Light-Bot Walkthrough: 132 Commands

[ngeksuss]

man how many hours did it get before coming up with these solutions?

i cant even get pass lvl10..

[TheFlyg0n]

how can you think this all?

anyway, thank you

[VK2XPT]

That's truly a thing of beauty.

[Shadowglimt]

btw.. I wonder how his brain works!

[Shadowglimt]

Omg! lvl 7!! Perfect! :D

[PedroJungbluth]

the problem with this game is not consider energy consuption. The best goal is do all tasks with a less movements of the bot, the comands is all the same.

[blitzforthewin]

Rofl, very nice. Never would've been able to use pure recursion for level 10 o_O

[KILL3R56]

dude thanks you got me 30 points on kongregate

[Tashepooh22]

thanks that helped so much :D

[ELXenu]

It is, stupid! You can't use recursion, like this one (esoteric solve for first level):

F1 = {Up, Light, F1}

but you can use recursion like this:

F1 = {F2 Up, Light, F1}

F2 = Null

Why, hell?

[tuberpi]

You are the best programmer EVAR :O!!!!!

[wakazx]

@tuberpi In fact the real programmers try to use the least possible processor time, too many function calls which means more processor usage. There are too many steps in which the bot does things useless, which in a real programming situation, take up memory and processor, but for a game they really were thinking, excuse my english

[Sarstan]

Wow, watching how you complete them versus what I did on some (especially 9) makes me realize how inefficient some programmers can be.

[HowToGetBadges]

i actually have a video just like this except its like 5 minutes shorter :o and more simple

[KongRubix]

This video is meant to be a move-count optimization.

[RougeRoks]

This was very helpful to me. Thanks so much for posting this. *hugs*

[MKChosen13]

Wasn't this music in the first Mortal Kombat movie?!

[AlgaronGargatha]

@MKChosen13 Hackers soundtrack

[bowy2bob]

I did it with 180 commands

[draconian2]

I finished this a couple of hours ago. Good game. I'm guessing that you're aiming for the least amount of commands? I just played it without paying any attention, and ended up with some levels having only 1 or 2 spots left in the code. 5 stars ^_^

[91646227]

thanks For video !!

[crazywoogle]

Wow. Did you figure all of this out on your own? I wouldn't have the patience.. By the way, thanks for the solutions! They helped a lot. ;)

[sctriplefox]

I went through the whole game thinking I was supposed to optimize bot actions, not commands....it became impossible to do that perfectly on level 11.

[stalonedd]

I don't understand the last level.

The last level should not work the way you did it. The bot should have jumped one more time and light down the last one so you should have needed to add 1 command to light it up again. I did it different way with 17 commands instead cause of the bot light down the last one. But apparently the way you put your commands bugged the game.

(WTB more level)

[KongRubix]

Incorrect

[KongRubix]

What matters is that a given subfunction completes. In this case, after jump + light. Just because F1 doesn't finish all the way doesn't matter. You can't end a level if your function itself is incomplete, but as F2 is quite short, there's additional versatility.

[Superg457]

THANKS A LOT

[ameagle2111]

THANX ALOT DUDE

[AQOwnage]

Thanks your epic and i subscirbed to you. ^^

[frehut]

woohoo 30 points! ty mr rubix..

[nintendow1]

are you joking me?!! i found this after beating game, my mind really is numb... lol oh well good job

[TheShadowmin]

god...yer a genious at everything arnt u? how old r u

[Skysoldier681]

yay easy 30 points on kongregate thx to you

[trishasan]

thank you so much!

[GH30wner]

Thanks Kong!

[E4bangbangE4]

i dont understand the functions things

[RandomDude0321]

thx man you helped me finish the game 30 points!!!!!!!!!!

[popoknight1]

Awesome! I didnt think to use a recursive function! (same as below =) )

[jordaie1234]

ty i done the whole game on kong and got me a 35 points :)

[markbyers888]

I found the 131 solution. How do I make the video? What program did you use to record the screen?

[popoknight1]

I would use the free trial of hypercam. google it

[elloh143]

ty soooo much

[edward650]

thank you soo much u helped me get 30 points on kongregate

[Zefling]

T_T J'ose imaginer ce que type donne avec de la vrai programme. Niveau optimisation c'est le néant.

[XxXxXamzXxXxX]

i don't get the F1 and F2 thing

[Patashu]

I don't get how the total amount of commands is calculated; if it's the number of things the robot does then it's grossly underperforming, but if it's the number of commands in the main then the first level would have been a function call, so it's not that either. So what is it?

[Patashu]

Wait, wait, I think I have it...it's the number of commands total in main, f1 and f2, right?

[huanga]

I think so, yes.

But in real life programming, this is like saying: "let's see who can get the task done in least amount of code, regardless of performance of the outcome".

Not good in a programming sense, as demonstrated by many many levels in this video. There are many useless moves by the bot, but it offered the least amount of commands.

It is probably highly regarded for the management team, if they're paying per lines of code though... until they realize their product performs like crap.

[Patashu]

You couldn't really do it the other way around though, count it by number of commands actually performed. Not the way the game is. It's a viable goal, even if it's not a realistic one.

[KongRubix]

As correct as your statements are, the point of this particular approach was to minimize total commands used. If I were after efficiency, that would be easy to do in this game (there's also no in-game metric for measuring it).

[rbairos1]

Man, thats some optimum solutions! I tried a simple recursion F1 calling F1 and saw it was disallowed so I didnt realize I could have 2 step recursion. Nice find. A computer generated search of an even lower solution would be an interesting challenge.

[fgsethseth]

very elegant!

[rushyrulz]

Rubix, drugs are bad.

[tynam]

AHHHHHHH

I got to 165 commands without using recursions since I didn't think infinite loops were allowed. Didn't realize there was a loophole! Thanks for the guide, now time to figure it out myself.

[KongRubix]

Recursion only works if the lights are lit at the end of the function's processing. If the functions still have leftover moves to perform, it'll perform those moves even if all lights are lit. It calls for some careful planning in certain cases (especially the last level)

[walen]

lol and I saw my 171 personal record as a nice one...

Anyway I thought the stage did NOT automatically end once you lighted up every square, i.e. using recursion usually ends up with your bot looping indefinitely through the scenario switching lights on and off.

Looks like that's not your case. I guess I was wrong.

[Gunnar120]

zomg

[Gunnar120]

upside

[Gunnar120]

down

[Gunnar120]

writing!

[MarkBallie]

omg you deleted my comment :O I think..

[MafoogleyProductions]

that helped me with 10 - 12 thanks.