And how do you intend to "dispose of religious fundamentalism once and for all"? It will always be around. The only solution is to ignore those crazy fuckers.
Why would I submit to a tyranny? The answer is fear. Oh, I'd take my chance at rebellion when it came, but I would bare the yoke until then. I think I know myself well enough to say that.
where will we retire after we grow old together? I'd like to get an old tug boat and turn it into a houseboat. we can make geriatric love to the sounds of the ocean lapping against the hull.
I can relate to this video. Sometimes after dealing with believers I start to wish that god did exist so that I could tell him what a total asshole he is for filling so many heads with nonsense. Sometimes I wish that god would be there when I die, so I could face him as another immortal being and show him for the ball-less shit that he is. Worship some monster that won't show his face and thinks eternal torture is a fitting punishment for refusal to kiss ass? Not in any life of mine.
Nice rant from your inner .....demons.....I always liked how atheists try to free themselves from the bondage of truth, yet always rage war within themselves to constantly prove it to themselves and others in such media outlets....
the accounts of Christ had him driving out demons and curing the diseased.... disease is a very natural part of life, your anxiety is mental disorder, a bad disease that needs proper treatment...sorry you suffer so...
@fverde2223 They are trying to drive TOWARDS truth. The problem is that they have to deal with fallacious theistic ideas that are outdated and are aimed at the dulling of one's mind in order to become docile enough to believe in an invisible man in the sky.
@geekofsteal ahh, truth - you just keep drilling down the "why" question.... when you find the end of that tunnel, I will have my answer and you will have nothing
@fverde2223 Either you are a "troll", or you seriously believe with no evidence that demons control peoples actions.
Find the end of what tunnel? The "why"?
You will have your answer only because you have fabricated one. That is what religion is. There is no investigation of assumtion and superstition. There is only blind faith. I will more likely stumble upon an answer to some of life's great mysteries through science. You will simply make up a pleasing, overly simplified explanation.
@geekofsteal I am a biochem BS, MD, radiologist, doing plenty of research and published...what the fuck do you do that makes you an expert??? the more science I learn about this masterpiece of biochemical engineering, I appreciate how little we'll ever know about our design....if you think life is simply the infinite combination of random molecular interactions, now who is making an overly simplified explanation?
@ghostofdayinperson luck, bullshit, and heaven - fine words of superstition from an atheistic or humanist? (what do you people really call yourselves? perhaps nothing nihilists?). You must find such discourses humorous as I do....
(I hope you were not referring to my college education - it would reflect inability to comprehend acronyms on your part)
@fverde2223 Whether or not that is true, the idea that this wonderfully complex masterpiece implies that there must be a creator is a matter of both perception, and YOUR individual inability to imagine that physics and chemistry might just possibly work towards the level of intricacy we see around us without something or someone "pulling the leavers". Believer in God or not, all scientific disciplines will point out an "interwoven-ness" of all earthly and cosmic things. (1/2)
@fverde2223 The idea that the complexity of the natural world is too amazing to possibly be of random occurance is what shuts one's mind off to ways of thinking seperate from the kind of thinking religion will instill. It is simpler to say that a God or being or intelligence "built" what there now is than to theorize and investigate. It is, and this is the most important point, EASYER to believe with no effort that a God did it. I too agree that we'll never fully know how this world works. (2/2)
@geekofsteal Actually you will see alot of PhDs are religious people doing the science that you think is not possible because they believe in God. Your rebuttal is actually kind of weak. I'm half way reading the entire bible. Most of where atheists (I think) attack is Genesis as the rest of the bible is historical accounts, a blueprint for morality, ethics, and faith. Try reading it, you'll like it.
@fverde2223 Actually, you will see that I ignored your claim to education and profession to point out the difference between your thinking and mine. You keep shoving this PhD thing. Plus, I see that you told ghostofdayinperson that you didn't complete your PhD. My rebuttal was just fine, I think. My rebuttal was in 2 parts and covered the idea of non-willingness to think outside the "God-box".
Morality and ethics are both relative, and don't require the bible to be learned or applied.
@geekofsteal ummm I never needed to complete a PhD...from Bachelor of Science (BS) to Medical Doctor (MD) doesn't require a Doctorate of Philosophy (PhD) - for those acronistically impaired. That argument of even the highest of the educated still have unopposed faith. The two are not mutually exclusive.
Without an authority (i.e. the Bible, God, Christ, etc), morality and ethics are formless and corruptible placing center of power onto man itself. Remember the Golden Rule is a biblical construct
@fverde2223 Never mind about the PhD then. I can see how the 2 can be unrelated.
(Higher education and faith being unrelated occasionally, that is.)
The authority you speak of might alternatively in the form of law and enforcement. Morality and ethics are, again, relative, subject to change, and even regional. For example, Muslims believe that it is okay to hit a woman if she is unruly. How hard is up for debate. (1/2)
@fverde2223 If Godly ethics and morality are "incorruptable", then how do you account for Catholic priests molesting young altar boys? Where will we find your Golden Rule in the Crusades? The Salem Witch Trials? The Spanish Inquisition? Throughout history, these "incorruptable" laws of morality have been contradicted and outright broken in order to propogate the Chritians and Catholic religions, or they were simply broken because they are fallible. (2/2)
@geekofsteal ahh yet another weak rebuttal. Unfortunately, you are being flagged for spam so this entertaining discussion will come to a close on my part. Nice talking to you!
@fverde2223 I feel that you are only claiming that my rebuttals are weak is so that you can try to belittle the arguement I am trying to make. To intimidate.
And why would you need to falg me for disagreeing? I certainly will not flag you for disagreeing. Why couldn't you have simply walked away from the arguement? Do you really require that my account be marked for my opinion?
At this point, I don't care if you have a BS or MD degree. You are very imature.
@fverde2223 If Godly ethics and morality are "incorruptable", then how do you account for Catholic priests molesting young altar boys? Where will we find your Golden Rule in the Crusades? The Salem Witch Trials? The Spanish Inquisition? Throughout history, these "incorruptable" laws of morality have been contradicted and outright broken in order to propogate the Chritians and Catholic religions, or they were simply broken because they are fallible. (2/2)
@fverde2223 If Godly ethics and morality are "incorruptable", then how do you account for Catholic priests molesting young altar boys? Where will we find your Golden Rule in the Crusades? The Salem Witch Trials? The Spanish Inquisition? Throughout history, these "incorruptable" laws of morality have been contradicted and outright broken in order to propogate the Chritians and Catholic religions, or they were simply broken because they are fallible. As fallible as a man who preeches them. (2/2)
@fverde2223 BS as in Bullshit. Are you asserting that before the Bible, people had no idea concerning treating others as they would want to be treated? Nonsense.
As for the assertions made in post-Genesis Biblical books, they're as incompetently written as would be expected by Bronze-age goat herders having no better idea of how the world around them worked. Funny how the "Divine Inspiration" didn't fill them with correct information, isn't it?
I guess a simple way to put it is that I was technically an atheist when I was born, because I had no beliefs in deities. As a baby, I'm pretty sure I also didn't come to any conclusions about what was or was not reasonable to believe in. I simply had no beliefs. I was an atheist. I never changed that. I just went from implicit atheism, to explicit atheism.
Atheists are "convinced" God does not exist. Even Dawkins layed it out a spectrum of convincement, ranging from Theists to Agnosticism to Atheism. So, if you just happened to not believe in God without any reason for coming to that conclusion, and if you were intellectually humble, you'd correctly be open or neutral to the idea that God exist; like an Agnostic.
The conclusion of Atheism inevitably entails other beliefs which Atheists share between them or are willing to share amongst each other. For example, the conventional view of materialism, the belief that Darwinian process alone explain evolution, the belief that consciousness is generated by the interaction of matter, and in most cases, reductionism.
Matters which are extremely controversial, I might add. These things are beliefs - conventional assumptions to be true. Atheism is a conventional indoctrination. And no, with these assumption, that does "not" make it neutral.
And I can see that your explanation is under the assumption that atheism is default. Atheism is natural, theism is unnatural; this is what you believe, right? Well I'm sorry to break it to you buddy, but that's an indoctrination. You can even look it up in the dictionary. Atheism may be a disbelief in God, but it's also a doctrine.
Atheism isn't a position as far as children go, it's a lack of a position. I'm not open to believing in things that are not demonstrably extant. I do hold a belief that it is irrational to believe in things which are not demonstrably extant. It simply never came up as a serious issue for me until I was in my teens and had to fend off street preachers and the like. I am now explicitly atheist and reject the idea of the supernatural.
I'm not denying that I am an atheist, or that I have a personal belief system. My belief system, however, is not based on what I do not believe in. My belief system is based on my culture and what I've gathered from my life thus far. I think it's wrong to take certain actions and I think I have a responsibility to take certain actions and I'm neutral about a lot of stuff but it's not based on my rejection of religion and the idea of deities or unicorns or jesus riding dinosaurs.
I'm not sure if I'm coming off as a bitch or like I'm trying to bicker and fight about it, I'm just meaning to get across the message that common values of atheists have may or may not have anything to do with us being atheists, depending on the person, but more to do with us being human and existing in the world and having the ability to reason.
"God" loves athiests. Because they are a lot closer to being "good people" than those disgusting hypocrites with glued on morals that believe in some sadistic, pettyminded human that lives in the sky.
Anyway, pointing out to believers their arguments and belief doens't make any sense whatsoever is no sport really.
Haha- are you fucking kidding me? Why would I "prefer" Hell? All I'm saying is that its more important to do the right thing and tell "God" he's wrong, should he exist, than it is to protect myself from a hypothetical threat. Peace.
What I'm saying is that, if this God were real, and if he sent everyone who didn't worship him to hell, then I don't know how anyone can choose hell over worshiping him. That is, if that anyone knew for certain that this was real.
I thought the video was about what you would do if you actually met God. I mean, fear is a powerful thing. It can stop you from doing things like standing up to all powerful tyrants.
I dont think it is hypothetical cause she is so angry, so she not in a emotion as if it was she acting as if He does exist.
If someone were to talk about flying flowers no body would be this emotional about it. in biblical terms this is cause of a manifest of a demon. she suites it
I don't think she's angry at god. I think she's angry at people who don't care about people suffering. Those kinds of people are most certainly real. GhostofDay is transferring her anger at those people, into this entertaining video about god and hell.
You're saying that on a computer. Connected to the internet. Shouldn't you be in Nigeria somewhere dancing around in a grass skirt with a skull necklace and face mask so the rain will come this season? How do you have time for modern technology and youtube when there's all these demons you gotta protect your tribe from?
Do you rub goats blood on your monitor to prevent demons from jumping through the magic glass?
2nd you have no idea what a demon is nor have you ever seen one. people can be in the city and still have demons, there not limited to an certin country. read a book. the can go into anybody that lets them.
@Medafoure She isn't angry about those things because they're inconsequential.
The Christian God is attacked the most because it is represented by a majority of people in this country who THINK he's real. In the same way that YOU imply that smurfs, flying bears with rainbows on their stomachs, Buddha, Krishnam, Thor, Zeus, and "Allah" aren't real or hold no value, ghostofdayinperson is trying to say the same. She holds the Christian God to be just as fallacious and silly. As do I.
@Medafoure She isn't angry about Thor, smurfs, flying bears, etcetera because they aren't the Christian God. You are right. She IS angry. But not at those other examples. No, we will not see who gets the comic ownage. What happens when you die is that you rot in the ground. It is as simple as that. Any further assumtion simply requires a ridiculous amount of......faith. And there is no such thing as a demon, or a demonic person. This woman has created a skit in an angry tone. No demons required.
Agreed. More appropriate terms for the monster would be: eternal prick in the sky, or......SADIST. That's more like it. I had more but I'm too drained to think about it.
the word GOD itself is fabricated by humans who want to exploit the positive power,same goes for the DEVIL,they misuse the negative power,and for what?To gain control on you...its up to yourself to balance those two to achieve your OWN power.Choosing only one side will lead to false inner peace,because sooner or later that other side you left out will start knocking,either you listen or u go deaf... thats what i think.
Even if an immaterial being reveals itself as a creator god, this doesn't mean that it's true. In some non-christian doctrine there are different realms of existence with different beings; like heavenly realms with many immaterial beings, but none of them is the creator of the universe. They have their own ignorance, delusion and other defilements, like we, humans do.
In the same doctrine hell is not a commanded eternal place, but a simple impermanent existence, to which natural laws bind the mind: when a mind is strongly entangled in anger, fear or other type of suffering/defilement, at the end of the human life the stream of consciousness inclines to a state of existence that solely consists of this experience. Basically, the only thing that keeps the beings in suffering is their own ignorance.
I don't know, as an atheist, if Yahweh ever proved he was real to me (hard to do as I would probably believe I was dreaming or high) but if he could, I think I might 'puss' out in telling him off. Forever (however unfathomable that is) is a long time to be waterboarded ;)
Where did God get such a big ego anyway? Why does he need everything to worship him. Is God really flattered to have weak humans praise him. Isn't it better to be praised by superiors rather than a bunch of sycophants. But as God has no superiors couldn't he just pat himself on the back and call it good?
What if god told you that he/she never wrote the bible or sent a son?... He/she never had contact with humans. What if god said to you that he/she and you are one and the same being?
Wow! I'm dealing with a lot of ups and downs right now, but I never lose sight of the fact that it's just simply amazing that we could even realize we're alive in the first place.
If God does exist (and I'm not saying he does or not), I would hope that he/she/it was a lot smarter than us and that the reasons for everything in life will eventually become very clear and understanding to us. I really do understand your anger, but I hope that deep down you could find some hope in this at least.
I'm on the fence right now when it comes to God, so don't think I'm trying to push anything on you. I just hope you could find it in you to keep an open mind to possibility.
I will always be agnostic about god with the little g, for my mind is malleable, and I intend to keep it that way. As for the alleged Yahweh and Allah......fuck 'em. I just fucked 'em both with my open mind. ;)
Hell is essentially a paradox, when you think about it. Let's assume it's real, most people obey God's laws and worship him because they fear eternal hellfire if they don't. But God is all-knowing, therefore, he would know that it was a bullshit faith and send them to hell anyway, right?
Not really relevant, just wanted to get it out there.
I've done this exact same thing many times, told people that if there is a god he is one sick fuck and I would refuse to worship him and I would tell him to fuck off to his face, what kind of sick fuck creates being and then expects them to worship him? its funny how christians call you insane for believing in ghosts or something but then they believe in god, bunch of scumbag hypocrits. and no, I don't think we appeared from nothingness, doesn't make the bible right.
btw, I also suffered from extreme panic attacks for several years but have beaten them back to where I normally don't even feel anxious. I hope you have been able to do the same.
good points! Don't take me wrong but it's good to see more women speaking out about the atrocities and ridiculousness of religion! Douche Baggins. HAHAHAHA that was a good one. AND a great point. Yahwehjehovahelgodoh is very hypocritical, isn't it?
You are right. I would never bow down to such a tyrant who has no regard for human life. Rock on!
we didnt just suddenly appear and thats why people turn to religion and everything has to have rules they are set and if you dont follow them and be a smartass about them
all that happens is that you get fucked over big time
and also God in whatever religion you believe in is loving and caring
and is sertantly not an asshole and is deffinatly no-ones "bitch"
Just take a deep breath and relax. If you didn't know, some Christians believe that Yahweh is a wrathful God who wants to send people to Hell for simply not believing in him. This video specifically addresses these people. I am attacking radical ideas in this video, not religion in general, so please get a hold of yourself. I have my own criticisms of religion, but that's another story. :)
Yes, humans are just another animal and when you die, you just rot in the ground. Actually, because of embalming, you're more likely to leech toxic chemicals into the ground than rot, but hey.
I'm an atheist and I couldn't disagree with you more.
If there is an all powerful being and heaven and hell, then what's the point of being openly defiant to make yourself feel good in the 70 or so years you have on this planet. You're not going to get that smug satisfaction burning in hell.
I think you're comparing apples and oranges. Don't get me wrong, if he exists, god is a bastard, but you compare an omniscient to some 3rd world dictator. Just my opinion.
That's why it doesn't make sense for the "creator of the universe" to be such an egomaniac. That's why I don't believe a being like that would exist. But let me ask you this: if people don't stand up to tyrants, how do you think we can achieve any kind of personal freedom? I'm not talking about hypothetical tyrants here. Whether the tyrant exists or not is irrelevant; it is the weak attitude that is the problem.
In your hypothetical we're not talking about what makes sense, we're talking about what IS.
Your hypothetical is ridiculous. If god exists in the form we're talking about, than you won't get ANYTHING by standing up to him. Yes, a earthly tyrant you might change his mind or change his Lt.'s mind or do a violent overthrow, but you're not going to change the mind or overthrow an omniscient, omnipotent god. That's the difference. It's futile, smug, and not logical.
I see what you're saying, and sure, if I were faced with a very real possibility of torture, you bet I would do anything to get out of it. However, in this video I am trying to make the point that the concept of such a cruel deity is not only nonsensical, but unacceptable, and it pains me to see people accepting such a monstrous God. Its time to expose the sadism of such harmful religious views.
"You won't get ANYTHING . . ." it's not what I would hope to gain but rather what I keep and that is my dignity, and by the way heaven, according to the gospel, is clearly not that great.
One thing I will never understand is why would an omniscient and omnipotent being NEED to be worshipped by definition? To need something is to be LACKING in something and a omniscient omnipotent being cannot be lacking in anything by definition. I am with Christopher Hitchens when he said "Who would want theism to be true ANYWAY?"
ad hom attacks are only fallacies if they are used as SUBSTITUTES for actual arguments. I am not "resorting" to personal attacks as in a fallacious argument. If I have to remind you of this again you are getting blocked...and before you accuse me of censorship, keep in mind that you are infringing upon my peace of mind on MY channel. Therefore, it is perfectly fair for me to block you at this point. I have allowed you to comment freely and I have responded to your arguments reasonably.
what proper distinctions am i failing to make? what areas am i failing to critically address? please tell the cretin, he's too stupid to know for himself
When you say, "what happens is the masculine (usually lesbian) radical feminists encourage all females to reject their natural submissive tendencies, resulting in lame ass women everywhere", you fail to explain why it is "lame" for women to live the way that feels right to them as individuals. You fail to realize that not all lesbians are masculine, and not all straight women are submissive. There are plenty of submissive men in the world too you know....and many of these men are not gay.
its lame because its not natural for most women. women are indoctrinated by the media and institutions into thinking they are degrading themselves by accepting motherhood etc. sure it feels right for some women, but those women whom it feels right for shouldnt try to encourage all women to adopt a perspective or lifestyle that they feel is right. most lesbians i have met are masculine. most straight women have submissive tendencies, and i never said anything about gay or submissive men. clearer?
Stop speaking on behalf of people you don't know.
Not all women want to be mothers. I certainly don't embrace motherhood, and its not because I've been persuaded my the media. Its because that's just the way I am. You are being extremely presumptuous about all people, really.
i know there are woman like you who dont want to be mothers. thats fine. i just dont think woman lke you should be pursuading all women that motherhood is a terrible thing because it undermines their natural inclinations that will provide them with happiness. and i'm not saying you do this either. you may not think the media has pursuaded you, but think about what your attitude towards motherhood would be if you lived in a pre-modern society. it would inform your identity as a woman
i know correlation does not equal causation, but in the united states an estimated 30% of women suffer from depression, more than double than that of men. what is causing this? i think resisting biological inclinations plays a role but i could be wrong
When have I tried to persuade women not to have kids? When"? Answer: NEVER. If women want to have kids that's their choice. DO NOT misrepresent what I am saying. HOW dare you assume how I feel. YOU DON'T KNOW ME.
we all know this is not how she would really react. how absurd. i hope this video wasn't intented to be funny but ihave a feeling it was. she should check out what fellow atheist christopher hitchens has to say about females who try to be funny.
What does being female have to do with anything? btw-- I heard what Hitchens had to say about female comedians, and its bullshit. I'm not trying to be funny. If I happen to make people laugh, then great. If not, then fine.
well because females are not funny. well thats not true. they can be naturally funny, but when they try to use masculine humour it turns out being very abrasive. well, at least to me. i could be wrong but i assume you hold non-essentialist views of gender, which, considered through an evolutionary/biological paradigm is as fantastical as any supernatual belief. if you reject the notion of all equal under god, then the reality of female inferiority (intellectual, physical etc) cannot be ingored
I don't really know what you're getting at, but from what I have picked up from the tone of your comments, you strike me as being somewhat narrow minded about humor and gender. Every human being has his or her own balance of masculinity and femininity, which is what makes us individuals. Further, much if the time, that which is perceived as being masculine or feminine really is subjective.
i'm just getting at the point that females are "generally" structured for servitude. of course there are some who received an excess of testostrone during their development so they have masculine attributes. well all perception is subjective but scientifically speaking masculinity and femininity are chemically based. so what happens is the masculine (usually lesbian) radical feminists encourage all females to reject their natural submissive tendencies, resulting in lame ass women everywhere
There is some truth to what you just said, but mainly, you have proven to everyone who reads your comments that you are a simple-minded cretin who, for some reason, feels threatened by outspoken women.
i'm dont feel threatened by outspoken women, i just find them very irritating. people who read my comments will either be honest to themselves about nature, accept reality in secret, or deny it. most women have a natural purpose , that is to give birth and rear children and they are only fooling themselves if they think there is something more fulfilling to life. i think you are threatened by outspoken men, the one's that reject the nonsense that spews out of the mouths of outspoken women
I am not threatened by outspoken men at all. I value people as individuals, and unlike you, I don't marginalize people in terms of gender, nor do I cling to the social constructs of the past. You have no business determining the purpose of other people's lives. I've got news for you: the times they are a changin', the times have always been changing, and things will continue to change......except for people like you who seem to have an allergic reaction to evolution. Grow up.
i realize the times are changing, and i think, due to biological reasons, the changes are affecting "the woman" in a negative way in terms of happiness and contentment. i'm not determining the purpose of your life, i'm making generalities. and i never said men dont resort to personal attacks, i simply said that you do
and, as per usual, there is no substance backing up the outspoken woman. when she is backed into a corner she resorts to personal attacks, which really highlight her depth of character
So you're telling me men don't resort to personal attacks? Or are you saying that all the numerous men in the sausage fest that is you tube who banter back and forth, insulting each other left and right..... actually have vaginas? Which is it?
And by the way, ad hom attacks are only fallacies if they are used as substitutes for actual arguments. In your case, calling you a cretin is perfectly legitimate.
Again, I am not "resorting" to personal attacks as in a fallacious argument. I highly recommend that you refrain from making gross generalizations unless you are able to make proper distinctions and to think critically about what you are trying to say. I remind myself to do the same on a daily basis.
Are you serious with this shit?! I can't tell because you sound like an intelligent person from the manner of your expression but the content makes you sound like an idiot.
If you are serious, then I only have one thing to say.........."Look people, approach the cage slowly, I think we've found the rare and dangerous educated moron."
meaning, if Atheism WERE true, why the heck would i want to be like you? you don't seem happy or loving.
and -if- Christ is real, how are -you- supposed to be in a position of judgment against a God that is omniscient and sovereign? how can humans judge God from our perspective or "view"? and if God did not punish sin, would He be "just" and worth our respect? or would He be a "pushover"?
-and- if there is no god, how did you come to have "objective", not "subjective", morality?
God doesn't exist. There are flaws in his attributes that the unintelligent christian slaves couldn't overcome when they invented the idea of God to oppose everything the romans had; women, money, power, authority, posessions. You know man created God in his image when God hates all the people the christian slaves hated. Then the romans turned mainstream christian, and suddenly God becomes all loving, where previously he was vengeful, angry, hateful. G.O.D Is pretty much right.
There is no objective morality; morality is determined by our own personal beliefs, and those of the political laws imposed on us. The law says it's wrong to murder, some of us may not believe it, some of us may, but in the end it is enforced.
And i can judge God purely because man is his creator. Dostoyevsky said EVEN if God is real, he does not deserve our worship because he lets innocent children sufffer, and NOTHING can justify that, not even the giving of free will.
I dont personally know anyone who claims that athiesm will bring you happiness. Athiesm is not a belief, it is an absence of a particular belief. Nobody thinks that a child will be happier when it has grown up and realised there is no santa clause, of course you were happier when the magical man who rewarded you with gifts was real. I may be making too broad an argument here, I've grown up as an athiest and never had any belief in god, so I can't speak for those who have.
How original for you to say something like that. I wonder if you'd say it with the same amount of conviction, were not such a large amount of other people to be saying it to.
I would. I do in fact, I don't need large amounts of people supporting me in order to be atheist... Unlike christians who constantly seek to convert others so they don't fell lonely in their delution.
Do you honestly believe there to be absolutely "no" beliefs that's inevitably shared between all atheists?
Let me tell you a quick process of becoming an atheist. First you come across reasons, then by the understanding you gain from being exposed to these reasons, you drop the belief in God completely.
Were all these "reasons" to be non-controversial, they'd just be reasons. But because some of them are, they by definition become beliefs.
@MikeDecipher I'm not really sure if you are trolling or not but I will at least pretend you aren't for the sake of this comment.
What about people who never "become" atheists? I was never raised with any beliefs in the supernatural, I didn't even think people genuinely believed in deities until I was maybe ten years old. Before then I thought it was just like the way some kids believed in fairies and monsters etc.
Really? I didn't know there were people who did not become Atheists. So why are you an atheist (assuming you call yourself this); or is it that you have no conclusion for calling yourself this, like you've suggested in your comment? B/c it seem like what you're explaining, seem to be a case of intellectual un-humbleness.
"I have no conclusion for dis-believing in God, but I just don't believe he exist."
[I choose not to, but not for any particular reason]
And you "have" made a conclusion waffles. As a kid, I'm sure you thought to yourself: if believing in God is similar to believing in fairies and monsters, then I'm afraid that believing in God is not reasonable.
Which is a fairly reasonable conclusion to. And at that moment, you might of became an atheist.
But the problem with this is.. not all theists think that believing in God is similar to believing in fairies and monsters.
That still isn't a belief system. It was a casual, easy thing for me when I realized people really did believe in those things to dismiss it. And yes, later in life I thought about it a lot more and came to the conclusion that it is as silly as believing in/worshiping anything that is not demonstrably real/true, but I can't say I believe to know for a fact that any of it doesn't exist. I just don't happen to believe it does.
Like anyone would insult God at the cost of going to hell forever lol
geganobo 10 months ago
@geganobo No empty threat could scare me half as much as the idea of submitting to and obeying a cruel tyrant
ghostofdayinperson 10 months ago
And how do you intend to "dispose of religious fundamentalism once and for all"? It will always be around. The only solution is to ignore those crazy fuckers.
scruethedemiurge 1 year ago
yeah, FUCK that fake ass GOD
Dustencumbie 1 year ago
Why would I submit to a tyranny? The answer is fear. Oh, I'd take my chance at rebellion when it came, but I would bare the yoke until then. I think I know myself well enough to say that.
pumkinpi2 1 year ago
@pumkinpi2 No empty threat could scare me half as much as the idea of submitting to and obeying a cruel tyrant
ghostofdayinperson 10 months ago
@ghostofdayinperson The simple wish to be honest keeps me from mouthing praise to a phantom. Pascal wasn't just a coward, but a hypocrite as well.
pumkinpi2 10 months ago
@pumkinpi2 :)
ghostofdayinperson 10 months ago
where will we retire after we grow old together? I'd like to get an old tug boat and turn it into a houseboat. we can make geriatric love to the sounds of the ocean lapping against the hull.
cellularmitosis2 1 year ago
Hey g.o.d. - that's MISTER DOUCHE-BAGGINS TO YOU g.o.d.!!!!... Now get busy genuflecting and telling me how great I am!!!
(And don't forget about the donations cuz I'm tithing your ass till it bleeds!...GGGRRRR!!!)
farsajjj 1 year ago
Great video, I'm on board with you about this 100% ghost.
4:20-lol.
Have a nice day.
GravityFoxx 1 year ago
I can relate to this video. Sometimes after dealing with believers I start to wish that god did exist so that I could tell him what a total asshole he is for filling so many heads with nonsense. Sometimes I wish that god would be there when I die, so I could face him as another immortal being and show him for the ball-less shit that he is. Worship some monster that won't show his face and thinks eternal torture is a fitting punishment for refusal to kiss ass? Not in any life of mine.
Blackmark52 1 year ago
Nice rant from your inner .....demons.....I always liked how atheists try to free themselves from the bondage of truth, yet always rage war within themselves to constantly prove it to themselves and others in such media outlets....
the accounts of Christ had him driving out demons and curing the diseased.... disease is a very natural part of life, your anxiety is mental disorder, a bad disease that needs proper treatment...sorry you suffer so...
fverde2223 1 year ago
@fverde2223 They are trying to drive TOWARDS truth. The problem is that they have to deal with fallacious theistic ideas that are outdated and are aimed at the dulling of one's mind in order to become docile enough to believe in an invisible man in the sky.
geekofsteal 1 year ago
@geekofsteal ahh, truth - you just keep drilling down the "why" question.... when you find the end of that tunnel, I will have my answer and you will have nothing
fverde2223 1 year ago
@fverde2223 Either you are a "troll", or you seriously believe with no evidence that demons control peoples actions.
Find the end of what tunnel? The "why"?
You will have your answer only because you have fabricated one. That is what religion is. There is no investigation of assumtion and superstition. There is only blind faith. I will more likely stumble upon an answer to some of life's great mysteries through science. You will simply make up a pleasing, overly simplified explanation.
geekofsteal 1 year ago
@geekofsteal I am a biochem BS, MD, radiologist, doing plenty of research and published...what the fuck do you do that makes you an expert??? the more science I learn about this masterpiece of biochemical engineering, I appreciate how little we'll ever know about our design....if you think life is simply the infinite combination of random molecular interactions, now who is making an overly simplified explanation?
fverde2223 1 year ago
@fverde2223 Ah, a biochem 'BS'. That's all we need to know ;)
ghostofdayinperson 1 year ago 5
@ghostofdayinperson sorry I didnt complete my PhD, I didnt see myself pipetting for the rest of my life, I prefer MD and clinical research
fverde2223 1 year ago
@fverde2223 Best of luck with the BS! It will serve you well in heaven.
ghostofdayinperson 1 year ago
@ghostofdayinperson luck, bullshit, and heaven - fine words of superstition from an atheistic or humanist? (what do you people really call yourselves? perhaps nothing nihilists?). You must find such discourses humorous as I do....
(I hope you were not referring to my college education - it would reflect inability to comprehend acronyms on your part)
fverde2223 1 year ago
@fverde2223 Whether or not that is true, the idea that this wonderfully complex masterpiece implies that there must be a creator is a matter of both perception, and YOUR individual inability to imagine that physics and chemistry might just possibly work towards the level of intricacy we see around us without something or someone "pulling the leavers". Believer in God or not, all scientific disciplines will point out an "interwoven-ness" of all earthly and cosmic things. (1/2)
geekofsteal 1 year ago
@fverde2223 The idea that the complexity of the natural world is too amazing to possibly be of random occurance is what shuts one's mind off to ways of thinking seperate from the kind of thinking religion will instill. It is simpler to say that a God or being or intelligence "built" what there now is than to theorize and investigate. It is, and this is the most important point, EASYER to believe with no effort that a God did it. I too agree that we'll never fully know how this world works. (2/2)
geekofsteal 1 year ago
@geekofsteal Actually you will see alot of PhDs are religious people doing the science that you think is not possible because they believe in God. Your rebuttal is actually kind of weak. I'm half way reading the entire bible. Most of where atheists (I think) attack is Genesis as the rest of the bible is historical accounts, a blueprint for morality, ethics, and faith. Try reading it, you'll like it.
fverde2223 1 year ago
@fverde2223 Actually, you will see that I ignored your claim to education and profession to point out the difference between your thinking and mine. You keep shoving this PhD thing. Plus, I see that you told ghostofdayinperson that you didn't complete your PhD. My rebuttal was just fine, I think. My rebuttal was in 2 parts and covered the idea of non-willingness to think outside the "God-box".
Morality and ethics are both relative, and don't require the bible to be learned or applied.
geekofsteal 1 year ago
@geekofsteal ummm I never needed to complete a PhD...from Bachelor of Science (BS) to Medical Doctor (MD) doesn't require a Doctorate of Philosophy (PhD) - for those acronistically impaired. That argument of even the highest of the educated still have unopposed faith. The two are not mutually exclusive.
Without an authority (i.e. the Bible, God, Christ, etc), morality and ethics are formless and corruptible placing center of power onto man itself. Remember the Golden Rule is a biblical construct
fverde2223 1 year ago
@fverde2223 Never mind about the PhD then. I can see how the 2 can be unrelated.
(Higher education and faith being unrelated occasionally, that is.)
The authority you speak of might alternatively in the form of law and enforcement. Morality and ethics are, again, relative, subject to change, and even regional. For example, Muslims believe that it is okay to hit a woman if she is unruly. How hard is up for debate. (1/2)
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@fverde2223 If Godly ethics and morality are "incorruptable", then how do you account for Catholic priests molesting young altar boys? Where will we find your Golden Rule in the Crusades? The Salem Witch Trials? The Spanish Inquisition? Throughout history, these "incorruptable" laws of morality have been contradicted and outright broken in order to propogate the Chritians and Catholic religions, or they were simply broken because they are fallible. (2/2)
geekofsteal 1 year ago
@geekofsteal ahh yet another weak rebuttal. Unfortunately, you are being flagged for spam so this entertaining discussion will come to a close on my part. Nice talking to you!
fverde2223 1 year ago
@fverde2223 I feel that you are only claiming that my rebuttals are weak is so that you can try to belittle the arguement I am trying to make. To intimidate.
And why would you need to falg me for disagreeing? I certainly will not flag you for disagreeing. Why couldn't you have simply walked away from the arguement? Do you really require that my account be marked for my opinion?
At this point, I don't care if you have a BS or MD degree. You are very imature.
geekofsteal 1 year ago
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@fverde2223 If Godly ethics and morality are "incorruptable", then how do you account for Catholic priests molesting young altar boys? Where will we find your Golden Rule in the Crusades? The Salem Witch Trials? The Spanish Inquisition? Throughout history, these "incorruptable" laws of morality have been contradicted and outright broken in order to propogate the Chritians and Catholic religions, or they were simply broken because they are fallible. (2/2)
geekofsteal 1 year ago
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@fverde2223 If Godly ethics and morality are "incorruptable", then how do you account for Catholic priests molesting young altar boys? Where will we find your Golden Rule in the Crusades? The Salem Witch Trials? The Spanish Inquisition? Throughout history, these "incorruptable" laws of morality have been contradicted and outright broken in order to propogate the Chritians and Catholic religions, or they were simply broken because they are fallible. As fallible as a man who preeches them. (2/2)
geekofsteal 1 year ago
@fverde2223 BS as in Bullshit. Are you asserting that before the Bible, people had no idea concerning treating others as they would want to be treated? Nonsense.
As for the assertions made in post-Genesis Biblical books, they're as incompetently written as would be expected by Bronze-age goat herders having no better idea of how the world around them worked. Funny how the "Divine Inspiration" didn't fill them with correct information, isn't it?
trog69 8 months ago
"Hell no, I won't go, bitch!"
I think I have a crush on this girl. She is smart and cute.
Foreverclever87 1 year ago
This video was incredible. Simply incredible...You are -incredibly- intelligent, this video has taken the words right out of my mouth!
Cocarat206 2 years ago
I guess a simple way to put it is that I was technically an atheist when I was born, because I had no beliefs in deities. As a baby, I'm pretty sure I also didn't come to any conclusions about what was or was not reasonable to believe in. I simply had no beliefs. I was an atheist. I never changed that. I just went from implicit atheism, to explicit atheism.
snakewaffles 2 years ago
Atheists are "convinced" God does not exist. Even Dawkins layed it out a spectrum of convincement, ranging from Theists to Agnosticism to Atheism. So, if you just happened to not believe in God without any reason for coming to that conclusion, and if you were intellectually humble, you'd correctly be open or neutral to the idea that God exist; like an Agnostic.
MikeDecipher 2 years ago
The conclusion of Atheism inevitably entails other beliefs which Atheists share between them or are willing to share amongst each other. For example, the conventional view of materialism, the belief that Darwinian process alone explain evolution, the belief that consciousness is generated by the interaction of matter, and in most cases, reductionism.
MikeDecipher 2 years ago
Matters which are extremely controversial, I might add. These things are beliefs - conventional assumptions to be true. Atheism is a conventional indoctrination. And no, with these assumption, that does "not" make it neutral.
MikeDecipher 2 years ago
And I can see that your explanation is under the assumption that atheism is default. Atheism is natural, theism is unnatural; this is what you believe, right? Well I'm sorry to break it to you buddy, but that's an indoctrination. You can even look it up in the dictionary. Atheism may be a disbelief in God, but it's also a doctrine.
MikeDecipher 2 years ago
Atheism isn't a position as far as children go, it's a lack of a position. I'm not open to believing in things that are not demonstrably extant. I do hold a belief that it is irrational to believe in things which are not demonstrably extant. It simply never came up as a serious issue for me until I was in my teens and had to fend off street preachers and the like. I am now explicitly atheist and reject the idea of the supernatural.
snakewaffles 2 years ago
I'm not denying that I am an atheist, or that I have a personal belief system. My belief system, however, is not based on what I do not believe in. My belief system is based on my culture and what I've gathered from my life thus far. I think it's wrong to take certain actions and I think I have a responsibility to take certain actions and I'm neutral about a lot of stuff but it's not based on my rejection of religion and the idea of deities or unicorns or jesus riding dinosaurs.
snakewaffles 2 years ago
I'm not sure if I'm coming off as a bitch or like I'm trying to bicker and fight about it, I'm just meaning to get across the message that common values of atheists have may or may not have anything to do with us being atheists, depending on the person, but more to do with us being human and existing in the world and having the ability to reason.
snakewaffles 2 years ago
I'm also highly suspicious of your use of quotation marks, sir.
snakewaffles 2 years ago
Well that's the first time anyone said something like that towards me. Would you mind explaining your suspicion?
MikeDecipher 2 years ago
Just the unnecessary quotation marks. "not" and "convinced" etc.
I just don't GET IT but yeah, I was mostly being flippant with that comment.
snakewaffles 2 years ago
"God" loves athiests. Because they are a lot closer to being "good people" than those disgusting hypocrites with glued on morals that believe in some sadistic, pettyminded human that lives in the sky.
Anyway, pointing out to believers their arguments and belief doens't make any sense whatsoever is no sport really.
SteveSpicerPortsmuth 2 years ago
Also, being an atheist doesn't make you "smart" or grown up. It is, as you said, merely a denial.
imatube2 2 years ago
Good video =)
*****
MikeDecipher 2 years ago
"heres Jay Z admitting to this fact."
ROFL?! Those rapers are ALL, ON DRUGS!
HAHAHAHA!
Boopedi 2 years ago
Even if he existed, non serviam.
andrew49247 2 years ago 2
Jesus is my bitch...
ndoki9 2 years ago 2
You know... She looks a little like Chris Crocker.
Just a thought. What do you think?
StarSaphire26 2 years ago
i agree i think free will is a human consept and it dosnt exist
eldor21 2 years ago
Here is one idea of God
watch?v=rd2wqiUriu
eatlecithin 2 years ago
Trés cool. I liked the audio at 2:25, and the lighting and camera angle gave a nice sort of atmosphere.
But I doubt that you would actually prefer hell to worshiping god. Imagine worshiping god. Hell is that and worse.
rontheweasle 2 years ago 2
Haha- are you fucking kidding me? Why would I "prefer" Hell? All I'm saying is that its more important to do the right thing and tell "God" he's wrong, should he exist, than it is to protect myself from a hypothetical threat. Peace.
ghostofdayinperson 2 years ago
What I'm saying is that, if this God were real, and if he sent everyone who didn't worship him to hell, then I don't know how anyone can choose hell over worshiping him. That is, if that anyone knew for certain that this was real.
I thought the video was about what you would do if you actually met God. I mean, fear is a powerful thing. It can stop you from doing things like standing up to all powerful tyrants.
rontheweasle 2 years ago
how are you an atheist but your talking to God?
Medafoure 2 years ago
How can you watch this entire video and come up with a question as idiotic as that?
I know! YOU CLEARLY DIDN'T WATCH IT. Try again,dummy.
Bye bye.
ghostofdayinperson 2 years ago
no need for name calling I was simply asking a question which you can't answer.
your talking about God demeaning Him ect. yet you dont believe in God. you make no sense. so i questioned you.
Medafoure 2 years ago
Well, it's hypothetical. IF this God existed, this is what she'd do.
rontheweasle 2 years ago
I dont think it is hypothetical cause she is so angry, so she not in a emotion as if it was she acting as if He does exist.
If someone were to talk about flying flowers no body would be this emotional about it. in biblical terms this is cause of a manifest of a demon. she suites it
perfectly
Medafoure 2 years ago
I don't think she's angry at god. I think she's angry at people who don't care about people suffering. Those kinds of people are most certainly real. GhostofDay is transferring her anger at those people, into this entertaining video about god and hell.
rontheweasle 2 years ago 3
Yes, a demon. She's possessed by a demon. Right.
You're saying that on a computer. Connected to the internet. Shouldn't you be in Nigeria somewhere dancing around in a grass skirt with a skull necklace and face mask so the rain will come this season? How do you have time for modern technology and youtube when there's all these demons you gotta protect your tribe from?
Do you rub goats blood on your monitor to prevent demons from jumping through the magic glass?
KaseyAkira 2 years ago 10
First of all...ROFL
2nd you have no idea what a demon is nor have you ever seen one. people can be in the city and still have demons, there not limited to an certin country. read a book. the can go into anybody that lets them.
heres Jay Z admitting to this fact.
watch?v=jzOgJjWKmns&feature=PlayList&p=D4FBDA1513B77063&index=26
Medafoure 2 years ago
Ok, everyone, step back. Dont feed the troll.
Shoulda realized it sooner... but really, the "Jay Z is an expert on demonology" makes it pretty obvious. Leave ghostofday alone.
KaseyAkira 2 years ago
this just in
YOUR A DEMON
Medafoure 2 years ago
They would be if those same flying flowers caused needless death and suffering to the entire world.
ManaMalaka 2 years ago
@Medafoure She's creating a HYPOTHETICAL dialogue with something that may or may not exsist.
geekofsteal 1 year ago
@geekofsteal
So why not be angry about smurfs? Flying bears with rainbows on their stomachs? Buddha? Krishna? Thor? Zeus? Allah?
Why the Christian God always has to be attacked?
BECAUSE HE"S REAL!!
And deep down everybody knows it. Ever her. I can tell you that the demon in her believes.
Medafoure 1 year ago
@Medafoure She isn't angry about those things because they're inconsequential.
The Christian God is attacked the most because it is represented by a majority of people in this country who THINK he's real. In the same way that YOU imply that smurfs, flying bears with rainbows on their stomachs, Buddha, Krishnam, Thor, Zeus, and "Allah" aren't real or hold no value, ghostofdayinperson is trying to say the same. She holds the Christian God to be just as fallacious and silly. As do I.
geekofsteal 1 year ago
@geekofsteal
"She isn't angry"
Oh shes angry alright. Cause shes demonic. Well we will, see who gets the cosmic pwnage soon enough.
Medafoure 1 year ago
@Medafoure She isn't angry about Thor, smurfs, flying bears, etcetera because they aren't the Christian God. You are right. She IS angry. But not at those other examples. No, we will not see who gets the comic ownage. What happens when you die is that you rot in the ground. It is as simple as that. Any further assumtion simply requires a ridiculous amount of......faith. And there is no such thing as a demon, or a demonic person. This woman has created a skit in an angry tone. No demons required.
geekofsteal 1 year ago
there is no god, so don't bother with what to want to say to it
I like how you say douchebaggins, lol
funny video
ameliaKane 2 years ago
that's not why I made the video.
ghostofdayinperson 2 years ago
douchebaggins lol.
psilosilly 2 years ago
I f i have to go to hell, I want at least an Harley.
zqewkl 2 years ago
let me give you a nice back rub, youll feel soooo much better
1GOD1JESUS 2 years ago
The book of Gibberish has no rules except one:
'Thou shall henceforth not ever, under any circumstances, refuse a back rub'.
Espidus (Shfourteenteen) $@14^^, Verse Shfifty five.
Yes. A back rub would definitely be helpful.
ghostofdayinperson 2 years ago
Tis better to reign in hell, than serve in heaven.
Most christians ask me, if god proved himself to be real, wouldn't you bow before him Alannah? And I smile and state the following:
No. The only way someone like me would bow before such a dictatorial piece of trash is if he broke my kneecaps.
Five stars Ghostofdayinperson, but to be honest when you call Yahweh an asshole.....you're being too nice.
AlannahBabalon156 2 years ago
Agreed. More appropriate terms for the monster would be: eternal prick in the sky, or......SADIST. That's more like it. I had more but I'm too drained to think about it.
ghostofdayinperson 2 years ago
you frighten me.
biggreenloops 2 years ago
total cosmic pwnage. 10 points.
etherealsting 2 years ago
the word GOD itself is fabricated by humans who want to exploit the positive power,same goes for the DEVIL,they misuse the negative power,and for what?To gain control on you...its up to yourself to balance those two to achieve your OWN power.Choosing only one side will lead to false inner peace,because sooner or later that other side you left out will start knocking,either you listen or u go deaf... thats what i think.
loyk10 2 years ago
Even if an immaterial being reveals itself as a creator god, this doesn't mean that it's true. In some non-christian doctrine there are different realms of existence with different beings; like heavenly realms with many immaterial beings, but none of them is the creator of the universe. They have their own ignorance, delusion and other defilements, like we, humans do.
Baratgab 2 years ago
In the same doctrine hell is not a commanded eternal place, but a simple impermanent existence, to which natural laws bind the mind: when a mind is strongly entangled in anger, fear or other type of suffering/defilement, at the end of the human life the stream of consciousness inclines to a state of existence that solely consists of this experience. Basically, the only thing that keeps the beings in suffering is their own ignorance.
BTW, I can help you with your mental problems. :)
Baratgab 2 years ago
ghostofdayinperson you are my spirit animal.
preachingsin 2 years ago
I don't know, as an atheist, if Yahweh ever proved he was real to me (hard to do as I would probably believe I was dreaming or high) but if he could, I think I might 'puss' out in telling him off. Forever (however unfathomable that is) is a long time to be waterboarded ;)
Hopeful71 2 years ago
Glad to know someone else still has their sanity intact.
voodoovin1408 2 years ago
Wow.. can I get you some cheese to go with that whine?
hugesinker 2 years ago
Where did God get such a big ego anyway? Why does he need everything to worship him. Is God really flattered to have weak humans praise him. Isn't it better to be praised by superiors rather than a bunch of sycophants. But as God has no superiors couldn't he just pat himself on the back and call it good?
infernalstinkmonkey 2 years ago
What if god told you that he/she never wrote the bible or sent a son?... He/she never had contact with humans. What if god said to you that he/she and you are one and the same being?
RoundSquareX 2 years ago
I love how you would stick to what's right no matter what the situation. I think that that's very admirable.
drac16 2 years ago 5
You rock
ann998 2 years ago
Don't look at me like that.....take my wallet....
gbcharlie 2 years ago
Ahh, another "Dear God" letter.
Nice mood music. Did you make it yourself?
zarkoff45 2 years ago
yep-- FL studio 6
ghostofdayinperson 2 years ago
Thanks.
I just started the download on the free trial version.
I've been using the freeware "Audacity Audio Editor" and "Anvil Studio" plus a midi to .wav converter.
zarkoff45 2 years ago
Wow! I'm dealing with a lot of ups and downs right now, but I never lose sight of the fact that it's just simply amazing that we could even realize we're alive in the first place.
If God does exist (and I'm not saying he does or not), I would hope that he/she/it was a lot smarter than us and that the reasons for everything in life will eventually become very clear and understanding to us. I really do understand your anger, but I hope that deep down you could find some hope in this at least.
jxaxmxixn 2 years ago
I'm on the fence right now when it comes to God, so don't think I'm trying to push anything on you. I just hope you could find it in you to keep an open mind to possibility.
jxaxmxixn 2 years ago
I will always be agnostic about god with the little g, for my mind is malleable, and I intend to keep it that way. As for the alleged Yahweh and Allah......fuck 'em. I just fucked 'em both with my open mind. ;)
ghostofdayinperson 2 years ago
I hear you... I do...
And I'll definitely take to mind that big G little g thing...
Also, you are an unbelievably talented artist by the way!
(not to get off subject or anything ;-)
jxaxmxixn 2 years ago
Hell is essentially a paradox, when you think about it. Let's assume it's real, most people obey God's laws and worship him because they fear eternal hellfire if they don't. But God is all-knowing, therefore, he would know that it was a bullshit faith and send them to hell anyway, right?
Not really relevant, just wanted to get it out there.
ratboi102 2 years ago
I've done this exact same thing many times, told people that if there is a god he is one sick fuck and I would refuse to worship him and I would tell him to fuck off to his face, what kind of sick fuck creates being and then expects them to worship him? its funny how christians call you insane for believing in ghosts or something but then they believe in god, bunch of scumbag hypocrits. and no, I don't think we appeared from nothingness, doesn't make the bible right.
hmjgriffon 2 years ago
btw, I also suffered from extreme panic attacks for several years but have beaten them back to where I normally don't even feel anxious. I hope you have been able to do the same.
TruthSurge 2 years ago
good points! Don't take me wrong but it's good to see more women speaking out about the atrocities and ridiculousness of religion! Douche Baggins. HAHAHAHA that was a good one. AND a great point. Yahwehjehovahelgodoh is very hypocritical, isn't it?
You are right. I would never bow down to such a tyrant who has no regard for human life. Rock on!
TruthSurge 2 years ago
ur cute!
CrackedHalo 2 years ago
It is for some reason categorically not possible not to like you.
What is GOD an acronym for?
Erdös called the Christian personal god, sf for "supreme fascist"
watch?v=1qeWugmiGt4
RationalEmotive 2 years ago
we didnt just suddenly appear and thats why people turn to religion and everything has to have rules they are set and if you dont follow them and be a smartass about them
all that happens is that you get fucked over big time
and also God in whatever religion you believe in is loving and caring
and is sertantly not an asshole and is deffinatly no-ones "bitch"
ty4mem 2 years ago
Just take a deep breath and relax. If you didn't know, some Christians believe that Yahweh is a wrathful God who wants to send people to Hell for simply not believing in him. This video specifically addresses these people. I am attacking radical ideas in this video, not religion in general, so please get a hold of yourself. I have my own criticisms of religion, but that's another story. :)
ghostofdayinperson 2 years ago
Mainly, this video addresses atheists who would not stand up to a hypothetical tyrant.
ghostofdayinperson 2 years ago
i dont get it?
so what do atheists believe?
that the human race is just another animal
and that when you die al that happens is you rot in the ground
everyone came from somewhere,
ty4mem 2 years ago
Yes, humans are just another animal and when you die, you just rot in the ground. Actually, because of embalming, you're more likely to leech toxic chemicals into the ground than rot, but hey.
alaskafido 2 years ago 3
I'm an atheist and I couldn't disagree with you more.
If there is an all powerful being and heaven and hell, then what's the point of being openly defiant to make yourself feel good in the 70 or so years you have on this planet. You're not going to get that smug satisfaction burning in hell.
I think you're comparing apples and oranges. Don't get me wrong, if he exists, god is a bastard, but you compare an omniscient to some 3rd world dictator. Just my opinion.
DblOSmith 2 years ago
That's why it doesn't make sense for the "creator of the universe" to be such an egomaniac. That's why I don't believe a being like that would exist. But let me ask you this: if people don't stand up to tyrants, how do you think we can achieve any kind of personal freedom? I'm not talking about hypothetical tyrants here. Whether the tyrant exists or not is irrelevant; it is the weak attitude that is the problem.
ghostofdayinperson 2 years ago
In your hypothetical we're not talking about what makes sense, we're talking about what IS.
Your hypothetical is ridiculous. If god exists in the form we're talking about, than you won't get ANYTHING by standing up to him. Yes, a earthly tyrant you might change his mind or change his Lt.'s mind or do a violent overthrow, but you're not going to change the mind or overthrow an omniscient, omnipotent god. That's the difference. It's futile, smug, and not logical.
I AM an atheist, btw.
DblOSmith 2 years ago
I see what you're saying, and sure, if I were faced with a very real possibility of torture, you bet I would do anything to get out of it. However, in this video I am trying to make the point that the concept of such a cruel deity is not only nonsensical, but unacceptable, and it pains me to see people accepting such a monstrous God. Its time to expose the sadism of such harmful religious views.
ghostofdayinperson 2 years ago
"You won't get ANYTHING . . ." it's not what I would hope to gain but rather what I keep and that is my dignity, and by the way heaven, according to the gospel, is clearly not that great.
lookit87 2 years ago
Well, hell will have all of the interesting people anyways.
boxant 2 years ago
Even if theism were true I would fight that being. I understand your anger ghostofday!
nontheistdavid 2 years ago
One thing I will never understand is why would an omniscient and omnipotent being NEED to be worshipped by definition? To need something is to be LACKING in something and a omniscient omnipotent being cannot be lacking in anything by definition. I am with Christopher Hitchens when he said "Who would want theism to be true ANYWAY?"
nontheistdavid 2 years ago
there you go again with immature childish ad hom attacks... you can't help yourself can you?
CapnnOrdinary 2 years ago
ad hom attacks are only fallacies if they are used as SUBSTITUTES for actual arguments. I am not "resorting" to personal attacks as in a fallacious argument. If I have to remind you of this again you are getting blocked...and before you accuse me of censorship, keep in mind that you are infringing upon my peace of mind on MY channel. Therefore, it is perfectly fair for me to block you at this point. I have allowed you to comment freely and I have responded to your arguments reasonably.
ghostofdayinperson 2 years ago
ad hom attacks are only fallacies if they are used as SUBSTITUTES for actual arguments.
ghostofdayinperson 2 years ago
ad hom attacks are only fallacies if they are used as SUBSTITUTES for actual arguments.
ghostofdayinperson 2 years ago
ad hom attacks are only fallacies if they are used as SUBSTITUTES for actual arguments.
ghostofdayinperson 2 years ago
ad hom attacks are only fallacies if they are used as SUBSTITUTES for actual arguments.
ghostofdayinperson 2 years ago
Nice........
foxtrot77777 2 years ago
Me to (so-called) God - "What the FUCK?"
JTravisRolko 2 years ago
what proper distinctions am i failing to make? what areas am i failing to critically address? please tell the cretin, he's too stupid to know for himself
Weezzuul 2 years ago
When you say, "what happens is the masculine (usually lesbian) radical feminists encourage all females to reject their natural submissive tendencies, resulting in lame ass women everywhere", you fail to explain why it is "lame" for women to live the way that feels right to them as individuals. You fail to realize that not all lesbians are masculine, and not all straight women are submissive. There are plenty of submissive men in the world too you know....and many of these men are not gay.
ghostofdayinperson 2 years ago
its lame because its not natural for most women. women are indoctrinated by the media and institutions into thinking they are degrading themselves by accepting motherhood etc. sure it feels right for some women, but those women whom it feels right for shouldnt try to encourage all women to adopt a perspective or lifestyle that they feel is right. most lesbians i have met are masculine. most straight women have submissive tendencies, and i never said anything about gay or submissive men. clearer?
Weezzuul 2 years ago
Stop speaking on behalf of people you don't know.
Not all women want to be mothers. I certainly don't embrace motherhood, and its not because I've been persuaded my the media. Its because that's just the way I am. You are being extremely presumptuous about all people, really.
ghostofdayinperson 2 years ago
i know there are woman like you who dont want to be mothers. thats fine. i just dont think woman lke you should be pursuading all women that motherhood is a terrible thing because it undermines their natural inclinations that will provide them with happiness. and i'm not saying you do this either. you may not think the media has pursuaded you, but think about what your attitude towards motherhood would be if you lived in a pre-modern society. it would inform your identity as a woman
Weezzuul 2 years ago
i know correlation does not equal causation, but in the united states an estimated 30% of women suffer from depression, more than double than that of men. what is causing this? i think resisting biological inclinations plays a role but i could be wrong
Weezzuul 2 years ago
When have I tried to persuade women not to have kids? When"? Answer: NEVER. If women want to have kids that's their choice. DO NOT misrepresent what I am saying. HOW dare you assume how I feel. YOU DON'T KNOW ME.
ghostofdayinperson 2 years ago
we all know this is not how she would really react. how absurd. i hope this video wasn't intented to be funny but ihave a feeling it was. she should check out what fellow atheist christopher hitchens has to say about females who try to be funny.
Weezzuul 2 years ago
What does being female have to do with anything? btw-- I heard what Hitchens had to say about female comedians, and its bullshit. I'm not trying to be funny. If I happen to make people laugh, then great. If not, then fine.
ghostofdayinperson 2 years ago
well because females are not funny. well thats not true. they can be naturally funny, but when they try to use masculine humour it turns out being very abrasive. well, at least to me. i could be wrong but i assume you hold non-essentialist views of gender, which, considered through an evolutionary/biological paradigm is as fantastical as any supernatual belief. if you reject the notion of all equal under god, then the reality of female inferiority (intellectual, physical etc) cannot be ingored
Weezzuul 2 years ago
I don't really know what you're getting at, but from what I have picked up from the tone of your comments, you strike me as being somewhat narrow minded about humor and gender. Every human being has his or her own balance of masculinity and femininity, which is what makes us individuals. Further, much if the time, that which is perceived as being masculine or feminine really is subjective.
ghostofdayinperson 2 years ago
i'm just getting at the point that females are "generally" structured for servitude. of course there are some who received an excess of testostrone during their development so they have masculine attributes. well all perception is subjective but scientifically speaking masculinity and femininity are chemically based. so what happens is the masculine (usually lesbian) radical feminists encourage all females to reject their natural submissive tendencies, resulting in lame ass women everywhere
Weezzuul 2 years ago
There is some truth to what you just said, but mainly, you have proven to everyone who reads your comments that you are a simple-minded cretin who, for some reason, feels threatened by outspoken women.
ghostofdayinperson 2 years ago
i'm dont feel threatened by outspoken women, i just find them very irritating. people who read my comments will either be honest to themselves about nature, accept reality in secret, or deny it. most women have a natural purpose , that is to give birth and rear children and they are only fooling themselves if they think there is something more fulfilling to life. i think you are threatened by outspoken men, the one's that reject the nonsense that spews out of the mouths of outspoken women
Weezzuul 2 years ago
I am not threatened by outspoken men at all. I value people as individuals, and unlike you, I don't marginalize people in terms of gender, nor do I cling to the social constructs of the past. You have no business determining the purpose of other people's lives. I've got news for you: the times they are a changin', the times have always been changing, and things will continue to change......except for people like you who seem to have an allergic reaction to evolution. Grow up.
ghostofdayinperson 2 years ago
i realize the times are changing, and i think, due to biological reasons, the changes are affecting "the woman" in a negative way in terms of happiness and contentment. i'm not determining the purpose of your life, i'm making generalities. and i never said men dont resort to personal attacks, i simply said that you do
Weezzuul 2 years ago
and, as per usual, there is no substance backing up the outspoken woman. when she is backed into a corner she resorts to personal attacks, which really highlight her depth of character
Weezzuul 2 years ago
So you're telling me men don't resort to personal attacks? Or are you saying that all the numerous men in the sausage fest that is you tube who banter back and forth, insulting each other left and right..... actually have vaginas? Which is it?
ghostofdayinperson 2 years ago
And by the way, ad hom attacks are only fallacies if they are used as substitutes for actual arguments. In your case, calling you a cretin is perfectly legitimate.
ghostofdayinperson 2 years ago
Again, I am not "resorting" to personal attacks as in a fallacious argument. I highly recommend that you refrain from making gross generalizations unless you are able to make proper distinctions and to think critically about what you are trying to say. I remind myself to do the same on a daily basis.
ghostofdayinperson 2 years ago
Are you serious with this shit?! I can't tell because you sound like an intelligent person from the manner of your expression but the content makes you sound like an idiot.
If you are serious, then I only have one thing to say.........."Look people, approach the cage slowly, I think we've found the rare and dangerous educated moron."
hoydengirl 2 years ago
meaning, if Atheism WERE true, why the heck would i want to be like you? you don't seem happy or loving.
and -if- Christ is real, how are -you- supposed to be in a position of judgment against a God that is omniscient and sovereign? how can humans judge God from our perspective or "view"? and if God did not punish sin, would He be "just" and worth our respect? or would He be a "pushover"?
-and- if there is no god, how did you come to have "objective", not "subjective", morality?
CapnnOrdinary 2 years ago
God doesn't exist. There are flaws in his attributes that the unintelligent christian slaves couldn't overcome when they invented the idea of God to oppose everything the romans had; women, money, power, authority, posessions. You know man created God in his image when God hates all the people the christian slaves hated. Then the romans turned mainstream christian, and suddenly God becomes all loving, where previously he was vengeful, angry, hateful. G.O.D Is pretty much right.
RazorShultzor 2 years ago
There is no objective morality; morality is determined by our own personal beliefs, and those of the political laws imposed on us. The law says it's wrong to murder, some of us may not believe it, some of us may, but in the end it is enforced.
And i can judge God purely because man is his creator. Dostoyevsky said EVEN if God is real, he does not deserve our worship because he lets innocent children sufffer, and NOTHING can justify that, not even the giving of free will.
RazorShultzor 2 years ago
I dont personally know anyone who claims that athiesm will bring you happiness. Athiesm is not a belief, it is an absence of a particular belief. Nobody thinks that a child will be happier when it has grown up and realised there is no santa clause, of course you were happier when the magical man who rewarded you with gifts was real. I may be making too broad an argument here, I've grown up as an athiest and never had any belief in god, so I can't speak for those who have.
hoydengirl 2 years ago
Atheism is the belief that the universe if ran by naturalistic forces.
Theism is the belief that the universe if ran by super-naturalistic forces.
MikeDecipher 2 years ago
@MikeDecipher
Atheism is not a belief! Why you people don't get it?! Is it biological or what?!
razzihel 2 years ago
@razzihel
How original for you to say something like that. I wonder if you'd say it with the same amount of conviction, were not such a large amount of other people to be saying it to.
MikeDecipher 2 years ago
I would. I do in fact, I don't need large amounts of people supporting me in order to be atheist... Unlike christians who constantly seek to convert others so they don't fell lonely in their delution.
razzihel 2 years ago
So you don't? Okay.. =) I believe you.
MikeDecipher 2 years ago
Do you honestly believe there to be absolutely "no" beliefs that's inevitably shared between all atheists?
Let me tell you a quick process of becoming an atheist. First you come across reasons, then by the understanding you gain from being exposed to these reasons, you drop the belief in God completely.
Were all these "reasons" to be non-controversial, they'd just be reasons. But because some of them are, they by definition become beliefs.
MikeDecipher 2 years ago
@MikeDecipher I'm not really sure if you are trolling or not but I will at least pretend you aren't for the sake of this comment.
What about people who never "become" atheists? I was never raised with any beliefs in the supernatural, I didn't even think people genuinely believed in deities until I was maybe ten years old. Before then I thought it was just like the way some kids believed in fairies and monsters etc.
snakewaffles 2 years ago
@snakewaffles
Really? I didn't know there were people who did not become Atheists. So why are you an atheist (assuming you call yourself this); or is it that you have no conclusion for calling yourself this, like you've suggested in your comment? B/c it seem like what you're explaining, seem to be a case of intellectual un-humbleness.
"I have no conclusion for dis-believing in God, but I just don't believe he exist."
[I choose not to, but not for any particular reason]
MikeDecipher 2 years ago
And you "have" made a conclusion waffles. As a kid, I'm sure you thought to yourself: if believing in God is similar to believing in fairies and monsters, then I'm afraid that believing in God is not reasonable.
Which is a fairly reasonable conclusion to. And at that moment, you might of became an atheist.
But the problem with this is.. not all theists think that believing in God is similar to believing in fairies and monsters.
MikeDecipher 2 years ago
@MikeDecipher Is English your native language?
That still isn't a belief system. It was a casual, easy thing for me when I realized people really did believe in those things to dismiss it. And yes, later in life I thought about it a lot more and came to the conclusion that it is as silly as believing in/worshiping anything that is not demonstrably real/true, but I can't say I believe to know for a fact that any of it doesn't exist. I just don't happen to believe it does.
snakewaffles 2 years ago