Zeitgeist - Moving Forward Deception - Who are they? GR subs

[lefterisiam]

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ΖEITGEIST

"We are your problem but we can sell you the solution!"

ούτως ή άλλως τα Zeitgeist είναι γεμάτα κενα... (αλλά πολύ ελκυστικά/πειστικά μονταρισμένα...)

[warobsessive]

He points at the irrationality of the audience flying off the handle just screaming "Zeitgeist is NWO!" in either ZG:1 or Addendum PJ criticizes the NWO, warning of government surveillance, chipping, etc. However doesn't actually say the words "New world order". He's not promoting it.

[globalzombietion]

@warobsessive "He points at the irrationality of the audience flying off the handle just screaming "Zeitgeist is NWO!""

Zeitgeist isn't proposing a new order of a global scale to do things? By definition Zeitgeist is a new world order no matter how you see it, I don't know how to explain it simpler, it is a new idea that will replace the old and thus a new world order. Calling it NWO is rational as I proved you. How do you convince yourself that this order is not the one Bush talked about?

[warobsessive]

@globalzombietion you seem to imply that any system other than what we have today will be an Orwellian NWO with corporate overlords, police state, etc. How do you convince yourself that ZG is the The Orwell NWO? Not everything different is dangerous. Unless you define NWO in its literal sense which implies nothing immediately negative. Look up the aspects of the venus project and you can see they directly contradict everything we've come to know and hate of the O-NWO.

[globalzombietion]

@warobsessive No I don't imply that any system other than what we have today will be an Orwellian NWO. We are already an old Orwellian order and Zeitgeist will be the new Orwellian word order. Before asking me any questions answer the one I made you first. Despite that I'll tell you that I don't need to convince myself about this, it is so damn obvious that the only excuse someone can have for not seeing it, is that he is not aware of the political systems used on this video as accusations!

[warobsessive]

@globalzombietion well let's list them. communism, fascism, NWO as I heard.

though C=B+ and A, A cannot = B since they had major hostilities in the 40's

If I accuse you of being a communist it doesn't mean you are.

It's just easier to call something Marxist or NWO than to come up with an actual argument. What are the characteristics you think ZG and NWO will share?

As for your question, my answer is that in the previous 2 movies, they point fun at and slander the NWO and everything about them.

[globalzombietion]

@warobsessive You still thinking in terms of "sides" do you? "Ah look they are against them.." something like that? Of course they are against them, it is white vs black on a game of chess. What I am saying here is that you problem is the chessboard not the pawns. The Z is not any of the political systems entirely but a hybrid of all of them. Fascistic laws for the common good, the problem is that 1% has 40% of the wealth and it will be solved if I (the other 99%) give away my property? He he he

[warobsessive]

@globalzombietion if common good is fascism, then what is a gini coefficient of 70? Is that preferable? No one said the 99% had to give everything away. How do you compare Fascism to ZG?

[globalzombietion]

@warobsessive Common good is not fascism but forcing people to do something because it is the common good, is fascism. Fascism is also every mention of the words "world","central", "global" "union" and such on this film. In the term of the word "fascism" replace the word "nation" or "state" with the word "city" and you have Zeitgeist, replace the "centralized autocratic government" with "super computer" and you got your fascism. I told u it is a mix of all these political systems, not 1 entirely

[Lakopa8]

@globalzombietion DO YOU KNOW ANYTHING AT ALL ABOUT THE ACTUAL MOVEMENT?!?!?! THERE IS NO CENTRAL COMPUTER, THERE IS NO OVERARCHING POWER, THERE IS NO POLITICS!!!!!!

If you want to troll and waste time, so be it. If you want to actually present some REAL problems with the Movement, go for it. Try to actually target our weak points though, ok? Maybe like, I dunno, LEARN ABOUT US BEFORE YOU MAKE DUMBASS ASSUMPTIONS BASED ON A LIMITED UNDERSTANDING OF 1984.

[globalzombietion]

@Lakopa8 I already did, and your denial to see it is not gonna change that. I am not going to actually copy paste every sentence of the movie that supports my claims only so u can come up with an excuse about my "misunderstanding" of that sentence. I never said anything about a "CENTRAL COMPUTER" you screamed that, I am talking about the super computer that would be at the heart of every city. You know for a member of an awakening movement you have very limited perception.

/watch?v=RlPV26sKXB0

[Lakopa8]

@globalzombietion Seriously?

Ok, Jacques Fresco does not have any control over the Movement, TZM and TVP are sperate entities. What he proposes are just that, his proposals. There is no way in hell the super-computers are going to "revolt" or "assimilate humanity." Their directives will completely prevent that, as controlling humans will decrease our health, hence becoming an unchoosable option for the computers.

Even if we are creating something bad, it is NOT fascism or authoritarianism.

[globalzombietion]

@Lakopa8 The 3rd movie present them as one entity because the one part is the awakening and the other part is the solution for after the awakening. Without the one you can't have the other. It doesn't matter what you believe about the evolution of computers, what I gave you here is what the founder of TVP believes. Anyway such arguments have already been debunked if you watched the video I gave you. Zeitgeist was supposed to unite the world and can't even retain unity within it's members

[Lakopa8]

@globalzombietion Again, I have no idea what the fuck you are talking about.

TVP and TZM do not NEED each other, we are just more efficient when we work together.

You didn't "debunk" anything. What Jacques said in the past isn't what he believes now, nor how things will go down. What Jacques believes doesn't change a damn thing, so haha now your "debunking" is "debunked."

We are unified entirely. TZM doesn't fight TVP, we just don't lay claim to each other, as we shouldn't.

[globalzombietion]

@Lakopa Yes I didn't debunk it because the video I gave you wasn't mine. Your objections about the computer evolution are debunked in the video I gave you but not by me because it's not my video. Do you remember what I told you about the limited perception? Just saying...

"What Jacques said in the past isn't what he believes now,"

"What Jacques believes doesn't change a damn thing, "

Then why are you assuming and claiming that he changed his mind if it doesn't matter what he believes?

[Lakopa8]

@globalzombietion It isn't "debunked" by anyone at all. You want to talk about limited perception, how about how limited it is to call anything different than what you believe fascism, ESPECIALLY when you are acting in a fascist way. That's doublethink right there.

You support a hierarchy over egalitarianism.

You support political ideology over rationalism.

That's what fascism is about, a self-concerned hierarchy.

Hmmm, just like the market system and the profit motive.

[globalzombietion]

@Lakopa8 TZM & TVP become separate entities the minute the opposition started to increase against Fresco's ideas. This doesn't change the fact that until now the ZTM & TVP were walking side by side. The one was the call and the other the solution. If those behind ZTM were smart enough to figure out all these problems with our current system, then how they failed so miserably with their solution? Fresco's ideas were known long before the TZM and thus they are not the reason of the separation

[Lakopa8]

@globalzombietion The divide between our two groups began with Roxanne Meadows getting all egotistical and started to try to control the direction of TZM. THAT was what caused it, as anyone who actually studied us before they started throwing wild claims would know. They would also know that TVP has always been opposed, so saying that we ditched to clean our hands or some shit is completely retarded.

What do you mean "failed'? We haven't even built the first city, how could be have failed yet?!

[globalzombietion]

@Lakopa8 The fine details of your esoteric matters in the movement are not important. What I am pointing out is that this movement calls the world to unite and can't keep the unity within it's members. The ZM proposed the VP as a solution to the current establishment. Since the ZM and the VP are now separate entities I don't understand about which cities you are talking about. The cities are in the VP and the VP is no longer part of ZM and thus it's solution is not part of ZM. That's the failure

[Lakopa8]

@globalzombietion I still have no idea what the fuck you are talking about. Within TZM, there is totally unity. Our interactions with other groups may involve burning some bridges sometimes, if those groups are taking an anti-egalitarian stance like TVP did in a way.

Science is the solution, not the Venus Project. Z3 never said anything about TVP being the solution, and even if it were to, it's just a movie that shares a name with the Movement, not the manifesto of TZM in any way.

[Lakopa8]

As for the cities, we don't need TVP designs necessarily. They do have some very well put-together concepts, but most Zeitgeisters support renovation of old cities at least to a degree where TVP keeps away from that entirely. We don't know what the first city will look like or when it will be created. We are still growing, critical mass has not been reached yet. Once it has, then construction begins, and we show the world that our designs are in fact better than those of today.

[Lakopa8]

Do you support this status quo?

Do you REALLY think this zeitgeist is better than the one the Movement is bringing into existence?

That upper 1% has got you good if you do...

[globalzombietion]

@Lakopa8 Can you try not to jump into conclusions? You see, you may just saw Zeitgeist and believe that you figured out what's going on, but all these were designed to happen as early as 1890. There is nothing new here, they created the chaos and now the are selling your their solution but they want you to choose it because they don't have the power to enforce it yet. After you choose it, there is no return, between current establishment and Zeitgeist I prefer a meteor impact, seriously!

[Lakopa8]

@globalzombietion Ok lets make this TOTALLY clear. I've been with the Zeitgeist Movement since its creation, and there IS NO RULING SECTOR IN THE MOVEMENT!!! We can't prevent the world from the return to the last system. We can't enforce any kind of rule. There is no one to even enforce it in the first place.

So how about this, YOU stop jumping to conclusions. Do you know anything at all about the Movement? Have you done anything but watch those movies?

[globalzombietion]

@Lakopa8 The question is have you done anything other than watching these movies? Of course there is no ruling sector because all the decisions will be made by the mighty computer (and the guy in it:)). Basically Z is a refined version of anarcho communism, no central government, everyone is equal even the unequal, there is no private property but only public, educate yourself

/watch?v=AMSMQHpIEQU

[globalzombietion]

@Lakopa8 You have been to Z since it's creation you say, I was expecting for Z to be created since I read the Protocols of the Elders of Zion many many years ago. Z is the solution the elite provides for the problems they caused, it is a plan for global enslavement that won't work with violence that's why they try to make the fools believe that this idea is theirs. So that they would submit freely and fight to defend it like zombies for "the common good"

[globalzombietion]

@Lakopa8 Bush and the order he represents is just a scarecrow. He is there to scare the shit out of you so you can "choose" the side that is "against" him! Get it? Z is here to "save" us from "bush" but I am not buying, because if this plan fails, then the "alien saviors" will appear to save us from an "imminent destruction" of the earth. They would be fake too but at least the show that they will display will be more interesting due to exotic technology that is kept secret from man

[globalzombietion]

@Lakopa8 Keep telling that to yourself, u don't get it, let me tell it to you one more time. The problem is that 1% has 40% of the wealth, ok are you following? Zeitgeist is proposing what the rest of 99% of humanity must do in order to solve a problem that is caused by the 1%! Get it? Because the 1% is doing this the other 99% must do this in order to solve problem. This what Zeitgeist is telling you, that 99% must submit to their plans for the "greater good" because that 1% is causing trouble

[Lakopa8]

@globalzombietion What the Movement is saying is this. "We fucked up, but it's not to late. Everyone, if we all come together as equals, we can find a solution, and then implement it." That is all.

We have no ruling sector.

We have no leader.

We have no ideologies.

The Movement is 500,000 people coming together to find a solution to the collective problems we face as a species. That is IT.

By the way, the Zeitgeist movies are just expressions of our founder, we by no way live by them.

[globalzombietion]

@Lakopa8 1st we are not equal. The value of a man is determined by his nature and his actions.

2nd The problem is that 1% has 40% of the wealth. Any solution that is asking from me (the rest 99%) to give away my property is invalid. I don't want anything and I am not giving anything. IF you want to solve the problem you take the money from those who have them in first place. Focus your solutions on that, not on how you make the poor even poorer for the "common good"

[globalzombietion]

@Lakopa8 Zeitgeist lost all it's credibility the second it said that this world is not governed by multinational corporations and secret societies. Bush belongs to skull bones and attacked Iraq, end of the story. 1

WHO with false H1N1 pandemic alarm forced people (with laws too) into dangerous and carcinogenic vaccines just so that Baxter can make some extra profit. End of the story 2. Reality debunks Zeitgeist.

[Lakopa8]

@globalzombietion What the hell are you talking about?! We ARE saying the world is being run by multinat corps! Not secret societies, but the ruling class is a society in a way. I have not one person in the Movement who have EVER said anything about Bush not being into the background shit at all. He's a pawn, a puppet, a hack, and we all know it. But he's also fucking stupid, and thankfully out of any form of power besides his cash.

Yeah, the WHO fucked up, but Big Pharma has done a ton worse.

[globalzombietion]

@Lakopa8 And I am saying that the world is being run by secret societies. Seriously it doesn't matter if you acknowledge them or not but the fact that Z focused on the money is very suspicious. Money were never the problem, they are not enough because they wouldn't have value if they were, but the actual value they have is less than than a piece of toilet paper because they are rough and have ink. Those who have them can make more at the touch of a button, money is not the issue.

[globalzombietion]

@TheMidwestsk8ter You may call murder as "assisted suicide" if you like, that doesn't change the nature of the act. Propaganda is an accusation and it is consider as such by those who don't allow themselves to go so low and use it. You see, propaganda is an option for u, not for me. So far all you got is empty accusations and pathetic attempts to insult me. It's so low that you should start looking for petrol. He he he You are a fine example of a zeitzombie and your actions reflect the movement

[TheDarkFenix]

The more people are against this movement, the more i get convinced the Zeitgeist's intentions and ideals are true. If something is persecuted like this, it can't be bad.

[globalzombietion]

@TheDarkFenix Yeah I know! Same thing applies on my video, something persecuted like this can't be bad but it is painful for many :)

[Lakopa8]

Two things.

One, the intent of having a redneck yell "death to the New World Order" was obviously to show the more uneducated people of the world would think of the Zeitgeist Movement as some sort of NWO shenanigans. Don't be so literal.

Two, 1984 the movie is based on a novel by Orwell of the same name. It is not HIS movie. (Hahaha see how stupid being totally literal about something that clearly isn't, is?)

[globalzombietion]

@Lakopa8 So you say that "1984" isn't actually George Orwell's movie? Oh my, my world just turned upside down,

"uneducated people of the world would think of the Zeitgeist Movement as some sort of NWO shenanigans"

Probably because they know something, but tell me what are your proofs behind this assumption? If the similarity of the Zeitgeist with NWO is obvious to an uneducated man, what's your excuse? Why they are not similar and why the uneducated are the ones who say death to nwo?

[Lakopa8]

@globalzombietion Why is the Zeitgeist Movement NOT the NWO? Simple, because the very thing is seeks to undermine is the NWO. In our current system, 1=40, as in 1% of the people own 40% of the wealth. Speaking of Orwell, what was that thing about 2+2=5? In the real world, and therefore in the next zeitgeist, (What the Zeitgeist Movement embodies,) 1=1, not 40. TZM aims to destroy the real "NWO."

[globalzombietion]

@Lakopa8 Sorry I thought that you were more aware of the world around you but it seems that the only thing you have done is watching the Zeitgeist. Problem - Reaction - Solution. We create a problem and we cause a reaction so we sell the solution. That's how these people work. The current order of things is the "old" world order, they are against the old world order because they are the new world order.

[globalzombietion]

@Lakopa8 "In our current system, 1=40, as in 1% of the people own 40% of the wealth"

I knew that long before that movie was produced. Do you belong to that 1% ? I am pretty sure that I don't, and that's why I don't submit into anything that is asking me to share the burdens of the world, because I didn't cause them in first place. That 1% is telling you that you have to live according to their plan for the "greater good" of all but your and my life weren't the problem in first place

[globalzombietion]

Feel free to hate this video as you do with anything that disturbs your delusions.

"The likelihood of one individual being right increases in direct proportion to the intensity to which others are trying to prove him wrong."

~ James Mason in Heaven Can Wait (1978)

[TheMidwestsk8ter]

Propaganda..

[globalzombietion]

@TheMidwestsk8ter Denial is not a river in Egypt.

[TheMidwestsk8ter]

@globalzombietion Are you in denial?

[globalzombietion]

@TheMidwestsk8ter Not exactly, the empty accusations are a sign of the denial.

[TheMidwestsk8ter]

@globalzombietion What empty accusations? I asked you a Qeustion? You have very poor evaluation skills :D

[globalzombietion]

@TheMidwestsk8ter Are you sure that you don't have a short memory? You seem like you don't remember the word "propaganda" which you said, that accusation I am talking about.

[TheMidwestsk8ter]

@globalzombietion Thats not an accusation? Propaganda is a form of communication that is aimed at influencing the attitude of a community toward some cause or position so as to benefit oneself. Lol you have a poor vocabulary..do you have short term memory?

[globalzombietion]

@TheMidwestsk8ter Propaganda may be a form of communication for you but for me it's an accusation. You say that this is not a accusation and from the other hand you accuse me that I am trying to benefit myself according to your definition of the word. Can you actually prove how I benefit myself? You try so much to insult me yet you fail by contradicting yourself before you even change a paragraph, I am asking you questions and the smartest thing you can do is turning them back? He he low

[TheMidwestsk8ter]

@globalzombietion Lol my actions are a reflection of this screwed up society and its detrimental institutions that you follow so blindly..I'm not trying to insult you i'm just stating the truth weather you can handle it or not. Oh yeah "smartest thing"? You might wanna read some more books your lacking a lot of knowlege. You are a following dog of the institutions who is so blind to reality he will attack any new idea's. "he be low"

[globalzombietion]

@TheMidwestsk8ter You see that's our difference, you blame society by I am responsible for myself. Can you stop contracting yourself at each paragraph? Calling someone a "dog" isn't an insult for you? Telling him that he lacks knowledge maybe? Oh I get it, you can insult me because in your delusion your insults are the "TRUTH" and you do nothing but telling the "truth" right? He he u are so small wherever you like or not, not weather (sunny) he he you were saying something about the vocabulary?

[globalzombietion]

@TheMidwestsk8ter Don't tell me to read  books, you will scare away the people from them. Even if you had read all the books of the world that proves a single point: Reading all the books of the world doesn't make you less of an asshole:) How do you live with yourself?

[globalzombietion]

@TheMidwestsk8ter Sorry kid you are just blah blah. You accused me of propaganda and I am waiting for you to provide the proof that I am benefiting from this video according to the definition of the word which you gave. If u don't answer or if u fail to provide proof you prove me right when I said that empty accusations is all you got and it doesn't matter if you acknowledge this fact because I also said that you are in denial too:) You are an asshole with your own free will don't blame society

[globalzombietion]

@TheMidwestsk8ter

"Free will is a dosen't exsist its a loaded term and i'm suprised someone with your intelect belives in it lol."

Now hold on a second, I thought that I was "lacking a lot of knowlege" and now I am an intellectual? Wow good for me I guess:) Free will is a "loaded term"? Ha ha seriously I hope that you are a freemason or something similar, because if you actually believe what you say, I'm really sorry for you. Without free will you are just dead meat

[TheMidwestsk8ter]

@globalzombietion I'm using an onscreen keyboard hard to type with. You can be intellectual and lack knoledge for instance you lack knowlege on the zetegeist movement. Can you you comprehend that? Or should i use smaller words? Free will is an outdated belief and simply dosen't exsist..everything you do is based off of the experiences you had and the enviroment you come from we are all perfect reflections of our culture.

[globalzombietion]

@TheMidwestsk8ter Use small words it will be easier for your onscreen keyboard XDD

"everything you do is based off of the experiences you had and the enviroment you come from"

This is called judgment not free will. Since no one is holding a gun against your head, anything you do is called "free will". If you believe wrong ideas as right, it's not the society's fault but it's your fault for not thinking them long enough to figure out what they are

[TheMidwestsk8ter]

@globalzombietionlmao "free will" is saying that human beings act off of nothing? And thats called magic Lol. Nothing in nature actsonitself. Thinking is based off an associate system that we all have depending on the enviroment you grow up in you could end up becoming a skin head or a biologist. I dont want to fight i just want you to start looking at science instead of things like "free will"

[globalzombietion]

@TheMidwestsk8ter "free will" is saying that human beings act off of nothing? And thats called magic Lol"

Eh excuse me, you said that, you are laughing with yourself :) You act according to what you believe that it is right. Knowing the right from the wrong is ur responsibility and as long as u choose it without someone threating u somehow, it's a choice made based on free will even if ur judgment is wrong. You say that you can't be held responsible for ur actions, that's because u are weak

[TheMidwestsk8ter]

@globalzombietion "you act according to what you belive is right"? But where do you get that? Your culture. There is no right and wrong if you were raised in germany during the nazi's you would belive hitler is good, because those were the domniant vaules back then. The only reason you belive what you belive is because it was passed on to u thru culture. Of course "free will" is the easier awnser thats why fools love to belive in it. But science dosen't.

[globalzombietion]

@TheMidwestsk8ter I also said "Knowing the right from the wrong is ur responsibility" it doesn't matter what you been told and taught during you lifetime as right or wrong the only thing that matters is what you do. If you can't understand don't make me repeat myself. Free will in not easy, it requires responsibility, you are responsible for your actions, that is free will. The easy would be to blame anyone but you for your choices, which is what you do.

[TheMidwestsk8ter]

@globalzombietion Sigh..."Free will" is making a choice without being acted on? But everthing u experience shapes your brain makes you who you are..again there is no right and wrong for example: A nazi kills a jew and belives he did a good thing? You wouldn't kill anyone because u belive its wrong mmk? None of you our bad or good pepole its where you were brought up? Ya understand? Everything you belive is comes from the t.v shows you watch schools you went to family values etc..

[globalzombietion]

@TheMidwestsk8ter It doesn't matter what you believe as right or wrong! How many times I am going to tell you that? Acts of violence against anything that doesn't threat your life are wrong and it doesn't matter if you are a nazi or the god damn pope. Do u understand? A thief believes that it's his right to steal from other people, the majority of the people don't, didn't the society affect them? Or does the belief of the thief justify his actions because he can't be held responsible about them?

[TheMidwestsk8ter]

@globalzombietion "The majority of pepole" Gto a 3rd world country and say that bullshit. Pepole don't kill because of punshiment, Who are you to decide whats right and wrong? You sound like Communist. There are pepole just as sincere as you who think there way of life is the right way. Your gonverment inderectly kills pepole all day lol? You are extremly ignorant in science i'm tired of your opinions and bullshit assumptions. Its like trying to tell someone 2+2 is 4 but u belive its 5 jeez

[globalzombietion]

@TheMidwestsk8ter You can't be held responsible for yourself, work on that before trying to tell me what is right and wrong. I don't care what other people do, I care for what I do, because eating that sandwich is survival for a man in Africa, but for me not eating that sandwich is honor, because I know that this will make you mad and this is better than all the sandwiches of the world. Ha ha they can do whatever they want to you with just a sandwich! aha ha ha

[TheMidwestsk8ter]

@globalzombietion I'm not trying to tell u right and wrong!! Ya fucking retard i'm the one who said it dosen't exsist... and no you would eat the sandwich because biology I.E your body dosen't give a fuck about your morals it needs food you dumb cunt. And theres nothing to work on except for your ignorance. I can't wait till you research this subject lol once you learn somemore your gona look back and be laughing at how you made yourself look like a fool on the inernet (:

[globalzombietion]

@TheMidwestsk8ter Wait a minute because of biology I will eat the sandwich? Ha ha ha hey loser aren't you the one that was saying earlier that humans have no nature? Huh? Now you say that I HAVE TO behave according to a biology? Ha ha stop contradicting yourself looser.

If a sentence starts with "have to" you can be sure that "I dont".

[soulskater100]

@globalzombietion lmao you got owned :/

[globalzombietion]

@soulskater100 By you clone account? Do you see how small you are? It doesn't matter if you fool me, it doesn't matter at all. You should know for yourself that you have to lie in order to convince about your opinion. You know that you have to lie for your worthless opinion, sleep with that, it doesn't matter what I believe ha ha ha

[globalzombietion]

@TheMidwestsk8ter "your body dosen't give a fuck about your morals it needs food you dumb cunt."

It is the other way around loser, I don't give a fuck about what my body wants, the body may need food, if I don't eat I will die, but I can choose to die asshole, this what I am telling you all along. My body serves me, not the opposite.

[TheMidwestsk8ter]

@globalzombietion You don't have to qoute me i'm the one who typed it you moron...your body is you? Are you retarted? Well your obviously changing the the topic because you know your wrong.

[globalzombietion]

@TheMidwestsk8ter " your body is you?"

Can you copy and paste the post where I said that? You are completely brain dead aren't you? All this time I am telling you the exact opposite! I am telling you that my essence is not my body! That my essence can command my body to die of starvation just to stick it to your face! You say that I am my body and that I have to behave in a specific way because of my biology, not me. I am not changing anything you start to run out of words and u get confused

[TheMidwestsk8ter]

@globalzombietion There is no essence you fucking fool i can't belive you just fucking said that, yeah..you pretty much ruiened any arguement you had. Your brain contains who you are and thats it. "essence"? your not even close to understanding science..you have the brain of a mid evil witch doctor lmao "Essence" hahaHAHAAHHHAHAHAHA

[globalzombietion]

@TheMidwestsk8ter Yes the essence, this which continues to exist even when the brain is shut down. It does exist and it has already proven you that you are a sandwich whore:) Your personal beliefs are not important, do you actually believe that I ruin my arguments by talking about the essence or soul? :) Not really, you may wanna believe that, that I ruin myself since you can't do anything about it, but you should remain open to possibility that you are just soulless. I m sorry for you

[globalzombietion]

@TheMidwestsk8ter You see kid you come from a poor background that didn't taught you to stand for real values for immortal beliefs and ideas and thus anyone with a sandwich can do you his bitch, biology is your excuse. You will try to survive with any cost no matter how pathetic excuse of human being you'll become, I rather die free. You came here for nothing, you did nothing, you wasted my time for nothing to conclude that you are nothing because you don't have free will. Now you go. Bye

[globalzombietion]

@TheMidwestsk8ter You think that you can change the world? How? You can't even change yourself! According to you you can't even be held responsible for you, for your actions, it's society's fault you say! Nothing you can do about it!!!!!! So according to you, you will change when the society changes, that's why you are not among the ones who are going to make this change. Because as Zeitgeist 1 said at the end, "it is a matter of choice" if you can't make it, you are less than a human.

[TheMidwestsk8ter]

@globalzombietion Less than a human? Biology says i'm perfectly human..We are perfect reflections of our culture,i'm not blaming anything its nobodys fault its simply the way things are, and there are pepole who wake up and can see that."change yourself" lol every book i read everything i experience i'm learning all the time changing all the time lmao? Your statement is completly arbitrary,it seems like your messin with me now haha you make the weirdest assumptions.

[globalzombietion]

@TheMidwestsk8ter You said that you are a product of this culture and things are like this because you did nothing to change them. According to you it's not even your fault. All the Zeitgeist 3 was trying to disconnect humans from their biological reality by claiming that they have no nature. Yet you seek in the old biology proofs for your humanity... Sorry without free will you are not a human, you are an animal and you are governed by your instincts without been able to do anything about it.

[TheMidwestsk8ter]

@globalzombietion Human beings are animals Fruit flies share nearly 60% of human genes theres nothing special about human beings. And "things are like this" because of a society based on scarcity i have very lil to do with that.."disconnect humans biological humanity"? Zetegeist simply points out that the brain is a responing mechanism we learn from our enviroment. "free will" has nothing to do with science and more to do with speculative notions. There is no "human nature"

[globalzombietion]

@TheMidwestsk8ter You are animal, I am not. I can choose when and if I will eat, I can choose if and when I will reproduce. This is not a choice for the animals and if you can't understand it it's only because you have lived your entire life as an animal governed by the instincts with no sense of self control whatsoever. Don't talk about humans and don't try to be "scientific" about it because you know nothing.

[TheMidwestsk8ter]

@globalzombietion If i put you in a room and starved you for a week and threw in a sandwich you would eat it because of the condtions Animals keep and save food? You have done no research at all your just making speculative notions that make no sense and its starting to piss me off, because i know your smarter than that...stop trying to insult me and do research on the subject. Because your EGO is so big it won't let you be wrong...if i was wrong i would admit but i'm not sorry..

[globalzombietion]

@TheMidwestsk8ter "if i was wrong i would admit but i'm not sorry.."

He he you won't believe how long I was waiting for you to say that :) I know sweetheart that you are not wrong! How could you be? Ha ha ha You are not wrong, Everyone else is wrong and everyone else has to change because you are perfect! And if you are not perfect there is nothing you can do about it because, (again) it is the society's fault!! Denial dude, you got lots of it

[globalzombietion]

@TheMidwestsk8ter And I won't eat the sandwich after one week of starvation or even after a month because this is what you want me to do but with my free will I can go against my body and starve myself to death or save my appetite for your throat:) This is called free will

[TheMidwestsk8ter]

@globalzombietion You are the stupidest fucking person to exsist lmao you can't starv yourself to death you dumb fucking moron i'm sorry for the outrage, but your stupidity is geeting to me. I take back what i said about u being smart. All you have are opions and shit ya make up. Your just replying for the hell of it you probably know your wrong your just fucking with me......

[globalzombietion]

@TheMidwestsk8ter I will starve myself to death indeed I 'll do, for me that's an easy choice, it's either FREEDOM OR DEATH. Feel free to be a submissive slave after all it's not your fault! ha ha ha You got nothing to say as you did since your first comment.

" I take back what i said about u being smart."

You see with just a few comments it's already proven that you are wrong, don't worry it's just one more of the many cases

[TheMidwestsk8ter]

@globalzombietion I'm sorry that make sense? "Sumbmissive slave" "proven wrong" your just rambling now like a retard its sad actually did you run out of witty comebacks? Or do u understand your wrong lol. Let me geuss your dad works for the new world order is that why you follow the status quo? Listen kid science dosen't care what we think it tells us reality weather you can handdle it or not..grow up and face reality "magic" free will" don't exsist its time to grow up.

[globalzombietion]

@TheMidwestsk8ter "Weather" again? As in "Sunny weather ":))) Hey more empty accusations! How do you live with yourself? If my dad was working for the new world order I would be promoting you the Zeitgeist, that's the new world order and the video above proves it because they are mocking this argument. They are making fun of those who are saying "Death to the new world order" who do you think they are working for loser?

[globalzombietion]

@TheMidwestsk8ter "I'm sorry that make sense? "Sumbmissive slave" "proven wrong" your just rambling now "

Of course you don't make sense because if you would that wouldn't give you enough time to say something better. "" I take back what i said about u being smart."" = Proven already to be wrong in your judgment! Get it now?

[chrisminimal]

οταν το ειχα δει το zeitgeist την πρωτη φορα με ξεσηκωσε αλλα μωλις το ξαναειδα τοτε καταλαβα οτι ειναι σουφιστες της ΝΤΠ

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