NZ dairy firm criticised over China milk scandal - 29 Nov 08

[ChinaKillsTibetans]

Fonterra management were warned by people who know far more about China than they do about investing in China. But they ignored the advice and got burnt. Now they want to blame the situation in China for their incompetence.

Fonterra management was and still is a joke. If you are going to invest in China you take a huge risk and need to have HIGHER quality control than in NZ. Because Chinese are NOT free to speak out when there is a problem in China.

LEARN about State CONTROL in China

[arohaeternal]

Not a new zealand company,new zealand was just dumb enuf to let these freaks operate and poison the beautiful land there,idiot government and greedy council murderers!!!

[hdj266]

powerful and 1st world nation china! :)

[darkwatch001]

china must die....nuke em all!!!

[usviewasia]

heyyy guess what, they just found out that milk produce in America(my home fucking country) is even worse than China's milk,(some brand)... sad....

[EdT586]

90% of US produced powder milk contains melamine, just Google it !

Its even on the FDA's site, it recently states that melalmine is now safe ...LoL when it stated that any melamine was not acceptable during the tainted milk crisis in China !

American news media lies and greedy corporate businesses control the FDA !

[somethingawful01]

Very good report, but calling China Communist was horrifyingly wrong.

China has adopted the 1930's version of US Capitalism. So, please, Al Jazeera, don't make that mistake again.

[aspectratio]

Chinese are following the capitalist copybook - profits over people - just like Western business crooks

[ACTORnSCREENWRITER]

See this is what happens when you trust the Chinese Communist Party's business methods

China only cares about making money, and will shaft the consumer to make that quick buck.

Companines it's ok to buy/sell electronics from China (if you must) but NEVER manufature your foods/medicines/pet foods in China

Unless, you want to lost $80,000,000+ like this company did, and your hard earned reputation down the crapper

[lynne02191]

to ACTORnSCREENWRITER:

see..that's y i hate your kind,I can't even agree with ur first sentence,what's ur fuckin wrong with communist?don't put this heading on every bad thing that happened in China alright?are u normally judge a society from one person's behaviour,u serious joker?and no one forcing you here.if u dislike us,just stay where u r,is post things bad of China make u high?

[aquamammal]

All capitalist mentalities are about the bottom you ignorant racist pissant.

Keep food local, and what the fuck are we even drinking milk for?

Fuck milk.

XVX for life, R.A.S.H. 'til death.

[ACTORnSCREENWRITER]

I agree somewhat. As I am thinking about becoming a vegan again.

T'was the most healthiest ever

[aquamammal]

I wish I could channel you strength, but it's just a youtube comment at the end of the day.

Vegan for 3 years, stronger than I've ever been.

Peace.

[annarboriter]

if you do business with scoundrels, don't be surprised when you get burnt.

[ACTORnSCREENWRITER]

well put anna

[cheetah100]

This wasn't a problem created by New Zealand. China's dairy farmers practiced putting melamine in milk to fake increased protein. Fonterra took part ownership, and had little control over milk production or quality. Usually in China this issue would be covered up, but in this case because Fonterra had ethical standards they blew the whistle; even when it damaged them.

[booboomonger]

hmmmm...so your point is that Fonterra was nowhere near the problem at the time...and they didn't know nothing...and this is all China's fault because Fonterra has no control over its assets or production line in China. Fonterra 'didn't blow the whistle either' by the way. Four kids dying, and many, many more getting sick is what did that. By the way, what's your role at Fonterra?

[electango]

The point you miss is that China has a whole different view of the value of human life from the West. In China itself, during the Maoist era, tens of millions died in govt. contrived famines known as the Great Leap Forward and the Great Proletarian Cultural Revolution. So to the Chinese, what's 4 kids dying or 50,000 kids hospitalized? To the Chinese, it's a tempest in a teapot.

[cheetah100]

My bias is that I'm a NZer, not associated to Fonterra at all. What I'm saying is that if it were not for Fonterra involvement the Chinese Government could have ignored the issue and covered it up. An example of this is the thousands of children killed in the recent earthquake due to sub standard construction. I am VERY upset that Fonterra has risked New Zealand's reputation for high quality pure foods by making deals with companies it has no control over.

[AllieCaulfield]

New Zealand has the best dairy in the world.

[WKaliber1]

damn those kiwiees

[pillarofskulls]

yeah fuck kiwis

[pillarofskulls]

fuck New Zeland fuck dairy industry

[teemuruskeepaa]

fuck anglosaxon ex-imperialist attitudes

[electango]

Your point is the New Zealanders forced the Chinese to poison their dairy products?

[teemuruskeepaa]

No, the anglosaxons force other cultures to do and use their big corporations, in quite the same way as they did militarily during the British Empire. Alas, the Americans too are a former British colony.

[electango]

Why do you think the AngloSaxons are able to force other nations to do things? How were the AngloSaxons, for instance, able to force the ChineseCommunists to poison China's dairy supply? Is it because AngloSaxons are more intelligent than Chinese?

[teemuruskeepaa]

No, because AngloSaxons are more powerful. The invasive use of power is the problem with the AngloSaxons. They are the ultimate and original capitalist culture, who created industrialism, colonized the world and live in a merciless class society, worse than Finland.

[electango]

So how did the more powerful AngloSaxons actually force the ChineseCommunists to poison their own dairy supply? And are the AngloSaxons responsible for the mass exodus of Chinese worldwide? Are the AngloSaxons using Chinese emigrants to colonize the world?

[teemuruskeepaa]

No, but the Anglosaxons in NZ force the Chinese to buy their milk and replace their milk source. In other issues the Anglosaxons force everybody to do whatever. The whole profit making culture has been invented and imposed by the Anglosaxons.

[electango]

Your ignorance is astonishing. The Chinese invented profit making 10,000 years ago, when the AngloSaxons lived in caves. The melamine was put into the milk by the Chinese as a means of profit maximization. Your attempts to deflect responsibility from the Chinese to NZ is peculiar and wholly lacking in evidence. It would be amusing had there been no victims.

[teemuruskeepaa]

No ad hominem please. The Chinese closed inwards while the British founded a global empire.

[electango]

How does the existence of the British global empire or the Chinese global empire deflect responsibility for poisoning Chinese milk from the Chinese to the New Zealanders? Does the historical position of China as victim of Western and Japanese colonialism absolve present day Chinese of any responsibility for their criminal acts? Even if the victims of those criminal acts are the Chinese people themselves almost exclusively?

[funnychinesedude]

chinese didnt blame them NZlanders nor did they blame them Brits. Why are u so defensive electango?

[electango]

The Chinese didn't blame the NZlanders or the British. That is correct. But others are blaming them and it's wrong. I seek truth always.

[banzaidawan]

electango: You mean the Chinese invented CAPITALISM, while Westerners invented COMMUNISM.

[electango]

banzaidawan:Joseph Stalin, Vladimir Lenin and Mao TseTung were not Western at all. They were the ones who turned the ideas of Karl Marx into reality.

[SPIRITOFODIN]

Stop putting pollution in the products.... that could help your business.

[azas1949]

what did they say ?