true faith. Ah, I was just discussing an aspect of churches in America. They have been infiltrated by non-believing communists who are teaching "social justice" and "collective salvation." Now that is a perversion of the Gospel. They do not believe in the Bible nor in the sovereignty of God.
Heatherbloom75 11 months ago
@Heatherbloom75 "I based my opinion on his own words that he did not believe several basic things that Christians believe."
If you had seen the video from the start, he stated that he was a true believer, he began studying when he was very young...
"I forgot Muslims have this big thing about the word "doubt"'
It's common sense, it's not just Muslims--> doubts are doubts, facts are facts. If you aren't sure, doesn't have any proof you cannot certificate anything.
Domna7 11 months ago
@Domna7 I did see the video from the beginning. I watched five. He NEVER said he was a "true believer" as you claim. He said the church "was the center of community life" and he lists the activities that he did. We call it "checking the boxes". He never professed his belief or acceptance of Jesus or that he was baptised (though I do assume he went through the motions.) He calls himself "atypical" but he cannot use the word that we would use which is "apostate." Yes, we have them too.
Heatherbloom75 11 months ago
@Heatherbloom75 I'm referring to the reasons that lead him to choose to study Christianity and becoming a ministry, He was truly passionate and sincere, to achieve graduation from Harvard University I think. Let's not do a "presume on intents". When he says I did not believed in the trinity concept, he is referring in his passage to Harvard, where he studied thoroughly about it--> see 00:00 01:05 01:25 here in this part 2. His non beliefs in trinity is the fruit of searches and historical facts
Domna7 11 months ago
@Heatherbloom75 ""apostate." Yes, we have them too. " Yes apostate in the eyes of the trinitarian churches. But atypical is more precise, because it gives indication that he isn't rejecting Jesus as a prophet of God and some what he believed is maybe from his teachings. He just rejected what isn't true and doubtful to be from God.
Domna7 11 months ago 2
@Heatherbloom75 "They have been infiltrated by non-believing communists who are teaching "social justice" and "collective salvation.""
I don't know about that but one thing for sure : The Original teachings of Jesus had been lost and the Church had been infiltrated long ago, by the franc-masons, before communism would be born.
Domna7 11 months ago
@Domna7 His own words are "I had trouble with the concept of Jesus dying for someone else's sins" and you think that he can tell you anything about it? He rejected it because he did not understand it. But it is amazing that when he preached that message, many came to listen. But he doesn't say those same people believe his new message. That would be another matter. Whatever his mental reasoning is, it cannot replace faith in the Creator. He is also not the first pastor/deacon who did not believe
Heatherbloom75 11 months ago