Church wars in Jerusalem - 24 Oct 08

[bheadh]

Yeah, they might argue and fuss. But they don't have friday afternoon beheadings. Or beheadings on t.v. etc. We all know who the real murdering jackals are.

[paligrl3]

what do you mean by this place will be soon burn??

[Salamwamat]

You are the gay my muslim ex brother because the Jewish cock dosn't leave your mouth!

(-:

[sonicusr]

this place will soon burn

[sasunoosan]

AND YOU'RE A F+CKED MUSLIM HOMO!

[akvineee]

word. im praying for all of ya.

[fefe7774]

It is a shame before God that we continue to bicker about the upkeep of the Holy City. The scripture says that if the people who are Called by my name would humble themselves and pray the would I hear from heavan and heal the land . is ther any wonder the worl is in the shape it's in . We bickering in and about the house of God instead of praying.

[jdi0093113]

We should repair them to their original state and join together when it is something to do with a holy site

[SendekAlama]

There is no doubt that the Ethiopians are the rightful owners. This was a settled matter before the rebirth of Israel but later, not disappoint their only "Arab friend", they rued for the Egyptians despite the mountain of evidence. Following the outcry of justice loving people, the Israelis decided to keep a kind of status quo allowing the Egyptians to stay in the place they took while they were guests to the Ethiopians and, the Ethiopians maintain what they are left with. THAT is the FACT.

[sasunoosan]

That was in 1838. In 1970, to consolidate their claim, the Ethiopians waited until the Egyptians were attending mass at another church and promptly changed all the locks. The Israeli High Court has ruled that the chapel belongs to the Egyptians but Israel is reluctant to enforce the decision for fear of causing offence. Ethiopia has a sizeable Jewish population.

Love thy neighbour indeed.

[sasunoosan]

The dispute began some 350 years ago when the Egyptians allowed Ethiopian monks into the chapel as guests. They never left and later invited themselves into the monastery next door as well. The Ethiopians say that the Chapel is now theirs and claim they even held the deeds - until the Egyptians burnt them.

[morchid34]

im muslim and i say Jerusalem should be controled by United nations , yes U.N because the stupid religious can't live in peace and israel would like to make jerusalem a jewish city

[palanibaba]

god gave israilies somany chance.but they not use it right way.what happened to ariel sharon.they will not learn.

[dashinvaine]

At least the Holy Land has the Christians to set an example of tolerance, generosity and brotherly love.

[regulate112]

Kam3 ..The Jews have turned the HOLY LAND into a farce, letting even GAY PARADES in Jerusalem ..it must be reconquered by Muslims at ANY COST!

[sasunoosan]

I never heard any Gay parades ever been held in the holiest city of Jerusalem.

The only parades that always been organized in Jerusalem are the Christian processions such as Easter Sunday parade, Via Dolorosa, Christmas, etc.

[a0eoj]

If they could only realize that GOD is a myth, maybe they'd let the church collapse.

[inferno0020]

You are an idiot.

We all know that Egyptian mythes are myth, should the pyramid be collapsed?

Greek mythologies are myth, should we just destroy Greek architecture?

There is nothing wrong with God as a myth. Our problem is that religion had too much political influence.

[hunarf]

lol! well that is where you and I differ, people believe in the superiority of their religion and not its humble teachings. atheists and believers in god can debate till time stops if god does exists or not but the answer will come when you and I die.

[a0eoj]

hunarf - If you think you'll find the answer to the question of GOD's existence when you die, you're assuming some sort of awareness after death. It seems more likely that our consciousness will die along with our bodies. Why waste the only life you're sure to have pondering such absurdities as gods?

[hunarf]

Well I hardly think that is wasting my life, I hike, swim, bicycle, go to university and just basicly enjoy life aswell as go to a service or just pray and contemplate. I think we waste more time watching videos on youtube then actaully enjoying life but that again is my opinion.

[hunarf]

I wholly respect your points but I am not going to lose any sleep over what someone thinks of me or my believes especially online. We could argue all day on points, statistics, etc. (I have seen it done on other videos regarding faith) and honestly I dont want to do that.there is to much division in what we believe in nowadays and not on how we act towards each other. So say whatever you need to say I dont mind. =)

[d3adp001]

If they can behave this way they are no follower of Christ.

[cdahl24]

Cant we all just get along. What has god taught you.

[koolDeception]

World wide crashing of Bank's,Economy and casting Deprassion is a blueprint of new World war.

[ethioguy]

well said

[IMANSMUMMA]

I dont understand how is it that all these foreigners r allowed into this country (egyptian coptics, ethiopians etc..) yet a palestinian cannot reside in their OWN country?

Simple question>>> Y is it PALESTINIAN christians r not incharge of the churches in their OWN country? Y is leadership in foreign hands in the first place, and we wonder how these disputes arise?

[dackjaniels555]

Christians are hypocrites...

[Ariji86]

Christianity is copyright by Paul.

Christianity has been a failed religion.

[SirChadwic]

It all just seems so silly. Oh, how the Father must be ashamed of us all. Would'nt you think He would rather, his teachings, bring us together than to divide us? The "belived" place where Christ was buried should not be given any thought only the teachings of Christ. Even where Christ was crucified shouldnt be given any thought but.. for Christ's sacrafice for our sins.

These places mean nothing and should not be considered holy for Christ was our teacher/savior not where He live or died.

[Grokthan]

Teachings? What exactly has beliving in god 'taught' you?

[SonicPsycho]

Religion is annoying.

[blunt1984]

What a suprise? (That is a sarcastic statement)

The Israelis moved the Ethiopians there in the 1970s for POLITICAL REASONS!!!

Another example of Zionist Israel's tactics of dividing and conquering Christians (just like they did in the Lebanese Civil War) to the benefit of Jewish supremacy in the Holy Land!!!

Not surprising is that the Church of the Holy Sepulchre was in much better shape under the Muslim Ottoman Empire.

CHRISTIANS WAKE UP!

ISRAEL IS NOT YOUR FRIEND BUT AN ENEMY!

[novoyazemlya]

you are a complete retard. Just cause the Israeli government is full of crooks and dipshits like you doesn't mean everyone who lives there is. that is like saying everyone in Tajikistan is an islamic fundamentalist. Don't talk shit plz.

[blunt1984]

LMAO- You are the idiot pal. I'm talking about the State of Israel, its government and its military, NOT THE ISRAELI PEOPLE!

Most of them are actually far more moderate than their government.

[kam3Oen]

Israel makes up .014% of the earth's landsurface. That land belongs to the jewish people and the state of Israel. Whatever Israel wants to do on that land is their business. If they want to expel all Christians and Muslims, they can do that too.

[sajan4yall]

60 years ago, that land belonged to the arabs. Jews occupied that land with american and british help. Now How the fuck they have got the right to expell christians and Muslims. If arabs fight back for their land, They are called Terrorists. The truth has been manipulated by the power of media.

[kam3Oen]

Yah, and 150 years ago, Australia belonged to the Aboriginals. Time has a way of changing things. Today, Israel has hundreds of nuclear weapons, and isn't going anywhere. The arabs can fight, but they will lose, and will end up giving Israel a reason to completely expel them. Life isn't fair.

[regulate112]

kam3

Firstly,Crusaders were 100X more in number than the Israelis and had Jerusalem for 100+ Years!People thought they were undefeatable. Look what became of them!Only 1 man was required to unite the Muslims and victory-salahuddin!

Secondly..Yes,Israel has Nukes. But so does Pakistan (and Iran soon).If Israel wants to have a Nuclear War we have no problem with that!The difference between the Israelis and us Muslims,is that they love this life and materialism,but we love God and the next world!

[SpTironc]

Thats why you arabs keep loosing , because you think of the "next world" instead of this world. The Arabian Peninsula needs left wing politics!

[regulate112]

keep losing?I seem to remember Israel gettings ass kicked just 2 years ago by Hisbullah-142 dead Israeli soldiers in 34 days! All the Jews could do was bomb civilian centres from 10 000 feet in the sky!

Israel has a population of 6 Million, but recieves 44% of Total US Annual Foreign Aid! How pathetic, the world largest welfare state!

Left Wing?Dude,when Islam was the ruling power in the Arab world,we defeated the Romans,Persians,Byzantines,Mon­gols,Crusaders etc.Next on the hit list -->USA

[SpTironc]

1. Romans were defeated by themselves(civil war)

2. The Byzantines were defeated by the ottoman turks(not arabs)

3.Persians ruled the region with an iron fist, and the persian ruled arabs for many years.

4.Mongols conquered whole of asia and parts of europe, arabs never defeated the mongols.

5. Crusades lost to salahudin, yet today the new crusades rule the region n pmpng ur oil out whiel you arabs kill eachothr.

Left wing politics, where are the ARAB patriots and not the religius freaks

[regulate112]

4.Mongols did conquer,but they were eventually defeated and repelled back,with most of them accepting Islam (including Gengis khan's grandson)

5.What new crusaders? The Jews? LOL, I don't think they identify themselves as "Crusader" :p, since the crusaders did kill many of them lol. As for the oil, we are getting RICH RICH RICH! selling our EXPENSIVE oil to the West, while the west lingers on economic collapse! :p

[regulate112]

2.Ottomons affiliated their Empire directly with Islam. With their leader always having the title "Khalife" and ruling Mecca and Medina as being imperative.

3.Persians never entered the Arabian

Peninsula dude. I don't know where you getting your info from lol. After THOUSANDS of years of power, Umar(RA) the 2nd Khalife finally DECIMATED the Persians and their empire!

[regulate112]

1.Romans were defeated by the Ummayad Khalifate and their centre of power destroyed,resulting ultimately in their downfall. If they got mad with each other and had a civil war afterwards, good for them! :p

[a0eoj]

I'm an American atheist and if it were up to me, we'd quit defending Israel because of some stupid shared belief in a sky daddy. I don't care if you're Jewish, Christian, or Muslim; I think you're all fucking crazy!

[kam3Oen]

Regulate, are you saying there were 700 million crusaders? LOL BTW, you must not understand the concept of nuclear war. A single thermonuclear weapon (of which Israel has at least a hundred) could destroy a large city and kill millions of people. If Israel goes, the Islamic world will be turned to ashes. And for what, a tiny piece of land the size of New Jersey?

[regulate112]

700 Million?Not sure, but they did number in the millions.I don't see why this is revelent.There are only 6 Million Jews in Israel.

As for Nuclear Bombs, we have them also (Pakistan has HUNDREDS) and Iran is getting them soon. If Israel choses to Nuke Islamic Cities, Israel will be wiped off the Earth with our Nukes.

Take into consideration,50% of all Jews in the world are in Israel!As for Jerusalem,many Muslims shed blood for that HOLY LAND, we can never compromise it, it not just "land".

[kam3Oen]

Regulate, now you seem to understand the concept of nuclear war. You can't win a nuclear war. Sure, you can destroy Israel. Pakistan can destroy Israel tomorrow, but of course, Israel would immediately launch it's nukes at all of Pakistan's cities, along with hundreds more cities throughout the muslim world. I'm quite certain even the crazy mullahs in Iran understand this.

[regulate112]

Sir,I never claimed I wanted Nuclear War,but if it comes to that,it comes to that!

[kam3Oen]

Yup, and just remember, you'll never get rid of Israel without nuclear war and the deaths of hundreds of millions of arabs (and a few million jews). Just a simple fact.

[Franco20055]

sooooooo wat kam3Oen, we muslims fight for our god, if we die in a nuclear war or something then that is good cause we go striaght to paradise. it is a win -win situation for us. We muslims want long lasting life in paradise while you disbelievers want this world. I feel very sorry for you

[themengsk176]

I feel sorry for those trying to fool themselves into thinking that there is something better later on.

Live this life as you will, because it's the only one you're going to get. I feel sorry for someone living their life solely to somehow pass into something better and greater.

[sasunoosan]

Fyi, me as a graduate in political studies and International relation, Im totally forbidding any political-motivated movement by Islamic groups to conquer back Jerusalem and turn it into some sort of Islamic thingy because that actions itself will give Israelites more options to clasp Jerusalem from Christian and Muslim!

BTW Youre crap!

[Noliving]

and if jews fight for their land they are called zionists.

[latinofuker]

all go to hell

[batytoi]

fuk that place let um bang out

[y2raza]

lets have a holy royal rumble

[Jewishfan]

To be honest... None of these churches belong in Israel. Enough idolatry in Holy Land.

Wauoow... what racist thing to say... wauooow.

Right?

[johntabbot]

If the property belongs to the Egyptian coptic people, then it is up to them on whether there should be changes or not

[shincos]

there shouldn't be changes, this is a holy place, it should be kept the same. The idea of placing air conditioning systems and stuff is stupid, it makes me sick!! It's a holy place and it should stay this way.

[johntabbot]

I agree. The owners I believe do not want to change anything

[TaskiyahEmaani]

why cant they just fix it if its in danger?.... wierd.

[WKaliber1]

good good

[oceanbound222]

Izreal stoke the fires of hatred everywhere it can in an effort to destroy the Islamic world.  Izreal has its hand in every pie that explodes.

[ratonnewmex]

claim to be Holy and then fight over the holiest site in the world? amazing....truly truly spiritually FILTHY PEOPLE