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  • Lots of toes..

  • fantastic :D lovely steps, shame about the wee slip at around 1:10 but what can you do :P other than that it was spot on

  • Kimberly du hast meinen vollsten Respekt .!

    echt klasse Leistung. :)

  • mattie1ist

    "this girl" is an open champion dancer who is a 3 time world champion and 2 time european. and as you all said the step was danced DIFFERENTLY in 1994!! I no Kimberly very well and she works really hard at what she does and deserves everything she wins so before you all go judging a young girl remember we have different styles of dance to Commisuin so keep your bitchyness in your own organisation

  • @kiadublin1994 - it's not a case of wida having a "different style". There is little to no difference in the style, particularly as wida teachers use Coimisiun steps. The difference is in the standard, not the style. It's a shame she doesn't dance for Coimisiun actually - she should go to uni in Britain or Ireland and dance for a Coimisiun teacher. She wouldn't win the Worlds but it would be interesting to see how she did.

  • What levels are there in WIDA?

  • sorry but this girl wouldnt even quailfy for a worlds

  • lovleey, your dress is gorgeous, Qite alot of toe stands though, :/ x

  • really nice (: but maybe less toestands?

  • @Sportfan58 - ah, no. Aoife danced for Oirialla in Dundalk. And like I said, her step was danced in 1994. Obviously copied from the clip

  • @GraNaRince28 to be honest i have seen loads of schools do either that exact sequence or something extremely similar in various dances, so its not just aoife who has done it. so theres really nothing wrong with it, its not as if she did aoife's whole dance.

    that would be the same as saying people can't do other squences such as the toe runs simply because someone else did them first

  • Nine different toestand moves in the step and eight in the step. All done with incorrect technique. And the start of the set is Aoife Curley's, copied from the 1994 World video. Her teacher/choreographer has a lot to answer for.

  • @GraNaRince28 maybe they were form the same school?

  • what place did she get

  • She`s wonderful :)

  • Die Antwort ist doch egal. Auch wenn ich antworten würde: beginner, sagst Du doch sowieso: bei ac ist höherer Level.

  • what level is she in WIDA?

  • @iheartirishdancingg She`s open-championship dancer.

  • Planxty drury is my set too :) , well done, ignore some of the comments on here :)

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  • I saw you lost you're balance right after the toestand,try to be a bit more balanced,but,that was great..I loved it

  • Ich hab mit ihr English lk und mathe :D

  • My solo dress is like that, like the bottom, i got it in dallas (oireachtas 2009) but the company is proably the same

  • very pretty toe stands and I can't believe you she did twists and hops on toe stands.. but definitely a lot of toe stands.

  • excellent well done!

  • well good :)

  • really nice i didnt know the germans could dance!

    i ment irish dance

  • Lol, thank you Riverdance and LOTD... Irish dance, not just for the Irish anymore :)

  • someone's teacher likes toe stands..

  • MMM, waaay too many toe stands! Beautiful dancing, though - what an amazing sense of rhythm & timing! It'd be nice to see what she could do without all the toe stands.

  • @lindsaylee90 ahahahhaa

  • I know Kinberly personally and one thing is for sure : she'll never copy steps. maybe because the two girls you saw have the same teacher? cause her teacher (and mine) has more then 200 students !!

  • No she has a reel step that she did in a parade of champs that is an exact step replica of one that BFOC in california uses.

  • I think she's really good, but she has to take care of her toestands, she tends to do "tacco toes" - that what it's called in my school...

  • Wow she can do skips while doing toestands! like at 0:50!

  • Urg! The taco toes...

  • I love toestands, trust me, but this is too much. I don't like it at all :P

  • Lovely, but it screamed 'taco toes' at me the whole video.

  • @mashoutka I agree

  • Lovely dancing & her twists are soooo neat. Bit too much toe walking for my liking, although she does it very well it takes over a lot of the dance, would prefer to see more trebles/variation as she could obviously do them well.

  • I agree, but it is a set- you cannot really change it.

  • Its not a traditional set, its an open set you can do what you want, the material is up to the TC/dancer, of course it can be changed?

  • Sorry, I misread and thought this was a traditional set.... just watched one....

  • Am I the only one that noticed how high her socks go?

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  • Yea, I do Irish dance, I'm only Novice/Prizewinner though.

    Here in Canada "Champion length" means that their shorter then the regular knee length socks though...

  • In the US they do too....... I wear Champ length socks too.....and they aren't that long..... maybe they were streched?

  • I don't know, they could just be really old? Maybe she went for something that wasn't champ length?

    Either way, her socks seem long to me.

  • no there knee length .. championship length are the smaller 1s

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  • Nope, champ length is about mid calf and knee length comes up to the knee. For a while everyone was in knee length socks and now it is a personal preference.

  • ok lol kk i just got told they were champs length lol, r u an irish dancer ?

  • I am.

  • hi-5 lol me too :) did you go to germany in april ?x

  • Nope, I am an An Com dancer in the US.

  • I went to germany in april :D

  • reli lol i did, what dance school do you go to lol :) x

  • im from the Keogh Academy u ?

  • kewl , McCarthy Felton school :) xx

  • im eireann go bragh

  • @TheTarnovsky not any more im not

  • that's a lovely set. I would break my ankles if I tried to do those toestands though :P

  • she won the all europeans at 2008 and 2009, shes second winner of all ireland, goes since 6 years with me to school ( we are in one class ) and friday i go to her B-ady Party :-P^^

  • i dont think she needs a huge toothy smile thats just freaky. But i think that she needs to put more trebles into the dance becasue you can't hear her as much and she isnt using the stage as much as she could

  • that judge hates me because I do a right and a right lol

  • I dont htink a judge 'hates' you because of right and right. Leads can be right and right but steps should all be right and left as this helps balance out muscle development and will cause fewer problems later on in life.

  • She has a beautiful dress and her turnout and crossing are actually pretty good. What I do think though is that instead of doing so many toe stands, substitute them for a movement that will get you around the stage - this step makes you seem very quiet and not as agressive or confident as you could be. And don't forget a huge, toothy smile. :-)

  • the dance is really wierd,, i dunno why though,, and sometimes it looks like shes bending her knees a bit to much espically on her toes. but her dress has a nice shade of purple

  • It looks like she is sitting into her knees too much and her heels are are the ground a lot when she is not on her toes. The whole thing makes for an odd line. I agree with the dress though, fab stuff.

  • She is a really beautiful dancer and I don't think she has a weak turnout or crossing, but I agree that her steps have too much of toe stands. Anyway this was a brilliant job from her side :)

  • did she win?

  • to many toe stands

  • Her feet are actually REALLY turned out and crossed aha

    hopefully il get to see her dance at one of the WIDA events!

  • shes needs to turn cross and turn her feet out more.

  • hey casey! thank you for your critique!! do you see something else i could do better because sometimes i just don't know what i can improve!!

  • heyy,, you cab try and make your steps more shaper,, and make them more powerfull,, insted of so many toes,, put some beat in there judges love that,, and also rember your the boss of the stage and rember look confident thats the frist thing that judges see. well done

  • I'd agree with Caseyxirish & munchikenxx, less toe stands (in this dance alone you do something like 25-30 toe stands in a 1 minute 30 sec piece, I just counted). You also need to use the stage more, look like you're enjoying it more , & up on the balls of your feet more .You have fabulous rhythm, and a lovely style, and are a pleasure to watch - keep it up!

  • omg!!!! im getting that orange dress that one of the girls is wearing!!!

  • Does anyone out there have ANY proof that this set was copied from Rondeau school or was it it just yet another troll trying to be nasty. It is such a shame that people cannot just watch and enjoy a beautiful dancer dance a nice set and say so without nasty comments. I suppose this is the world of Irish Dance and I am naive to think that it is anything but bitchy. I wish this dancer well no matter where the set came from because she is beautiful to watch.

  • ya this coulndt POSSIBLY be copiedby rondeau. that school is from florida. the competition in the video is from germany!!!

  • I was also going to make a comment about this being copied. THere is a video of 3 girls doing this exact same set in practice (and in the description box, they claim that the set is their creation). I've been looking, but can't locate the video at the moment; however, I am 99.9% sure they're from the US because of their accent (or lack of one, to me). I will keep searching for the video.

  • I can assure you that this was the creation of Kimberlys teacher as I have asked about this and been assured that there were several witnesses to the work being done. I think her teacher like most others would take offence at being acused of copying steps.

  • Like I said, if I find the video, I'll post it in a link here. Obviously the steps are similar enough to me for me to go "wait, I've seen that dance before."

  • still waiting

  • Hey Tkayeb, I think you may be right in that some aspects of this dance may have been borrowed - if you put Planxty Drury into the youtube search engine & look at the one by pindsx3, there are quite a few sections in that set you can see may have been used here. Having said that, its not a direct carbon copy/rip off, just very similar.

  • What happened scouser ? You used to be very defensive of all of WIDA stuff. Are you changing your attitude ? Jump 2,3 s are the same so I am sure that if yo look hard enough some of everyones steps will be the same as someone elses. But from talking to the teacher and dancer concerned this was not copied.

  • No Celt123, I'm not defensive of WIDA, I simply happen to like the way they do things. I'm a Coimisiun dancer, but that doesn't mean I can't see their faults, same goes for WIDA. I was simply curious as to why Tkayeb was so adamant she'd seen this exact set elsewhere, so I went looking on YouTube, and as I said to her - there are vids posted by pindsx3 that contain long sections that seem to appear in this dancers routine too. go see for yourself, you'll see what I mean.

  • hey i watched the set your talking about, many many times, and it is completey different, there were no things the same about it, apart from the fact they both contain trebles and other heavy techniques, its like saying my planxty davis is the same, when you saw it and it clearly was not.

    just my oppinion though others may think they are similar

  • omg i meant planxty drury not davis

  • Hey Jono ! Going to have to disagree there, my friend, there were segments that were very,very similar between the two sets. Its not so much the elements contained in each routine, but the sequence/ the way the steps were arranged are extremely similar. There's no harm in that, I know I've borrowed sequences and steps from routines I've seen as I like the way those steps/sequences make the dance flow. Lets face it, we're all a product of our experiences, why should dancing be any different?

  • im sure it is copyed because in the wida europeans parade from 08 this girl and the last one to go are from the same school so they are doing the same reel step. the problem is that its an exact copy of a reel from BFOC(california and canada) and i know for a fact because i go to bfoc! and im insulted by that.

  • so you hold this girl responsible for copying steps, she was most likely only doing what her teacher told her, as do most dancers, you may be insulted, but the fact that your holding the girl responsible and not the teacher, well she most likely feels insulted by you, i know i would. two wrongs don't make a right!!

  • Really!? I think that's awful seeing as this dancer has won quite a few championship

  • How did you do?

  • i'm not sure how she did specifically in this feis, but i kno she get second at all irelands and won europeans

  • wow that's amazing! congrats!!

  • hey im hintergrund steht betz =D

  • Omigod, I just love watching the champ dancers. They're doing all these complicated steps but it looks like they're barely working! It looks so easy and beautiful! But it's not, at all.

  • omg i love her twists!

    jealous.....:)

  • very excellent from irish dancin judge gerry hobbs belfast

  • Kimberly my freind u are amazing i cant wait for the world championships its gona be soo good, Ure an amazin dancer and i love the new dress:), Ya Never Fail to impress people ya always do it fair play;)

  • Wow! Gorgeous dancing!

  • planxty drury!! I used to do this set! loved it.

  • If this is true where did this school get the dance from since I think they are in Germany and the Rondeau school is in Florida. I have never seen this set dance before on youtube. Are you by any chance atroll who is out to cause negative comment.?

  • Er Celt23, lockedinsideurhsbox isn't being negative - just making an accurate comment as he/she sees it. As for how a German dancer could've have access to a set choreographed by a school from the USA - thats easily answered. Kimberly's teacher used to live & teach in the USA and so would/could have seen the Rondeau School's choreography at any number of US feiseanna. Choreography isn't patented - so no foul there I'm afraid.

  • Scousedancer, I'm afraid it is not just an accurate comment - it is in fact an accusation of stealing choreography. Everyone can have his own opinion but lockedinsideurhsbox's one is expressed in a dogmatic manner, and I see no reasons for that.

  • "Choreography isn't patented - so no foul there I'm afraid."

    Yeah, but it is really poor form to steal another schools steps, even if they are on the other side of the world. The irish dancing community is a very small one. This isn't the first time this has happened.

    BUT the dancer is VERY good, so props to her for performing a lovely set.

  • Hiya leeciepie - I agree Kimberly is a lovely dancer, graceful & confident - a very polished performance. However I don't think this set was "stolen" - her teacher had his own school in the USA for many years, so its quite likely he borrowed it with the permission of its originators. He probably knew this Rondeau school from his time there, wouldn't be surprised to learn his former dancers had danced against them at some feis or other. Who knows? Any Rondeau dancers out there who can comment?

  • Actually, choreography is copyright. You may not be able to prosecute someone overseas for it, but it shows very negatively on the school and organization for resorting to copying another person's work. If there is some sort of legitimate workshop, that's fine. But I don't think any of the larger and more established organizations (including an com) allow their teachers or dancers to have anything to do with WIDA.

    Lovely dancer, but if the steps are indeed stolen, it ruins it for me.

  • I don't know enough about copyright law to agree or disagree,Irishdancergal. However your comment about larger/established organisations not associating with WIDA is DEAD WRONG! Have just been to a WIDA feis this weekend & I happen to know there are 3 An Com schools who will be sending dancers to WIDA events & several Dublin based An Comdhail schools send dancers to WIDA events regularly. They at least are willing to keep an open mind and judge WIDA based on its members, who are terrific folk.

  • Well, if an com dancers will be competing at the WIDA feis, they will be banned for a certain time period. Hopefully they know that, or that would be a pretty nasty surprise.

  • Banned? I don't think so! The teachers I refer to are all very experienced (former) competitors who now teach. one lady has taught alongside her Mum (a VERY experienced Midlands based teacher) for many years & I doubt would be ignorant of such a ban if it existed. I checked on this too before I took part in WIDA feiseanna - its frowned upon, yes, but banned? Don't think so. Whilst I don't condone what WIDA's founder may have done/not done - everyone deserves a second chance.

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  • Hi, I also think it's a good thing that non WIDA schools are associated with the organisation, participate at their feiseanna etc. and don't judge the organisation. I know some An Comdhail schools do so. Like scousedancer said, I don't think they're 'punished' for this either.

    But Irishdancergal is right, if An Coimisiún dancers dance at a WIDA feis, they're banned for a period of time. They can only dance in their own organisation.

  • Hiya Danceandharp! I'd love to know where you're getting this ban on AN com dancers getting banned for doing open platform (or WIDA feiseanna in particular). I'm no expert on all An Com rules, but I made sure before I did it that there were no such rules & have made little secret of my WIDA participation, and no one has made any such comments to me. I even mentioned it to one acquaintance of mine who is very well connected to my regional council & she said nothing to me about any ban.

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  • It's really cool though if you can compete for both an com and WIDA!! I really hope it won't have any bad consequences for you. I'd be careful though nevertheless, but if you made sure it's ok and there are no complaints from people with an com, I guess you should be fine.

    By the way, the coments should of course be about the dancer and not WIDA stuff :) She's so incredibly amazing!! I've watched this video over and over!!

  • Hey danceandharp! Please don't worry, you're as entitled to your opinion as all of us. Given An Com's previous stance on comps & groups like WIDA, you weren't wrong to think they would ban people. If you want to e-mail me off line about this, I've sent you a message. Take care!

  • @celt23 hey i only said what was tru and im not making it up. i live in fl and it was the same choreography. idk how she or her teacher got it and i dnt care but it was the truth. and i was the one asking where she got it and u asked the question right back

  • ok this is the exact same choreography as one of the florida schools set dances. i think it might b rondeau

  • Well if her teacher used to dance in the US she may have been at the same school and took the choreography with her... or she could have done a workshop and shared steps. A lot of teachers do this, especially with a set being competed in two very different regions half way across the world from one another

  • Oh, Kimberly has got a new dress! :) Great one. And great dancing, too.

  • Wow!That was excellent very enjoyable to watch-beautiful dress too :)

  • she is a beautiful dancer!

    I love how confident she is on toes, and he dress is fabulous!

  • gorgeous dress!

  • Cześć tu Ada z diddlyi :) Super nowa sukienka i ładny set :)

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