How can somebody pray for their own health if they go out and kill their own kid? Rape is the argument the abortionist will use to make abortion legal, but everybody knows the truth here.
1: You cannot tell a grown woman what to do with her body
2: I would rather see a woman get an abortion in a sterile, clean doctors office with the latest state of the art surgical technology as compared to getting an abortion in a bacteria filled alley way by a black market doctor with a clothes hanger.
Anyone who says most abortions are due to rape are just trying to justify mass murder.....At the end of the day as those mostly on the left,kill their future.............We raise our children,and in a representative democracy that makes all the difference in the world.... We will being seeing you at the ballot box. I just registered my 4th son as a Republican,with 3 to go... :)
Rape or without rape, a woman has and should always have the FULL RIGHT OVER HER BODY. People who disagree with abortions are fukn pathetic and sucks der mommy didnt abort them.
ok as much as i do not believe in abortion i do agree that if u get pregnant by rape or incest then u shuld have the choice but most abortions are not done becuz of rape or incest and i believe that is where abortion should be illegal
To the idiot below me, she didn't create the life the rapist forced it on her just saying. Also it ain't killing unless it could survive if she were to go into labor.
@floridatom1964 Then why not kill all the criminals in the jails and the mentally ill that've been born? I mean, if you're okay with killing them as embryos, then why not as grown people? Oh, and how about those who suffer too? So they won't suffer. And oh! We should kill the poor too! That way they won't have to starve (and we won't have to feed them). And then the middle class! Because fuck those bastards. And then the rich! And then everyone else! Because mankind sucks.
@floridatom1964 There's no "criminal" gene. And if there was, we'd all have it, since we all have the capability for brutality. A statement proven by your willingness to "stick a screwdriver up there and scramble its brain!".
With your logic, we should kill every person who is related to someone who has committed a crime.
@floridatom1964 " What woman in her right mind would want to keep an criminally insane child?"
That's not how DNA and psychology works. A child's psychologic identity does not come from its DNA but by many diverse factors. Such as guardian/parents and environment etc. Criminally Insane kids often are the result of abusive parents.
1) Pregnancies resulting from rape are about 1-2 out of 1,000 rapes. That's only about 0.2 percent. Also, do two wrongs make a right? The child did not force his father to rape his mother.
2) Over-population is a myth.
3) Even if a kid would grow up in bad conditions. It still deserves the right to try and make a life for itself. Steve Jobs was adopted, yet he made it big. Everyone deserves a chance.
4) Women have the right to choose to not have sex. No one is forcing women to get pregnant.
Outlawing abourtion will only cost more emotional instability for women and force them to raise a child in an unstable enviornment. Not to mention more tax money is going towards foodstamps and welfare for someone that doesnt even want to have that child in the first place.
And you know what's funny also... How these anti-choice people stop giving a crap about the kid once it's here. Even if the moms raped they object to her getting an abortion yet, if she later needed welfare or foodstamps to take care of the kid (which wasn't her own choice to have) they don't wanna help her....also if you're not a vegetarian, are a female and have had a period, and are not having sex right this moment and call yourself pro-life you're a hypocrite.
@trackgirl2187 Exactly, enjoy being a mom at 13 living in sub standard housing with food stamps if you decide to keep it, and college? Forget about that shit, you're a mom now.
Adoption? What about the starving orphans in africa or the millions of parent-less chinese babies from the "one child" law? Might want to adopt those ones before you go creating more.
If I were the prime minister or president or ruler of a country I still wouldnt make people go to prison for having an abortion, all Im saying is I believe nobody should be getting one and that I would never get one.
Also all you saying that a rape victim has to keep the baby is just justifying what the rapist did...and besides what if this girl was like ten... I bet you'd still expect her to have it
@trackgirl2187 In the case of rape? Do two wrongs make a right? The baby did nothing. The rapist should be punished, not the baby. Besides, pregnancies that result from rape are so few they're hardly relevant to the case of abortion.
@SuburbiaSurvivor the baby will end up suffering either when being raised by an incompetent teen and learn what pain the mother went through, and will make them wonder since their daddy was such a sick bastard it'll make them always question themselves, and as for as non rape cases, would you rather the baby end up like Caylee Anthony whose parent did not want her
A) You do not know that it will suffer. You just assume that it will.
B) We ALL experience suffering in life. If killing a baby is justifiable because it is suffering, then why not kill all people who are currently suffering, poor, or otherwise not experiencing the quality of life we are used to?
C) Even if it will inevitably suffer, it still deserves the right to live it's life and face that suffering. Not be killed because "It'll just suffer anyway".
@SuburbiaSurvivor if fetuses are soo alive then why aren't the dates of conception counted as birthdays and why aren't they apart of the population count
@trackgirl2187 Probably because it's a lot harder to to pinpoint the actual date of a conception. Also it's called a "birthday" not a conception day. Back when the term "birthday" came about there was no way of knowing when a baby was conceived.
@trackgirl2187 1) For a fetus to be a parasite it would have to be a separate and invading species. So no, the only way for it to be even slightly parasitic would be for it to be a separate species. 2) A born infant can not survive on its own either. So guess infants aren't alive either, huh? 3) The only way for a fetus to not be alive would for it to be dead. But it's not dead, if it was dead, it wouldn't be growing and moving.
@trackgirl2187 I don't assume to know every Pro-Choice person. That's ridiculous. And would they all stop? At first, probably not. But a large portion of them would stop . Along with ending abortion other steps should be made for giving aid to pregnant single mothers, especially young mothers. The less the fetus is dehumanized the less people are going to see abortion as a just option.
@SuburbiaSurvivor your logic is flawed but I must say what about the choice of the women...forcing her to have a kid she doesn't want...and what's so funny about you anti- choice is that you force the woman to have the kid and if later she needs financial help you'll be the first to turn her down
@trackgirl2187 A) How is my logic flawed? B) She chose to have sex, that's not the child's fault. C) Anti-Choice? Sure. I'm also Anti-Choice when it comes to someone having the right to come into your room and shoot you in cold blood. D) Totally and completely false. There are hundreds of organization that are also Pro-Life created to give financial aid to single moms. Also, you can't assume to know every Pro-Life person. Although some may refuse to give care, many others will.
@SuburbiaSurvivor if women want abortions they are gonna get them....it would be much wiser to have it legal and for women to not be having back alley coat hanger terminations
@trackgirl2187 Just like if someone wants to murder someone else they're gonna do it. Doesn't mean we should legalize it and make it safe for the murderer.
Coat Hanger Terminations are old-fashioned. If they sought out illegal abortions at all they'd probably research modern methods.
The most effective way to make abortion rare is to make it illegal!
Also, I don't believe women should be heavily prosecuted for giving abortions, but the abortion doctors should since they are the real murderers
@SuburbiaSurvivor that would be sticking up for someone living rather than a fetus....again I must wonder why anti abortion people are so against womens rights to their own body
@trackgirl2187 A fetus is living. And for the love of all that is good in life, we are NOT AGAINST A WOMAN'S RIGHT TO HER OWN BODY. She can do whatever she wants! Get a tattoo! Dye her hair! Vote! Marry a midget! Be a lesbian! Protest! Get a job! Get a zillion piercings! Have sex whenever she wants, BUT, when she creates a human life, her killing that human life is robbing another human of it's right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. And that is overstepping her own rights.
@SuburbiaSurvivor maybe you.dont get that you cant force your beliefs on other people I dont myself believe in abortion but I cant force anyone else to believe what I do....and yes women still would find ways.to abort if it.was illegal....you cant force your beliefs on others
However, if someone had a gun to your head, and they believed they should have the right to pull the trigger and kill you, and I had the ability to stop him, should I? I don't believe the gun man should be able to kill you, but that's only my belief. By saving you, I would be forcing my beliefs on the gun man. So is it right to stop the gun man?
My body my choice. Woman should not be made incubators just because you think something that doesn't even have the capacity to think for itself should have an opinion on whether it lives or dies.
@trackgirl2187 because we dont know the exact date of conception and the word birthday has the word birth in it meaning the day you were born. Its not meant to be the day you got the first bit of life, its meant to be the day your mother gave birth to you.
What is worse, muder or rape? To me, its murder. And people are commiting murder to their children because the fathers stupid choses. Because aparently when someone commits a sin against you, your supossed to ciommit a bigger sin on your helpless baby? I hate knowing that people acually think like that in this world.
Unfortunately America is now a country where people think it's okay to NOT carry your baby for nine months. What happened to adoption? Hello? That baby deserves life. And you deserve peace of mind from your rape. A baby isn't a consequence of an unexpected pregnancy. Stop treating babies like they are consequences. What scares me more than rape? The fact that I live in a country where mothers would choose to kill a baby. Adoption. Parenting. It is never okay to kill (as she admits is) a baby.
Some people are so frigen selfish. They want to commit murder just because somebody else commited the crime of rape. Is it the babies fault that its father is a rapist? No. And some mothers would rather kill their child then have to go through labour. Labour and pregnacy only last 9 months. Killing a human being last forever.
@ShaniaBieber30 So does the emotional trauma of rape. Clearly you're too immature to have a clear understanding of what you're trying to argue. Go listen to more Bieber and have a slumber party with your friends.
@Kortneiii Yeah the emotional trama of rape is gonna last forever whether you have the baby or not. Im not saying raise the baby just let it have the choice to live. And Im obvouisly more mature then you, Im stating good points on why Im pro life, while your getting frustrated and making fun of me to try and make me frustrated. Which honestly is not a mature way to handle things. Im only saying that in my opinion people should put their children needs (to live for instance) above their own needs
@ShaniaBieber30 If you were mature, you'd respect that different people have different needs, and no woman should be forced to carry a fetus for 9 months if she doesn't want to. I'm not getting frustrated, I'm simply telling you that you don't have the capacity to understand the lasting effect having a rape baby would have on a person. Your username just reinforces my point. I bet you one forced pregnancy that you're secretly pro-choice. ;)
@Kortneiii I am mature its just kind of hard to respect that different people like murdering their own children. I just dont think that its right and I try to change peoples minds about it because I feel sorry for the helpless babies. And acually yes I do have the capacity to understand the lasting effect of having a rape baby and I understand that it would be an absolutly horrifying exsperience but I think killing your own child is a much more horrifying thing and acually if I were raped I -
@Kortneiii I would have the baby because I would put my child above myself and I wouldnt want to punish it for its fathers mistakes. I sincerly hope I dont get put in a situation like that but if i am then i would at least let the baby survive even if i didnt choose to keep it. And just because I like Justin Bieber, doesnt mean Im some 10 year old, alot of older teenagers like him too so dont judge me on who i like.
@Kortneiii Also about your comment 2 days ago that i never saw until now, why would you take that risk. Could be the smartest person alive, could have a terrible life, could be normal, whatever happens at least it can live. Why kill it when there is still a high chance that it will have a fairly decent life? And when a baby is inside of the womb its still a human, a baby, it still has life, it should have the same rights as anybody else in the world.
@ShaniaBieber30 Where are you getting this information? LOL. There isn't a "high chance that it will have a -fairly decent- life", and what justifies "fairly decent" because I'm sure living in a foster home with depression sounds just great. If you think a parasitic organism that is living off a woman deserves it's own rights, I guess you believe in tapeworm rights too.
@Kortneiii Its not just a "parasitic organism" It is a BABY! It doesnt take long for its heart to start beating and its brain to start functioning and for it to start feeling. And even though it cant do anything at first and its equal to a blob of cells, its still alive and its still human because thats all a human is. And I HAVE BEEN IN FOSTER CARE and its not even bad!!! And my brothers have been in numerous ones. They are good homes. Its not like a group home. Its loving and caring. Js.
@ShaniaBieber30 Okay, but it's still a parasitic organism. It's living off the mothers resources and can't live on it's own outside the womb. And yeah, implying -every- foster home is good. The ones around here are shit holes.
@Kortneiii Key word: "LIVING" off mothers resources. So what if it needs a little help its still alive. And honestly I would rather live the worst life in the world than not be able to live at all. People shouldnt assume that their children would rather be dead then live a bad life. And even if there is a 1% chance the child will live a good life then why take the risk of killing it when it could still have a good life. And youd have to be stupid to not know that sin means do something bad.
@ShaniaBieber30 "A little help" uh no, if you take a 4 week old baby out of the mothers womb it's going to croak, no doubt about it. Every choice the mother makes directly effects the child, i.e. fetal alcohol syndrome, etc. And really? Would you like to live in the slums of Africa being eaten by flies, having nothing to eat, and the list goes on. I doubt it, I really do. I know a "sin" means something bad, in the eyes of a christian. I'm not christian. So keep your rosary off my ovaries.
@Kortneiii So what? No matter how much help it needs its still alive and its still a human being. And acually I would rather be poor in Africa then dead because I value human life. And if youve never known anything better then being poor then youd be grateful for every little good thing that comes to you in life. And even if your not Christian, everyone knows that sin generally means doing something bad, unless your stupid. No matter what you wanna call it, its still murder.
@ShaniaBieber30 If abortion is murder, a blowjob is cannibalism and a miscarriage is homicide. Your point is invalid. You keep arguing the same points when they're just your individual ethical beliefs, which are completely subjective. If you don't like abortions, don't get one, but don't complain about other people having a different moral code. And just because starvin' Marvin in Africa only knows poverty, it doesn't mean his living conditions aren't shit terrible. Dealwithit.jpg
@Kortneiii That would only be true if you bit of the guys dick or if you forced the miscarriage. And there not "ethical beliefs" Its called MURDER! I dont care what you want to call it, when you kill human life even if its not intelligent to walk or talk yet, if you kill it then its called murder. And like I said before, a child should get the right to chose if they want to live in terrible conditions or die.
@ShaniaBieber30 Well no, you're saying something created by a sperm and an egg inside a woman as a human, ergo a sperm cell is part human, therefore swallowing is cannibalism. And homicide/manslaughter can be unintentional. Lrn2law. It is not murder, it's your belief that a fetus has human rights which is an ethical issue. A fetus can't choose if it wants to live or die, it doesn't have the intellectual capacity, and clearly neither do you.
@Kortneiii No Im saying after the sperm and the egg are together then it is a human. And then it grows until it is developed enough to live outside the womb. It might not be a completly developed human yet but it is still human. And because it is not yet intelligent enough to make that choice that is why im standing up for them. Because it will in a few years be smart enough to make that choice and I think it should have the right to make that choice even if people have to wait a few years.
@ShaniaBieber30 What difference does it make? Sperm cells are still living organisms, you shouldn't kill them! STOP THE BLOWJOBS, IT'S GENOCIDE.
On another note, speak for yourself, some women want abortions some don't, if you don't want one, don't get one, but don't ruin it for everyone else just because Jesus tells you it's wrong. Theology =/= Biology.
@Kortneiii and if it lives in a foster home it most likely will not have depression. Not one of my..... 6 foster home friends from the two ive been in were depressed. And they considered the foster parents moms and dads. Its NOT a bad life and theres LOTS of foster homes avalible. Trust me, I know, I could go in one right now if I asked my social worker, but at the moment im living with my grandparents which is supossed to be my "foster home." Children growing up in them have GOOD lives!
Just think about this. If this girls mother was raped and got pregnant with her but decided to get an abortion then she would have never been born she wouldn't have never gotten raped or had the choice to have an abortion. It doesn't matter how far along you are your taking away a chance for someone to live. Think about that when you decide whether or not abortion is right or wrong.
id hate to find out im alive because my dad raped my mother thus i was not wanted and my father was a disgusting piece of shit. I not being a religious person dont believe the entire soul at conception thing and i generally support abortion but only very early stages when there is physically no brain cells there for the embryo never had thought. At this stage those cells are life but in a similar way to those in your body just cells following a set o instructions no actual thought.
So what if Adoption places and Orphan places are packed. At least that baby gets to live. Its sad, because the baby doesnt get a choice. Even if their life isnt great at least they have one. And when they grow up they can find their own opertunities. Now a days you dont even have to give birth! You can scedule for a seasection. Yeah you might be scarred for life from being raped. But if it was me, murdering my own helpless child would scar me for life, so I wouldnt do it.
The radical feminists are absolutely anti-family and want sex to be viewed as simply a recreational activity. They detest motherhood and all that it stands for. They think fathers are useless. Children are inconveniences that must be tolerated in order to reproduce. These women use feminism as a way to justify their selfish behavior.
@twittermonz i'm sorry but i am very against abortions. It is a sin. Killing an unborn baby, who has not begun to see life yet, does not know, is completely unaware. It does not deserve to die for not doing anything! How would you like to not know about life, you just open your eyes and then you see death!? Yes it is very bad that the poor girl was raped, she had no choice. Poor her, and it sucks about what Sarah Pailen said, but there are other ways like giving that baby to adoption.
@twittermonz you'll never know who that person will be in life, a president, someone who could come up with a cure for cancer, an inspiration, someone very important! You should not kill a life because you will never know who they will be and how they will help the world.
@twittermonz I get it, I like to that myself. There is a secret to doing it the right way. First you must make it sound reasonable, second you have think in their terms. The easiest way to make it work is to figuratively turn common sense inside out. But never use profanity and use proper spelling and grammer. I do notice that you do use the "end-apology" technique. (I just coined that right now, there may be a better term for that already.)
When you're killing one human life, you're killing a baby, child, teenager, adult, possible parent, aunt, uncle, godparent, grandparent, and best friend. And you could've had a great president, doctor, actor, singer, etc. Plus you're killing that human being's future children, grandchildren, and so on. So basically you're preventing happiness and providing grief for the mother of the baby.
"What seems to be underlying the mandate is that they seem to be treating pregnancy as if it were a disease, but pregnancy is not a disease. Fertility is not a pathological condition to be suppressed by any means technically possible." On a side note the whole "your right to defend yourself ends at my nose" applies to this as well. You have a right to choice just so long as it doesnt conflict with another human being's right (in this case the right is life)
@KaelaCarver The girl (or woman) is a victim of abuse and/or rape. She becomes pregnant, because of this. Since the child would be a reminder of the trauma, it should be aborted prior to birth. I guess two wrongs make a right in this case.
@ShaniaBieber30 The psychological aspect of having to live as a pregnant teen would be extremely damaging, not to mention the fact that our orphanages are already PACKED and don't have the funds or the need for more children.
@Kortneiii Acually you can sign your baby up for adoption while its still in your womb and then as soon as its born it will go straight to a family and wont go to an orphanage. And even if it did go to an orphanage at least then it gets the choice on if it wants to live or not. Oh and no matter what if you get raped its gonna be psychologically damaging whether you have the baby or not. And you must be pretty selfish if youd rather kill your own child then be in pain for less than a year.
@ShaniaBieber30 You can, but the fact still remains that there are tens of thousands of orphaned children around the world, and why put another up for adoption if we can't take care of the ones we have? And imagine you were the product of a 14 year old mother and her rapist uncle, then left in an orphanage. I don't think you'd really want to live in all honesty. Also the damaging psychological effects of rape don't just last for as long as the woman is pregnant, they last a lifetime.
@Kortneiii Again, you can set it up while your pregnant that when the child is born they will go straight to a family and they would NOT have to go to an orphanage. And they could grow up thinking that their adopted parents are their real parents. They wouldnt have to meet their mother that had them at 14 or the rapist uncle and I would rather live the worst life then have to be dead. I wouldnt care how old my mother is or who my uncle is, it wouldnt matter.
@Kortneiii No matter what I would still want to live because I believe that life is precious and everyone should have the right to make that choice, encluding babies in the womb. And if your raped, no matter what the psychological effects would last a lifetime and if it were me, I think itd be much harder psychologically to live with the fact that i killed my own child. Why should that helpless innocent baby have to pay for a rapist crime? Why kill your child cause there MIGHT be a chance....
@Kortneiii Why kill your child because there MIGHT be a chance it will live a hard life. You cant tell the future. The baby could grow up to be the most successful person in the world. And your taking that away from it. Youd rather kill it for your own selfish reasons, cause your scared of being psycologically damaged for longer. Well its got nothing to do with you. Its about that helpless child that should get a choice to live or not. Dont you value human life?
@ShaniaBieber30 Might grow up to be Obama, might grow up to be Adolf, you can't tell the future either sweetcheeks. And it's not selfish to want an abortion, it's practical. If you don't have the means of taking care of a child or going through a pregnancy without being emotionally scarred for life, why should someone else force you to go through with it? I value human life, sure, but the "human life" inside a woman is technically a parasite leeching off her resources, ergo her body her choice.
@ReaperzBane Do you mean to say that when you were a fetus in your mother's womb, you were a parasite? Or does that designation only apply to those that are a product of rape?
@DeityofStuff No, I guess I don't understand why scrambling and vacuuming out unborn babies seems okay to some people. Why punish the children of criminals (such as the case with ^this^ girl? I am against the death penalty because I don't feel we should kill anyone. On a side note, the traditional Liberal viewpoint is pro-choice and anti-death penalty. Wait, what? It's okay to kill unborn babies, but not murderers? Mmm-hmm, yeah I think I'm happy on the conservative side.
I am sorry that many women have to go through rape. However, I believe that every child, even those who are conceived through sexual assault, deserve a chance at life. My reasoning? I was conceived from rape. My biological mother chose adoption over abortion. And I do not at all resent her for giving me up, but rather respect her more than anyone in the world for having the strength to give me life, then give me a good home. So please, choose adoption over abortion.
YES! We must stop Conservatives who seek to ensure that innocent babies live! Conservatives are inconsiderate assholes who care about the lives of unborn children and their rights!
WE MUST STOP THEM BEFORE MORE BABIES ARE ALLOWED TO LIVE!!!
@jackumonkey I say if you were raped then you should be able to have an abortion or if the child is a risk to your life. Otherwise I'm pro choice. Choose to keep ur fucking legs closed u whores. It's in her it will always be her choice? First of all it is a defenseless child not an it and that child comes out of a mans body as sperm and is fertilized and grows in the womans body. Second of all men get no choice if they want to keep their child.
@becrazybabyy no one said abortion would make her forget. that is a strawman. of course she is thinking of herself. she is a victim and her only objective at this point is to survive her horror. and no getting pregnant doesnt mean someone should be a mother. pregnancy is a biological response that cant always be controlled. she has a right to control her fertility and thereby her destiny. no child deserves to be treated as a punishment
And then I had an abortion, regretted it, got depressed, ended up with breast cancer, and died without the LORD. Abortions never worth the side effects.
@44SCB good golly!! how do you kow she isnt a christian? and not everyone regrets aborting and from the looks of it, she is already depressed. and abortion doesnt increase risk of breast cancer. that has been refuted so many times.
@44SCB she has NOTHING TO repent for pertaining to her rape. she survived. that is all that is important and she did the best she could. she was a victim and is now a survivor speaking out to prevent a further assault on her character and humanity. i applaud her and al others who stand up to the tyrrany you espouse
@44SCB according to you and your own dogma. do you really think she considered that pregnancy to be "hers"? and an early term embryo is not the same thing. she is a hero for making such a difficult choice
@leiapeison Earlt embryos aren't human just like people of different races arent human. If they really arent human then when do they becaome human and what deffines a human? The Bible or what u call dogma is allways correct. The baby is not hers its is a human of its own.
@44SCB it doesnt matter if the bible is always correct. a free and democratic society doesnt base laws on religion. your motivation has nothing to do with compassion or reason. it is all about theocratic ideas. she was a victim once. she will not be a victim of another person who just wants to control her
@leiapeison I am a believer in everyones civil rights. Where I draw the line is when 1 persons rights violates anothers. The government should also not base laws on science. So I believe in the rights and freedoms of the unborn. Just like I believe in the rights and freedoms of blacks and women. Jesus said that who has not sinned may cast the 1st stone indicating that u should be free 2 live imoral wile as long as u don't have the right 2 hurt others. All governments should follow this.
well ask how many slaves want to die.. at least let them make the choice
why not do it thus: let the baby live for 10 years and say" should I have killed you," no one ever regrets being born.. this is a useless imperialist argument where those in power presume their choices are better for the oppressed..
I did not chose 4 my mother 2 get raped. But Obama doesn't want me 2 have the right 2 live even though it was given by GOD. I had no choice but 2 be killed. I'm just another victim of the infant holocaust. CHRISTIAN OR NOT GOD ALWAYS GETS THE FINAL WORD.
Proof of ignorance on the Pro-Choice side: "In its 1859 Report on Criminal Abortion, the American Medical Association (AMA) understood that "the independent and actual existence of the child before birth as a living being" was a scientific truth. Nothing has changed since that time. For the past 150 years doctors have known that life begins at conception."
So, I guess that pretty much proves that everyone that thinks "A fetus isn't alive." is bullshitting themselves. :D
A kind aborter? Why sure. I mean, it's not like it makes you a bad human being to kill what is a living creature that's done nothing to you. So yes, you're a kind aborter. The kindest, most humane person I ever did meet. I've derived a great pleasure from this discussion. Thank you for taking the time to talk to me. :D
everyone check out the national network of abortion funds. they help low income women obtain abortion care. you can specify in your donation that rape victims get the money before anyone else does
@BlizzardDust It will turn out to be Unloved anyway! Would you rather be not born at all, and I guess go to heaven or whatever, or go through a miserable, unloved life?
Well, I don't know if you've heard about it. But since you seem like a nice person I'll let you in on the secret anyways. There's this thing... called adoption. Ever heard of it?
lollersbbq. Hey there! I dunno if you know this, but A.) The chances of a woman dying giving birth have gone down significantly since we got this amazing stuff called technology. But let's not forget B.) The fact that, with the exception of rape victims, any girl who gets pregnant made the choice to spread their legs. If they wanna have sex, they should grow-up and deal with the consequences without killing a baby. After all, abortion isn't birth control. Am I right or am I right? :D
@BlizzardDust I've got 1 problem. I wouldn't consider the fetus to be human unless its 5 months old. It's basically just an egg cell and sperm cell together at the first weeks. It's like ejaculating, you kill your own sperm cells which would've become your baby.
Besides, its a woman's choice. Unless you're a sexist...
@Bananawawa exactly!! forced parenthood isnt pro life. not every conception is supposed to result in birth. irresponsible pro creation is why the world is messed up in the first place
@Bananawawa i most certainly will. and if you would like to help girls like this and other women, check out the national network of abortion funds. they help raise money for low income women to obtain abortion care
Abortion isn't a Right, it's a privilege. As to which values elicit the privilege to use tax dollars is up for debate. I've heard women claim that they're tired of being pregnant, hence they want an abortion and I will never support that. Instead of learning to defend themselves, they'll go through costly procedures. Teaching society that "getting rape is wrong" instead of "rape is wrong" is beyond my comprehension. Seriously, people need to educate themselves and toughen up.
Rape is bad. Murder is even worse. Whose choice is it? The baby gets no choice here. This raped girl should relate to the baby, as she should know what it's like not to have a choice.
@JoshVlogs Well, A child could either not be born at all, or be born into a family that can't support it and won't love it?
Also, it's a freaking CLUMP OF CELLS that has the POTENTIAL to become a human. Drinking and Smoking also kills cells. Why not ban that? A woman has the right to do whatever she wants with her body, just like a man does too. THINK FIRST BEFORE YOU START SPEWING THAT CRAP.
"Well, a child could either not be born at all, or be born into a family that can't support it and won't love it." Hey, you seem pretty intelligent, so why didn't this magical thing called adoption occur to you?
Take a minute to think what it would be like for someone to rip your limbs off from your body and/or crush your head, as you struggle, helplessly. Yeah, WOMEN are given the choice. But what about the baby who is a completely new human being and individual. what about their choice??? It seems ignorant Pro-Choicers are all about themselves and like to take the easy way out of thing without dealing with their consequences. PRO-CHOICE THIS!
the baby before the point of no return having an under developed brain, a nervous system consisting of random bouts of twitching, and a weak bone structure isn't really capable of feeling a lot of pain let alone produce any real intelligent thought, but hey when its your time it's your time life is a privilege not a right.
@sbneverdies Do some research. The doctor doesn't mangle the fetus, and it feels no pain because clincs won't preform abortions beyond 20 weeks, which is when the fetus actually begins to feel pain. And did you even WATCH this? She was RAPED. She wasn't irresponsible and got pregnant by a boyfriend, she was RAPED. Is that fair to make her feel MORE pain?
@peaceandrosegirl No, but it's not the baby's fault, either. Give the baby up for adoption, for goodness sake! Have YOU ever had an abortion? How do YOU know so much? Abortion leaves emotional scars on women FOREVER. There's different TYPES of abortions, too. The baby can feel pain. I'm crying right now, it makes me so sad. It's KILLING a human being!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And this girl's an actress, anyways.
@ilikecats40111 No, I haven't had an abortion, but have YOU ever had to give a baby up for adoption? I imagine it's very VERY hard, and if a woman is raped, carrying the baby of someone she hates and giving birth to it will be hard enough, so you think she should be forced to give it away to?? What if she keeps it but is unable to give him or her proper living standards? And what if she CAN'T find parents? Then the baby will go to foster care, where it will likely never been adopted and more
@peaceandrosegirl I think it would be harder to take a life than give the baby a chance to live. There's PLENTY of people that are DYING to have a baby when they can't have one biologically.
@ilikecats40111 Our orphanages and foster homes are overflowing with children not to mention the overpopulation issues in china due to the one child rule. If a family is really -DYING- to have a baby and can't find one close to them I doubt they would have any issue adopting from China or even a third world country.
@peaceandrosegirl There is a movie called "Blood Money" I think you'd enjoy. Abortionist actually tell you some of their experiences with various patients. It's a really good research source...you get it from THE source. And as bad as RAPE is MURDER is worse...it's why we don't hand out death/life sentences to rapists and only to murderers
the question of abortion is "what is being destroyed"?. the answer simply is a human being with 100% human genetic composition (the same as yourself). a homo sapien, an already existing human organism..
though a womans right to 'privacy' is important, in a moral society, all rights are NOT equal.. the right to be born, isnt it more fundamental than privacy?. ..
sarah Pailin is stopping a human being from being destroyed.. cant you see that.. i really dont get u guys
@aarespo . you mention that the fetus isnt suffering.. again that is not the question.. I can kill you without causing any pain, but I shouldnt only because you are the same species as myself, a homossapien and thus with equal natural dignity compared to mine....
"its only a blob of cells".. yes and so are we.. homosapien cell blobs, tissues, potentials, genetic compositions..please let us wake up to the injustice where humans are robbed their lives
Even though i do belivie the choice should be open for rape and most cases of incest. I think that it should not be open for all and I am open for a respectful responce. Honestly I think that the choice shouldn't be open to married woman who weren't careful enough with birth control or being safe.
So for all of you that say that only 1% are getting raped and pregnant as an argument. What are you really saying? That the 1% doesn`t matter? That they are irrelevant to this case and it is just bad fate on their hands? How dare you, you selfless pigs.
I'm black, did my ancestors have a say in gaining there freedom? Is anyone going to say otherwise? Yeah, whites had a choice to either help my ancestors, or keep them as slaves. They battled over what was right in there minds, just like the slaves that were involved. WOMEN ARE NOT THE ONLY ONES WHO SHOULD HAVE A SAY. Everyone has a right to speak out and say what is right. Most women who are raped regret abortions. This bull right here is WRONG. You're murdering people, that's all I have to say.
@rockrunner2012 So, others should have a say in what a woman does with her body? So, if I decide to have an abortion I should ask others if it's ok? Thats foolish. That way of thinking is going to set women back 200 years
How can somebody pray for their own health if they go out and kill their own kid? Rape is the argument the abortionist will use to make abortion legal, but everybody knows the truth here.
tisoy909 4 days ago
What is this girls' name?
Charlenejl 1 week ago
I believe that abortion is okay under some conditions.
1. If the person is in the same situation as the girl in the video.
2. If the person carrying the baby is 16 or younger.
Otherwise, either you should have been more careful or you shouldn't have had sex. The end.
MsMonkeyBean 1 week ago
@MsMonkeyBean you forgot about situations in which a woman's health is at increased risk from carrying a baby
I once met a woman who was essentially forced to abort at 24 weeks, because having the child would have killed her. She was absolutely devastated :(
sacraficialangel7 6 days ago
I support abortion for 2 reasons:
1: You cannot tell a grown woman what to do with her body
2: I would rather see a woman get an abortion in a sterile, clean doctors office with the latest state of the art surgical technology as compared to getting an abortion in a bacteria filled alley way by a black market doctor with a clothes hanger.
62cky4powerthirst 2 weeks ago 4
Anyone who says most abortions are due to rape are just trying to justify mass murder.....At the end of the day as those mostly on the left,kill their future.............We raise our children,and in a representative democracy that makes all the difference in the world.... We will being seeing you at the ballot box. I just registered my 4th son as a Republican,with 3 to go... :)
ClarksonsinUSA 2 weeks ago
Rape or without rape, a woman has and should always have the FULL RIGHT OVER HER BODY. People who disagree with abortions are fukn pathetic and sucks der mommy didnt abort them.
rastachicabonita 1 month ago 2
ok as much as i do not believe in abortion i do agree that if u get pregnant by rape or incest then u shuld have the choice but most abortions are not done becuz of rape or incest and i believe that is where abortion should be illegal
sandee12341 1 month ago 2
To the idiot below me, she didn't create the life the rapist forced it on her just saying. Also it ain't killing unless it could survive if she were to go into labor.
sjkobold 1 month ago 2
@floridatom1964 Then why not kill all the criminals in the jails and the mentally ill that've been born? I mean, if you're okay with killing them as embryos, then why not as grown people? Oh, and how about those who suffer too? So they won't suffer. And oh! We should kill the poor too! That way they won't have to starve (and we won't have to feed them). And then the middle class! Because fuck those bastards. And then the rich! And then everyone else! Because mankind sucks.
SuburbiaSurvivor 2 months ago
@floridatom1964 There's no "criminal" gene. And if there was, we'd all have it, since we all have the capability for brutality. A statement proven by your willingness to "stick a screwdriver up there and scramble its brain!".
With your logic, we should kill every person who is related to someone who has committed a crime.
SuburbiaSurvivor 3 months ago
@floridatom1964 " What woman in her right mind would want to keep an criminally insane child?"
That's not how DNA and psychology works. A child's psychologic identity does not come from its DNA but by many diverse factors. Such as guardian/parents and environment etc. Criminally Insane kids often are the result of abusive parents.
SuburbiaSurvivor 3 months ago
@floridatom1964 "no one chooses to be raped! keep it legal!" As horrible as rape is, it only results in pregnancies 0.2% of the time.
And why should the child be punished for the sins of the Father? It's not like the kid forced his Dad to rape his mother while he was a sperm.
SuburbiaSurvivor 3 months ago
1) Pregnancies resulting from rape are about 1-2 out of 1,000 rapes. That's only about 0.2 percent. Also, do two wrongs make a right? The child did not force his father to rape his mother.
2) Over-population is a myth.
3) Even if a kid would grow up in bad conditions. It still deserves the right to try and make a life for itself. Steve Jobs was adopted, yet he made it big. Everyone deserves a chance.
4) Women have the right to choose to not have sex. No one is forcing women to get pregnant.
SuburbiaSurvivor 3 months ago
Outlawing abourtion will only cost more emotional instability for women and force them to raise a child in an unstable enviornment. Not to mention more tax money is going towards foodstamps and welfare for someone that doesnt even want to have that child in the first place.
Dariyn21 3 months ago
And you know what's funny also... How these anti-choice people stop giving a crap about the kid once it's here. Even if the moms raped they object to her getting an abortion yet, if she later needed welfare or foodstamps to take care of the kid (which wasn't her own choice to have) they don't wanna help her....also if you're not a vegetarian, are a female and have had a period, and are not having sex right this moment and call yourself pro-life you're a hypocrite.
trackgirl2187 3 months ago
@trackgirl2187 Exactly, enjoy being a mom at 13 living in sub standard housing with food stamps if you decide to keep it, and college? Forget about that shit, you're a mom now.
Adoption? What about the starving orphans in africa or the millions of parent-less chinese babies from the "one child" law? Might want to adopt those ones before you go creating more.
Fuckin' Christians don't get this shit.
Kortneiii 3 months ago
Well if I wasn't alive enough to have a birthday I wasn't alive enough to be a human being yet
trackgirl2187 3 months ago
If I were the prime minister or president or ruler of a country I still wouldnt make people go to prison for having an abortion, all Im saying is I believe nobody should be getting one and that I would never get one.
ShaniaBieber30 3 months ago
Also all you saying that a rape victim has to keep the baby is just justifying what the rapist did...and besides what if this girl was like ten... I bet you'd still expect her to have it
trackgirl2187 3 months ago 2
@trackgirl2187 In the case of rape? Do two wrongs make a right? The baby did nothing. The rapist should be punished, not the baby. Besides, pregnancies that result from rape are so few they're hardly relevant to the case of abortion.
SuburbiaSurvivor 2 months ago
@SuburbiaSurvivor the baby will end up suffering either when being raised by an incompetent teen and learn what pain the mother went through, and will make them wonder since their daddy was such a sick bastard it'll make them always question themselves, and as for as non rape cases, would you rather the baby end up like Caylee Anthony whose parent did not want her
trackgirl2187 2 months ago
@trackgirl2187 *Sigh*
A) You do not know that it will suffer. You just assume that it will.
B) We ALL experience suffering in life. If killing a baby is justifiable because it is suffering, then why not kill all people who are currently suffering, poor, or otherwise not experiencing the quality of life we are used to?
C) Even if it will inevitably suffer, it still deserves the right to live it's life and face that suffering. Not be killed because "It'll just suffer anyway".
SuburbiaSurvivor 2 months ago
@SuburbiaSurvivor if fetuses are soo alive then why aren't the dates of conception counted as birthdays and why aren't they apart of the population count
trackgirl2187 2 months ago
@trackgirl2187 Probably because it's a lot harder to to pinpoint the actual date of a conception. Also it's called a "birthday" not a conception day. Back when the term "birthday" came about there was no way of knowing when a baby was conceived.
If it isn't alive, what is it then? Dead?
SuburbiaSurvivor 2 months ago
@SuburbiaSurvivor a fetus can't survive before a certain time without being a bit of a parasite to the mom so no it really isn't
trackgirl2187 2 months ago
@trackgirl2187 1) For a fetus to be a parasite it would have to be a separate and invading species. So no, the only way for it to be even slightly parasitic would be for it to be a separate species. 2) A born infant can not survive on its own either. So guess infants aren't alive either, huh? 3) The only way for a fetus to not be alive would for it to be dead. But it's not dead, if it was dead, it wouldn't be growing and moving.
SuburbiaSurvivor 2 months ago
@SuburbiaSurvivor just as you can't assume to know every pro choice person....and if abortions were outlawed do you seriously think they'd stop
trackgirl2187 2 months ago
@trackgirl2187 I don't assume to know every Pro-Choice person. That's ridiculous. And would they all stop? At first, probably not. But a large portion of them would stop . Along with ending abortion other steps should be made for giving aid to pregnant single mothers, especially young mothers. The less the fetus is dehumanized the less people are going to see abortion as a just option.
SuburbiaSurvivor 2 months ago
@SuburbiaSurvivor your logic is flawed but I must say what about the choice of the women...forcing her to have a kid she doesn't want...and what's so funny about you anti- choice is that you force the woman to have the kid and if later she needs financial help you'll be the first to turn her down
trackgirl2187 2 months ago
@trackgirl2187 A) How is my logic flawed? B) She chose to have sex, that's not the child's fault. C) Anti-Choice? Sure. I'm also Anti-Choice when it comes to someone having the right to come into your room and shoot you in cold blood. D) Totally and completely false. There are hundreds of organization that are also Pro-Life created to give financial aid to single moms. Also, you can't assume to know every Pro-Life person. Although some may refuse to give care, many others will.
SuburbiaSurvivor 2 months ago
@SuburbiaSurvivor if women want abortions they are gonna get them....it would be much wiser to have it legal and for women to not be having back alley coat hanger terminations
trackgirl2187 2 months ago
@trackgirl2187 Just like if someone wants to murder someone else they're gonna do it. Doesn't mean we should legalize it and make it safe for the murderer.
Coat Hanger Terminations are old-fashioned. If they sought out illegal abortions at all they'd probably research modern methods.
The most effective way to make abortion rare is to make it illegal!
Also, I don't believe women should be heavily prosecuted for giving abortions, but the abortion doctors should since they are the real murderers
SuburbiaSurvivor 2 months ago
@SuburbiaSurvivor that would be sticking up for someone living rather than a fetus....again I must wonder why anti abortion people are so against womens rights to their own body
trackgirl2187 2 months ago 3
@trackgirl2187 A fetus is living. And for the love of all that is good in life, we are NOT AGAINST A WOMAN'S RIGHT TO HER OWN BODY. She can do whatever she wants! Get a tattoo! Dye her hair! Vote! Marry a midget! Be a lesbian! Protest! Get a job! Get a zillion piercings! Have sex whenever she wants, BUT, when she creates a human life, her killing that human life is robbing another human of it's right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. And that is overstepping her own rights.
SuburbiaSurvivor 2 months ago
@SuburbiaSurvivor maybe you.dont get that you cant force your beliefs on other people I dont myself believe in abortion but I cant force anyone else to believe what I do....and yes women still would find ways.to abort if it.was illegal....you cant force your beliefs on others
trackgirl2187 2 months ago
@trackgirl2187 I'm glad you don't believe in abortion.
However, if someone had a gun to your head, and they believed they should have the right to pull the trigger and kill you, and I had the ability to stop him, should I? I don't believe the gun man should be able to kill you, but that's only my belief. By saving you, I would be forcing my beliefs on the gun man. So is it right to stop the gun man?
SuburbiaSurvivor 2 months ago 2
My body my choice. Woman should not be made incubators just because you think something that doesn't even have the capacity to think for itself should have an opinion on whether it lives or dies.
Also there is no God.
Kortneiii 3 months ago
If life begins at conception then why don't we have birthdays until the actual day we are born, you pro lifers answer that for me.
trackgirl2187 3 months ago 2
@trackgirl2187 because we dont know the exact date of conception and the word birthday has the word birth in it meaning the day you were born. Its not meant to be the day you got the first bit of life, its meant to be the day your mother gave birth to you.
ShaniaBieber30 3 months ago
...
So...I'm pro-choice.
Anybody wanna argue with me?
golddustrapedmydad 3 months ago
I challenge anyone who is pro-choice to explain to me why it is right. Message me.
Eterna1snow 3 months ago
What is worse, muder or rape? To me, its murder. And people are commiting murder to their children because the fathers stupid choses. Because aparently when someone commits a sin against you, your supossed to ciommit a bigger sin on your helpless baby? I hate knowing that people acually think like that in this world.
ShaniaBieber30 3 months ago
@ShaniaBieber30
"your suppossed to ciommit a bigger sin on your helpless baby"
Keep your theology out of my biology.
Kortneiii 3 months ago
Unfortunately America is now a country where people think it's okay to NOT carry your baby for nine months. What happened to adoption? Hello? That baby deserves life. And you deserve peace of mind from your rape. A baby isn't a consequence of an unexpected pregnancy. Stop treating babies like they are consequences. What scares me more than rape? The fact that I live in a country where mothers would choose to kill a baby. Adoption. Parenting. It is never okay to kill (as she admits is) a baby.
GoingGagaGurl 3 months ago
Poor girl....
Pro-choice!
3sim159 3 months ago
Some people are so frigen selfish. They want to commit murder just because somebody else commited the crime of rape. Is it the babies fault that its father is a rapist? No. And some mothers would rather kill their child then have to go through labour. Labour and pregnacy only last 9 months. Killing a human being last forever.
ShaniaBieber30 3 months ago
@ShaniaBieber30 So does the emotional trauma of rape. Clearly you're too immature to have a clear understanding of what you're trying to argue. Go listen to more Bieber and have a slumber party with your friends.
Kortneiii 3 months ago
@Kortneiii Yeah the emotional trama of rape is gonna last forever whether you have the baby or not. Im not saying raise the baby just let it have the choice to live. And Im obvouisly more mature then you, Im stating good points on why Im pro life, while your getting frustrated and making fun of me to try and make me frustrated. Which honestly is not a mature way to handle things. Im only saying that in my opinion people should put their children needs (to live for instance) above their own needs
ShaniaBieber30 3 months ago
@ShaniaBieber30 If you were mature, you'd respect that different people have different needs, and no woman should be forced to carry a fetus for 9 months if she doesn't want to. I'm not getting frustrated, I'm simply telling you that you don't have the capacity to understand the lasting effect having a rape baby would have on a person. Your username just reinforces my point. I bet you one forced pregnancy that you're secretly pro-choice. ;)
Kortneiii 3 months ago
@Kortneiii I am mature its just kind of hard to respect that different people like murdering their own children. I just dont think that its right and I try to change peoples minds about it because I feel sorry for the helpless babies. And acually yes I do have the capacity to understand the lasting effect of having a rape baby and I understand that it would be an absolutly horrifying exsperience but I think killing your own child is a much more horrifying thing and acually if I were raped I -
ShaniaBieber30 3 months ago
@Kortneiii I would have the baby because I would put my child above myself and I wouldnt want to punish it for its fathers mistakes. I sincerly hope I dont get put in a situation like that but if i am then i would at least let the baby survive even if i didnt choose to keep it. And just because I like Justin Bieber, doesnt mean Im some 10 year old, alot of older teenagers like him too so dont judge me on who i like.
ShaniaBieber30 3 months ago
@Kortneiii Also about your comment 2 days ago that i never saw until now, why would you take that risk. Could be the smartest person alive, could have a terrible life, could be normal, whatever happens at least it can live. Why kill it when there is still a high chance that it will have a fairly decent life? And when a baby is inside of the womb its still a human, a baby, it still has life, it should have the same rights as anybody else in the world.
ShaniaBieber30 3 months ago
@ShaniaBieber30 Where are you getting this information? LOL. There isn't a "high chance that it will have a -fairly decent- life", and what justifies "fairly decent" because I'm sure living in a foster home with depression sounds just great. If you think a parasitic organism that is living off a woman deserves it's own rights, I guess you believe in tapeworm rights too.
Kortneiii 3 months ago
@Kortneiii Its not just a "parasitic organism" It is a BABY! It doesnt take long for its heart to start beating and its brain to start functioning and for it to start feeling. And even though it cant do anything at first and its equal to a blob of cells, its still alive and its still human because thats all a human is. And I HAVE BEEN IN FOSTER CARE and its not even bad!!! And my brothers have been in numerous ones. They are good homes. Its not like a group home. Its loving and caring. Js.
ShaniaBieber30 3 months ago
@ShaniaBieber30 Okay, but it's still a parasitic organism. It's living off the mothers resources and can't live on it's own outside the womb. And yeah, implying -every- foster home is good. The ones around here are shit holes.
Kortneiii 3 months ago
@Kortneiii Key word: "LIVING" off mothers resources. So what if it needs a little help its still alive. And honestly I would rather live the worst life in the world than not be able to live at all. People shouldnt assume that their children would rather be dead then live a bad life. And even if there is a 1% chance the child will live a good life then why take the risk of killing it when it could still have a good life. And youd have to be stupid to not know that sin means do something bad.
ShaniaBieber30 3 months ago
@ShaniaBieber30 What are you, like, 11?
BRIANNAistalksick 3 months ago
@BRIANNAistalksick Acually Im 16. And what are you, 6?
ShaniaBieber30 3 months ago
@ShaniaBieber30 "A little help" uh no, if you take a 4 week old baby out of the mothers womb it's going to croak, no doubt about it. Every choice the mother makes directly effects the child, i.e. fetal alcohol syndrome, etc. And really? Would you like to live in the slums of Africa being eaten by flies, having nothing to eat, and the list goes on. I doubt it, I really do. I know a "sin" means something bad, in the eyes of a christian. I'm not christian. So keep your rosary off my ovaries.
Kortneiii 3 months ago
@Kortneiii So what? No matter how much help it needs its still alive and its still a human being. And acually I would rather be poor in Africa then dead because I value human life. And if youve never known anything better then being poor then youd be grateful for every little good thing that comes to you in life. And even if your not Christian, everyone knows that sin generally means doing something bad, unless your stupid. No matter what you wanna call it, its still murder.
ShaniaBieber30 3 months ago
@ShaniaBieber30 If abortion is murder, a blowjob is cannibalism and a miscarriage is homicide. Your point is invalid. You keep arguing the same points when they're just your individual ethical beliefs, which are completely subjective. If you don't like abortions, don't get one, but don't complain about other people having a different moral code. And just because starvin' Marvin in Africa only knows poverty, it doesn't mean his living conditions aren't shit terrible. Dealwithit.jpg
Kortneiii 3 months ago
@Kortneiii That would only be true if you bit of the guys dick or if you forced the miscarriage. And there not "ethical beliefs" Its called MURDER! I dont care what you want to call it, when you kill human life even if its not intelligent to walk or talk yet, if you kill it then its called murder. And like I said before, a child should get the right to chose if they want to live in terrible conditions or die.
ShaniaBieber30 3 months ago
@ShaniaBieber30 Well no, you're saying something created by a sperm and an egg inside a woman as a human, ergo a sperm cell is part human, therefore swallowing is cannibalism. And homicide/manslaughter can be unintentional. Lrn2law. It is not murder, it's your belief that a fetus has human rights which is an ethical issue. A fetus can't choose if it wants to live or die, it doesn't have the intellectual capacity, and clearly neither do you.
Kortneiii 3 months ago
@Kortneiii No Im saying after the sperm and the egg are together then it is a human. And then it grows until it is developed enough to live outside the womb. It might not be a completly developed human yet but it is still human. And because it is not yet intelligent enough to make that choice that is why im standing up for them. Because it will in a few years be smart enough to make that choice and I think it should have the right to make that choice even if people have to wait a few years.
ShaniaBieber30 3 months ago
@ShaniaBieber30 What difference does it make? Sperm cells are still living organisms, you shouldn't kill them! STOP THE BLOWJOBS, IT'S GENOCIDE.
On another note, speak for yourself, some women want abortions some don't, if you don't want one, don't get one, but don't ruin it for everyone else just because Jesus tells you it's wrong. Theology =/= Biology.
Kortneiii 3 months ago
@Kortneiii and if it lives in a foster home it most likely will not have depression. Not one of my..... 6 foster home friends from the two ive been in were depressed. And they considered the foster parents moms and dads. Its NOT a bad life and theres LOTS of foster homes avalible. Trust me, I know, I could go in one right now if I asked my social worker, but at the moment im living with my grandparents which is supossed to be my "foster home." Children growing up in them have GOOD lives!
ShaniaBieber30 3 months ago
by the way this girl isn't an actress
bocachica27 4 months ago
Actress
Bootscoot33 4 months ago
Just think about this. If this girls mother was raped and got pregnant with her but decided to get an abortion then she would have never been born she wouldn't have never gotten raped or had the choice to have an abortion. It doesn't matter how far along you are your taking away a chance for someone to live. Think about that when you decide whether or not abortion is right or wrong.
stdalejr 4 months ago
id hate to find out im alive because my dad raped my mother thus i was not wanted and my father was a disgusting piece of shit. I not being a religious person dont believe the entire soul at conception thing and i generally support abortion but only very early stages when there is physically no brain cells there for the embryo never had thought. At this stage those cells are life but in a similar way to those in your body just cells following a set o instructions no actual thought.
jimmyjimjim4567 4 months ago
abortionists use the most extreme case: rape
Abortion clinics kills human fetuses for any reason... not only rape.
fundieangel 4 months ago
So what if Adoption places and Orphan places are packed. At least that baby gets to live. Its sad, because the baby doesnt get a choice. Even if their life isnt great at least they have one. And when they grow up they can find their own opertunities. Now a days you dont even have to give birth! You can scedule for a seasection. Yeah you might be scarred for life from being raped. But if it was me, murdering my own helpless child would scar me for life, so I wouldnt do it.
ShaniaBieber30 5 months ago
poor babies :( if my gf was raped i'll take care of the baby
SupremeARA915 5 months ago
The radical feminists are absolutely anti-family and want sex to be viewed as simply a recreational activity. They detest motherhood and all that it stands for. They think fathers are useless. Children are inconveniences that must be tolerated in order to reproduce. These women use feminism as a way to justify their selfish behavior.
PleaseReadmyLips 5 months ago
yes yes !! kill the baby!!!!! kill the baby! kill it now!! KILL IT NOW!!! LORD CAZR COMMANDS YOu!! KILL THE BABY NOW!!! oh sorry...... i mean fetus.
twittermonz 5 months ago
@twittermonz i'm sorry but i am very against abortions. It is a sin. Killing an unborn baby, who has not begun to see life yet, does not know, is completely unaware. It does not deserve to die for not doing anything! How would you like to not know about life, you just open your eyes and then you see death!? Yes it is very bad that the poor girl was raped, she had no choice. Poor her, and it sucks about what Sarah Pailen said, but there are other ways like giving that baby to adoption.
Vampire13Luver 5 months ago
@twittermonz but not kill an innocent unborn life! "Thou shalt not kill"!!
Vampire13Luver 5 months ago
@twittermonz you'll never know who that person will be in life, a president, someone who could come up with a cure for cancer, an inspiration, someone very important! You should not kill a life because you will never know who they will be and how they will help the world.
Vampire13Luver 5 months ago
@Vampire13Luver lol im pro- life i was making a joke
twittermonz 5 months ago
@twittermonz oh.... ok, uh my bad then.
Vampire13Luver 5 months ago
@twittermonz I get it, I like to that myself. There is a secret to doing it the right way. First you must make it sound reasonable, second you have think in their terms. The easiest way to make it work is to figuratively turn common sense inside out. But never use profanity and use proper spelling and grammer. I do notice that you do use the "end-apology" technique. (I just coined that right now, there may be a better term for that already.)
tenhirankei 4 months ago
When you're killing one human life, you're killing a baby, child, teenager, adult, possible parent, aunt, uncle, godparent, grandparent, and best friend. And you could've had a great president, doctor, actor, singer, etc. Plus you're killing that human being's future children, grandchildren, and so on. So basically you're preventing happiness and providing grief for the mother of the baby.
ilikecats40111 5 months ago
"What seems to be underlying the mandate is that they seem to be treating pregnancy as if it were a disease, but pregnancy is not a disease. Fertility is not a pathological condition to be suppressed by any means technically possible." On a side note the whole "your right to defend yourself ends at my nose" applies to this as well. You have a right to choice just so long as it doesnt conflict with another human being's right (in this case the right is life)
ataraxy729 5 months ago
Why don't you give the kid up for adoption?
ShaniaBieber30 5 months ago
@ShaniaBieber30 - Why should another person dictate whether a victim of extreme abuse and trauma gives birth to her attacker's baby or not?
KaelaCarver 5 months ago
@KaelaCarver The girl (or woman) is a victim of abuse and/or rape. She becomes pregnant, because of this. Since the child would be a reminder of the trauma, it should be aborted prior to birth. I guess two wrongs make a right in this case.
tenhirankei 4 months ago
@ShaniaBieber30 The psychological aspect of having to live as a pregnant teen would be extremely damaging, not to mention the fact that our orphanages are already PACKED and don't have the funds or the need for more children.
Kortneiii 5 months ago
@Kortneiii Acually you can sign your baby up for adoption while its still in your womb and then as soon as its born it will go straight to a family and wont go to an orphanage. And even if it did go to an orphanage at least then it gets the choice on if it wants to live or not. Oh and no matter what if you get raped its gonna be psychologically damaging whether you have the baby or not. And you must be pretty selfish if youd rather kill your own child then be in pain for less than a year.
ShaniaBieber30 4 months ago
@ShaniaBieber30 You can, but the fact still remains that there are tens of thousands of orphaned children around the world, and why put another up for adoption if we can't take care of the ones we have? And imagine you were the product of a 14 year old mother and her rapist uncle, then left in an orphanage. I don't think you'd really want to live in all honesty. Also the damaging psychological effects of rape don't just last for as long as the woman is pregnant, they last a lifetime.
Kortneiii 3 months ago
@Kortneiii Again, you can set it up while your pregnant that when the child is born they will go straight to a family and they would NOT have to go to an orphanage. And they could grow up thinking that their adopted parents are their real parents. They wouldnt have to meet their mother that had them at 14 or the rapist uncle and I would rather live the worst life then have to be dead. I wouldnt care how old my mother is or who my uncle is, it wouldnt matter.
ShaniaBieber30 3 months ago
@Kortneiii No matter what I would still want to live because I believe that life is precious and everyone should have the right to make that choice, encluding babies in the womb. And if your raped, no matter what the psychological effects would last a lifetime and if it were me, I think itd be much harder psychologically to live with the fact that i killed my own child. Why should that helpless innocent baby have to pay for a rapist crime? Why kill your child cause there MIGHT be a chance....
ShaniaBieber30 3 months ago
@Kortneiii Why kill your child because there MIGHT be a chance it will live a hard life. You cant tell the future. The baby could grow up to be the most successful person in the world. And your taking that away from it. Youd rather kill it for your own selfish reasons, cause your scared of being psycologically damaged for longer. Well its got nothing to do with you. Its about that helpless child that should get a choice to live or not. Dont you value human life?
ShaniaBieber30 3 months ago
@ShaniaBieber30 Might grow up to be Obama, might grow up to be Adolf, you can't tell the future either sweetcheeks. And it's not selfish to want an abortion, it's practical. If you don't have the means of taking care of a child or going through a pregnancy without being emotionally scarred for life, why should someone else force you to go through with it? I value human life, sure, but the "human life" inside a woman is technically a parasite leeching off her resources, ergo her body her choice.
Kortneiii 3 months ago
@DeityofStuff Yes what about it. The embryo has a body. Shouldn't it have that right.
44SCB 6 months ago
When a girl is raped, she is not given a choice. When the fetus is aborted, it is not given a choice. This is pro-choice?
tenhirankei 6 months ago 2
@tenhirankei It can not choose, as it is not a human, it is a parasite.
ReaperzBane 4 months ago
@ReaperzBane Do you mean to say that when you were a fetus in your mother's womb, you were a parasite? Or does that designation only apply to those that are a product of rape?
tenhirankei 4 months ago
YOU GO GIRLLL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Snowflakechica123 6 months ago
Has the life actually done anything to you, may I ask?
LeftHandCookie 6 months ago
@DeityofStuff No, I guess I don't understand why scrambling and vacuuming out unborn babies seems okay to some people. Why punish the children of criminals (such as the case with ^this^ girl? I am against the death penalty because I don't feel we should kill anyone. On a side note, the traditional Liberal viewpoint is pro-choice and anti-death penalty. Wait, what? It's okay to kill unborn babies, but not murderers? Mmm-hmm, yeah I think I'm happy on the conservative side.
departed402 6 months ago
@departed402 Woo hoo! (:
ilikecats40111 5 months ago
this video make me happy that im not white
whoever made this relay hates kids and life
InternetVideos2010 6 months ago
I am sorry that many women have to go through rape. However, I believe that every child, even those who are conceived through sexual assault, deserve a chance at life. My reasoning? I was conceived from rape. My biological mother chose adoption over abortion. And I do not at all resent her for giving me up, but rather respect her more than anyone in the world for having the strength to give me life, then give me a good home. So please, choose adoption over abortion.
samtastic517 6 months ago
YES! We must stop Conservatives who seek to ensure that innocent babies live! Conservatives are inconsiderate assholes who care about the lives of unborn children and their rights!
WE MUST STOP THEM BEFORE MORE BABIES ARE ALLOWED TO LIVE!!!
departed402 6 months ago
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departed402 6 months ago
Scott Peterson was convicted of double murder for killing his pregnant wife! Now that is a double standard like a mother fucker!
yowho88 6 months ago
Casey Anthoney should go free!!! That was just a late term abortion right? I mean "it" was in her right?
yowho88 6 months ago
@yowho88 Finally someone who gets it!!! How do the Liberals defend their logic!?!?
departed402 6 months ago
@jackumonkey I say if you were raped then you should be able to have an abortion or if the child is a risk to your life. Otherwise I'm pro choice. Choose to keep ur fucking legs closed u whores. It's in her it will always be her choice? First of all it is a defenseless child not an it and that child comes out of a mans body as sperm and is fertilized and grows in the womans body. Second of all men get no choice if they want to keep their child.
yowho88 6 months ago
@bulldog8363 check out the national network of abortion funds. they help raise money for low income women to obtain abortion care
leiapeison 7 months ago
@becrazybabyy no one said abortion would make her forget. that is a strawman. of course she is thinking of herself. she is a victim and her only objective at this point is to survive her horror. and no getting pregnant doesnt mean someone should be a mother. pregnancy is a biological response that cant always be controlled. she has a right to control her fertility and thereby her destiny. no child deserves to be treated as a punishment
leiapeison 7 months ago
And then I had an abortion, regretted it, got depressed, ended up with breast cancer, and died without the LORD. Abortions never worth the side effects.
44SCB 7 months ago
@44SCB good golly!! how do you kow she isnt a christian? and not everyone regrets aborting and from the looks of it, she is already depressed. and abortion doesnt increase risk of breast cancer. that has been refuted so many times.
leiapeison 7 months ago
@leiapeison She might have repented but not likely. Besides who knows this whole thing might just be acting anyway. Or it could be real.
44SCB 7 months ago
@44SCB she has NOTHING TO repent for pertaining to her rape. she survived. that is all that is important and she did the best she could. she was a victim and is now a survivor speaking out to prevent a further assault on her character and humanity. i applaud her and al others who stand up to the tyrrany you espouse
leiapeison 7 months ago
@leiapeison She wasn't sinning by being raped she was sinning by murdering her infant.
44SCB 7 months ago
@44SCB according to you and your own dogma. do you really think she considered that pregnancy to be "hers"? and an early term embryo is not the same thing. she is a hero for making such a difficult choice
leiapeison 7 months ago
@leiapeison Earlt embryos aren't human just like people of different races arent human. If they really arent human then when do they becaome human and what deffines a human? The Bible or what u call dogma is allways correct. The baby is not hers its is a human of its own.
44SCB 7 months ago
@44SCB it doesnt matter if the bible is always correct. a free and democratic society doesnt base laws on religion. your motivation has nothing to do with compassion or reason. it is all about theocratic ideas. she was a victim once. she will not be a victim of another person who just wants to control her
leiapeison 7 months ago
@leiapeison I am a believer in everyones civil rights. Where I draw the line is when 1 persons rights violates anothers. The government should also not base laws on science. So I believe in the rights and freedoms of the unborn. Just like I believe in the rights and freedoms of blacks and women. Jesus said that who has not sinned may cast the 1st stone indicating that u should be free 2 live imoral wile as long as u don't have the right 2 hurt others. All governments should follow this.
44SCB 6 months ago
@44SCB bullcrap. there is no point in being born if you are born a slave. and that is what it amounts to if women are denied reproductive autonomy
leiapeison 5 months ago
@leiapeison really.
well ask how many slaves want to die.. at least let them make the choice
why not do it thus: let the baby live for 10 years and say" should I have killed you," no one ever regrets being born.. this is a useless imperialist argument where those in power presume their choices are better for the oppressed..
aarespo 4 months ago
I did not chose 4 my mother 2 get raped. But Obama doesn't want me 2 have the right 2 live even though it was given by GOD. I had no choice but 2 be killed. I'm just another victim of the infant holocaust. CHRISTIAN OR NOT GOD ALWAYS GETS THE FINAL WORD.
44SCB 7 months ago
There is nothing in the world that can justify the death of an innocent being with individual human DNA.
GenerationEpic90 7 months ago
Proof of ignorance on the Pro-Choice side: "In its 1859 Report on Criminal Abortion, the American Medical Association (AMA) understood that "the independent and actual existence of the child before birth as a living being" was a scientific truth. Nothing has changed since that time. For the past 150 years doctors have known that life begins at conception."
So, I guess that pretty much proves that everyone that thinks "A fetus isn't alive." is bullshitting themselves. :D
BlizzardDust 7 months ago
@BlizzardDust Please go hump a bible.
vkyle52 7 months ago
That's funny 'cause I'm not even religious. lollersbbq :D
BlizzardDust 7 months ago
@BlizzardDust You should try it tho :D
vkyle52 7 months ago
I'll pass, but thank you kind aborter. :D
BlizzardDust 7 months ago
@BlizzardDust I truly am :D
vkyle52 7 months ago
A kind aborter? Why sure. I mean, it's not like it makes you a bad human being to kill what is a living creature that's done nothing to you. So yes, you're a kind aborter. The kindest, most humane person I ever did meet. I've derived a great pleasure from this discussion. Thank you for taking the time to talk to me. :D
BlizzardDust 7 months ago
@BlizzardDust Do you eat meat? I like meat. Meat is awesome.
If I become president, I would declare everyone to eat meat. :D
vkyle52 7 months ago
I do like meat actually. Although I disagree with the barbaric manner in which animals are killed in the process.
BlizzardDust 7 months ago
@BlizzardDust Ahhh, you hate asians?
vkyle52 7 months ago
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Asians? Why would I hate them? They've done nothing to me.
BlizzardDust 7 months ago
everyone check out the national network of abortion funds. they help low income women obtain abortion care. you can specify in your donation that rape victims get the money before anyone else does
leiapeison 7 months ago
What did the baby do to her? Take shit out on the rapist. Don't kill what would eventually become an innocent child.
BlizzardDust 7 months ago
@BlizzardDust It will turn out to be Unloved anyway! Would you rather be not born at all, and I guess go to heaven or whatever, or go through a miserable, unloved life?
Bananawawa 7 months ago
Well, I don't know if you've heard about it. But since you seem like a nice person I'll let you in on the secret anyways. There's this thing... called adoption. Ever heard of it?
BlizzardDust 7 months ago
@BlizzardDust Hey there! I dunno if you know about this but... women can die from giving birth ;)
vkyle52 7 months ago
lollersbbq. Hey there! I dunno if you know this, but A.) The chances of a woman dying giving birth have gone down significantly since we got this amazing stuff called technology. But let's not forget B.) The fact that, with the exception of rape victims, any girl who gets pregnant made the choice to spread their legs. If they wanna have sex, they should grow-up and deal with the consequences without killing a baby. After all, abortion isn't birth control. Am I right or am I right? :D
BlizzardDust 7 months ago
@BlizzardDust I've got 1 problem. I wouldn't consider the fetus to be human unless its 5 months old. It's basically just an egg cell and sperm cell together at the first weeks. It's like ejaculating, you kill your own sperm cells which would've become your baby.
Besides, its a woman's choice. Unless you're a sexist...
YOU'RE A SEXIST :O
vkyle52 7 months ago
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SuburbiaSurvivor 7 months ago
@SuburbiaSurvivor No one is telling anyone to do abortion. It is a women's choice.
vkyle52 7 months ago
Would you rather a child be born into a family that it would get no love in, or not be born at all? Choose the lesser of two evils, dumbfucks.
Bananawawa 7 months ago 2
@Bananawawa exactly!! forced parenthood isnt pro life. not every conception is supposed to result in birth. irresponsible pro creation is why the world is messed up in the first place
leiapeison 7 months ago
@leiapeison Thank you! Tell that to some of the others on other videos.
Bananawawa 7 months ago
@Bananawawa i most certainly will. and if you would like to help girls like this and other women, check out the national network of abortion funds. they help raise money for low income women to obtain abortion care
leiapeison 7 months ago
Abortion isn't a Right, it's a privilege. As to which values elicit the privilege to use tax dollars is up for debate. I've heard women claim that they're tired of being pregnant, hence they want an abortion and I will never support that. Instead of learning to defend themselves, they'll go through costly procedures. Teaching society that "getting rape is wrong" instead of "rape is wrong" is beyond my comprehension. Seriously, people need to educate themselves and toughen up.
blackyblackblack505 8 months ago
Rape is bad. Murder is even worse. Whose choice is it? The baby gets no choice here. This raped girl should relate to the baby, as she should know what it's like not to have a choice.
JoshVlogs 8 months ago
@JoshVlogs Well, A child could either not be born at all, or be born into a family that can't support it and won't love it?
Also, it's a freaking CLUMP OF CELLS that has the POTENTIAL to become a human. Drinking and Smoking also kills cells. Why not ban that? A woman has the right to do whatever she wants with her body, just like a man does too. THINK FIRST BEFORE YOU START SPEWING THAT CRAP.
Bananawawa 7 months ago
"Well, a child could either not be born at all, or be born into a family that can't support it and won't love it." Hey, you seem pretty intelligent, so why didn't this magical thing called adoption occur to you?
BlizzardDust 7 months ago
Take a minute to think what it would be like for someone to rip your limbs off from your body and/or crush your head, as you struggle, helplessly. Yeah, WOMEN are given the choice. But what about the baby who is a completely new human being and individual. what about their choice??? It seems ignorant Pro-Choicers are all about themselves and like to take the easy way out of thing without dealing with their consequences. PRO-CHOICE THIS!
sbneverdies 9 months ago
the baby before the point of no return having an under developed brain, a nervous system consisting of random bouts of twitching, and a weak bone structure isn't really capable of feeling a lot of pain let alone produce any real intelligent thought, but hey when its your time it's your time life is a privilege not a right.
skinnyman1423 9 months ago
@sbneverdies Do some research. The doctor doesn't mangle the fetus, and it feels no pain because clincs won't preform abortions beyond 20 weeks, which is when the fetus actually begins to feel pain. And did you even WATCH this? She was RAPED. She wasn't irresponsible and got pregnant by a boyfriend, she was RAPED. Is that fair to make her feel MORE pain?
peaceandrosegirl 8 months ago 10
@peaceandrosegirl No, but it's not the baby's fault, either. Give the baby up for adoption, for goodness sake! Have YOU ever had an abortion? How do YOU know so much? Abortion leaves emotional scars on women FOREVER. There's different TYPES of abortions, too. The baby can feel pain. I'm crying right now, it makes me so sad. It's KILLING a human being!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And this girl's an actress, anyways.
ilikecats40111 5 months ago
@ilikecats40111 No, I haven't had an abortion, but have YOU ever had to give a baby up for adoption? I imagine it's very VERY hard, and if a woman is raped, carrying the baby of someone she hates and giving birth to it will be hard enough, so you think she should be forced to give it away to?? What if she keeps it but is unable to give him or her proper living standards? And what if she CAN'T find parents? Then the baby will go to foster care, where it will likely never been adopted and more
peaceandrosegirl 5 months ago
@peaceandrosegirl I think it would be harder to take a life than give the baby a chance to live. There's PLENTY of people that are DYING to have a baby when they can't have one biologically.
ilikecats40111 5 months ago
@ilikecats40111 Our orphanages and foster homes are overflowing with children not to mention the overpopulation issues in china due to the one child rule. If a family is really -DYING- to have a baby and can't find one close to them I doubt they would have any issue adopting from China or even a third world country.
Kortneiii 5 months ago
@ilikecats40111 than likely end up on the streets or in jail. If you think it's so wrong, than DON'T HAVE ONE. But leave the choice up to others.
peaceandrosegirl 5 months ago
@peaceandrosegirl There is a movie called "Blood Money" I think you'd enjoy. Abortionist actually tell you some of their experiences with various patients. It's a really good research source...you get it from THE source. And as bad as RAPE is MURDER is worse...it's why we don't hand out death/life sentences to rapists and only to murderers
ataraxy729 5 months ago
@peaceandrosegirl Oh, the baby feels pain, alright.
ilikecats40111 5 months ago
@peaceandrosegirl
the question of abortion is "what is being destroyed"?. the answer simply is a human being with 100% human genetic composition (the same as yourself). a homo sapien, an already existing human organism..
though a womans right to 'privacy' is important, in a moral society, all rights are NOT equal.. the right to be born, isnt it more fundamental than privacy?. ..
sarah Pailin is stopping a human being from being destroyed.. cant you see that.. i really dont get u guys
aarespo 4 months ago
@aarespo . you mention that the fetus isnt suffering.. again that is not the question.. I can kill you without causing any pain, but I shouldnt only because you are the same species as myself, a homossapien and thus with equal natural dignity compared to mine....
"its only a blob of cells".. yes and so are we.. homosapien cell blobs, tissues, potentials, genetic compositions..please let us wake up to the injustice where humans are robbed their lives
aarespo 4 months ago
Even though i do belivie the choice should be open for rape and most cases of incest. I think that it should not be open for all and I am open for a respectful responce. Honestly I think that the choice shouldn't be open to married woman who weren't careful enough with birth control or being safe.
Does the baby get a choice?
SLATER654 10 months ago
So for all of you that say that only 1% are getting raped and pregnant as an argument. What are you really saying? That the 1% doesn`t matter? That they are irrelevant to this case and it is just bad fate on their hands? How dare you, you selfless pigs.
pizzaeater117 10 months ago
I'm black, did my ancestors have a say in gaining there freedom? Is anyone going to say otherwise? Yeah, whites had a choice to either help my ancestors, or keep them as slaves. They battled over what was right in there minds, just like the slaves that were involved. WOMEN ARE NOT THE ONLY ONES WHO SHOULD HAVE A SAY. Everyone has a right to speak out and say what is right. Most women who are raped regret abortions. This bull right here is WRONG. You're murdering people, that's all I have to say.
rockrunner2012 10 months ago
@rockrunner2012 So, others should have a say in what a woman does with her body? So, if I decide to have an abortion I should ask others if it's ok? Thats foolish. That way of thinking is going to set women back 200 years
liacashmere58 10 months ago
@rockrunner2012 but that's just it pro choice is a forked road, one path leads to an abortion and the other leads to chil